Golf - classic or dud

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Dud, obviously. I mean, there's no player interaction for a start.

DV, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

new boring middleclass social climber answers

DV, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry I'm going to stick up for golf. Golf is CLASSIC! Golf on TV is soothing and pleasant to watch, reminds me of Sunday afternoons as a child watching it with my parents, loads of days at the Irish Open drinking beer and lying around in the sun.

Playing golf is something I won't do till I'm a good bit older but it is the best activity for people as they get older. Very social, not too strenuous, lots of dinners/drinking sessions. I love golf on BBC, Alex Hay is such a polite and good humoured man. There's no sport left on TV with as little glitz as Golf right down to the commentators.

Ah golf.....I even love the rippling applause and the noise when they hit the ball

Ronan, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The stupidest "sport" ever created, and that's saying a lot. It was probably one of Momus's ancestors that created as a grand art prank on the upper classes.

Nicole, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Peter Allis = satan.

Andrew L, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Golf is great, what other sports enable men to wear pastel shades?

davel, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

classic!!!

its just great, can't explain why exactly, its perfectly sedate to watch, but things do sort of coalesce into being. as for playing, i have to make do with the occasional round of pitch and putt

gareth, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not the golf so much as the sodding golf courses that I mind. Firstly they encourage murder as bodies are always being found on golf courses (well not always but sometimes. Occasionally). Secondly they take up land that could be used for better things. Where I grew up in leafy Bucks it was golf courses a-go-go for all the middle aged commuter men and they put one on top of the pick your own strawberries farm where I used to stuff my face and get sunburnt as a child. Then when I was living in Spain at the povvy end of the Costa del Sol there were severe water shortages so we had no water from 8pm onwards and if you forgot to fill a bath / bucket before you went out you were stuffed but OH LOOK just outside town is the swanky golf course they had some big competition on a few years back and they are sprinklering that all hours of the day grrr. OK so they need them for the tourist euro but still it's irritating.

Rant over.

Emma, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

''Peter Allis = satan.''

am sad i am missing the open (already missed wimbledon and the eng sri lanka test series) but the good thing abt missing the open is not hearing Peter allis' 'commentary'. It's just torture really.

Julio Desouza, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Grew up a bit of a golf nut in the very early eighties -- still think Tom Watson's amazing chip shot in the US Open on the seventeenth hole ranks up there as a Great Moment. But this fascination could well be due to location -- my grandparents lived in Pebble Beach, home of some of the best courses in the States or anywhere, and where that particular Open was held that year. My parents live in Carmel now literally within walking distance from the beach where you can see some of the courses, and seeing the courses and the whole setting is for me just part of home, a nostalgia-of-the-present I can't and won't deny. Don't follow it now beyond knowing Woods is predominant and Els his closest rival (I gather), and I think the urge to create courses in absurdly impractical locations is sad on any number of levels. But visiting Scotland made me appreciate why it was created there and so popular -- plenty of lush greenery, plenty of good space for courses. So why not?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll tell you why not! Cos golf courses ruin the natural lush greenery with their horrible landscaping and prevent people who aren't stomping around in silly jumpers from enjoying the countryside!

Emma, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Emma is OTM here. Silly jumpers + vast amounts of environmental degradation = double dud.

RickyT, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you referring to Scotland or England here? (I'm not being snarky, I'm honestly curious -- I was under the impression that most of the Scottish courses have been around for many a moon anyway, so they're the landscape by default now.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not sure that most of the courses in Scotland *are* that old, and there's been a big explosion in golf course construction in England over the last twenty years or so. The area round my parents house in Yorkshire is covered with the damn things, many of them having replaced the few bits of uncultivated land that remained in the area.

RickyT, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Golf = men in pastel diamond knit tank tops = Classic

davel, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think golf evolved in scotland as a way of using naturally occuring coastal scrub land.

They then started creating artificial coastal scrubland all over the world.

apparently American golf courses are more "artificial" than Irish & Scottish ones, and there is some pressure on courses over here to become less natural so as to appeal to yankee dollar.

but whatever, it's all golf = all boring middle class men off playing their boring game and cosying up to the boss over a few gin and tonics and then drink driving home.

DV, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ronans answer is my answer as well. Classic. Having a golf course around sure beats having a soccer pitch, baseball diamond, basketball court etc etc around.

The fact that there is no player interaction only increases the enjoyment of the game for me. Sublime and no jock0's around to spoil your day.

lawrence kansas, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

As a matter of fact I shall be hitting the links (as we say) Saturday afternoon.

golfing with the boss=dud, which is why almost nobody does it.

lawrence kansas, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate golf. Last Sunday whilst walking in the park talking to my mother and aunt whilst taking our dogs round a park that boarders on a golf course, a very rude old man starting telling us to be quiet as he wanted to tee off. Git. So, we just talked more loudly (we weren't shouting in the first place). So, anyway golf courses are evil. It is all fun shouting "skin" is you hear a golfer shout "fore".

jel --, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Tiger's petulant bitching at the photographers is by itself sufficient proof of ultimate dud-ness. Two words for all golfers, squatting to line up their putts as a reverential hush falls over the gallery: SWING BATTER!!

briania, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Golf = hawaiian shirts. DO keep up! Classic obv.

Jeff W, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

leave us golfers alone!!! you can have your extreme in your face lets eat a gallon of high fructose corn syrup while we make funny faces sports. we just want to be left alone!!!

lawrence kansas, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Golf itself=neither classic or dud.

My husband streaking across golf courses at sunrise in the early 70's=classic.

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

He has defiled the game I love. I weep.

lawrence kansas, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm with Mark Twain ("a good walk spoiled"). Dull, badly-dressed people playing a boring sport that has been dominated by upper class WASPs.

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll be hitting the links on Sunday. Can't stand to watch the sport on T.V. but enjoy playing. Plus it makes a great drinking game when your playing with your friends.

Chris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I openly challenge Tiger Woods to a fight -- anywhere, anytime. Golf is the worst.

Kris, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

how can a sport you essentially play by yourself be dominated by anybody (upper middle class WASPs or whoever)?

lawrence kansas, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Golf = classic. Tiger = Super-Classic.

Dan Perry, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Golf-Huge amounts of land cleared out so that people can hit a ball around-D

Miniture Golf- A good time for druken teenagers on a Saturday Night. Watch where your standing at the ramp over water hole, I was hit with a flying ball and got a bruised collar bone. It was funny till the booze wore off...

brg30, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

'Peter Allis = Satan' = the strangest and silliest statement I've ever seen; I can hardly think of anyone harder to despise. The man is a god.

Classic Allis - Hay exchange from yesterday;

Allis (lamenting Seve's withdrawal due to being rubbish now): 'I'm afraid there aren't too many things you get better at as you get older'.

Hay: 'Sweeping?'.

Ally C, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know their names but.

today they showed a bunch of CLIPS together [highlights, perhaps] with some krazy 'dance' music over the top.

one commentator: is that the sort of music you like to dance to?

another commentator: no, actually. I'm more of a gavotte-merchant.

I have an inkling that the another one was allis. if so: AllyC is OTM.

RJG, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ben wright's comments about women's breasts getting in the way of their swing was pretty classic. i like how another name for the mullet is 'lpga'.

keith, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Bah Peter Allis is a 19th hole saloon bar reactionary sexist BORE who thinks that the 'little woman' shld never be allowed near a golf course and who in interviews makes dull and predictable comments abt the 'menace' of political correctness (which just means he can't tell his racist jokes anymore...)

Andrew L, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Golf is classic because Jesper Parnevik plays it.

Ally, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes the land is all "ruined". Of course!

Ronan, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

walter benjamin to thread!!

mark s, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

AllyC is, as he so often is, bang OTM.

and the end of the open yesterday was rather thrilling

chris, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Commentary during a lull in yesterday's final round (which, contrary to most, I found infinitely less entertainng than when the leaders were shedding shots like confetti in Saturday's gale in front of no spectators whatsoever):

Allis: A mention to Mrs [x] who's just about recovered now from the shock of the burglary. I hope they catch the culprits soon.
Hay: Terrible. [Proceeds to say something about appropriate capital punishment to apply when they are caught]
Allis: Ooh no, surely a bit of flogging first. So the punishment lasts longer.
Hay: Oh yes, of course.

Jeff W, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Lehman Vaginal Overload, "Pin High (Parnevik's Panda Remix)"

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Ronan909: the american dudes are like "hi sam, you've got a tan"
z3mk0: "yes well done beverley you were right"
thegardencentre: american commentators are like that for every sport though
thegardencentre: in fact ther news too
Ronan909: yeah zemko, and everytime someone wins and the wife comes on camera he goes
"now you can have that new kitchen love"
thegardencentre: "and a difficult genocide in central africa pete"
z3mk0: haha
*************: that's pretty OTM
Ronan909: he's said it at least three times
thegardencentre: "yes, a tricky situation for the malawians lesley"
*************: "that's right bob"
Ronan909: seve ballesteros was a great commentator
Ronan909: when he did it
Ronan909: is he on again this time
z3mk0: yesterday they werre discussing wind pattertsn and one said "he's talkign out his isobarse"
Ronan909: haha
cozenyo: haha
z3mk0: i was shocked!
thegardencentre: "1500 a day dead dave, the strike rate is rising"
Ronan909: it is so great, the best hangover tv ever
cozenyo: PARTAY tv
Ronan909: "war in iraq, wrap up warm folks"
thegardencentre: COMEDOWN TV
thegardencentre: HANGOVER TV
thegardencentre: PARTAAAAY TV
Ronan909: payne stewart
Ronan909: i miss him
thegardencentre: yea:-(
*************: "too bad about the fire that killed 15, ted"
z3mk0: bring the payne
Ronan909: haha
thegardencentre: too bad i fucked your wife pacey
Ronan909: FORE!
*************: :-)

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Ronan909: people should shout fore at raves
Ronan909: and wear golf clothes
*************: hahaha
cozenyo: you don;t?
*************: walk around with golf clubs
Ronan909: i do now
z3mk0: glow clubs
*************: and tee off
thegardencentre: peopel should weaer plus fours at raves
Ronan909: tee up on stage
Ronan909: plus 4s as in
Ronan909: turn up the pitch
thegardencentre: haha, i notice ed is being markedly silent!!!;-)
cozenyo: ian woosnam's so weird
Ronan909: you wave them at the dj
z3mk0: the big raver pants are already in effect!
z3mk0: kinda
*************: you use the clubs to adjust the lighting
Ronan909: people do wear golf visers
Ronan909: already
z3mk0: when i go raving i take a caddy
thegardencentre: there is a photo of me in a gold visor winging its way towards ilx
Ronan909: i have visions of homelands with 10000 people all in cheque trousers and sleeveless pringle sweaters
z3mk0: in a little buggy
thegardencentre: i need a new caddy
thegardencentre: my last one got uppity
z3mk0: and he hands me diff drugs and water and stuff
*************: david thomas from pere ubu/rftt uses his cane as a weapon... it's a little frightening
Ronan909: "i reckon you need to take the white mitsubishi this time zemko"
Ronan909: "the next hour could be tricky, have a pint"
thegardencentre: hah, this is a challenging rotterdam track, caddy hand me another half wrap of whizz, the bpm is realy high on this one
z3mk0: and waits patiently in the revving car while i dance in fornt of him
Ronan909: i fired my caddy after i passed out one time
Ronan909: he gave me a 7 iron when i needed some vodka
Ronan909: "a challenging rotterdam track"
*************: i'm going to open a club called "caddyshack"
thegardencentre: caddyshack is the best film ever!"
thegardencentre: apart from caddyshack 2

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Tiger Woods should drink farm cider.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not sure if i want to know whether ILx chat transcripts are real or not. ah, mystery.

i hit golf balls this week. i have more natural ability at it than most other things that involve hitting balls. fun. and v. satisfying when you actually get it up in the air and far away. though i usually don't get quite as much distance as others. dunno if that's a strength thing or a technique thing (or the stella i had?). not too much exercise if you're just driving, though.

(we never heard of Africa in America, btw. TS: chatty, bubbleheaded non-news v. snide content.)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 19 July 2003 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

doesn't Tolkien say that one of Bilbo Baggins's ancestors was the inventor of golf?

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 19 July 2003 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

dud for land and water-use issues alone. have any of you been to Arizona? it's fucking horrifying.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Saturday, 19 July 2003 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

as an AZ resident I can attest to that and then some

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 19 July 2003 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
wentworth.

I've started playing again recently too and my handicaps gone down from a 14 to about an 11/10 - played ardeer and carded an 84 (an unecessary 7 [!!!], and three unecessary 6s) but shoulda been a 79. that is playing to handicap I guess (it was 14) but I reckon markers would have given me the 7 and 6s as 5s (taking into account the rest of my card.)

I love golf.

soft hands!

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 27 May 2004 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

talk about golf.

do you like it? do you play? are you watching wentworth? will you play golf with me?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 27 May 2004 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd love to play some golf! But I need to work on my 1) putting 2) short game and 3) long game. And by "work on" I mean "gain even minimal competency."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 May 2004 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Fingers crossed for Hideki this evening. Seems bizarre that, 40 years after Aoki's near-miss, Japan still hasn't produced a male major winner. But then I've never quite understood why the French don't dominate clay-court tennis (probably based on watching exchange students rallying for hours in the local park when I was a kid... like, can they all do that?), instead of just one Roland Garros men's singles champ since WW2.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 11 April 2021 15:39 (six months ago) link

Well that was tighter than it needed to be but he got it done!

Xander really wet the bed on 16 he mighta been able to win it with a par and pressure

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Monday, 12 April 2021 00:27 (six months ago) link

fun final day even if hideki was never in real peril

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 April 2021 00:28 (six months ago) link

xander also went +4 over three holes before recovering for six straight birdies

weird day for him, but hideki deserves the win and i’m happy he pulled it out

voodoo chili, Monday, 12 April 2021 01:46 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

this course is brutal. looks like every tee shot is blind.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:54 (five months ago) link

also... phil!?

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:54 (five months ago) link

Not up on golf these days, but I'll watch today. It'd be a miracle if Mickelson pulls this off, no?

clemenza, Sunday, 23 May 2021 18:36 (five months ago) link

I barely recognize him now that he looks so….in shape

Definitely pulling for him, would be the oldest player to win a major right?

frogbs, Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:40 (five months ago) link

Ok I just looked it up, he would be by about 2 years

frogbs, Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:41 (five months ago) link

"Old Man"? I know they mean that as a tribute, but geez.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:59 (five months ago) link

fun that this keeps swinging back and forth & theyre still on the front 9

johnny crunch, Sunday, 23 May 2021 20:22 (five months ago) link

oostie has played really good today, couple shots are a few inches diff he could be level w phil rn

johnny crunch, Sunday, 23 May 2021 21:27 (five months ago) link

of course after i say that he fucked up 13

johnny crunch, Sunday, 23 May 2021 21:50 (five months ago) link

Glad Mickelson has a bit of a cushion; that looks gruesome.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 May 2021 22:45 (five months ago) link

Whew this is gonna be close

frogbs, Sunday, 23 May 2021 22:57 (five months ago) link

Never mind he’s got this

frogbs, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:02 (five months ago) link

during the overhead crowd shots i remarked i hadnt seen that many ppl move en masse since jan 6

johnny crunch, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:07 (five months ago) link

i hate that nantz had nothing better ready than "phil defeats father time"

johnny crunch, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:10 (five months ago) link

I sure hope everyone there's been vaccinated! Anyway, glad I stuck around. I spent two decades rooting against Mickelson (because of Tiger) but I was pulling for him today.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:13 (five months ago) link

i wonder how many times phil gave the thumbs-up today

mookieproof, Sunday, 23 May 2021 23:19 (five months ago) link

on some of those walkthroughs he was flashing it every 5 seconds, like clockwork. it was very odd to watch

on another note, I forgot that they don't get golf carts in these tournaments. nothing more riveting to watch on TV than a 50 year old man walking 300 yards

frogbs, Monday, 24 May 2021 01:32 (five months ago) link

Phil!!!! Can’t believe he did it. Thought he was toast after the first hole today

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Monday, 24 May 2021 02:25 (five months ago) link

Even more than holing out from the sand, I thought his most amazing shot was that 365-yard drive down the middle.

clemenza, Monday, 24 May 2021 03:42 (five months ago) link

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=31500313

clemenza, Monday, 24 May 2021 03:44 (five months ago) link

Yea that was nuts and you could tell he had it wrapped after that one

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Monday, 24 May 2021 04:34 (five months ago) link

what scenes. great course for a tourney ,
awful for 'normal' golfers. another dent in the legend of brooks.

oscar bravo, Monday, 24 May 2021 12:01 (five months ago) link

Thought his last green approach was killer, that had plenty of potential to go awry

flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Monday, 24 May 2021 12:25 (five months ago) link

brooks sounded a little pissy about getting bumped by the crowd but i can’t blame him. that whole thing would have made me very uncomfortable (and unhappy with the tournament directors) even if i weren’t coming off knee surgery

mookieproof, Monday, 24 May 2021 12:25 (five months ago) link

It was nonsense but americans are gonna american hey

flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Monday, 24 May 2021 12:41 (five months ago) link

brooks vs bryson is heating up

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 20:23 (four months ago) link

thing is bryson bothers brooks a lot more than brooks bothers bryson. it is funny how much brooks openly loathes him tho.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 20:52 (four months ago) link

they both come off like jerks but golf needs something like this

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 22:21 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

No-one's interested in the Open? In the UK we have the excuse that it's not on the BBC anymore which tends to kill off interest in sports beyond dedicated fans.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 July 2021 17:37 (three months ago) link

I tend not to follow sport unless I can watch it live though I read reports.

Lol @ Oosthuizen fucking it up again.

Looked like a lovely afternoon of Golf.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 July 2021 17:41 (three months ago) link

Yes, I'd have loved to have spent a lazy Sunday afternoon/ evening watching it but I assume it's on Sky now. Anyway, it's finished, Morikawa won and I didn't see a second of it!

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 July 2021 17:43 (three months ago) link

Yeah 20 or so years watching The Open :-(

Was almost as sad as when summer Test Cricket left terrestrial in 2005 (though radio can be adequate for cricket I've never got into it).

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 July 2021 17:58 (three months ago) link

lol watched north of 30 hours of it this week. spieth looking great again, rahm bad day with the putter. morikawa was sublime ,fantastic iron player.

oscar bravo, Sunday, 18 July 2021 17:58 (three months ago) link

the gap btwn his strokes gained approach and the number 2 is wider than btwn the number 2 and number 30.

been highlights on bbc every day btw

oscar bravo, Sunday, 18 July 2021 18:01 (three months ago) link

Don't like watching highlights of golf for some reason.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 July 2021 18:02 (three months ago) link

Highlights for most sport is kinda wack though I'll try and catch it. For me its a nice way to look back on an event you already watched.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 July 2021 18:12 (three months ago) link

Any particular reason you cant watch it

Are ye protesting by not pirating it or something lads

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 July 2021 18:14 (three months ago) link

Can't be arsed with pirating. I'm old.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 July 2021 18:20 (three months ago) link

Greybeard

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 July 2021 18:24 (three months ago) link

Also I'm staying at my sister's just now.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 July 2021 19:39 (three months ago) link

is it true that golf is on the radio in the uk

mookieproof, Sunday, 18 July 2021 22:16 (three months ago) link

Yes! Since the Ryder Cup disappeared from free-to-air TV (late '90s?) it's been the only way to experience several editions live. Though I did watch the climax of 2002 in a pub.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 18 July 2021 22:29 (three months ago) link

not a huge golf fan but certain things that i've happened to watch are unforgettable

today i was reminded that jean van de velde's incredible collapse at carnoustie was 22 years ago ffs

mookieproof, Monday, 19 July 2021 00:56 (three months ago) link

God, yes, makes my toes curl just thinking about it.

Soundtracked by an eco jazz mixtape. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 July 2021 08:25 (three months ago) link

Might have helped his grip tbh

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 19 July 2021 08:36 (three months ago) link

jeongeun lee6 just played one of the greatest rounds i've ever seen. admittedly no wind but 61 at a major championship is remarkable. leads the evian by 7 shots with the morning wave finished round 2. conditions perfect so perhaps someone can eat into her lead.

oscar bravo, Friday, 23 July 2021 11:05 (three months ago) link


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