Um, I Think It's Time for a Thread on WikiLeaks

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this fuckin guy

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 November 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link

fuck you and die, Julian

frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 04:26 (seven years ago) link

WL had an AMA on reddit earlier today, trying to do damage control AND reaching out for donations... unreal.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 November 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

yeah i got a question

why are we still sharing oxygen with you

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 November 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

fuck you and die, Julian

― frogbs, Wednesday, November 9, 2016 11:26 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u kno he's not reading this board right

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Thursday, 10 November 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

this isn't his email address, its a messageboard

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Thursday, 10 November 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

Ya, if you want him to read that, you're going to have to email it to Hillary.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 November 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

so does he get credit when people start winning election coverage Pulitzers using all the leaked info?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 November 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

and the pulitzer for best coverage of spirit cooking goes to

Mordy, Thursday, 10 November 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link

Lol. Because fuck Fahrenthold, clearly the intercept copy-pasting emails deserve the pulitzer.

Frederik B, Friday, 11 November 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

yall really gonna hate wikileaks after reading this

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

The memo articulated a three-point strategy. Point 1 called for forcing “all Republican candidates to lock themselves into extreme conservative positions that will hurt them in a general election.”

At the time, there were more than a dozen Republican presidential candidates. The “variety of candidates is a positive here,” the Clinton campaign said.

“Many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right,” the memo noted.

“In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party,” the Clinton campaign wrote.

As examples of these “pied piper” candidates, the memo named Donald Trump — as well as Sen. Ted Cruz and Ben Carson).

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I've been shaking my head for a while at this. You realize this is absolute bullshit, right, Adam? And you realize the reason for this, right? That a memo from april 2015 doesn't prove anything about autumn 2015, right? You do get how time works, right? You're not to dumb to get how time works, right?

Oh, and then there are all the details, how it doesn't say what Ben Norton says. But, like, a pretty easy one should be that april 2015 wasn't actually during the primary campaign, and time doesn't work like that.

Frederik B, Friday, 11 November 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Frederik is a timelord; listen

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 November 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

those emails are old news but also even when they Leaked it was old news, because the clinton campaign obviously considered trump's primary performance a best-case scenario for themselves regardless of how much ratfucking they actually did (i don't think they needed, at least, to do any). this makes them idiots who will go down in history forever as idiots, but there's lots of those.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 11 November 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

Trump also constantly talked up Bernie Sanders. Every candidate ever wants the most extreme candidate for the other side. That's normal. Anyone surprised to find an email like this is a complete idiot. Anyone who believes this email shows that the Clinton campaign 'intentionally created' Trump is an even bigger idiot, who doesn't understand how time works.

Frederik B, Friday, 11 November 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I've been shaking my head for a while at this. You realize this is absolute bullshit, right, Adam? And you realize the reason for this, right? That a memo from april 2015 doesn't prove anything about autumn 2015, right? You do get how time works, right? You're not to dumb to get how time works, right?

Oh, and then there are all the details, how it doesn't say what Ben Norton says. But, like, a pretty easy one should be that april 2015 wasn't actually during the primary campaign, and time doesn't work like that.

― Frederik B, Friday, November 11, 2016 5:34 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so i checked about how time works and april sounds like its before autumn right, so it was a plan for a thing before the thing, which sounds like time is running, uh, forwards?

that's the right way for time to run right, idk, i get mixed up

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, 12 November 2016 04:28 (seven years ago) link

this is good discussion, this is helpful, thanks

El Tomboto, Saturday, 12 November 2016 04:34 (seven years ago) link

Actually, april is both before and after autumn, because the earth moves around the sun. And april is different from autumn, there are no days in april which are also in autumn, so documents from april doesn't prove what happened in autumn. Trust me on this, I've got a degree in history, ie. I am in fact a timelord.

Frederik B, Saturday, 12 November 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link

april is autumn in the southern hemisphere, makes u think

k3vin k., Saturday, 12 November 2016 04:43 (seven years ago) link

Oh, okay. So it's like, the Clinton campaign was actually directed from Chile or something? Is this another one of Naomi Klein's theories?

Frederik B, Saturday, 12 November 2016 04:52 (seven years ago) link

Actually, april is both before and after autumn, because the earth moves around the sun. And april is different from autumn, there are no days in april which are also in autumn, so documents from april doesn't prove what happened in autumn. Trust me on this, I've got a degree in history, ie. I am in fact a timelord.

― Frederik B, Friday, November 11, 2016 11:37 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what is wrong with you

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, 12 November 2016 05:26 (seven years ago) link

http://www.amfibi.directory/us/233758/image.jpg

velko, Saturday, 12 November 2016 05:32 (seven years ago) link

those emails are old news but also even when they Leaked it was old news, because the clinton campaign obviously considered trump's primary performance a best-case scenario for themselves regardless of how much ratfucking they actually did (i don't think they needed, at least, to do any). this makes them idiots who will go down in history forever as idiots, but there's lots of those.


Yeah, this is where I am with this: I don't think it's proof of a conspiracy, or that the HRC camp 'created' Trump, but it does show disastrous strategy/planning.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 November 2016 06:32 (seven years ago) link

well yeah it doesn't need to be a conspiracy. it's a mundane reality. they were friends w him for 20 years (?) before this, Bill & him golfing buddies, no doubt they knew what buttons to push and how.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 November 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

lol assange did an interview w/ sean hannity. "i believe every word he says" said hannity

marcos, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408

lol

, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

why have the rest of wikileaks, if there is anyone else, not tossed assange out the door as spokesman

dude is the worst public face of an organization

mh 😏, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link

wikileaks is about assange it is not about "radical transparency"

marcos, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

lol when ppl want u sacked from being head of your own personality cult

Houston John (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 6 January 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/WLTaskForce/status/817431533183238144

Fuck these bros and anybody who doesn't realize that they are total scum

altony rightano (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 January 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

otm

the best thing they're doing right now is if somebody says "assange is a scumbag" they tweet a link to the "free julian assange" website so they can learn the REAL truth

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 January 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link

Ethan Lawrence ‏@EthanDLawrence 3h3 hours ago

@WLTaskForce I think this plan is creepy, I think you're creepy and I hope someone breaks into your house and rearranges your sofa cushions.

sleeve, Friday, 6 January 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...
one month passes...

Gah:

http://www.factmag.com/2017/04/25/pj-harvey-justice-for-julian-assange-event/

Patti Smith, PJ Harvey, Laibach, Chomsky, Roy, etc, lining up for this.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link

Oh, PJpaws.

how's life, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

So it was held last year but were hearing about it only now, despite "the event held simultaneous live-streamed talks and workshops in 14 cities in total, also including New York, Madrid and Bucharest"?

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link

my pal KF on the new Poitras doc about Assange:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/risk

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link

First Hillary, now Marine. It's 2017 and the patriarchy's grip is as strong as ever.

— Julian Assange (@JulianAssange) May 9, 2017

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 05:02 (seven years ago) link

Just wait until 8 June, Julian.

AlanSmithee, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 05:15 (seven years ago) link

the disengenious fuck.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 07:18 (seven years ago) link

RedState (RedState!) is like "oh come the fuck on": http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2017/05/09/chivalry-wikileaks-assange-rushes-to-defend-frances-le-pen-hillary-clinton/

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link

https://www.rt.com/usa/387844-comey-assange-snowden-wikileaks/

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link

I would like to funnel all of my future shits into whichever basement room he tweeted that from

c/f star trek poop poll thread

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 11 May 2017 01:21 (seven years ago) link

Sorry in advance for being obtuse. I'll admit to not really paying attention to almost anything Wikileaks-related. It's just every time I try to sort this stuff out for myself, next thing I know my chin's on my chest. It is that boring to me. When I read news reports that cover their latest leaks or whatever, there never seems to be any material that shocks or interests me, other than a general "these leaks could compromise agents in the field".

Did anything actually important come out of the Stratfor, DNC, Vault 7, etc., beyond just fucking with the US government? And can someone give me some sort of tldr timeline of how they slid from "this might be the next pentagon papers" to "oh, fuck this guy". Was it just last year with the anti-Hillary stuff when he turned, or was there some shift before that?

how's life, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 14:25 (seven years ago) link

Not sure about before but their twitter feed definitely started to show sighs of a merger with alt-right pov concurrent with the anti-HRC leaks (which were deliberately contextually misleading in a lot of cases)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2016/07/wikileaks-officially-lost-moral-high-ground/amp/

Some breakdown on the vault 7 stuff. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/03/23/wikileaks-permadrip-other-vault-7-documents/
The entire purpose of those dumps seemed intended to provide the illusion of back up to Trump's tweets about Obama spying on him.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

Sweden drops charges: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973864

StanM, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:46 (six years ago) link

Statute of limitations ran out?

El Tomboto, Friday, 19 May 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link

Oh n/m I RTFA'd

El Tomboto, Friday, 19 May 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link


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