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― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link
New media has empowered citizens around the world to report on their circumstances, express opinions on world events, and exchange information in environments sometimes hostile to such exercises of individuals’ right to freedom of expression. At the same time, we are concerned about the determination of some governments to censor and silence individuals, and to restrict the free flow of information
Dunno how the BoPA flack managed to type that up w/o either cracking up lauging or crying his poor little eyes out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_Orders
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:42 (thirteen years ago) link
so they got some gontser macher lawyer bro gonna tear it up on assange's behalf at the extradition hearing
― a photo post about some black people on a park that had me in tears (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't see how it's gonna work tho
p sure rape is a crime
OH SNAP
not accused of rape, accused of "sex by surprise"
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link
geoff robertson qc out of retirement for the big one
― caek, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Just FYI, "sex by surprise" is not a legal term at all but Swedish slang for rape.
So "he's not accused of rape, he's accused of ::slang for rape::" is not really a convincing defense.
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah I have been misled! I read somewhere that there was a difference. I wasn't defending him by the way, just jumping at the opportunity to be juvenile.
one key point is just the reminder that WikiLeaks worked with newspapers to select and redact the cables.
No, that's right. I just wish they'd been more drip-feedy. The "Collateral Murder" release was so effective because it was a single, hot issue. It got discussed for days, everywhere.
Forgive me for being in the dark here, but did Guardian, NY Times et al pay for access to this stuff? (AFAIK Wikileaks is a commercial organization that hoped to raise $5M in its first year of operation.)
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post Not only did Wikileaks work with places like the NYT, the NYT double-checked some of its decisions with the State Department! So Wikileaks showed, say, the Times some cables, the Times told them what it suggested would be wise to redact, Wiki complied, then the NYT ran those decisions by the State Department, who of course offered its own suggestions which the Times in turn cherry picked, because the State Department had no real authority. I think this all came about because Wikileaks realized it was in the wrong to release info that, say, blew someone's top secret cover and put real lives at risk. Wiki showing it's willing to compromise demonstrates its not as coolly "information will be free" as it poses. Their idea of ethics is evolving.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
roundtable on aljazeera, including greenwald:
http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish#p/u/1/hK3hq3aPl8k
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
pro wikileaks hax0rs taking down mastercard.com, oh yay
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12341830
― champagne for my t-friends (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Faisal Islam@faisalislam
This is very serious now, not just the website ... RT @ruskin147: Customers seeing "a complete loss of service" on MasterCard Securecode17 minutes ago via web Favorite Undo Retweet Reply
― ears are wounds, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens9155221module80913991photo_1264293344LisbethSalander.jpg
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
"securecode"
― champagne for my t-friends (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
just in time for christmas!
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
american irritation with wikileaks about to tip over into full-blown rage
don't fuk w/ xmas shopping
― champagne for my t-friends (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://forum.greytalk.com/public/style_emoticons/default/yay.gif
― am0n, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
now they've infiltrated the greyhound network WHO IS NEXT
― champagne for my t-friends (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Assange backers in cyber retaliation over arrest (Reuters)
Next Glenn Beck will be pulling up 4chan on his screen to show us Assange's "backers."
― would like a calmer set (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Would love 4chan to go for Beck.
― Exotic Flavors of the Midwest, available in corn, bacon, or beef (suzy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
MasterCard Worldwide confirmed on Wednesday morning that the "MasterCard Directory Server" had gone down and that cardholders were experiencing service interruptions. The revelation was made as a massive denial of service attack was staged against MasterCard, ostensibly for refusing further payments to secrets outlet WikiLeaks.
"Please be advised that MasterCard SecureCode Support has detected a service disruption to the MasterCard Directory Server," MasterCard said. "The Directory Server service has been failed over to a secondary site however customers may still be experiencing intermittent connectivity issues. More information on the estimated time of recovery will be shared in due course."
― champagne for my t-friends (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL3E6N80BW20101208?sp=true
― kanellos (gbx), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
"The Directory Server service has been failed over to a secondary site"
lol how's that workin out
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd otm
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
lolhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/08/astrology-websites-f.html
― StanM, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
you know, i'd been looking for a new screen name..
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Ellsberg weighs in: http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/public-accuracy-press-release
― "Information by surprise" is even legal in Sweden (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Wikileaks has quietly bolstered its electronic defenses as its operations have come under increasing financial and political pressure.
In the last few days, the portion of Wikileaks's infrastructure that relied on a company in Reno, Nevada has been shifted outside the US to a provider in Toronto. Instead of employing only one company to direct traffic to Wikileaks.ch — currently the organization's primary website — 14 providers are now being used to ensure redundancy in case of legal or extralegal attack.
As part of its technological counter-measures undertaken since Friday, Wikileaks has turned to servers operated by the Swedish Pirate Party, which previously signaled support for the document-sharing effort in August. The number of mirror sites continues to grow at the pace of one every few minutes, topping 1,000 on Tuesday.
― champagne for my t-friends (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
lol/arrr @ swedish pirate party
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20101208006660/en/MasterCard-Statement
meanwhile mastercard.com still refuses to load
― champagne for my t-friends (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
trotsky on wikileaks
via george lazenby's twitter
― kanellos (gbx), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
War Room: Why is the left trying to smear a rape accuser?
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/07/julian_assange_rape_accuser_smeared
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/Anon_Operation
― would like a calmer set (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, they posted a link to hundreds and hundreds of credit-card numbers (w/ expiration dates), so that account's gone.
― would like a calmer set (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
The willingness of Assange's supporters to wave away the rape allegations is sickening. Judging from comments on this Laurie Penny piece, the main reason for smearing the accusers as liars or CIA plants seems to be that it feels "a bit fishy". Obviously when it comes to making the US govt look bad, feminism gets thrown under a bus.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/laurie-penny/2010/12/julian-assange-rape-women
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 9 December 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Someone's trying to sell the first 5,000 leaked diplomatic cables for Amazon.com's Kindle. Pay with Visa or PayPal for added irony:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004EEOLIU
― StanM, Thursday, 9 December 2010 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost: The willingness of that feminist author to accept the rape allegations is just as sickening.
― StanM, Thursday, 9 December 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/09/deborah-orr-julian-assange-wikileaks
idk, doubting the accusations is p mnstrm, not just something weirdo NS commenters do
so im not sickened, just, well, unsurprised
i see the NS is doing the 'religion is actually left-wing' thing in its cover lol
xpost
stanm she doesn't 'accept' the allegations but, really? is it 'sickening' to believe rape accusations now?
― ______ ___ ___________! (history mayne), Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Ridiculous comment, StanM - it's not about accepting them, it's about not dismissing or downplaying them out of hand just because you like the politics of the accused.
HM, I didn't say it was weird - I've seen it in mainstream columnists too - I just don't like it.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not rape.
― StanM, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link
And you know this how? Because you were there?
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link
kate, i assume he's referring to the fact that the crime he's wanted in connection with is called something that doesn't translate at "rape" in swedish law, and maybe would not be rape in, e.g. british law.
obviously, like stan says, failing to recognize that a man wanted in connection with sexual assault is probably the victim of a cia plot is sickening though, and what makes it worst is that the author is a feminist.
― caek, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like there is probably an israel thread somewhere missing its stanm
― caek, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Probably?
Possibly, I'd give you...
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link
it's telling that something similar happened to ralph nader after he published his criticism of general motors:
"In early March 1966, several media outlets, including The New Republic and the New York Times, reported that GM had tried to discredit Nader, hiring private detectives to tap his phones and investigate his past and hiring prostitutes to trap him in compromising situations.[14][15] Nader sued the company for invasion of privacy and settled the case for $284,000. Nader's lawsuit against GM was ultimately decided by the New York Court of Appeals, whose opinion in the case expanded tort law to cover "overzealous surveillance."[16]" -- wikipedia
― jeevves, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link
how is that similar?!
― ______ ___ ___________! (history mayne), Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link
If the woman withdraws consent and he ignores that then it's rape. This piece is good on why:
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/12/06/some-thoughts-on-sex-by-surprise/
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link
how the fuck is that "telling"?
― caek, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link
xxp
If nothing else, this case has proved how deeply conspiracy theorist thinking is sunk into the mainstream. I don't know whether or not this will turn out to be a stitch-up but the widespread assumption that it is just because it's "fishy" or "convenient" is not a sign of grown-up political debate.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link