The Shining

it's not the burial ground that spawns evil, it's the desecration of the burial ground iirc? tho maybe pet semetary iirc it wasn't bc it was desecrated but bc it was a burial site for cannibal victims or something?

damn if Stephen King is giving it a rave I better check it out

Why does King think all Indian burial grounds spawn evil

― | (Latham Green), Friday, June 14, 2019 7:49 AM (one hour ago)

Exactly why I love what Kubrick did with The Shining (esp. through the Room237 filter!)

The “Indian burial ground” is not in the novel, it’s kubrick’s addition (although yeah king later used it in pet sematary)

The best example of king getting owned by filmmakers will always be that he wrote a mallet attack into the shining and Kubrick changed it to an axe to much better effect, and then years later he wrote an axe attack into misery and Reiner changed it to a mallet... to much better effect

amityville horror was one of kubrick's favourite films

TIL that poltergeist does NOT feature an IBG (technically I learned that when I watched it, but I misremembered it as having one until reading this article just now)

pale-tergeist

so I got about 1/3 of the way through this book and it was hokey and kind of dumb. holding out hope the movie is better but the book didn't impress and King's kindly magical negro stuff really grated (it's been ages since I read one of his books so it's not like that's new, but I'd forgotten about it).

One thing about the Shining is it seems like its one of those movies that is all about creepy mystery and if you tried to explain it the thing would fall apart - creepy mystery is only good when its in a quantum state

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_NZpkttXE

Damn. For a second, I thought Jim Carrey's acting skills had jumped a mile.

The only way to make that more terrifying is to deepfake Carrey's face on to Shelley Duvall too.

Please explain what a deepfake is. I love that clip, but I'm confused as to what's been done.

Using AI to CGI humans, is how I understand it - instead of painstaking work to change faces frame to frame they use machine learning to do it faster and better.

That's the original movie with Jim Carrey's face wrapped around Jack Nicholson's head.

the crossed eyes at the end are pretty creepy

Thanks--read a little bit online. That clip is...quite amazing.

fun stuff on that guy's channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjI-JaRWG7s

The Stallone Terminator 2 clip has some transitions where it's clearly still Arnie's face, I couldn't tell if it was done on purpose or a function of the angles/lighting in the bar scene.

You can now just about watch the last act with Ace Ventura as Jack Torrance:

https://i.imgur.com/FiOOjpT.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZRUZzZPGto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx59bskG8dc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvoEW7l5rs

Stuff might DIOT but these deepfakes are wild. It's one thing to add the dead guy back into Fast and Furious or the dead guy back into the new Star Wars movie. You still need some anonymous stand-in to drive the car or whatever.

What about All the Money in the World, replacing Kevin Spacey with Christopher Plummer? Seems a little less ethical though likely cheaper to downgrade an actor's performance to just being a stand-in. Though is that much different than, say, overdubbing Andie Macdowell's voice in Tarzan the Ape Man with Glenn Close?

The more I watch these, the more I see where they're not so accurate. It's crazy how well they fit into the lighting and shadows, but kinda lose their luster as soon as something partially hides the face, like a chopped-up piece of a door.

idgi why they didn't put his face on the wife and kid also?

You think I'm joking, but wait until you see the Fight Club one.

"DIOT"?

"Deserves Its Own Thread"

Acronym's been around for at least 12 hours since I came up with it two posts ago.

Today, quite literally, the twins from THE SHINING (right) told me to buy this ring (left) during a craft fair on Kubrick's estate. I feel like I've completed some kind of boss level pic.twitter.com/Zq6ZMDeZC1

— Tim Robey (@trim_obey) July 7, 2019

http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/233777

by the way, in Portuguese it's called... https://abrilvejasp.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/20124691.jpeg

The green bathroom set is great!

Can't help wondering how many innocent people are about to be framed for crimes they didn't commit while we work out the particular bugs of this acid trip technology

That said, I look forward to seeing myself as Spock

The Shining seems like particularly fertile ground for this dumb tech. Would like to see Halloran’s face on the Grady twins, or Ullman’s visage on the old woman in the bathroom.

The Shining starring Vladimir Putin

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1FYBucHimm/

lol 12 years ago I called this Kubrick's second worst movie (after Eyes Wide Shut) although after watching most of it over the weekend in a hotel room (lol) I feel a bit more generous towards it.

Which makes uh Full Metal Jacket his second worst movie, I guess? The back half of that is a slog.

Do people just not count Fear and Desire when making statements like that?

in my case yes, it's the only one I've never seen

The Shining. pic.twitter.com/Y1T0gaXNKG

— Amazon Movie Reviews (@AmznMovieRevws) February 7, 2020

Ashamed to say but there’s a shining Mountain Dew commercial out now, wtf fml

Fuck advertising

Mountain Dew pouring through the elevator lobby in that ad made me lol, not gonna lie.

“The Shining” but from an Aunt’s POV.#31auntsforhalloween pic.twitter.com/Gfm32iTDb9

— Andrew Farmer (@thatsajellyfish) October 10, 2020

Don't begrudge it to me, J.J.--I'm allowing myself exactly one of these.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/bernie.jpg

late lol at that aunt twitter

Good one

Just to clarify, I lifted that from somewhere else...Thanks for pointing out the Aunt's POV tweet--that is pretty great.

"Once again, I am asking you to come and play with us, Danny."

re-read the novel & i just need to dump this out of my head because i am working through some shit lol

I think the disconnect btw Novel Jack vs Movie Jack needs to be expressed like, um… it’s not that movie jack is bad & novel jack is good
there’s more nuance & subtlety carried in the book, and i think ultimately, as w most SK books to movies, what is lost is the internal strugglesof the characters because that’s where all his best writing really lives imo
and it is not something easily shown onscreen & kubrick is not one for that stuff anyway

the thing is novel jack *knows* deep down that he is incapable of not fucking up, and wants to earn himself a reprieve from fucking up by putting himself somewhere where he hopefully can’t. Removing all stimuli, etc.
And naively/selfishly thinking that by doing that, his family will be ok by extension.
it’s all addict-driven thought, clean slates, etc.
like if i do THIS perfectly then everything will be fine, but the pressure to do everything right is what makes it so much harder because you are starting with a flawed premise that you are even emotionally able to achieve such a high bar … so it becomes self-fulfilling addict-brain self-sabotage.

anyway.

what the movie takes away is the really slow, scary way that the hotel is trying to tune jack into selfdestruct, tuning him into the self isolating hunted addict mind where everyone is against him, where alcohol makes him the better version of himself, where he is finally surrounded by people and parties and not left to his thoughts & doubts & fears of being a bad father, bad writer, bad person, alcoholic etc

the way the book slowly dials him in to the poison brain is so well done, like it starts SO early and you don’t always catch that that’s whats happening to him. and it’s truly, genuinely heartbreaking towards the end, like watching someone slowly turning inside out, the moment where the hotel wins its fight with him when he is rationalizing his father’s abuse of his mother when we’ve already walked through the horror that he witnessed. like, oh. ok he’s gone.

and worse … when Danny sees his dad and the dread he experiences when he realizes the dad he loves is no longer there….

that emotional journey is the whole point of the book, i think. not jusr the journey of the addict, but the moment for the child of the addict when a parent is replaced by a monster, and the real loss that is felt when they realize what is happening.
jack is abusive to danny throughout the book yes but it co-exists in a real way with a tender relationship & genuine sweet moments of parenting, and without any of that tenderness, with Jack as just a jerk all the time like he is in the movie, there’s nothing for danny to lose, and there’s no real tragedy in jack giving himself over completely to the hotel’s malevolent pull/ addiction.

thank you for attending my TED talk

The directors cut of Doctor Sleep is v good, because they chapterize it, so it’s like watching a 6-ep HBO miniseries

Also, yeah, rewatching the film and re-reading the book last month does kinda justify SK’s position to me of why he didn’t like the adaption.

Tho I don’t know if this justifies the 1997 tv miniseries, which you can watch in full on Archive.org (with commercial breaks!). That one is more hilariously dated than anything just by showing Tony in a VERY 1997 outfit, glasses, and hairstyle.

VG your fandom posts are always such a treat, brings me into the joy you feel and lets me love it too. Don't ever stop!