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I just watched the shining again. Is this movie about the revenge of dead Indian souls or just evil possesion?

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The SHINNING.

It's about Stanley Kubrick being a pretentious twerp, and Jack Nicholson & Shelley Duvall over-acting. Scatman Crothers, though, saves this flick from COMPLETE uselessness.

David Raposa, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

YOu know I was thinking, I might actually like it more if NIcholson and Duvall were replaced by some other lesser known actors. You see Nicholson and hes not scarey so much as rascally, and Duvall is just annoying.

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Yay Scatman Crothers! Drives eight million miles in a milkfloat just to get chopped in the chest with a fire-axe!! He also has the same poster on his bedroom wall as Chef in South Park. Sub-thread q. Name the first Indian Burial Ground movie... (for london readers: plaguepit = uk equiv of indian bg...)

mark s, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Just bought the DVD over the weekend; the transfer is quite disappointing--might as well be VHS. The documentary was interesting though. I think Kubrick really disliked Duvall, there wasn't one positive exchange in the docu between them. Directors sometimes prod actors to get more of a reaction out of them on film, maybe that was what he was doing, but it seemed to be a genuine irritation.

I still say it's a great film, at the very least visually speaking. The symmetrical corridors, the maze, the quick splicing of those ugly little girls. Brilliant trailer, which is simply the elevator/blood sequence with credits scrolling past. Nicholson's overacting is total classic. The last scenes as Duvall's running around the hotel are a bit too much. Anyway, I was watching it again and I think one of the best scenes in the film is the one in the bathroom with Delbert Grady, as "Midnight with the Stars and You" plays outside in the ballroom. I love how when they first bump into each other, Grady seems like a kindly butler-sort, but when Jack calls him on his past, he suddenly shifts to effectively sinister.

Joe, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

the shining is ace.

ethan, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The Shining is CLASSIC. Of course in hindsight you sort of cringe because now Jackie does overact. I love it. It's about being cut off from society and tricycles! Weeee! Not those damn steps (or whatever you call'em) which daft cunts use these days.... sometimes even on trains.
How about Altman's Popeye film with S. Duval? Christ that flick scared the shit outa me.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

red rum, red rum.

Geoff, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Its pretty amazing that although the whole film is very brightly lit, its still creepy as hell. Whats up with that ghost in the wierd bunny outfit!?

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

But Mark, I can't think of a single horror story related to plague pits. Please enlighten me.

DG, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I was hoping someone else wd have an answer!! I don't know of any Brit movies abt it. There was an episode of Doomwatch, in the late60s/early 70s. The film abt cannibals on the underground: they are also disease-infested, tho not specifically plague. Quatermass and the Pit sorta skirts round the idea, before haring off after martians (same as I wd, but still). There is a short story by Clive Barker, in the Books of Blood (book one, I think), which is absolutely precisely exactly abt it, and is probably what got me obsessing abt it in the first place.

mark s, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The Shining - classic. Second scariest movie ever made (first = Suspiria.)

Plague movies, hmmm... Wot abt 'Plague of Zombies' (1966 Hammer flick) - years since I've seen it, can't remember much abt it, poss. plague zombiefication involved tho'. And don't recall an Indian burial ground flick before 'Poltergeist'.

Andrew L, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

the shining is classic.

sundar subramanian, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Classic because i think it was Kubricks response to his blocks. Plus it is one of a very few movies i can stand Nicholson in .

anthony, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The Shining sucks, it's not even scary.

Ally, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Ally, do you think ANY horror movies are scary?

Andrew L, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I love this topic. There is one frightening movie that I have seen not too long ago and that was the Prophecy. Has anyone seen it? Christopher Walken was the actor... Very chilling! Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Ally, do you think ANY horror movies are scary

No, I'm unfortunately very jaded. My mom forced me to watch The Exorcist when I was like 4, what can I say?

Ally, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Jack can do no wrong.

Neither can Krzysztof Penderecki (gotta stick up fer fellow Polacks with a name unpronounceable by Anglophones!)

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
The miniseries version is running on Sci-Fi. OMG, this is awful.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Stephen King loved it because it was blindly faithful to the book. Meh.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

stephen king sure doesn't have a good track record when it comes to having anything to do with tv mini-serieseseses.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

isn't steven weber in this one?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Not only is he in it, but he tries to do a Jack Nicholson impression every once in a while!

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It occurs to me that the guys from Wings are popular in King series - the Stand, the Shining, the winter storm one. Is Tony Shalhoub going to be in the next one?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

what about the pretty lady?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't remember that much about Wings.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

king always loves movies when they stick close to his books. he hated "the shining" so he remade it into a version that he felt was closer. "pet sematary" was a piece of shit too but he loved it because it followed his (admittedly pretty good) novel almost to the letter.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

stephen king sure doesn't have a good track record when it comes to having anything to do with tv mini-serieseseses.

Wha? I don't know about you, but Salem's Lot scared the shit out of me when I first saw it.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i don't know about you, but i never saw it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I saw a Stephen King-approved Carrie TV movie. That was TERRIBLE.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

can't wait for the "stand by me" mini-series with jonathan lipnicki, jonathan taylor thomas, brian austin green and the guy who played jonathan in buffy!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Watched the last thirty minutes of the Shining miniseries. Yep, now I remember why I hated it in '97.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I dropped it to watch some Dawson's Creek reruns. Jen was mega-hot the last season.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 05:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Stephen King isn't very scary so there

Frank Swedehead, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Its pretty amazing that although the whole film is very brightly lit, its still creepy as hell. Whats up with that ghost in the wierd bunny outfit!?

-- Ehh, I rewatched this a few nights ago. When Shelley's running through the Overlook at the end of the film there's this sudden snap-zoom and all of a sudden a fat man in a bear-suit giving a bloody blow-job fills the frame. It lasts for about four seconds, and it's creepy as shit. I was with watching this with Jon William in Rochester a few years ago and I was stoned as could be and thought I was hallucinating the scene. No dice, though.

Jeremy Coombs (Atila the Honeybun), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"pet sematary" was a piece of shit too but he loved it because it followed his (admittedly pretty good) novel almost to the letter.

One good scene (the funeral argument) does not a good book make! I found the whole thing boring and stupid.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

no one buries pets in a graveyard thats just stupid, mosta the time they are put into stew

OldHickBill, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:55 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Scatman Crothers!

http://www.mechaex.com/wmd/JAZZ.jpg

Hero Worship (Barima), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm a Scatman bad a bid up a boo buddah, oh thats scatman john

ScatmanJohnFanclub Hostess, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i watched the movie and thought it was really bad as i was reading the book i got really scared! its so descriptive ...

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I liked how the book put you in the kid's head more than Kubrick's film, but the end was (in typical King fashion) pretty weak.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Made it through the first 1:50 before I started nodding off tonight.

Compared to the book, now, the only thing I miss is any sort of balance to Jack - even the minor moments of being a loving/caring human being. Everything else Kubrick changed or eliminated seem right on, though.

Seriously one of the most chilling movies right up through meeting Grady in the ballroom/bathroom - that kills all the momentum and drama (poss. I just know what's going to happen). The disassociation caused by the overacting music and framing create tension even in innocuous scenes, but it doesn't work when Kubrick tries to be more traditional, you just start noticing that Shelley Duvall has huge fucking eyes.

The naked black women in Scatman Crothers' bachelor pad are almost as great as the masked biker men in The Royal Tenenbaums.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Didn't scare me the first time I saw it, but it gets worse and worse on every viewing, and last time I tried (couple of months ago, on a tuesday afternoon) I had to stop halfway through. For me, it's scary cos having somebody be angry with you is scary, and...Jack's angry with me.

And yeah, the aniaml-outfit-fellatio thing is really really freaky. In the book, it turns out the guy he's sucking off is the owner of the hotel. The owner of the hotel is called Horace Derwent. He's got the same (not particularly common) surname as me. So I shat myself when I read that.

JimD (JimD), Sunday, 9 May 2004 10:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"And yeah, the aniaml-outfit-fellatio thing is really really freaky. In the book, it turns out the guy he's sucking off is the owner of the hotel"

yeah, i think it actually works better in the movie because its so inexplicable.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"pet sematary" was a piece of shit too but he loved it because it followed his (admittedly pretty good) novel almost to the letter.
One good scene (the funeral argument) does not a good book make! I found the whole thing boring and stupid.

Well, I just disagree. I liked it because it was just a really creepy update of the monkey's paw. the parts with dead children and the nightime journey to the indian burial ground were really effective to me.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ANYWAY, miloauckerman OTM.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
http://waxy.org/random/video/shining_redux.mov

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's really good.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah something tells me that will not be another blade runner 2046

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I saw the hospital scene in 1980. It's superfluous and confuses things (even further).

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 17:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Danny isn't here Mr Green

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Red ROM!

http://www.toysyouhad.com/Rom.htm

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:41 (one week ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/2msJTFvhkU4

Roz, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:34 (three days ago) Permalink

...

I had no idea about this! It looks like it could be very terrible haha.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:41 (three days ago) Permalink

mike flanagan! that... makes me more hopeful than it should

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:43 (three days ago) Permalink

then again i never watched his adaptation of gerald's game

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:45 (three days ago) Permalink

Yeah, I would normally not be onboard a Shining sequel starring Ewan McGregor, but Mike Flanagan's involvement makes me interested.

King predictably hates it already, tweeting this instead lol.

How about Netflix bringing back UNDER THE DOME, only starting from scratch and actually doing the book?

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) June 13, 2019

Roz, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:59 (three days ago) Permalink

King's hatred of a movie adaptation of his work is about the only sure-fire way to pique my interest, especially if it's related to The Shining.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:00 (three days ago) Permalink

Always a good sign when the trailer for your sequel relies almost entirely on famous clips from the original movie, plus modern actors re-enacting iconic shots from the original movie. What could possibly go wrong?

One Eye Open, Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:08 (three days ago) Permalink

haha, the Kubrick shots are in painful contrast with the "made-for-netlix" lighting on all the sequel footage.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:12 (three days ago) Permalink

I'm honestly kind of surprised that a trailer for a Shining sequel where a super handsome movie star furrows his brow and dramatically says "I always called it... THE SHINING" hasn't already been done on Mr Show or FunnyOrDie or something

One Eye Open, Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:18 (three days ago) Permalink

This looks bad but then again trailers are bad but then again Flanagan will do everything he can to walk the line between reverence for kubrick’s film and fidelity to king’s crappy sequel novel, which will be bad

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:26 (three days ago) Permalink

trailers are the least bad thing of all those things

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:28 (three days ago) Permalink

I agree and I really don’t like trailers

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:29 (three days ago) Permalink

I'm quite surprised Flanagan is leaning on Kubrick so much. His Gerald's Game adaptation was extremely faithful to the book - to its detriment

Number None, Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:50 (three days ago) Permalink

For sure, and that same impulse - pulled in two directions - is now gonna give us the worst of both worlds I think

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:57 (three days ago) Permalink

I can't be mad about closing it with Wendy Carlos's arrangement of "Dies Irae."

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:57 (three days ago) Permalink

It’s funny cause hill house was such a loose interpretation of the text, apparently it’s only the male SKs whose ~vision~ you have to respect

(Also proved that mike could come up with shitty mawkish endings all on his own without a source text like Gerald’s game)

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:00 (three days ago) Permalink

tbf Shirley Jackson's initials are not SK

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:06 (three days ago) Permalink

She’s not male either

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:09 (three days ago) Permalink

lol rereading my elaborate opinions on gerald's game elsewhere, this shining film will be bad

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:17 (three days ago) Permalink

also now i'm thinking of a kubrick version of gerald's game

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:19 (three days ago) Permalink

cuffs wide shut

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:19 (three days ago) Permalink

bondy lyndon

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:24 (three days ago) Permalink

Dr Strangelove or how I stopped worrying and learned to love the bond

omar little, Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:25 (three days ago) Permalink

Or whatever the hell it was called~!

omar little, Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:25 (three days ago) Permalink

apparently the only shot in that trailer that is Kubrick's is the blood coming from the elevators -- everything else is new footage from Flanagan.

https://screencrush.com/the-shining-doctor-sleep-comparison/

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 01:17 (two days ago) Permalink

making, with Ready Player One, two movies in two years that have used re-created scenes from The Shining.

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 01:28 (two days ago) Permalink

What scene did RPO use?

calstars, Friday, 14 June 2019 01:39 (two days ago) Permalink

Oh wait, I was wrong - King likes this after all and this is probably going to be v bad, haha.

This movie is going to blow your mind. If you have any left after IT CHAPTER 2, that is. https://t.co/cUPCfwZS08

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) June 13, 2019

I still think Gerald's Game is a great watch as long as you skip the last five minutes or so.

Roz, Friday, 14 June 2019 02:38 (two days ago) Permalink

King likes or claims to like any/all adaptations of his work these days

Simon H., Friday, 14 June 2019 02:45 (two days ago) Permalink

that said I like Flanagan in general, more for how humane, well-edited and well-acted his movies are than how "scary"

Simon H., Friday, 14 June 2019 02:46 (two days ago) Permalink

humane unless you have acromegaly :(

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 08:30 (two days ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/jyriz.jpg

Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 June 2019 09:11 (two days ago) Permalink

Why does King think all Indian burial grounds spawn evil

| (Latham Green), Friday, 14 June 2019 14:49 (two days ago) Permalink

he invented that, it's his thing

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 14:56 (two days ago) Permalink

it's not the burial ground that spawns evil, it's the desecration of the burial ground iirc? tho maybe pet semetary iirc it wasn't bc it was desecrated but bc it was a burial site for cannibal victims or something?

Mordy, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:24 (two days ago) Permalink

damn if Stephen King is giving it a rave I better check it out

omar little, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:27 (two days ago) Permalink

Why does King think all Indian burial grounds spawn evil

― | (Latham Green), Friday, June 14, 2019 7:49 AM (one hour ago)

Exactly why I love what Kubrick did with The Shining (esp. through the Room237 filter!)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:18 (two days ago) Permalink

The “Indian burial ground” is not in the novel, it’s kubrick’s addition (although yeah king later used it in pet sematary)

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:22 (two days ago) Permalink

The best example of king getting owned by filmmakers will always be that he wrote a mallet attack into the shining and Kubrick changed it to an axe to much better effect, and then years later he wrote an axe attack into misery and Reiner changed it to a mallet... to much better effect

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:27 (two days ago) Permalink

amityville horror was one of kubrick's favourite films

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:28 (two days ago) Permalink

TIL that poltergeist does NOT feature an IBG (technically I learned that when I watched it, but I misremembered it as having one until reading this article just now)

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:32 (two days ago) Permalink

pale-tergeist

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:40 (two days ago) Permalink

so I got about 1/3 of the way through this book and it was hokey and kind of dumb. holding out hope the movie is better but the book didn't impress and King's kindly magical negro stuff really grated (it's been ages since I read one of his books so it's not like that's new, but I'd forgotten about it).

akm, Saturday, 15 June 2019 14:29 (yesterday) Permalink


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