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Just read a great article about race + marijuana arrests in New York by Mark Jacobson: http://nymag.com/news/features/58995/

I don't think there's another thread like this -- a place to discuss the current movements to legalize marijuana (medicinally or otherwise) throughout the United States (and anywhere else that interests people), and any other legal/political/racial issues involved.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cary Tennis' last column on Salon is called "How I Became a Pothead": http://www.salon.com/life/drugs/index.html?story=/mwt/col/tenn/2010/06/03/marijuana

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Some other more recent stories:

Marie Myung-Ok Lee's "Why I Give My 9-Year-Old Pot" Series from Slate:
http://www.slate.com/id/2251174/

Marijuana inspiring Cuisine in NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/dining/19pot.html

Jack Shafer telling NY Times they are ridiculous for writing that piece:
http://www.slate.com/id/2254397/

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

not sure i want to read "why i gave my 9-year-old pot" but.. hm..
intriguingly, my mom's position on weed has flipped--she used to bother me about 'becoming a druggie' and now she is all 'oh, i think pot should be legalized.' maybe she's been lighting up?

ian, Sunday, 6 June 2010 18:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

living in massachusetts i can openly smoke pot at my gay wedding, but good luck to the rest of you.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://johngushue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/19/bob_dylan_greenwich_village.jpg

Come gather round people wherever you roam...

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

I cannot help but conclude, after a lifetime of observation, that the present power regime in the USA will never consent to legalize drugs, even if it results in more rational regulation of these activities, a massively lowering of the costs of incarceration (both social as well as monetary), and a cutting off of the funding for huge criminal organizations.

There's just too much money at stake in continuing the drug war now. The cops are mostly in favor of it, because it gives them more power and money, and they get to look like they are saving society from a scourge, while they are just engaging in a lot of fruitless, showy, theatrical idiocy. The prison industry is all for it. And politicians love it, because hating on druggies is the opposite side of the coin from loving mom and apple pie.

Against such stupidity even the gods contend in vain.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really? Cause the winds seem to be heavily blowing towards legalization.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just became medically legalized in NJ, NY is currently looking to medically legalize it.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Those winds of legalization will die away to a whisper in the South. If the Feds maintain prohibition, then the states will not be able to enact the kind of reform and regulation that will do a proper job of it.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm okay with that. I think that if it becomes legal (or de facto legal) in enough of the country, eventually that'll push things over federally too. You just need to build some momentum, and I see momentum all over the place.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

If we could just strangle enough RRW Republicans, then maybe...

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

... but moral scruples forbid me to discuss this line of thought.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

― harbl, Sunday, June 6, 2010 3:14 PM (41 minutes ago)

idk, i agree totally about pot and think that all drug possessions should be decriminalized, but i wouldn't extend that 'freedom' to other illicit drugs or prescription medications obv

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

neither would i!

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha yeah i basically figured that's what you meant, i'm in lolcollege so i've had one too many conversations w/ ppl who are like yeah pot should be legal! fuck it all drugs should be legal!

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

penalties in ca may be reclassified (no longer misdemeanor)

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/cannabis-chronicles/marijuana-possession-less-than/

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw, but the fact that it's a question is amazing even given the state of bud politics here.

vast majority of la dispensaries needing to ROLL with the punches meanwhile
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_15235255?source=rss

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

they're pushing to get full legalization on the ballot in oregon this fall

what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Sunday, 6 June 2010 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

― Mordy, Sunday, June 6, 2010 12:37 PM (4 hours ago)

I've done this, though if it's kept to politics rather than personal habits, I don't know how necessary it was.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hope it's not just a lolcollege idea to want to see see all drugs legalized. obviously we're not talking crack being freely available to schoolkids from the corner shop here; there would besome kind of sliding scale of control, e.g. cannabis as free as tobacco, e/speed/coke over the counter at the pharmacy, heroin perhaps only on prescription for registered addicts. i really don't see the benefit in having any substance completely criminalised. it does not effectively discourage use; it turns ordinary people into criminals - at best merely for usage/possession, at worst for having to commit crime in order to maintain a supply; it enables an enormous criminal trade; it means there is no control over substance purity. if drugs were under government control they would be clean and pure, they could be taxed to help fund treatment for addicts, and there would surely be a huge reduction in drug related crime.

ok maybe things wouldn't be quite that rosy. but it's clear the current system is a complete failure. and in general while i'm far from libertarian i am a strong believer in personal liberty and the idea of the government having such a strong say over what i choose to put into my body is anathema to me.

sent from my neural lace (ledge), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

no i don't think the lolcollege thing refers to what you're talking about, just a certain type of libertarian thinking. i don't believe in drug criminalization either for the same reasons as you said, it has done a lot of very bad things to america in my opinion.

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

Full legalization is a LONG way away. The area of law I practice in, employment, is one of the areas where this is really clear: The California Fair Employment and Housing Act, or FEHA, recognizes the use of some prescription drugs, and mandates that employers, in certain situations, must accommodate the user of those drugs if the use of those drugs somehow limits their ability to do their job.

But it doesn't provide the same protections to medical marijuana. The way in which the Compassionate Care Act of 1996 was drafted, it addresses only the criminal aspects as it pertains to patients. It doesn't address employment aspects, or any of the other ways in which marijuana can impact lives. The CA Supreme Court ruled that employers do not have to accommodate compassionate care users for precisely this reason - the Act doesn't address employment law. Kind of a legal punt, but it drew attention to just how narrowly the Compassionate Care Act is drawn. There was an Oregon decision recently which arrived at the same rationale. Now, if two of the most pot-friendly states in the country have rulings like that on the books, the 9th circuit is not likely to hold another way if a case were to make it that far.

But the decriminalization has been good. And, in reality, no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag. Driving while doing smoking/stoned? Another story, as well it should be.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

I doubt we'll ever see pot legalized, though it would be so convenient if it was. OK, maybe not "ever," but I really seriously doubt it'll happen in the next 20-40 years, or so long as we have Mormons in the U.S.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rev otm, and if you're in the "wrong" neighborhood, you'd be surprised how small an infraction you can end up in handcuffs for

the mom most likely to comprehend juggalos (J0hn D.), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

― donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, June 7, 2010 10:02 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

I used to work at a diner where for dishwashers we hired convicts who were trying to get back on their feet, and they were mostly black guys that had been in jail for years and years after being busted in this way. Legalization is in a large part a civil rights cause.

Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 June 2010 16:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw

why do you think this...? I haven't seen any authoritative polling to-date.

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 16:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/31/local/la-me-0601-poll-20100529

i just have a feeling. people don't pay attention to propositions, even this one, until the ads start ratcheting up and the opposition has a lot of boogeymen to unleash, not to mention opposing the measure more forcefully in the coming months is low-hanging fruit for both of the likely gub nominees. from what i've seen, trying to put myself in the shoes of the 'average voter' the pro argument as articulated feels kind of ad-hoc but that could change too.

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Besides the Office of National Drug Control Policy, who funds opposition advertising? Someone said the cigarette companies spend a lot on opposition advertising, but I couldn't find any data to support that. Anyone here know?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

cigarette companies are all broke I thought

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I would not be surprised if it were religious people (cough cough Mormons). If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

are tobacco companies even allowed to spend campaign money? so many lawsuits/civil suits have crippled the industry

xp

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

I can see this happening. at the same time, most of the country does not love Mormons, much less being told what to do by Mormons.

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

like what is the percentage that thinks Mormons aren't "really" Christians...? it's pretty high iirc

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, sure, but it worked w/Prop 8, right?

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

And it's not like they would advertise, "WE, the MORMONS, want you to never smoke pot! And also we don't really have multiple wives. Brought to you by THE MORMONS."

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sponsored by the Mormons For Curtailing Your Fun Committee for America (c)

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

At any rate, this topic of converrsation ("will pot be legalized") always kind of feels like a mass funtime of projections of the speakers' pasts & desires. I, por ejemplo, would love for pot to be legalized, but grew up in a community where smoking weed was tantamount (in perceived riskiness & evilness) to smoking meth. This informs my perspective. I imagine someone who grew up in a less conservative area, or had pot-smoking parents, would have a more optimistic view. ANd someone who thinks weed is bad, and has never smoked it, would naturally be more inclined to say it's so not gonna happen. I feel in some ways like there's no way to know.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

i suspect in my lifetime we will see the states where it's been cleared for medical purposes legalize it wholesale; everywhere else will be in sort of limbo between where we are now and full legalization

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

It seems to me that once it's become fully legalized in a few states, it'll be de facto legal everywhere. They can't exactly set up state border patrols to make sure you aren't buying in NJ and driving it up to NY, or whatever.

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

still pretty illegal in lots of europe, despite amsterdam

iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Europe's different

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

As far as I know, Prohibition was repealed everywhere all at once, but an interesting comparison might be individual state tax laws on vices. Technically, afaik, it's illegal to buy alcohol in NJ and then drive it into PA, but this obviously happens all the time, whenever someone in Cherry Hill picks up a bottle of wine and then drives to his friend's place in Philadelphia, and it's de facto legal. How can you enforce that kind of law?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

wrt CA as an avowed pessimist the fact that they gathered the signatures still feels like found money, bottom line is i think the radius of 'public consciousness raising' for legalization hasn't extended nearly as far as the medical angle, which tbh still relies on compassion for the very very sick to get over (medical cannabis is not going away but it's still plenty begrudged among the majority of counties and municipalities). i mean i hope that's an antiguated view of how politics move in 2010 but yeah, prop 8. think we can just wipe away the culture of prohibition w/o at least will n' gracing it for a minute, it just can't be that easy, right?

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, i guess i would liken it blue laws around here. like, you would probably never ever be able to just pop by dispensary/ package store in the state of Tennessee and buy a nice bottle of wine and some white widow for your dinner party. but if you were pulled over and had an oz cops would just be like eh, whatever - as long as you aren't smokin & drivin (someone will obviously need to build some kind of breath-alizer for weed if it's ever to be legalized i'm guessing)

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

it wasn’t all that bad actually because i was at home and about an hour in when I realized how bad i had fucked up I decided to get in bed and sleep it off ... and I immediately passed out

woke up about 16 hrs later feeling quite groggy (not high) and that groggy feeling took a day or two to pass

i put the rest of the brownie down the garbage disposal instead of the trash because i was afraid a raccoon would get at it and flip the fuck out

the late great, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xp yeah i guess so. i’ve been smoking daily for close to 10 years now and it was way over my tolerance but i guess it might be different if i was eating edibles daily

the late great, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

a single brownie broken into 50 pieces?! that is absurd.
how is labeling of edibles standardized? is there something like a nutrition label or a metric like proof/alcohol to determine strength? do people follow the directions usually?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

They usually have a label with the THC amount. This is based on Californian ones, could be different elsewhere

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

until it's legal nationally, is it likely that standards & labeling will vary from state to state?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

how much did that 50 doser cost?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xp aiui yes, as well as testing standards unfortunately

sleeve, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the thing about quantity of thc in edibles is that the cannabis oil it is made with is not distributed equally, so you may get a nibble and have close to no thc while another part of it may have way more

i think we've had this conversation in another thread before

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i'm just wondering because a movement to standardize units and labeling would be interesting
and seems pretty necessary from what i've read here

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

not as a measure to limit consumption, but to measure consumption

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

reliably

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

anyone rate the iced tea drinks?

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Commercial edibles usually use distillate now, which is 99% pure activated THC (and flavorless, so your brownies don't taste vaguely of dank lawn clippings) rather than traditional oil preps.

A friend brought back very low dose edibles - mints and chocolate covered blueberries in 2mg-5mg doses. Seemed pretty accurate in terms of how much it took to feel anything.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

many xposts the 1000mg bar was $40

the late great, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I made a tincture with distillate in Everclear but I hated it and gave away the bottles. A pregnant friend was saving hers for the future but her wine-mom/teacher reading group discovered the bottle in the freezer and drained it within a few sessions. Apparently 5 drops in a glass of wine was juuuuuust right.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

for me vaping is just not enough of a rush, edibles affect my body too much and also act too slowly, but smoking is just right.

calstars, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

A friend brought back very low dose edibles - mints and chocolate covered blueberries in 2mg-5mg doses. Seemed pretty accurate in terms of how much it took to feel anything.

― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, January 3, 2018 2:55 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for small and low dose edibles this sounds right ime

also w/r/t to tincture it really depends on so many factors

my grandfather can't have more than 2 drops in a glass

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

if you want a stronger hit you probably want to put the temperature of the vapourizer above something like 400f, if your alternative is smoking it, it wouldn't matter that it's that high anyway

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

my buddy has a pen for vaping shatter, it's great

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Welp, enjoy it while it lasts?

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

need to repeal federal law, ugh what a nightmare

Alan Watts (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 4 January 2018 16:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Great way to make the paranoid more paranoid

calstars, Thursday, 4 January 2018 16:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

A few weeks ago I mentioned the looming fear I've been feeling regarding Canada's legalization project. To be precise, I've had the hunch that we may end up in a society that's actually less free and more punitive than ever before. Case in point, the Quebec Landlords Association:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-landlords-clauses-marijuana-leases-2018-1.4476344

That's right, a whole new set of prohibitions, fines, injunctions, not to mention stronger enforcement of other laws as some sort of strange tit-for-tat on the part of the police.

In Montreal, you are 10 to 20 feet from someone who's smoking a joint at practically all times of day or night. In the dead of winter, at a bus stop across from a police station, emanating from the window of a seniors' retirement home, you name it. EVERYONE smokes cannabis in Quebec, EVERYONE.

It appals me that legalization threatens a status quo that's extremely tolerant. Or, perhaps, this is simply the opportunity that anti-drug conservative types have been waiting for. Legalize it, make buying it legally a typically Canadian over-regulated nightmare, then kick away the ladders on all the real freedom.

fields of salmon, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Welp, enjoy it while it lasts?

― louise ck (milo z)

hahaha, if you folks think us non-smokers will side with jefferson beauregard sessions over y'all you have to be smoking something

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 7 January 2018 02:04 (one week ago) Permalink

Repeal the law, my regular dispensary now has a massive queue of normies

brimstead, Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:47 (one week ago) Permalink

(Cali)

brimstead, Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:47 (one week ago) Permalink

otm

the late great, Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:49 (one week ago) Permalink

This is seriously absurd. What are the ppl who actually need medicine supposed to do? Shit their pants?

brimstead, Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Do you not just order online in California?

fields of salmon, Monday, 8 January 2018 15:00 (one week ago) Permalink

A few weeks ago I mentioned the looming fear I've been feeling regarding Canada's legalization project. To be precise, I've had the hunch that we may end up in a society that's actually less free and more punitive than ever before. Case in point, the Quebec Landlords Association:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-landlords-clauses-marijuana-leases-2018-1.4476344

That's right, a whole new set of prohibitions, fines, injunctions, not to mention stronger enforcement of other laws as some sort of strange tit-for-tat on the part of the police.

In Montreal, you are 10 to 20 feet from someone who's smoking a joint at practically all times of day or night. In the dead of winter, at a bus stop across from a police station, emanating from the window of a seniors' retirement home, you name it. EVERYONE smokes cannabis in Quebec, EVERYONE.

It appals me that legalization threatens a status quo that's extremely tolerant. Or, perhaps, this is simply the opportunity that anti-drug conservative types have been waiting for. Legalize it, make buying it legally a typically Canadian over-regulated nightmare, then kick away the ladders on all the real freedom.

― fields of salmon, Saturday, January 6, 2018 8:44 PM (two days ago)

this is interesting. can landlords ban cigarette smoking in apartments? they can in the US, iirc. if so, how would banning marijuana smoking be any different?

k3vin k., Monday, 8 January 2018 18:31 (one week ago) Permalink

i saw an infomercial on the morning of jan 1st in california where you could just pick up the phone and get some cbd (infused?) pills (i think they were pills) being marketed as some type of cure-all miracle drug

infinity (∞), Monday, 8 January 2018 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh man, my newage hippie sister-in-law is trying to set up a business selling CBD oil here in Maryland. She was openly doing this on FB the other day and telling people that it was legal because it didn't contain THC or something? It looks like the post has been taken down, so it must not have been without controversy.

how's life, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:37 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah there's a massive YouTube rabbit hole of vloggers pushing affiliate marketing. Seems pyramidy

fields of salmon, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:53 (one week ago) Permalink

CBD oil is legal in a lot of states, as long as it contains less than 0.3% THC iirc

some is "full spectrum," and contains everything from the hemp, some is "pure" and only contains CBD

gbx, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:57 (one week ago) Permalink

the 0.3% cutoff is what distinguishes "hemp" from "marijuana," even tho they're the same plant (a fact I only recently learned)

gbx, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:59 (one week ago) Permalink

I would think that the production of CBD oil would require licensing, testing and inspection at the state level.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:02 (one week ago) Permalink

xp

p sure hemp is from the male plant though

while it's the female plant that marijuana comes from

infinity (∞), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:03 (one week ago) Permalink

same species, though, innit -- i spent years thinking that hemp was ~related~ but not actually the same plant as marijuana

gbx, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:44 (one week ago) Permalink

xxp - the male/female thing is a myth, the difference in varieties is pretty much entirely the THC content

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:54 (one week ago) Permalink

so there is definitely some sex differences, right? i understand sex is complex in cannabis but my friend, who grows his own stuff, i guess simplified it when he told me males produce really low levels of thc, so in order not to waste them, hemp is made out of them and also put into stuff like beer

while female buds provide the highest levels of thc and so are not used primarily for hemp, because they're harvested for their various high levels of thc. levels of thc diminish in other parts of the female plants

infinity (∞), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Only females can have the THC levels to get high (in the flowering buds) but industrial hemp grows have both male and female plants (that produce less than .3% in the US).

Per this - https://www.marijuanatimes.org/are-male-or-female-seeds-better-for-industrial-hemp-growing/ - even industrial grows prefer female plants sometimes?

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:41 (one week ago) Permalink

trump-nominated us attorney in massachusetts is being all cryptic:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/01/08/will-feds-crack-down-marijuana-not-campaign-wants-answers-from-attorney/ESFSOneZK2FKF2WtBWyQkL/story.html

maura, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 14:37 (one week ago) Permalink

everything i've seen regarding MA implementation has been an embarrassment

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 14:40 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah, my neighborhood had a local dispensary owner blocked because of kickbacks. so annoying

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/08/24/councilors-back-eastie-marijuana-dispensary-reject-allston-proposal/3EVH94fHQO78nkNXii2DDI/story.html

maura, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:02 (one week ago) Permalink

yea medical rollout has been a nightmare in boston. that was passed in 2012 iirc and dispensaries finally opened, what, last year?

marcos, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:24 (one week ago) Permalink

nightmare in boston MA i meant

marcos, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:25 (one week ago) Permalink

a deviation from the topic here, but has anyone else noticed the increase in dispensaries securing their doors (like using a buzzer system). in the last week there was one guy who stole $120 by hitting decline on the debit machine and bolting and an armed gunman wearing a mask trying to get beyond the buzzer locked door.

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:43 (one week ago) Permalink

(in vancouver)

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I just buy online, and am rarely disappointed.

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 21:45 (one week ago) Permalink

There's been a string of dispensary robberies in Southern California throughout the year.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 09:05 (one week ago) Permalink


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