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Just read a great article about race + marijuana arrests in New York by Mark Jacobson: http://nymag.com/news/features/58995/

I don't think there's another thread like this -- a place to discuss the current movements to legalize marijuana (medicinally or otherwise) throughout the United States (and anywhere else that interests people), and any other legal/political/racial issues involved.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (ten years ago) link

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (ten years ago) link

Cary Tennis' last column on Salon is called "How I Became a Pothead": http://www.salon.com/life/drugs/index.html?story=/mwt/col/tenn/2010/06/03/marijuana

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:41 (ten years ago) link

Some other more recent stories:

Marie Myung-Ok Lee's "Why I Give My 9-Year-Old Pot" Series from Slate:
http://www.slate.com/id/2251174/

Marijuana inspiring Cuisine in NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/dining/19pot.html

Jack Shafer telling NY Times they are ridiculous for writing that piece:
http://www.slate.com/id/2254397/

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:44 (ten years ago) link

not sure i want to read "why i gave my 9-year-old pot" but.. hm..
intriguingly, my mom's position on weed has flipped--she used to bother me about 'becoming a druggie' and now she is all 'oh, i think pot should be legalized.' maybe she's been lighting up?

ian, Sunday, 6 June 2010 18:52 (ten years ago) link

living in massachusetts i can openly smoke pot at my gay wedding, but good luck to the rest of you.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:05 (ten years ago) link

http://johngushue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/19/bob_dylan_greenwich_village.jpg

Come gather round people wherever you roam...

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:07 (ten years ago) link

I cannot help but conclude, after a lifetime of observation, that the present power regime in the USA will never consent to legalize drugs, even if it results in more rational regulation of these activities, a massively lowering of the costs of incarceration (both social as well as monetary), and a cutting off of the funding for huge criminal organizations.

There's just too much money at stake in continuing the drug war now. The cops are mostly in favor of it, because it gives them more power and money, and they get to look like they are saving society from a scourge, while they are just engaging in a lot of fruitless, showy, theatrical idiocy. The prison industry is all for it. And politicians love it, because hating on druggies is the opposite side of the coin from loving mom and apple pie.

Against such stupidity even the gods contend in vain.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (ten years ago) link

Really? Cause the winds seem to be heavily blowing towards legalization.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (ten years ago) link

Just became medically legalized in NJ, NY is currently looking to medically legalize it.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:10 (ten years ago) link

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:14 (ten years ago) link

Those winds of legalization will die away to a whisper in the South. If the Feds maintain prohibition, then the states will not be able to enact the kind of reform and regulation that will do a proper job of it.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:15 (ten years ago) link

I'm okay with that. I think that if it becomes legal (or de facto legal) in enough of the country, eventually that'll push things over federally too. You just need to build some momentum, and I see momentum all over the place.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:16 (ten years ago) link

If we could just strangle enough RRW Republicans, then maybe...

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:22 (ten years ago) link

... but moral scruples forbid me to discuss this line of thought.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:23 (ten years ago) link

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

― harbl, Sunday, June 6, 2010 3:14 PM (41 minutes ago)

idk, i agree totally about pot and think that all drug possessions should be decriminalized, but i wouldn't extend that 'freedom' to other illicit drugs or prescription medications obv

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:07 (ten years ago) link

neither would i!

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:08 (ten years ago) link

ha yeah i basically figured that's what you meant, i'm in lolcollege so i've had one too many conversations w/ ppl who are like yeah pot should be legal! fuck it all drugs should be legal!

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:10 (ten years ago) link

penalties in ca may be reclassified (no longer misdemeanor)

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/cannabis-chronicles/marijuana-possession-less-than/

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:18 (ten years ago) link

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw, but the fact that it's a question is amazing even given the state of bud politics here.

vast majority of la dispensaries needing to ROLL with the punches meanwhile
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_15235255?source=rss

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:24 (ten years ago) link

they're pushing to get full legalization on the ballot in oregon this fall

what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Sunday, 6 June 2010 21:51 (ten years ago) link

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

― Mordy, Sunday, June 6, 2010 12:37 PM (4 hours ago)

I've done this, though if it's kept to politics rather than personal habits, I don't know how necessary it was.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:02 (ten years ago) link

i hope it's not just a lolcollege idea to want to see see all drugs legalized. obviously we're not talking crack being freely available to schoolkids from the corner shop here; there would besome kind of sliding scale of control, e.g. cannabis as free as tobacco, e/speed/coke over the counter at the pharmacy, heroin perhaps only on prescription for registered addicts. i really don't see the benefit in having any substance completely criminalised. it does not effectively discourage use; it turns ordinary people into criminals - at best merely for usage/possession, at worst for having to commit crime in order to maintain a supply; it enables an enormous criminal trade; it means there is no control over substance purity. if drugs were under government control they would be clean and pure, they could be taxed to help fund treatment for addicts, and there would surely be a huge reduction in drug related crime.

ok maybe things wouldn't be quite that rosy. but it's clear the current system is a complete failure. and in general while i'm far from libertarian i am a strong believer in personal liberty and the idea of the government having such a strong say over what i choose to put into my body is anathema to me.

sent from my neural lace (ledge), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:27 (ten years ago) link

no i don't think the lolcollege thing refers to what you're talking about, just a certain type of libertarian thinking. i don't believe in drug criminalization either for the same reasons as you said, it has done a lot of very bad things to america in my opinion.

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:05 (ten years ago) link

Full legalization is a LONG way away. The area of law I practice in, employment, is one of the areas where this is really clear: The California Fair Employment and Housing Act, or FEHA, recognizes the use of some prescription drugs, and mandates that employers, in certain situations, must accommodate the user of those drugs if the use of those drugs somehow limits their ability to do their job.

But it doesn't provide the same protections to medical marijuana. The way in which the Compassionate Care Act of 1996 was drafted, it addresses only the criminal aspects as it pertains to patients. It doesn't address employment aspects, or any of the other ways in which marijuana can impact lives. The CA Supreme Court ruled that employers do not have to accommodate compassionate care users for precisely this reason - the Act doesn't address employment law. Kind of a legal punt, but it drew attention to just how narrowly the Compassionate Care Act is drawn. There was an Oregon decision recently which arrived at the same rationale. Now, if two of the most pot-friendly states in the country have rulings like that on the books, the 9th circuit is not likely to hold another way if a case were to make it that far.

But the decriminalization has been good. And, in reality, no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag. Driving while doing smoking/stoned? Another story, as well it should be.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:13 (ten years ago) link

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:02 (ten years ago) link

I doubt we'll ever see pot legalized, though it would be so convenient if it was. OK, maybe not "ever," but I really seriously doubt it'll happen in the next 20-40 years, or so long as we have Mormons in the U.S.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:14 (ten years ago) link

Rev otm, and if you're in the "wrong" neighborhood, you'd be surprised how small an infraction you can end up in handcuffs for

the mom most likely to comprehend juggalos (J0hn D.), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:54 (ten years ago) link

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

― donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, June 7, 2010 10:02 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

I used to work at a diner where for dishwashers we hired convicts who were trying to get back on their feet, and they were mostly black guys that had been in jail for years and years after being busted in this way. Legalization is in a large part a civil rights cause.

Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 June 2010 16:31 (ten years ago) link

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw

why do you think this...? I haven't seen any authoritative polling to-date.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/31/local/la-me-0601-poll-20100529

i just have a feeling. people don't pay attention to propositions, even this one, until the ads start ratcheting up and the opposition has a lot of boogeymen to unleash, not to mention opposing the measure more forcefully in the coming months is low-hanging fruit for both of the likely gub nominees. from what i've seen, trying to put myself in the shoes of the 'average voter' the pro argument as articulated feels kind of ad-hoc but that could change too.

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:51 (ten years ago) link

Besides the Office of National Drug Control Policy, who funds opposition advertising? Someone said the cigarette companies spend a lot on opposition advertising, but I couldn't find any data to support that. Anyone here know?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:57 (ten years ago) link

cigarette companies are all broke I thought

I would not be surprised if it were religious people (cough cough Mormons). If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:00 (ten years ago) link

are tobacco companies even allowed to spend campaign money? so many lawsuits/civil suits have crippled the industry

xp

If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

I can see this happening. at the same time, most of the country does not love Mormons, much less being told what to do by Mormons.

like what is the percentage that thinks Mormons aren't "really" Christians...? it's pretty high iirc

Well, sure, but it worked w/Prop 8, right?

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (ten years ago) link

And it's not like they would advertise, "WE, the MORMONS, want you to never smoke pot! And also we don't really have multiple wives. Brought to you by THE MORMONS."

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:02 (ten years ago) link

Sponsored by the Mormons For Curtailing Your Fun Committee for America (c)

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:04 (ten years ago) link

At any rate, this topic of converrsation ("will pot be legalized") always kind of feels like a mass funtime of projections of the speakers' pasts & desires. I, por ejemplo, would love for pot to be legalized, but grew up in a community where smoking weed was tantamount (in perceived riskiness & evilness) to smoking meth. This informs my perspective. I imagine someone who grew up in a less conservative area, or had pot-smoking parents, would have a more optimistic view. ANd someone who thinks weed is bad, and has never smoked it, would naturally be more inclined to say it's so not gonna happen. I feel in some ways like there's no way to know.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:06 (ten years ago) link

i suspect in my lifetime we will see the states where it's been cleared for medical purposes legalize it wholesale; everywhere else will be in sort of limbo between where we are now and full legalization

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:15 (ten years ago) link

It seems to me that once it's become fully legalized in a few states, it'll be de facto legal everywhere. They can't exactly set up state border patrols to make sure you aren't buying in NJ and driving it up to NY, or whatever.

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:17 (ten years ago) link

still pretty illegal in lots of europe, despite amsterdam

iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:25 (ten years ago) link

Europe's different

As far as I know, Prohibition was repealed everywhere all at once, but an interesting comparison might be individual state tax laws on vices. Technically, afaik, it's illegal to buy alcohol in NJ and then drive it into PA, but this obviously happens all the time, whenever someone in Cherry Hill picks up a bottle of wine and then drives to his friend's place in Philadelphia, and it's de facto legal. How can you enforce that kind of law?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:35 (ten years ago) link

wrt CA as an avowed pessimist the fact that they gathered the signatures still feels like found money, bottom line is i think the radius of 'public consciousness raising' for legalization hasn't extended nearly as far as the medical angle, which tbh still relies on compassion for the very very sick to get over (medical cannabis is not going away but it's still plenty begrudged among the majority of counties and municipalities). i mean i hope that's an antiguated view of how politics move in 2010 but yeah, prop 8. think we can just wipe away the culture of prohibition w/o at least will n' gracing it for a minute, it just can't be that easy, right?

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:39 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i guess i would liken it blue laws around here. like, you would probably never ever be able to just pop by dispensary/ package store in the state of Tennessee and buy a nice bottle of wine and some white widow for your dinner party. but if you were pulled over and had an oz cops would just be like eh, whatever - as long as you aren't smokin & drivin (someone will obviously need to build some kind of breath-alizer for weed if it's ever to be legalized i'm guessing)

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:42 (ten years ago) link

"Consumers are expected to spend $420 million at Illinois dispensaries this year, Brightfield Group predicts."

Well played, Brightfield Group

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:01 (one year ago) link

does any one have a clue why the shares of mary jane shares are not stopping to plunge? the canadian etf has lost more than 60% in the last year or so.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 3 January 2020 20:37 (one year ago) link

It's a good question. I've heard things have been pretty poorly run up in Canada, but yeah, they've been down pretty much across the board. One theory is that investors have often been working outside the purview of advisors, who I suspect have been pretty hands-off, given its gray area status. So what's been pushing and pulling the market has perhaps been day traders and amateurs, parties that thrive on instability. Let's see how it goes this year.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 January 2020 20:57 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I was just reading a local editorial countering a claim in a different paper that as early as last October the smell of pot was everywhere. This new column insisted its author hadn't encountered the smell *anywhere* since legalization, which makes me question his sense of smell, because yeah, it's everywhere. On the highway (har), in museums, driving around the suburbs, walking around the city. Granted, it doesn't take much, but it is a bit of a nuisance. I came to the conclusion some weeks ago that after legalization 90% of Chicago would smell like either pot or fast food, and, well ... that's about right. I suppose in any densely populated area it's impossible to expect every person to be considerate. I just tell my kids to get used to it.

In the meantime, the sleepy alley entrance by the local dispensary has never been busier. Buncha dudes bundled together for the elements, streaming into the streets. It's like Goose Island's Black Friday every day. I'm curious if it's just a weekend and holiday thing. For sure for now it's mostly a morning thing, since currently to try and counter supply issues recreational sales have supposedly been limited to a few hours, to guarantee medical card holders an adequate supply. Though honestly I have no idea how or if that is working out.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:01 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

LA County DA To Dismiss Nearly 66K Marijuana Convictions

sleeve, Friday, 14 February 2020 06:20 (eleven months ago) link

seven months pass...

rec on the ballot here in Jersey but have not seen anything either for or against as far as ads. I doubt that a lot of people even know it's up for vote, doesn't help that it's on the back of the ballot.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:28 (three months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Itwkvag.png

oh here they come and from a police department page of course

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:03 (three months ago) link

significant health risks like the condition doctors refer to as "couch lock"

frogbs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:06 (three months ago) link

"consuming most of the snacks you bought for the week in a single day"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:11 (three months ago) link

actually wouldn't more potent weed actually reduce the health risk? smoke less to get just as high, less carcinogens in your lungs

frogbs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:13 (three months ago) link

1. Reasonable point, which is why people shouldn't drive high
2. So by legalizing weed, there will be... more weed?
3. This is a problem?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:29 (three months ago) link

actually wouldn't more potent weed actually reduce the health risk? smoke less to get just as high, less carcinogens in your lungs

― frogbs, Thursday, October 8, 2020 2:13 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol, you can't take less than one hit and still get high. Shit really is insanely powerful now, but I'm not really complaining.

Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Thursday, 8 October 2020 21:23 (three months ago) link

Hash heids

here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 October 2020 01:44 (three months ago) link

Friend swears that the legal hemp flower being sold now (less than whatever percent of THC, 15-20% CBD) is like microdosing just enough THC to feel pleasant effects if you smoke a couple of bowls.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 9 October 2020 01:50 (three months ago) link

But apparently it tastes like shit.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 9 October 2020 01:51 (three months ago) link

I want to know which of the million CBD shops in my area has the secret THC stash for customers in the know

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 9 October 2020 01:56 (three months ago) link

Let me congratulate the state legislature for making Vermont the 11th state in the country to legalize marijuana and also for expunging past marijuana convictions. Now, it is time for Congress and the federal government to end the war on drugs and legalize marijuana nationwide.

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) October 9, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 9 October 2020 18:40 (three months ago) link

i thought it was already legal there tbh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 9 October 2020 18:40 (three months ago) link

yeah when i heard the news i was like uhhh it's vermont for god's sake

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 9 October 2020 19:02 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

New Zealand just voted against legalising cannabis by 53.1% to 46.1%

nate woolls, Friday, 30 October 2020 01:58 (two months ago) link

how did the re-vote on legalizing alcohol go?

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 October 2020 01:58 (two months ago) link

damn NZ, that's like, literally the first thing i heard about NZ that wasn't cool

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 October 2020 01:59 (two months ago) link

Another referendum held at the same time to legalise euthanasia passed 65.2% yes to 33.8% no

nate woolls, Friday, 30 October 2020 02:08 (two months ago) link

NJ most likely going to pass

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 October 2020 02:09 (two months ago) link

Seeing reports it should pass in all states voting on it this time around.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2020 02:11 (two months ago) link

I held off on renewing my med card here in AZ with the expectation it'll be fully legalized. Didn't make sense to pay $500 for 2 yr card if it won't be needed in January.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 30 October 2020 03:38 (two months ago) link

i’m many years clean and sober and i voted ‘yes’ to legalising cannabis in nz so i don’t see why everyone else couldn’t, i’m surprised and annoyed

estela, Friday, 30 October 2020 03:51 (two months ago) link

estela you have a vote in nz?!?!

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 October 2020 03:56 (two months ago) link

yes, aotearoa/new zealand is my home country

estela, Friday, 30 October 2020 03:58 (two months ago) link

:) that's so cool! i didn't know

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 October 2020 04:01 (two months ago) link

justin3 and i lived in the same house in wellington (but about 20 years apart because i am much older)

estela, Friday, 30 October 2020 04:09 (two months ago) link

haha, i'm always oblivious of these basic details! but that's so cool. and it's impossible for me to imagine what that was like, then, but it warms my heart.

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 October 2020 04:19 (two months ago) link

"that's so cool" twice in 20 minutes, lol. this is basically my default opinion when new zealand and cannabis politics collide

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 October 2020 04:20 (two months ago) link

...er, except for the vote tonight, sorry.

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 October 2020 04:20 (two months ago) link

<3

estela, Friday, 30 October 2020 04:21 (two months ago) link

I drove an hour on rural freeway between two cities in michigan and it gave me flashbacks of college when I would be terrified of getting pulled over with weed in the, but this time there were at least six giant billboards offering MICHIGAN'S FINEST CANNABIS NEXT EXIT and it still feels so surreal to me.

joygoat, Friday, 30 October 2020 13:47 (two months ago) link

Ha totally, I still doubtletake on those here in MA

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:51 (two months ago) link

Friend of mine produced this box of weed and weed-adjacent... items. Gummies, vape canisters or whatever they're called, actual weed etc. It was pretty hysterical after all the things we went through back in the day to buy earth bud. He took the day off work and went to Ann Arbor. (we live in Cleveland)

a certain derecho (brownie), Friday, 30 October 2020 22:06 (two months ago) link

NJ passed rec

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 06:11 (two months ago) link

AZ too yesssss

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 06:13 (two months ago) link

dominoes falling

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 06:17 (two months ago) link

Yeah I was going to ask, what’s the count of states here? Like, how many are left to finally legalize things across the board?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 06:21 (two months ago) link

Answering my own question:

2020 elections: 5 states pass legal marijuana measures, potentially growing industry by $9 billion https://t.co/52RYatHUXS by @alexiskweed pic.twitter.com/ICOcripUz0

— Yahoo Finance (@YahooFinance) November 4, 2020



Honestly wonder how long Idaho, Kansas and Nebraska will hold out.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 14:07 (two months ago) link

Seems like drugs did really well on the ballot last night, maybe they should run for president.

— Keri Blakinger (@keribla) November 4, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 14:07 (two months ago) link

xp when I lived on the wa/id border half the plates in the parking lot of the weed stores would have idaho plates, and the kansas people I know regularly travel over the border to colorado. I have no idea if they'll keep it illegal to prove some moral point or just give up after constantly losing money to other states.

joygoat, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 14:46 (two months ago) link

I live in Wisconsin and there’s a Spongebob meme I wanna post right now but I’m too fucking tired

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 14:50 (two months ago) link

come on NY, get with the times

calstars, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 16:16 (two months ago) link

Here in MN a really fun dynamic has emerged where there are two distinct pot-legalization parties that have achieved “major party” status, and their vote-siphoning presence on the ballot is the only thing preventing Democrats from gaining the state senate and actually legalizing it. Good job dudes!

Dan I., Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:34 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

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