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Just read a great article about race + marijuana arrests in New York by Mark Jacobson: http://nymag.com/news/features/58995/

I don't think there's another thread like this -- a place to discuss the current movements to legalize marijuana (medicinally or otherwise) throughout the United States (and anywhere else that interests people), and any other legal/political/racial issues involved.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cary Tennis' last column on Salon is called "How I Became a Pothead": http://www.salon.com/life/drugs/index.html?story=/mwt/col/tenn/2010/06/03/marijuana

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Some other more recent stories:

Marie Myung-Ok Lee's "Why I Give My 9-Year-Old Pot" Series from Slate:
http://www.slate.com/id/2251174/

Marijuana inspiring Cuisine in NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/dining/19pot.html

Jack Shafer telling NY Times they are ridiculous for writing that piece:
http://www.slate.com/id/2254397/

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

not sure i want to read "why i gave my 9-year-old pot" but.. hm..
intriguingly, my mom's position on weed has flipped--she used to bother me about 'becoming a druggie' and now she is all 'oh, i think pot should be legalized.' maybe she's been lighting up?

ian, Sunday, 6 June 2010 18:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

living in massachusetts i can openly smoke pot at my gay wedding, but good luck to the rest of you.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://johngushue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/19/bob_dylan_greenwich_village.jpg

Come gather round people wherever you roam...

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

I cannot help but conclude, after a lifetime of observation, that the present power regime in the USA will never consent to legalize drugs, even if it results in more rational regulation of these activities, a massively lowering of the costs of incarceration (both social as well as monetary), and a cutting off of the funding for huge criminal organizations.

There's just too much money at stake in continuing the drug war now. The cops are mostly in favor of it, because it gives them more power and money, and they get to look like they are saving society from a scourge, while they are just engaging in a lot of fruitless, showy, theatrical idiocy. The prison industry is all for it. And politicians love it, because hating on druggies is the opposite side of the coin from loving mom and apple pie.

Against such stupidity even the gods contend in vain.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really? Cause the winds seem to be heavily blowing towards legalization.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just became medically legalized in NJ, NY is currently looking to medically legalize it.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Those winds of legalization will die away to a whisper in the South. If the Feds maintain prohibition, then the states will not be able to enact the kind of reform and regulation that will do a proper job of it.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm okay with that. I think that if it becomes legal (or de facto legal) in enough of the country, eventually that'll push things over federally too. You just need to build some momentum, and I see momentum all over the place.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

If we could just strangle enough RRW Republicans, then maybe...

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

... but moral scruples forbid me to discuss this line of thought.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

― harbl, Sunday, June 6, 2010 3:14 PM (41 minutes ago)

idk, i agree totally about pot and think that all drug possessions should be decriminalized, but i wouldn't extend that 'freedom' to other illicit drugs or prescription medications obv

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

neither would i!

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha yeah i basically figured that's what you meant, i'm in lolcollege so i've had one too many conversations w/ ppl who are like yeah pot should be legal! fuck it all drugs should be legal!

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

penalties in ca may be reclassified (no longer misdemeanor)

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/cannabis-chronicles/marijuana-possession-less-than/

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw, but the fact that it's a question is amazing even given the state of bud politics here.

vast majority of la dispensaries needing to ROLL with the punches meanwhile
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_15235255?source=rss

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

they're pushing to get full legalization on the ballot in oregon this fall

what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Sunday, 6 June 2010 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

― Mordy, Sunday, June 6, 2010 12:37 PM (4 hours ago)

I've done this, though if it's kept to politics rather than personal habits, I don't know how necessary it was.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hope it's not just a lolcollege idea to want to see see all drugs legalized. obviously we're not talking crack being freely available to schoolkids from the corner shop here; there would besome kind of sliding scale of control, e.g. cannabis as free as tobacco, e/speed/coke over the counter at the pharmacy, heroin perhaps only on prescription for registered addicts. i really don't see the benefit in having any substance completely criminalised. it does not effectively discourage use; it turns ordinary people into criminals - at best merely for usage/possession, at worst for having to commit crime in order to maintain a supply; it enables an enormous criminal trade; it means there is no control over substance purity. if drugs were under government control they would be clean and pure, they could be taxed to help fund treatment for addicts, and there would surely be a huge reduction in drug related crime.

ok maybe things wouldn't be quite that rosy. but it's clear the current system is a complete failure. and in general while i'm far from libertarian i am a strong believer in personal liberty and the idea of the government having such a strong say over what i choose to put into my body is anathema to me.

sent from my neural lace (ledge), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

no i don't think the lolcollege thing refers to what you're talking about, just a certain type of libertarian thinking. i don't believe in drug criminalization either for the same reasons as you said, it has done a lot of very bad things to america in my opinion.

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

Full legalization is a LONG way away. The area of law I practice in, employment, is one of the areas where this is really clear: The California Fair Employment and Housing Act, or FEHA, recognizes the use of some prescription drugs, and mandates that employers, in certain situations, must accommodate the user of those drugs if the use of those drugs somehow limits their ability to do their job.

But it doesn't provide the same protections to medical marijuana. The way in which the Compassionate Care Act of 1996 was drafted, it addresses only the criminal aspects as it pertains to patients. It doesn't address employment aspects, or any of the other ways in which marijuana can impact lives. The CA Supreme Court ruled that employers do not have to accommodate compassionate care users for precisely this reason - the Act doesn't address employment law. Kind of a legal punt, but it drew attention to just how narrowly the Compassionate Care Act is drawn. There was an Oregon decision recently which arrived at the same rationale. Now, if two of the most pot-friendly states in the country have rulings like that on the books, the 9th circuit is not likely to hold another way if a case were to make it that far.

But the decriminalization has been good. And, in reality, no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag. Driving while doing smoking/stoned? Another story, as well it should be.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

I doubt we'll ever see pot legalized, though it would be so convenient if it was. OK, maybe not "ever," but I really seriously doubt it'll happen in the next 20-40 years, or so long as we have Mormons in the U.S.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rev otm, and if you're in the "wrong" neighborhood, you'd be surprised how small an infraction you can end up in handcuffs for

the mom most likely to comprehend juggalos (J0hn D.), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

― donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, June 7, 2010 10:02 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

I used to work at a diner where for dishwashers we hired convicts who were trying to get back on their feet, and they were mostly black guys that had been in jail for years and years after being busted in this way. Legalization is in a large part a civil rights cause.

Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 June 2010 16:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw

why do you think this...? I haven't seen any authoritative polling to-date.

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 16:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/31/local/la-me-0601-poll-20100529

i just have a feeling. people don't pay attention to propositions, even this one, until the ads start ratcheting up and the opposition has a lot of boogeymen to unleash, not to mention opposing the measure more forcefully in the coming months is low-hanging fruit for both of the likely gub nominees. from what i've seen, trying to put myself in the shoes of the 'average voter' the pro argument as articulated feels kind of ad-hoc but that could change too.

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Besides the Office of National Drug Control Policy, who funds opposition advertising? Someone said the cigarette companies spend a lot on opposition advertising, but I couldn't find any data to support that. Anyone here know?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

cigarette companies are all broke I thought

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I would not be surprised if it were religious people (cough cough Mormons). If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

are tobacco companies even allowed to spend campaign money? so many lawsuits/civil suits have crippled the industry

xp

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

I can see this happening. at the same time, most of the country does not love Mormons, much less being told what to do by Mormons.

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

like what is the percentage that thinks Mormons aren't "really" Christians...? it's pretty high iirc

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, sure, but it worked w/Prop 8, right?

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

And it's not like they would advertise, "WE, the MORMONS, want you to never smoke pot! And also we don't really have multiple wives. Brought to you by THE MORMONS."

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sponsored by the Mormons For Curtailing Your Fun Committee for America (c)

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

At any rate, this topic of converrsation ("will pot be legalized") always kind of feels like a mass funtime of projections of the speakers' pasts & desires. I, por ejemplo, would love for pot to be legalized, but grew up in a community where smoking weed was tantamount (in perceived riskiness & evilness) to smoking meth. This informs my perspective. I imagine someone who grew up in a less conservative area, or had pot-smoking parents, would have a more optimistic view. ANd someone who thinks weed is bad, and has never smoked it, would naturally be more inclined to say it's so not gonna happen. I feel in some ways like there's no way to know.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

i suspect in my lifetime we will see the states where it's been cleared for medical purposes legalize it wholesale; everywhere else will be in sort of limbo between where we are now and full legalization

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

It seems to me that once it's become fully legalized in a few states, it'll be de facto legal everywhere. They can't exactly set up state border patrols to make sure you aren't buying in NJ and driving it up to NY, or whatever.

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

still pretty illegal in lots of europe, despite amsterdam

iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Europe's different

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

As far as I know, Prohibition was repealed everywhere all at once, but an interesting comparison might be individual state tax laws on vices. Technically, afaik, it's illegal to buy alcohol in NJ and then drive it into PA, but this obviously happens all the time, whenever someone in Cherry Hill picks up a bottle of wine and then drives to his friend's place in Philadelphia, and it's de facto legal. How can you enforce that kind of law?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

wrt CA as an avowed pessimist the fact that they gathered the signatures still feels like found money, bottom line is i think the radius of 'public consciousness raising' for legalization hasn't extended nearly as far as the medical angle, which tbh still relies on compassion for the very very sick to get over (medical cannabis is not going away but it's still plenty begrudged among the majority of counties and municipalities). i mean i hope that's an antiguated view of how politics move in 2010 but yeah, prop 8. think we can just wipe away the culture of prohibition w/o at least will n' gracing it for a minute, it just can't be that easy, right?

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, i guess i would liken it blue laws around here. like, you would probably never ever be able to just pop by dispensary/ package store in the state of Tennessee and buy a nice bottle of wine and some white widow for your dinner party. but if you were pulled over and had an oz cops would just be like eh, whatever - as long as you aren't smokin & drivin (someone will obviously need to build some kind of breath-alizer for weed if it's ever to be legalized i'm guessing)

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

it is weird though, it's kind of become a bipartisan issue, there could be sufficient pushback

marcos, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's so hopeless. 2/3 of Republicans wouldn't even vote for the Rohrabacher-Barr budget amendment to protect medical weed from the DEA

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

Sessions reassures senators: No pot crackdown imminent
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/jeff-sessions-marijuana-crackdown-senators-react-235616

no shit - you're about to be out of a job

Mordy, Friday, 3 March 2017 03:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

He he, so high

niels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:44 (six months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78FfdBX-U3M

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:58 (six months ago) Permalink

Vegas would be a terrible place to get too high.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 17:41 (six months ago) Permalink

Mouse study caveats and general skepticism about the way medicinal weed gets treated as a cure-all (or 'medicinal' at all), but as someone with a family history of Alzheimer's this is interesting: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-05/uob-cra050817.php

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 01:13 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this guy's obsessive irrational hatred of a plant is really fucking strange.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:50 (five months ago) Permalink

i can't tell if he wants more people in prison or just hates a plant or something else
it's bizarre

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:08 (five months ago) Permalink

why not both?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:11 (five months ago) Permalink

these days anything is possible
here's another q -- i realize that noting incongruities in position is sort of out the window as far as this administration is concerned, but do they or don't they care about states' rights?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:22 (five months ago) Permalink

they care about the red states rights to outlaw abortion and sell more guns .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:25 (five months ago) Permalink

clearly

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:31 (five months ago) Permalink

sessions going after MM providers seems very stupid politically

marcos, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:56 (five months ago) Permalink

MM is popular

marcos, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:56 (five months ago) Permalink

Not sure that he'd even get much support from republicans for this

Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:58 (five months ago) Permalink

The Rohrabacher Amendment barely passed the two sessions where it has with ~90% of Republicans voting against. The White House might be able to lean on enough of them to make it happen.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:14 (five months ago) Permalink

warning, not a very political post...

my condition (crohn's) is on the list of MM qualifying diseases in NYC and I have kind of run out of conventional medicine options that don't have awful side effects, so I scheduled an appt with an MM registered doc for yesterday but then I cancelled it -- her fee for the initial evaluation/qualification appointment is 350 dollars and I know the cost of that first appointment is generally pretty high but I think can find someone more in the 150 range who's reputable.

Honestly I also can't really afford the monthly cost of $X hundreds that will ensue, but I hope I can figure it out (bright ideas: stop having a phone! Cancel my cable!). It's tempting to just go the illegal route tbh

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:19 (five months ago) Permalink

in NYC it is possible to get delivery service with legit strains and concentrates so it's an option if you can find it.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:25 (five months ago) Permalink

jon not jon, have u been on this thread? https://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=77&threadid=104056

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:27 (five months ago) Permalink

why is it increasingly the solution to so many problems is "move to CAnada"

http://www.newsweek.com/canada-marijuana-laws-legalization-justin-trudeau-581971

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:35 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

assholes

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 June 2017 20:29 (four months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

toke up, Massachusetts

Gov. Charlie Baker today signed a bill that reshapes the state’s marijuana legalization law, kick-starting an 11-month sprint until pot shops can legally open statewide — during which officials will have to build an entire bureaucracy from the ground up.

Flanked by lawmakers key to crafting the legislation, Baker signed into law several changes to the ballot measure voters passed last November, including hiking the tax rate on sales from 12 percent to 20 percent. The state’s top leaders will now have to make several decisions, and quickly....

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_politics/2017/07/gov_charlie_baker_signs_revamped_marijuana_legalization_bill

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2017 18:34 (three months ago) Permalink

ty cory

the late great, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:17 (three months ago) Permalink

Booker running in 2020 confirmed

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 22:40 (three months ago) Permalink

I love love love how all these states are proving the Fed approach wrong

calstars, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 22:50 (three months ago) Permalink

in the funny predicament of actually sort of dreading the legalization of cannabis in canada because it might mean i have to pay more/disrupt my supplier in some way. it's also pretty much decriminalized where i live and i smoke in public every day.

love to be solipsistic

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 16:24 (three months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

"I think there are a lot of really right-wing old, white people out there who don't really know what's going on still. But once the kids grow up and get a chance to get into the voting booth, I think we'll see a change like we have in the few states that have legalized it. That could be a long way off, but in the meantime I don't think anybody's ever had any problems buying weed if they wanted it—whether it was legal or not—so it's a problem that one day may be solved, but right now it's not solved at all. Actually, a lot of people throw it on stage, so it's not that hard for me to get. [Laughs]

"I think there's a lot of things out there to be concerned about. So yeah, I'm concerned about it. And I'm hoping that more and more Americans will get concerned about it, because anytime you get even the hint that some foreign country might have anything to do with controlling our elections, well, that's very disturbing to me, and I think it should be to every American out there. But when I get out on the stage I don't bring in the politics. I don't care if you're a Baptist, a Methodist, a Muslim, or what the hell you are, as long as you like our music and you come to hear us, you won't hear me say anything bad about anybody. But if you ask me my personal opinion, well, I'll tell you what I think."

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a13058287/willie-nelson-2017-interview/

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I don't think anybody's ever had any problems buying weed if they wanted it

Oh man, Willie's definitely never been a nerdy 16-year-old in the deep woods of northern Minnesota

Dan I., Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

uh yea

there many reasons why i think cannabis should legal, but let's be real one of the main ones is so i can just go down to the corner dispensary to buy it whenever i want

marcos, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah it's so weird going to a legal states and walking into a store and then coming back NJ and texting my connect a day ahead of time to coordinate some BS transaction.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

so many weed stores in my town now

I'm waiting for the market contraction, but it seems inexhaustible.

the one across the street from us has died down a bit, but they are still very busy. I hear that they have moved to reusable glass packaging instead of plastic, which is nice.

$100 ounces on special.

sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

damn that's what i pay for a quarter here in dumb ohio

marcos, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

NJ might have a real chance at legalization come the new year

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/11/hold_murphys_victory_is_the_first_step_toward_a_ma.html

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:00 (one week ago) Permalink

I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and for a repeat of the Just Say No era but maybe we've actually gotten past that.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Well, it's finally gone and happened. Quebec has finally gone and fucked us. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-marijuana-legislation-breakdown-faq-2017-1.4404947

2017: I live in a society where cannabis is effectively legal and has been that way for a long time. No spoilers, but the cannabis community in Canada is enormous, organized, and dedicated. I have absolute freedom to support whichever growers and distributors I choose, and I am also able to consider overall customer experience as a part of the product I am receiving.

Mid-2017: Ontario liberal government stacks "think of the children" legislation on their pot bill: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/marijuana-sales-ontario-school-bus-cameras-safety-law-1.4403405

2018: Quebec police stop'n'search everyone everywhere based on new "driving high" laws, despite not understanding that effects of cannabis are harder to legislate than alcohol. Aggressive "roadside cannabis testing" targets marginalized communities in St-Henri, the east end, and Montréal-Nord. Stop and search also finds guns and other drugs because it constitutes a warrantless search. Quebec government's cannabis shops are only located in affluent areas, not open after 7pm (when people normally smoke cannabis) or after 5pm on Sundays. Quebec's cannabis distribution centres vont être fermés durant la période de la fête nationale... So on national holidays nobody will be able to buy any weed because the employees of the shops will have the day off to smoke weed. No one can grow cannabis. People suspected of growing are raided aggressively. Anyone with 151 grams of cannabis is imprisoned for life.

The war on drugs goes on. The liberal government used legalization as a tool to come to power and have ended up fucking us all by giving more power to provincial police forces and bureaucrats.

That's some fucking federalism right there

fields of salmon, Friday, 17 November 2017 03:18 (two days ago) Permalink

Everyone smokes weed here, everyone. I'm so fucking insulted.

fields of salmon, Friday, 17 November 2017 03:41 (two days ago) Permalink

sorry to hear that man :-/

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 17 November 2017 03:48 (two days ago) Permalink


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