this is where we talk about nate silver's 'most livable neighborhood in nyc' ranking

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http://nymag.com/realestate/neighborhoods/2010/65374/

w/ this poll, I dunno, vote on your own criteria?

silver's list was 60 so I got rid of all of staten island + roosevelt island and merged soho/nolita/little italy, sheepshead bay/brighton beach and co-op city w/ city island. if we could have polls w/ more than 50 options I would split up carroll gardens/gowanus, astoria, UES, williamsburg, maybe bed stuy and added forest hills/rego park, elmhurst, ridgewood, windsor terrace and prospect-lefferts gardens. is there a neighborhood in southern brooklyn/eastern queens/the bronx that could really get a vote* beyond those? (*on ilx)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
7. Carroll Gardens/Gowanus 1
18. Ft. Greene/Clinton Hill 1
37. Washington Heights 1
22. Flushing 1
58. Crown Heights 1
3. Sunnyside 1
5. Greenpoint 1
4. Cobble Hill/Boerum Hill 1
32. Corona Park 0
39. Sunset Park 0
38. Riverdale 0
33. Red Hook 0
36. Upper West Side 0
34. Midtown West 0
35. Upper East Side 0
44. Belmont 0
45. Co-op City/City Island/Country Club/Pelham Bay 0
42. Chinatown 0
57. Melrose/Mott Haven/Port Morris 0
56. Bed Stuy 0
55. Ditmas Park/Kensington 0
54. East Harlem 0
51. Bushwick 0
50. Central Harlem 0
49. Parkchester 0
48. Bedford Park 0
46. Manhattanville/Morningside Heights 0
31. Inwood 0
28. Soho/Nolita/Little Italy 0
14. Tribeca 0
13. Woodside 0
12. Bay Ridge 0
11. Astoria 0
10. East Village 0
9. Prospect Heights 0
8. Murray Hill 0
1. Park Slope 0
6. Brooklyn Heights 0
15. Jackson Heights 0
16. Long Island City 0
27. Sheepshead Bay/Brighton Beach 0
26. Chelsea 0
25. Flatiron/Gramercy 0
24. West Village/Meatpacking 0
23. Battery Park City/Financial District 0
21. Central Greenwich Village 0
20. Williamsburg 0
19. DUMBO/Downtown Brooklyn 0
17. Midtown East 0
2. Lower East Side 0


iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

would = woulda

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

have lived in 1, 17, 18 and 20

i question the ranking of #2, frankly

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean it's expensive, debris-strewn, and filled with fucking douchebags at night

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, even worse, w/ the 'livability calculator' (http://nymag.com/realestate/neighborhoods/2010/65355/) it's the #1 neighborhood for "Young, Single, and Cash-Strapped"

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah when I saw that I thought, "LES must be cheaper than I imagined"

and Greenpoint kid-friendlier than I imagined

dmr, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

LES ranking is totally bizarre--i dont understand what figures hes looking at to say that its cheap.

max, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i voted prospect heights btw due to it feeling like one of the few places that has some combination of an interesting nightlife without an overwhelming jerkoff factor

max, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

a lot of individual stats are straight up wtf - for example: jackson heights scores 32nd on food and LIC scores 14th.

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i voted prospect heights btw

<3<3 u rock

dmr, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean technically i live in crown heights i guess??? but i spend 90% of my time in the prosp

max, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

there also should have been some kind of adjacent-neighborhood halo effect taken into account. a friend of mine who used to live in bk heights was like "sure brooklyn heights has mostly shitty bars and restaurants, but all the stuff nearby in cobble hill basically functions as part of the neighborhood"

xpost I live in P Heights proper

dmr, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

where did you move to, max? we should go to Washington Commons or something. I was just there the other day

dmr, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

freddy's r.i.p.

dmr, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

jackson heights scores 32nd on food

yeah that's completely messed up, I've gone to Jax Heights for food and it's an hour-plus away!

dmr, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

im at franklin & bergen! we should do a washington/vanderbilt bar crawl

max, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

to me #3 and #31 are alike in so many ways and the fact that they so far apart makes me think silver's "science" is dubious at best

velko, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I really like inwood and was surprised it didn't do better, but sunnyside really profited from being #1 on the diversity statistic (and the fact that nate really, really low-balled sunnyside rents...)

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

wow I used 'really' 4 times in that sentence

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

also this is splitting hairs cause they're #1 and #2 and basically the same neighborhood....but there's no way sunnyside is more 'diverse' than woodside

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the most relevant fact imo
When I moved to New York from Chicago last April

velko, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

haha idk I've been here even less time than that

(and most native new yorkers that I talk to seem sorta proud of the fact that they never leave their immediate surroundings)

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

not that I'm claiming to be an expert on anything...more that I don't think that your average person who's been here 10 years really would have done a better job

iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I've lived in Crown Heights but voted for Washington Heights cause that's where I live now and repping for my hood!

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yo where's the creative capital at?

velko, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 9 May 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

People sometimes say that Prospect Heights has OK nightlife. I live here, and like it for other reasons, but it doesn't. What do you have in mind? Soda Bar? The Vanderbilt? Washington Commons? er...

paulhw, Monday, 10 May 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

sure! i mean what do you mean by "OK nightlife"? all im looking for is a handful of bars with crowds that dont make me feel like committing suicide

max, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

when i lived in prospect heights, i liked washington commons. do not like franklin park usually. sepia is alright, was down the block from me. don't really like soda, or plan b. sharlene's has a trivia night we've been to a few times.

ian, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

also, brooklyn museum's first saturdays are fun. (believe it or not.)

ian, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah im not a soda fan. franklin park is OK! and now has a good burger place attached. wash commons is good, i like woodwork so far. havent been to vanderbilt.

max, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link

starlite lounge is fun but i guess thats crown heights

max, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean i would 10000000% rather go out in p'spect heights than williamsburg or really anywhere in manhattan

max, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I was forced to take G shuttle bus today; Greenpoint looks livable, but can I afford it? I'd love to pay less rent but I hate hate hate moving.

Also, Sunday Times pimping LIC in real-estate sec today.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 May 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link

also let's drink in P' Heights real soon huh?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 May 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link

trains were awful this weekend. we should do a p-heights fap some weekend soon tho.

max, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i also was fucked by a shuttle bus today! noticed the G was fucked, took the L to the F without checking first & the F was also not running past jay street. took a shuttle bus and was half an hour late to meet a girl for scrabble. d'oh.

ian, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Dozens of trains fucked every weekend.

Bunch of bus stops in my nabe have notices of end-of-June service cuts - no overnight B67!

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 May 2010 01:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"meet a girl for scrabble"

mookieproof, Monday, 10 May 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

easily decoded

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 May 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

avoided the g this weekend, but I love how the service advisories still often refer to forest hills - despite the fact that service past court square is officially 100% cut.

iatee, Monday, 10 May 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

so is nate silver gay or what

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jaymc, Saturday, 13 November 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm going to delete my ilx login while playing a youtube of the smashmouth concert at the end of 'rat race'

there are no remaining questions left to be answered

A B C, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

wow!

iatee, Sunday, 14 November 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

for some reason I would have never guessed this

iatee, Sunday, 14 November 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Oh Natepaws.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 May 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

at first it seems kinda douchey otoh I don't really see the harm in nate silver making a buck however the hell he wants to, it's not like he's joining goldman sachs

iatee, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link

hey he's the mind behind the 7th or 8th most accurate baseball statistical forecasting model.

it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link

still a better deal than the fuckin freakeconomics dude

iatee, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

wonder what the most livable hood is when you make $1k/hr?

buzza, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...
three weeks pass...

His book is really boringly written sadly. Not sure how much of this I'll be able to get through.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 9 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

a statistician? boring? no way!

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 9 December 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

haha I find the fivethirtyeight and his baseball writing pretty good actually. This is just dragging. And anyway this book is about as much real statistics as Malcolm Gladwell's are social psychology or sociology or whatever.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 9 December 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

yes, his baseball stuff was always engaging and readable.

fortunately I don't give a damn about everything he's done since, so never considered picking up this book.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 December 2012 06:50 (eleven years ago) link

alex have you read black swan? has its own problems writing style-wise (massive ego, abuse of footnotes) but boring not one of them

flopson, Sunday, 9 December 2012 07:00 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Silver's doing a live Q&A on Deadspin right now. Love this one...

So you didn't quite fit into the culture at the New York Times. How excited are you to work alongside Colin Cowherd and Rick Reilly?

things are going to get better or worse (WilliamC), Monday, 29 July 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

seven months pass...

site is live - http://fivethirtyeight.com/

balls, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link

... why can't they just have one unified RSS feed

Nhex, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link

The place really looks great compared to how bad grantland looked at launch

polyphonic, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:12 (ten years ago) link

The books in my office — I have about 500 — are arranged by color. It’s quite aesthetically pleasing. It’s not all that convenient, however, when I have to track down a book. I have to remember its color, or I have to scan through every row and column of the shelf. The color-coding system is perhaps a little better as an organizational method than shelving the books at random, but not a lot better. Still, with 500 books, it’s a manageable problem. In the worst case, I might spend a few minutes looking for a book. I’m willing to make that trade in exchange for having a prettier bookshelf.

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/natebookcase.jpeg?w=610

why would you do this

polyphonic, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

It does look kinda cool tbh

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

I hope at the very least it's alphabetized within color, jesus christ

polyphonic, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

If you're doing this for visual effect (and why else would you do it) what possible sense can there be in wrapping around from the end of one shelf to the beginning of the next shelf? See the yellow books in the picture. They are not even visually contiguous.

o. nate, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

I used to arrange my CDs (jewel boxes) like this. It made it surprisingly easy to find them.

Bnad, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-it-costs-to-live-in-broad-city/

this site is so bad

iatee, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:04 (nine years ago) link

i don't think i've looked at it since the week it launched?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

these guys need to put up some election tracking graphs already and make it front and center

pretty sure it would bring in more pageviews than their impression of slate

iatee, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 02:59 (eight years ago) link

five years pass...

this guy, jeez

It's no prob because I'm glad it's getting more visibility but you're kind of stealing this take from me.https://t.co/mqMzD84Onh

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) August 5, 2021

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 August 2021 12:44 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Dumb, but Clara Jeffrey is an idiot as well, and two can play at that game

We are living through a mass trauma event, arguably the most far-reaching in human history, so cut yourself and everybody else some slack.

— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) November 23, 2021

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 6 January 2022 04:30 (two years ago) link

looool

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 January 2022 04:35 (two years ago) link

literally her pinned tweet rn, not like I went digging for it

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 6 January 2022 04:42 (two years ago) link

the worst person you know, etc

mh, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

"suppose you think"

do you think this, Nate?

I swear to god, even if the hypotheticals were good, this style of dropping "just thinking bout things" tweets to drive engagement are a plague. Too heavy to address in a twitter response, too fucking dumb to write a thinkpiece with that as the premise

mh, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

what's the difference between "making people wear masks and vaccinate is literally the holocaust" and what he's doing? oh he's just asking hypothetically, what if a guy thought this

mh, Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link

"during hour 55 of a $20k buy-in poker tourney recently, i found myself reflecting on the suffering of america's children..."

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:36 (two years ago) link

one year passes...
eight months pass...

this guy is turning into a case study

https://i.imgur.com/Ao8F2pn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lxZQnCm.jpg

i mean 'capitalism is perfect because of social darwinism' is an incredible take

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 December 2023 04:17 (five months ago) link

Ah yes, capitalism, which has famously existed for thousands of years

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 December 2023 04:21 (five months ago) link

OK but the bump of this thread has made me go "wha?" At the poll results.

Like, that is... what? An 8-way tie for first place and a 42-way tie for last place? With nothing in between?

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 December 2023 04:35 (five months ago) link

that's the sort of thing that happens when only eight people vote

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 December 2023 04:47 (five months ago) link

I fuckin knew you guys weren't bumping this to talk about nate silver's 'most livable neighborhood in nyc' ranking

frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 04:48 (five months ago) link

as i have resided in carroll gardens for 17 years and not died, i pronounce it 'livable'

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 December 2023 04:52 (five months ago) link

Just thinking about this poll though, by this division of neighborhoods one could reside at, say, the corner of Bergen St. and Court St. and be at the nexus of Carroll Gardens/Gowanus and Cobble Hill/Boerum Hill, meaning you would be at the intersection of two top 10 neighborhoods that are really four neighborhoods and you'd be a major VIP.

Josefa, Thursday, 28 December 2023 15:06 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

THIS IS NOT REAL 😱@NateSilver538

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haha wrecked

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