Oh boy, ILX! That's where I'm a viking!..?

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he also covers "ever see a man say goodbye to a shoe" line in the Hank Scorpio episode and the answer is most satisfying imo

blood, loud screaming and nudity (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:40 (five years ago) link

in the new patreon episode of chapo trap house, former simpsons showrunner bill oakley state that the correct interpretation of this line is 'ralph means that sleep is literally where he becomes a viking'

case closed
He was not yet a showrunner when Lisa the Vegetarian was made, nor did he write, direct, or produce that episode. So case definitely not closed. We already discussed this upthread, and agreed that the only person who could provide the canonical answer is David Cohen, but AFAIK he's never commented on the question.

Tuomas, Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:47 (five years ago) link

fake news

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:58 (five years ago) link

Total Viking hunt

nashwan, Saturday, 23 March 2019 12:04 (five years ago) link

Unfortunately the case will only ever be closed by thinking about it for 5 seconds while having at least a vague conception of how the English language or jokes work

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Saturday, 23 March 2019 12:43 (five years ago) link

he also covers "ever see a man say goodbye to a shoe" line in the Hank Scorpio episode and the answer is most satisfying imo

was it this answer?

It turns out the line was ad-libbed by Dan Castellaneta. BuzzFeed reached out to the voice actor, who responded, “The line was improvised. Albert Brooks always improvised whenever he did the show. That line was a reflexive response to Albert’s improvised line about seeing a man say goodbye to a shoe. I probably thought it was a previous time, but it is funnier if it means he saw it at that moment.”

Number None, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link

Yep.

blood, loud screaming and nudity (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 23 March 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link

it is satisfying, I agree

Number None, Sunday, 24 March 2019 01:53 (five years ago) link

Ha, I missed or forgot that line. It's a good one.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 24 March 2019 02:13 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I was reminded of this thread tonight and I want to state that anyone who voted “ralph means that sleep is an area in which he excels” is either a simpleton or, more likely and more troublingly, an unrepentant scoundrel.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 05:56 (four years ago) link

i try to remember this thread whenever ppl seem (to me) to be going to rather extreme lengths to misunderstand the obvious thrust of simple statements on ilxor.com

it doesnt help but i try, god help me but i do

godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 08:31 (four years ago) link

the root of the problem is that ralph would not know the word or the concept "viking" even literally so both readings are impossible

mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

The problem is that playful subversion of meaning is the soul of linguistic fun but pretending to misunderstand Simpsons jokes isn't that

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link

my problem is better

mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

Perhaps but i am resisting your attempts to delimit Ralph who is apparently functioning at a second grade level

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link

the baby looked at me

mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

In a deleted scene Clancy had taken Ralph to see Erik The Viking but upon realising Ralph was too young for its PG-13 rating they instead saw Uncle Buck. To avoid upsetting Ralph, Clancy convinces Ralph that they are actually watching the former and a few years later Ralph still belives Vikings to be feckless deadbeat cigar chompers from Chicago who you shouldn't really let look after your kids.

nashwan, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link

Mrs Hoover has clearly left the students watching The History Channel's 'Vikings' while she is absent from the class

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link

WTF? “ralph means that sleep is an area in which he excels”? Who the fuck thinks this shit?

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 21 June 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link

I have never seen this thread before. You people are insane.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 21 June 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link

i've been an "exceller" since age 13 and i'll be an "exceller" til the day i die

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link

I'm an ex-exceller. Now I think the dream reading is right, but the excel reading was just how it struck my ear when I was really young, and went unchallenged long enough to stick.

jmm, Friday, 21 June 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link

My guess as to how this happens is that, given the preceding dialogue, one might anticipate that Ralph will say something to the effect that sleep is an area in which he excels. So when some people hear the line, they start from this anticipated meaning and apply that to what he says, rather than starting from the words and drawing the literal meaning from them.

jmm, Friday, 21 June 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

y'all are bending my wookiee

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 21 June 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

My guess as to how this happens is that, given the preceding dialogue, one might anticipate that Ralph will say something to the effect that sleep is an area in which he excels. So when some people hear the line, they start from this anticipated meaning and apply that to what he says, rather than starting from the words and drawing the literal meaning from them.

This is partly why the 'dream' interpretation seems much funnier to me: it is more unexpected.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 21 June 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

so is he good at sleep?

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 March 2020 00:59 (four years ago) link

just the most idiotic fuckin debate

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link

should the fact that this was a decade ago and i thought it was last year make me happy or sad

forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 19 March 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link

i miss dayo

rusted (crüt), Thursday, 19 March 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link

yep

thou shalt not covid thy neighbour's wife (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

me too

forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 19 March 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

Not a dayo goes by...

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:32 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

straight from the horse's mouth:

Yes, again, it's the simplest answer - Ralph dreams of being a Viking.

— Josh Weinstein (@Joshstrangehill) December 21, 2020

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Monday, 21 December 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

THANK YOU

DJP, Monday, 21 December 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

So he dreams of being excellent at something huh

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 December 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

lol Dan I'm imagining you slamming the table in victory

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Monday, 21 December 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

ilx, where the author is dead, except for simpsons joke arguments!

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

Now this, this was trolling

imago, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

the author is not dead, he's just asleep, which is where he is a viking

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

I was in the room when it was pitched and laughed because I thought it meant he was great at sleeping

— Mike Scully (@scullymike) December 21, 2020

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

!!!

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

laughed because I thought it meant he was great at sleeping

before taking this at face value remember, we are dealing here with someone who was the class clown.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

Simple: Ralph dreams he's a Viking. Ralph was never written with the ability to understand a complex & obscure metaphor like saying he is a Viking at something, meaning he is great at it. If I knew Scully had misunderstood a joke like that, I would have fired him instantly.

— David Mirkin (@DaveMirkin) December 21, 2020

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link

straight from the horse's mouth:

Wow, ha, I guess that's also now canon! Do you remember who pitched it? Maybe they could say for sure. I think we may have been out of the room writing a script at the time so I have zero authority to weigh in on this, it's just my opinion.

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link

wow settled after all these years

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link

xp you left out where he mentioned mirkin who then posted the tweet i posted just above you

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link

my point was him saying "I was not in the room and my opinion literally means nothing" indicates either that he was not the horse, or that the horsethor is dead

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link

THANK YOU

||||||||, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link

Let's flog it some more anyway

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 08:57 (three years ago) link

did we never get this sorted

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 09:08 (three years ago) link


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