Best Actor in Short Cuts

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Julianne Moore 6
Lily Tomlin 5
Robert Downey Jr. 3
Matthew Modine 2
Fred Ward 2
Huey Lewis 2
Jennifer Jason Leigh 2
Annie Ross 1
Lyle Lovett 1
Lili Taylor 1
Buck Henry 1
Christopher Penn 1
Tim Robbins 1
Madeleine Stowe 1
Jack Lemmon 1
Anne Archer 0
Andie MacDowell 0
Bruce Davison 0
Lori Singer 0
Zane Cassidy 0
Jarrett Lennon 0
Peter Gallagher 0
Frances McDormand 0
Tom Waits 0
Dirk Blocker 0


can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:44 (ten years ago) link

Junk counts, if junk's your thing.

can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:45 (ten years ago) link

The movie's better than the actors.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:46 (ten years ago) link

Voted for Lily Tomlin over Tom Waits though

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:46 (ten years ago) link

Fred Ward vs. Christopher Penn (the wrong Penn died!)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:48 (ten years ago) link

totally don't remember RDJ in this

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:20 (ten years ago) link

tempted to go for Jennifer Jason Leigh or Lily Tomlin tho

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:20 (ten years ago) link

Jack Lemmon, on the other hand, is embarrassing.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:21 (ten years ago) link

Generally or in this movie.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:24 (ten years ago) link

Is the question best actor who was in Short Cuts or the best performance in Short Cuts? Cuz I actually can't remember half of these folks being in the film.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:26 (ten years ago) link

In this movie. I know he's playing an old fraud, but he's done this act soooooo many times, and wardrobe has him decked out like a pedo.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:27 (ten years ago) link

terrible film. Julianne Moore is the best actor here. Fred Ward is the hottest fucker on the list.

jed_, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:30 (ten years ago) link

Junk counts, if junk's your thing.

TS: Julianne Moore's junk vs. Huey Lewis's junk

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:49 (ten years ago) link

I was having a really hard time remembering who Fred Ward played in Short Cuts until I realized that I was thinking of Fred Willard. I would've liked to have seen that Short Cuts.

Pretty low in my Altman esteem, overall, sadly. Lyle Lovett left the biggest (non-nudity related) impression on me.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:51 (ten years ago) link

Julianne Moore's real muff beats Huey Lewis' fake wang

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Thursday, 25 February 2010 04:56 (ten years ago) link

^ scene thankfully left on cutting room floor

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Thursday, 25 February 2010 04:57 (ten years ago) link

o_0 at Short Cuts ain't so great revisionism.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 04:59 (ten years ago) link

Pretty much the best movie in his entire career outside of the '70s imo.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 04:59 (ten years ago) link

his career outside of the 70s not all that great tho

velko, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:01 (ten years ago) link

Not the best, but I gotta give Andie McDowell props for actually delivering her first half-decent performance.

Voted Julianne Moore.

Ceci n'est pas une display name (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 25 February 2010 07:44 (ten years ago) link

pret a porter>>>>>>>>>>>>health>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>short cuts

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:22 (ten years ago) link

no revisionism from me - i hated it the fist time i saw it, although it's been so long i'm not really sure i could tell you why.

jed_, Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:32 (ten years ago) link

pret a porter>>>>>>>>>>>>health>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>short cuts

lol you crazy

this is definitely one of his best post-70s (did everybody forget the Player and Gosford Park too?)

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:33 (ten years ago) link

Pret a Porter is straight garbage, almost nonsensical

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:33 (ten years ago) link

Not a huge fan of Gosford, and should probably re-watch Player. Still, anyone who thinks this is ungood is straight garbage, almost nonsensical.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:47 (ten years ago) link

I haven't seen this since it came out, but in my mind it hasn't aged well. I should probably rewatch though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:50 (ten years ago) link

post 70s I gotta say I also have a total soft spot for Popeye (or at least the first 2/3rds of it)

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:52 (ten years ago) link

i wish i had seen this before meeting annie ross. i thought she was a washed up old jazz singer in a bad way, not in a good way. :/

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:56 (ten years ago) link

pret a porter is funny and mad and incoherent and VERY misanthropic, a film that eats itself before yr v. eyes, whereas short cuts is total literary heritage masterclass bs w/ bad acting and music - its predictable, writes itself

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:07 (ten years ago) link

so you're saying both suck?

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:14 (ten years ago) link

Still, anyone who thinks this is ungood is straight garbage, almost nonsensical.

Dude, I wouldn't say it's ungood, but I'm a huuuuuge Altman stan and it just isn't one of my favorites of his. I would rate his last two way above Short Cuts. It feels sprawling and unwieldy in a non-Altman way, as if Altman was trying to remember how he used to make big ensemble pictures work (which he probably was), and I think Carver's stuff is just too cynical and bleak for my tastes. It isn't bad, but I just don't rate it very highly.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:17 (ten years ago) link

bs w/ bad acting and music - its predictable, writes itself

this is pret-a-porter too wtf. its definitely not funny

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:18 (ten years ago) link

I would rate his last two way above Short Cuts

PHC was allright but ... the Company? really?

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:18 (ten years ago) link

wd add Vincent & Theo to later-goods

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Carver isn't cynical; it's Altman's concept that makes them cynical. By linking their bleak moments together the movie feels tiresome.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Good to great late-period:

Vincent and Theo
The Player
The Gingerbread Man
Gosford Park

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

guys this movie is not all unremitting bleakness I think yr forgetting some stuff

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:20 (ten years ago) link

Never wrote that!

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:20 (ten years ago) link

PHC was allright but ... the Company? really?

Yes, really. The Company might fall right outside of my top ten Altmans.

Also, did not say that Short Cuts was unremitting bleakness (reading comprehension, peoples). It was just bleak enough to lose my favor a bit. I mean, like, Lily Tomlin and Tom Waits are the only remotely happy people in the whole film, from what I recall. Not that everything has to be puppies and rainbows, but it's just a little much for me.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:25 (ten years ago) link

I think if anything makes this film tiresome its its length/breadth and not necessarily the material/recurring themes

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link

wasn't trying to put any words in anyone's mouth, sorry

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link

Directors can impose bleakness (for many of them it's indistinguishable from depth) as often as Hollywood hacks impose happy endings.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:27 (ten years ago) link

I'm not a big Altman fan, but I love this movie, probably more because I love Raymond Carver and there are lots of entertaining performances. Tim Robbins gets my vote because he is well casted playing a total dick.

Moodles, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:29 (ten years ago) link

so when does Obama get to say "shut the fuck up"?

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:31 (ten years ago) link

^^^^unrealized altman film project

velko, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:33 (ten years ago) link

I thought he seemed familiar...

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:33 (ten years ago) link

FRED MOTHERFUCKING WARD

yakko warner (cankles), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:25 (ten years ago) link

Hell, The Company is pretty snugly within my top 10 Altmans. It's just no Short Cuts, et al.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:33 (ten years ago) link

It's a 24-way tie for first. Andie MacDowell places 25th.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:35 (ten years ago) link

could someone explain to me what they like about the Company, cuz that one almost put me to sleep. guess it would've helped if I had even the tiniest interest in ballet, but that shouldn't be a prerequisite for enjoying a movie.

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:41 (ten years ago) link

Well it might be for enjoying a movie about ballet.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:44 (ten years ago) link

eh I've enjoyed plenty of other movies that center on topics I don't otherwise give a shit about (boxing, the Doors, baseball, Christmas, etc.)

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:48 (ten years ago) link

Yeah but ballet is generally more boring than all those things. Except the Doors.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:50 (ten years ago) link

Nope, liking ballet is sort of a given with that movie. Or liking a movie creating an inhabitable environment (i.e. summer squall during outdoor Chicago concert).

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:54 (ten years ago) link

y no Alex Trebek in this poll

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:06 (ten years ago) link

could someone explain to me what they like about the Company, cuz that one almost put me to sleep. guess it would've helped if I had even the tiniest interest in ballet, but that shouldn't be a prerequisite for enjoying a movie.

I don't really have much interest in ballet myself. I don't have anything against it, but it's not something that I actively engage with at all, generally. I just found The Company really beautiful. I mean, pretty much any interest I have in ballet was sparked by this movie (and from watching the dancers at the Joffrey practice from the windows of the Borders across the street). And I also have a thing for movies that focus on behind-the-scenes aspects of the creative process, so I enjoyed it a lot on that level, as well.

Anyway, Hoop Dreams is one of my favorite films and I could frankly give a shit about basketball, so...y'know.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:46 (ten years ago) link

How remarkable, that you could like a film about a topic you have some degree of interest in!

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Friday, 26 February 2010 00:37 (ten years ago) link

How remarkable, the lack of reading comprehension on display in this thread!

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 26 February 2010 00:44 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 1 March 2010 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Maybe next will be Best Actor in A Prairie Home Companion.

can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Monday, 1 March 2010 02:34 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 00:01 (ten years ago) link

i liked kansas city

the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Ironing for the win

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:45 (ten years ago) link

Julianne Moore 6
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secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 06:31 (ten years ago) link

pretty sure frances mcdormand got robbed ITT, she even showed boobs.

i guess pubes>>>boobs?

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 06:34 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Rescreened first half of this. Lily Tomlin is FANTASTIC in every scene. Julianne Moore is adequate but I think the votes are from the ILX horndog crew afaict.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:00 (ten years ago) link

is it ok if I give everyone who uses 'rescreened' shit?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:02 (ten years ago) link

i'm paying tribute to YOU!

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:07 (ten years ago) link

;)

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:12 (ten years ago) link

I was about to ask if this was the one where Julianne Moore has the flip-out meltdown and then realized how many different films that could be referring to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uSTXn4H5jY (Stevie D), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:13 (ten years ago) link

nine years pass...

Man, I had to wrack my brain for a sec trying to remember Buck Henry even being in this thing. I guess it's hard to stand out in scenes that feature a dead body and Lil Huey.

Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:22 (eight months ago) link

He has that great bit near the end where the photo hut mixes up his and RDJ's photos.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:26 (eight months ago) link

Ohhhh yeah.

Far from my favorite of the lot but I've been mulling over another run through the Altmanography so perhaps it's time to give it another shot.

Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:32 (eight months ago) link

It's second tier Altman but I can imagine sitting down to watch it if I saw it on the teevee machine

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:33 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, post-Player, my enthusiasm wanes until the home stretch (peaking, naturally, with a little Dr. T action).

Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:40 (eight months ago) link

Gosford Park is good

big chunks of his filmography are virtually unwatchable, but the high points (and there are a bunch of those too) are fantastic

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:44 (eight months ago) link

The last three, imo, were a nice return to form. (Tanner on Tanner has its moments but it pales in comparison to its predecessor.)

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:47 (eight months ago) link

The Company is terrible, but then I agree w Orson Welles that ballet is the worst artform

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:50 (eight months ago) link

i am shedding second tiers over Alfred's opinion

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:52 (eight months ago) link

Jack Lemmon's always getting tier-y eyed.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:52 (eight months ago) link

a lot of the bits don't signify on their own, but I coulda watched three hours of Tom Waits and Lily Tomlin.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:55 (eight months ago) link

xposts Or, otoh, The Company is pretty close to Altman's post-'70s best. Is what I think you meant to say.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:55 (eight months ago) link

a dead body and Lil Huey.

rubber Huey

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:25 (eight months ago) link

Baby Huey

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:01 (eight months ago) link

Surprised I didn't vote in this, but maybe I couldn't settle on one person, there are so many really good performances.

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:36 (eight months ago) link


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