The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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And so it begins...

I'm presenting them a little slowly, which will give folks more time to talk about each film, I don't want to rush past one film to get to the next one.

Are you ready?

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

yes

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/morvern.jpg

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

oh yuck. really?

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

britishes ruined another poll

bnw, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

I saw this movie alone on my second to last night in London last year in NOvember when it was freezing cold after all my friends had flown back to the states and I was stuck there knowing no-body for the next day. I didn't know anything about it but I kept seeing the ads around and was obsessed with them. It was the most heartbreaking film I'd ever seen, I was almost numb when I walked out of there parts of it were so beautiful.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday)

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

glad i could start this off w/the appropriate "gah you are all idiots" vibe btw

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

omar you are a king thx for doing this

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

also only on ilx would people complain about the movie that came in LAST PLACE

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

o what horror awaits us in the 99th position

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Love this reveal idea, though it won't work on my phone. That's OK, some results were meant to be seen on the big monitor.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

thinking there are maybe a few other movies that came in laster place dude, like #101-948

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh enough already.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

lol j/k

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

it's such a sadness that you think you've seen a poll on your fucking telephone, get real

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

^ suggest new thread title BTW

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/pianoteacher.jpg

I don't think the film-maker was trying to shock for shock's sake. (But then, how can you tell?)

I thought the dark aspects of the film were introduced very well - there was a great 'rhythm' to the film that the it plays with internally. I also love the bit when she goes out onto the ice and the way the shot is framed makes it look like she's falling into nothingness. It's an obvious thing to say but visually it reminded me of 'White'.

― Will

I thought that the Piano Teacher was one of the most moving and honest films I've ever seen abt loneliness - Isabelle Huppert's face all by itself 'said' so much about the fear of rejection, the terror of being alone, that terrible need to speak abt yourself and yet not wanting to reveal anything, the way that love and hatred and envy and desire can literally make you mad. Is it too obvious to say that the S/M stuff is part an overall metaphor of ENSLAVEMENT - to talent, to one's family, to the art life, or the bourgeois life, to our lovers, our needs, our daily lives.

― Andrew L (Andrew L)

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

What don't you like about Morvern Callar, jjjusten?

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

(might have to take the font up a size or two...)

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

#100: Good, liked her first one a bit better. (As on my list of 100 ballot, I limited myself to one per filmmaker unless I felt very strongly otherwise.)

#99: OK, bye

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

lol i di'in even vote for morvern callar. but i did vote it #1 of 2002 in my EOY for london's once-great time out magazine. heady days.

btw fuck haneke.

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

The list format looks great, omar.

maciej recognizing trill, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

kudos to omar for beautifully designed results thread btw.

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

I never saw this, but I remember all my IDM-netpals getting very excited about the soundtrack when it came out.

dog latin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

poll will prolly be lousy with haneke so let's get it all out now guyz

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

haaaa i voted for morvern <3 u indie british chix

Lamp, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost i meant morvern callar

dog latin, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

also omar font size is perfect (would actually go smaller!)

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

lol i can't tell on this firefox here, it looks pretty small

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

even Haneke fan tabes agrees w/ me that TPT is lousy. As I've said, John Waters shoulda done it.

Lynne Ramsay will have a 9-year drought before her next feature comes out, poor gal.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

excited. only posted my ballot last night.

do you want to be happier? (whatever), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

ehh, it was just such a maudlin empty exercise in telegraphed boohoo mopeyness, and the main character is so utterly unsympathetic and boring and stupid. also, a movie where nothing happens, which is fine if it is entertaining on the way, but this isn't. xpost to jaymc

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

hate 2 namedrop but my ex's ex had a bit-part in morvern callar.

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

I guess most of the non-English lang films are going to feature genital slashing

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

one can only hope

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

if only!

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/dogville3-1.jpg

I love this movie even more from the distance of 9 months than I did at the time. A great movie. I was glad the VV film poll accorded it some respect, since it was so conspicuously absent from most mainstream media best-of lists. I even like that so many people hate it, and that it severely unnerved and repulsed my gory-video-game-playing little brother.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra)

I think I mostly agree with Adam on this thread, having just seen the film. There was a lot that I liked about the film -- the performances especially, and the staging/lighting. I even like the idea of the film as parable -- but crucially more for its formal elements (narration, fairy-tale-ish classical score, division of chapters) than anything else. I enjoyed watching it (to a point), but if I dwell too much on the allegorical elements, it starts to bother me. Allegories rarely sit well with me, anyway.

I thought it was interesting, in light of what happens immediately thereafter, that Paul Bettany's final monologue is basically the voice of von Trier -- or maybe von Trier mocking himself? -- "Didn't you find this illustration edifying?"

― jaymc (jaymc)

Best film of the year for me, along with 'Howl's Moving Castle'.

― Momus (Momus)

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

booooooo

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

Piano Teacher had great things in it but by the end I was really annoyed. Callar pretty great. Wish Ramsey could have done the Lovely Bones.

Dogville placing so low is a victory imo.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

two in a row like lye being shoveled into my eyes -- but I thought they'd be higher! yes, xp

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

loving the way this is turning out. hoping for an ilx cinephile stroke-out before no. 75.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

ewwww

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

are you listing # of first place votes when they have any?

caek, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

i believe you're thinking of a different sort of stroke-out, doctor.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

Funny that I was quoted there, since I don't remember much about the movie and didn't vote for it.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

thanks omar for running the numbers! (and taking the time to cook up these natty images)

caek, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

The list format looks great, omar.

― maciej recognizing trill, Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:00 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kudos to omar for beautifully designed results thread btw.

― the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:01 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah bro

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

shg, there's more than one kind?

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

own dogville, have never watched it. video stores going belly up do wonders for the "might as well buy this i'll probably watch it some day" collection

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

hah just occurred to me tho that you should also put the title and stats in text for those who have images turned off and also for the inevitable eventual disappearance of the images from the internet

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

lol

i am prepared to take a loss in characterisation for interesting visuals and general mood/ambience etc

but then i liked mary antoinette

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:40 (nine years ago) link

that was a better movie!

But yeah, all the characters are pretty much cutouts and the absence of actual connection between the actors is substituted with repetition to make you "get" the themes

mh, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:56 (nine years ago) link

All of which I would have been much more forgiving towards if it had been 80 minutes or so. The length was punishing and for every fantastic visual there'd be some dialogue that came along and ruined it. Like a Michael Bay film.

encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:58 (nine years ago) link

I liked Marie Antoinette! And I think it had a lot more interesting characters.

encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:58 (nine years ago) link

things I liked about the film:
- general premise, the exploration of dying through this particular character
- most of the visuals
- the first person nature
- some of the speculative narrative bits, including remembrances in different contexts

things I disliked:
- overused flyover ambiance that I thought would play better when I saw a HD version but still looked fuzzy and indistinct
- flat characters
- overstylizing in supposedly unstyled scenes. understylizing in scenes that were supposed to be highly stylized
- repetition of themes as DO YOU SEE-style revelations. if he said to his sister one more time that he'd never leave her, or if that truck ran into a car one more time...
- crazy sex, death, and birth themes just to make a point that this movie is about ~life~

mh, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:03 (nine years ago) link

Meh. I was told the credit sequence and wasn't really impressed by THOSE...

I don't have time to make it thru the whole thread right now; did Mysterious Skin make it?

lone tripster syndrome (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:38 (nine years ago) link

No, unless I scrolled past it in the screencaps thread.

encarta it (Gukbe), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:59 (nine years ago) link

It's a shame. Damn shame.

I still liked this list though.

Xxp LOL my above post was supposed to read "...the credit sequnce was the best part and wasn't really etc etc"

lone tripster syndrome (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 03:37 (nine years ago) link

Hype Williams would disagree with you there.

encarta it (Gukbe), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 03:38 (nine years ago) link

never understood when ppl say they dont like a film as the characters were unlikeable. that doesnt mean its a bad film! everyone in the last fast and furious was more worthy of contempt than this lot. and in a mainstream film i expect them, in fact i think they SHOULD be likeable, in a film like enter the void, its a bit more permissable for them to be morally questionable

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, November 1, 2011 3:29 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

whoa, dont drag fast five into this. those were some cool lovable bros and broettes

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 04:12 (nine years ago) link

i know no one likes the cinema vs dvd argument (or do they?) but ETV really is a film i think that works so much better in the cinema than at home. i cant imagine watching it at home actually and dont want to in case it spoils my memory of it. and the length is a bit much, but its part of the appeal for me, making it purposely difficult/annoying.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 08:34 (nine years ago) link

worst film of the 00s is miranda julys me you and everyone we know.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:36 (nine years ago) link

too bad Midnight in Paris couldn't qualify for worst.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:37 (nine years ago) link

i like MIP

its bad woody allen, but even bad woody allen is still woody allen so...

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:39 (nine years ago) link

Bad Woody is unwatchable!

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:39 (nine years ago) link

you ppl need to see some actual BAD fucking movies

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:41 (nine years ago) link

even uninspired, autopilot woody allen isnt actually that bad. plus owen wilson is actually the perfect actor for his films. they should def work together more.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:44 (nine years ago) link

you ppl need to see some actual BAD fucking movies

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius),

I watch almost as many as you do, old man.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:45 (nine years ago) link

i wonder what al thinks of midnight in paris

max, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:51 (nine years ago) link

This, to my knowledge, is the worst film of the 2000s:

http://slantmagazine.com/film/review/tony-n-tinas-wedding/3256

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:54 (nine years ago) link

lol They made that into a movie? With Joey McIntyre? HA!

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:56 (nine years ago) link

ahahaha

Upon its release, Slant Magazine gave the film ("no stars"), calling it a "relentlessly unfunny detonation" of the play, and a "tin-eared disaster" featuring "profanity delivered at a Mamet-like rate."[9]

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:07 (nine years ago) link

Despite the eventual appearance of fire, the fatal car accident from Robert Altman's A Wedding is regrettably not expanded into a 20-car pileup here.

Much less amusing than any wedding, bris, or autopsy you've ever attended

couldnt have been that bad, if you had this much fun panning it

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:10 (nine years ago) link

Yes, I had all the fun after.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:16 (nine years ago) link

loool Morbs OTM

lone tripster syndrome (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:46 (nine years ago) link

Skipping 7042 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

^ kind of afraid to click on this

the boy with the gorn at his side (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:07 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

after the shattering, unprecedented success of two previous polls i ran (this one and Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread) i was thinking (maybe) of running a 2011-2015 poll, maybe in a couple of months when folks have had a chance to catch up on tail-end 2015 films. and also for the dust to settle and the survivors to recover from the ILM 2015 tracks and albums poll.

also, i would demand the return of s1ocki, cankles, & eric h to at least submit a ballot.

only if there's enough interest from potential voters.

nomar, Monday, 11 January 2016 06:49 (five years ago) link

I'll vote in that.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:07 (five years ago) link

i think you mean 2010-2015

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:25 (five years ago) link

I vote to wait four years

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:25 (five years ago) link

But then how could we compare the ever-changing tastes of both ILX and Popular Opinion in 5 years' time?

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:52 (five years ago) link

I think you mean 2010-2019.

Reckless Recluse (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:55 (five years ago) link

I'll vote

WilliamC, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:57 (five years ago) link

2100-2910

johnny crunch, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:58 (five years ago) link

Morbs pleading with us all to do this here last week:

best films of 2010-2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 January 2016 16:02 (five years ago) link

Certainly vote.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 January 2016 16:05 (five years ago) link

Uh, that is a tough list to make! I'll begin the mandatory hype of Tsai Ming-liang right away, though.

Frederik B, Monday, 11 January 2016 16:14 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

bump

Hey, if anyone else is on Letterboxd, I compiled this best-of list into a top 100 on the Letterboxd site... I've seen 47 of these and I still need to see many others. By the way, feel free to add/follow/friend me on Letterboxd if that's your thing.

https://boxd.it/2bIZ4

ilxor, Saturday, 17 November 2018 06:48 (two years ago) link

only one more year to go til the 2010s poll, start compiling those lists now. Morbs, I'm looking at you. Alfred, I know you're on it. Eric, looking forward to yours. s1ocki, come back.

omar little, Saturday, 17 November 2018 21:41 (two years ago) link

Still shocked In the Mood for Love missed the top 10.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 November 2018 00:19 (two years ago) link

up to 87/100

i have come to hate lists

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 November 2018 01:04 (two years ago) link

Hey, if anyone else is on Letterboxd, I compiled this best-of list into a top 100 on the Letterboxd site... I've seen 47 of these and I still need to see many others. By the way, feel free to add/follow/friend me on Letterboxd if that's your thing.

https://boxd.it/2bIZ4

― ilxor, Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:48 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I "liked" that list and all the other countdowns, cheers! I refrained from voting (or posting) in any of these as I felt I hadn't seen enough movies, so letterboxd is a good way to track what I need to catch up on. My % viewed increases steadily by decade, from just 8% of the 40s list to 77/100 in this one.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Monday, 19 November 2018 21:05 (two years ago) link

the only disappointing thing about this poll so far was omar's decision to not use a helicopter shot of nighttime miami for the 'miami vice' blurb -- i think the screen cap he used is actually from 'austin powers' >:(

― vincent gallogina (J0rdan S.), Monday, February 8, 2010 11:05 AM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i liked my action films poll screencap for this film better tbqf.

omar little, Monday, 19 November 2018 22:57 (two years ago) link

Mulholland Drive, Caché, Synecdoche, Tropical Malady and Inland Empire are 5 of my favorites from this list, but right now I think I love In the Mood for Love more than all of them

Dan S, Monday, 19 November 2018 23:46 (two years ago) link

Were the brackets for this 2000-2009? I also thought Russian Ark, The White Ribbon, The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, 35 Shots of Rum, Platform, 4 Months 3 Weeks and 2 Days, Werckmeister Harmonies, Colossal Youth, La Ciénaga and Silent Light from that time period were all incredible. Haven’t seen Yi Yi or Eternal Sunshine in a long while. Never saw Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks

Dan S, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 01:01 (two years ago) link

I see that hardly any of those figured in the ilx list

Dan S, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 01:31 (two years ago) link

love all 3 of the Lucrecia Martel films from the 2000s - La Ciénaga, The Holy Girl, and The Headless Woman

Dan S, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 01:40 (two years ago) link

not the ideal way to watch it but tie xi qu: west of the tracks is on youtube

devvvine, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 09:25 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

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