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although my brother does live in a flat with cob walls so

kinder, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

in my experience you either have to be predisposed to punching and kicking shit or be pretty horrible at emotional regulation to start hitting the architecture

― mh, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:50 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark

completely OTM only i think it's and not or -- i'm not even sure what "predisposed to punching" means but the latter part is true for everyone i have ever personally seen punch a hole in the wall/door, which is >1 person

i have never had any desire to punch a hole in anything although i did accidentally fuck up an entire wall trying to do gymnastics between two plaster walls. my goal was to suspend myself and do a flip but the result was 1 massively fucked up wall and no flip :-/

people who punch things when they can't control their emotions are not the sort of company i keep anymore
i guess.i understand the meme now and i also think its message sucks

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

Quite agree, though I think the first time I read it I misinterpreted it as being about DIY. Like, dads be remodeling; they regard putting up an interior wall as a heroic act of epic proportions.

Having it be about punching/kicking walls is uglier. It's vastly better than punching/kicking people, I guess, but still I think: don't be That Guy. Breathe. Go for a walk.

Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

I guess there is the whole thing too of biological women generally experiencing more regular and extreme physical pain throughout their lives and men voluntarily seeking it out instead of trying to pull back from it (thus also not knowing how to manage it themselves.)

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

i think lots of people get the urge to punch things and this is white men once again trying to own like just basic human behaviour

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

"hahaha cargo shorts! what a white guy thing! and mustaches! don't get me started!"

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

prob good idea to get a white masculinity marketing thread goin

godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

yall the meme is not pro-punching-drywall. it's heaping scorn on a constructed personality type. if there's something ugly about it it's that it reduces and inaccurately racializes a phenomenon of frantic lower-class rage (no doubt suburban men punch walls too but ime they don't buy, or redeem tabs for, nearly as much monster energy merchandise) into something for media twitter to wrinkle its nose at.

i have been embarrassed the last few weeks tho cuz i clipped my knuckles on a low ceiling doing jumping jacks and people have been asking if i'm okay lol

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

they don't buy, or redeem tabs for, nearly as much monster energy merchandise

lest this reference seem totally cryptic here is a primer from new thread resource "mel beta"

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

The symbolic meaning of the choice of thing to break seems p interesting

otm

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ni5pua.gif

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

and to think that all drywall did was "*exist*"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

last time i put a hole in any kind of construction material was about a month ago when the community players were breaking down the contents of an ancient storage shed and i kicked a rotting flat. my foot was fine but i had never seen anything like the waterfall of cockroaches that emerged and kept emerging. it was like temple of doom. some of them were albino.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

Another aspect to it is that it's drywall. Big Bad Dude all bent out of shape about something! So angry! Does he punch wood? Brick? No! He lays into a 3/8" thick sheet of fibrous gypsum and shows it who's BOSS.

You may as well pop balloons because you're so full of rage.

pplains, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

I’m picturing a muscular supervillain doing that in a movie.
Juggernaut.. CRUSH.. Balloon

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

I’m generally a pretty chill white male but I did punch my car door after a series of terrible driving decisions left me stuck in downtown Seattle traffic for what felt like an eternity. My hand did not defeat the door, but I suppose it was self-directed anger anyway so maybe that was the purpose. Anyway it hurt and I felt pretty dumb! Lesson is, never drive.

Eid y’self Fitr (JoeStork), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link

my uncle punched a wall and broke his hand once

much respect to that wall

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

wait white dudes punch walls more than dudes of color

this sounds...wildly speculative

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 6 June 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

I once stayed in a short term rental apartment with a fisthole in the wall above the bed. Landlord's deep apologies, the previous tenant, Gene, left in a rage but had promised to return and patch it up. Imagine my surprise when Gene actually showed up a few days later toting spackle and was a woman.

no really imagine it

PS spackle is saggily inadequate for fistholes. What is the frequent punchers' recommended wall repair method, anyway?

mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link

you gotta buy that mesh or the spackle just crumbles

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 June 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link

i don't understand that drywall post at all

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera),

i'm not sure either, but i originally took it to refer to that kind of deep husky cowboy voice that does the voiceovers for commercials aimed at household chores. there's a certain kind of household appliance commercial style that elevates the task into a kind of manly patriotic duty.

making this up, but it's like "every weekend. you mow the lawn. because you're precise. *string accompaniment begins fading in* and it doesn't matter how long it takes. because it's not about you. it's about doing things right. *other orchestra instruments start joining in* it's about doing things the right _way_. because you care *sweeping timpani crescendo, choral group begins singing aaron copland's arrangement of SImple Gifts* because you're always going to be there. every weekend. until the job is done. john deere. because nothing runs like a deer...e"

so when i saw mildly inconvenienced white guy overreacting to drywall that way, i thought of it as another mundane household task that would be fashioned into a feat of faithful courage by some dumb commercial. not sure that makes sense now, though.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 June 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link

I know it's always annoying when someone does this, but: is this an American thing?

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 6 June 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link

I do <3 you, karl

kinder, Thursday, 6 June 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

Does Europe have drywall?

Is Europe even dry?

pplains, Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

I'm sure dudes of color have hit plenty of walls, but it's mostly seen as a white guy thing since we've got (1.) misplaced and usually wrongful aggression, (2.) a certain privilege possessed that it takes to tear up your own property and (3.) it's not a punching bag or a pane of glass, but drywall, I think it's a white guy thing, sorry you all couldn't understand.

Ftr, I've never punched any wall. Saw my dad punch through some drywall once. It was simultaneously the silliest and scariest thing I'd ever witnessed up to that point.

pplains, Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

I've very carefully cut into drywall with a pad saw for switches/socket outlets etc many times in the past. Punching drywall isn't the way to do it.

calzino, Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

when I was a teen, I punched a bunch of holes in my room. when my parents decided to sell the home, they made me patch all of the holes and paint the room. pain in the ass. I wish I could say I never did it again, but years later while learning how to use contact lenses, I got angry and put the heel of my foot through a wall. I think I lost a few hundred dollars off my security deposit from that, so that was the last time. someone above otm about shoddily made modern homes/apartments.

beard papa, Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

My house was built in 1939; walls are plaster and lath and brick, I guess? Some later wood paneling (probably laminate. If I wanted to punch drywall I'd have to go buy some drywall first. Which seems pretty involved. No thanks.

Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

in baseball it’s always very angry pitchers who punch walls and often they break their hand

omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

Does Europe have drywall?

We call it plasterboard in the UK, afaik. Here's Keith showing us how to style it out:

https://i.redd.it/eu7b8mf11ni11.jpg

fetter, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

when i was in the UK electrical installations biz they were called stud walls. I hated them tbh because you often would end up wearing out 3 spade bits drilling holes into wooden joists for the cables to go through and then you'd have plate every bit of wood the cable passes through and the less said about them horrible fast-fix boxes the better. And some people seemed to think this was much easier than chasing out plaster/brick and you'd be expected to finish it twice as fast.

calzino, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

in baseball it’s always very angry pitchers who punch walls and often they break their hand

I remember this happening in the 2004 NLCS, Julian Tavarez gave up a home run to Carlos Beltran and then went to the dugout and tried to beat up a telephone, breaking his hand in the process.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

kinder <3

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

If I wanted to punch drywall I'd have to go buy some drywall first

Bringing this back around to the thread topic, who wants to invest in my theme pub for men that has big sports on TVs and punchable walls replaced daily?

mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

Kevin Brown was a very good example, I remember this happening during his ill-fated 2004 season w/the Yankees:

In 2004, he posted a 10–6 record with a 4.09 ERA, but experienced health problems during the season. Toward the end of the season, he punched a wall in frustration,[7] injuring his hand.

omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link

xp
You might want to wait until the ax-throwing bar craze dies down.

nickn, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

it's sort of amazing how often this happens in baseball, and it's always pitchers

every once in a while there'll be a guy who at least remembered to use his non-pitching hand

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjbavx/dumb-pitchers-punching-shit-and-getting-injured-a-selected-history

doesn't even mention Alex Reyes or Drew Pomeranz

omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

There is a wealth of google search returns for punching a hole in drywall. sigh.

Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/53b2d1cba923ddc669000060/master/w_768,c_limit/415744_pa_leftovers_poster_v5-1.jpg

dudes get equally angry at the burgers being overdone, a bad pitching performance, and the rapture

omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

the silver lining is the low-key color commentary as they show some player demolishing the dugout phone with a bat... "don't think that phone's gonna work anymore" "they're giving him some space"

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/dB7Jt2Y.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 6 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

just want to point out that leftovers poster shows a white man punching a plaster wall, not drywall. ok?

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

FUUUCK. *punches drywall* Somebody beat me to my great idea.

"Break Bar New York City is the cool bar in NYC where you can break stuff, smash stuff, and join our wrecking club!"

FAP?

mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

Fancy A Punch?

nickn, Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link

got an idea for a monthly subscription service of sustainably sourced breakable shit.

omar little, Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

the thrift stores of the usa salute you with their wide array of unwanted breakables

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

The pics at that bar make me itchy.

Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile I saw an ad for ROSES FOR MEN. They aren't like some wimpy-ass tea roses favored by girls and betas. I mean these suckers are the size of baseballs.

Www.roseclubformen.com

Thought it was an SNL parody ad, apparently it is not.

Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

Broses.com was taken?

mick signals, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

once worked with this very damaged + "eccentric" steroid pumping badly aging ex-footie hooligan type who stone-faced reckoned he could chop a breeze block in half with his hand. Never mind punching a fucking bit of egg-box!

calzino, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link


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