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Since some of the people here somehow have managed to get real jobs, does anyone want to give a socially retarded person advice for job interviews? i've got one at university tomorrow. i've had a few this year but i always come across like bumbling moron and it seems that good references and academic records mean nothing if you can't wank on about how you great you think you are. i'm sick of being unemployed.

hamish, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

swear lots.

unknown or illegal user, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ok you needn't go into uber-ego mode, but DON'T DON'T DON'T wank on abt how RUBBISH you are: it's THEIR JOB TO WORK THAT OUT AND THEY ARE BEING PAID FOR IT AND YOU ARE NOT

Think about the job itself and how badly it will be done if the wrong person is appointed for the wrong reasons, and bid to foil those kinds of wrongs. As you know you can: whether it's social or psychological or technical, you have skills which — unless yr interview panel miss em — will NOT INDUCE ENDLESS NIGHTMARE FRUSTRATION AND RESENTMENT among those you work with. Yr rivals — esp. the worst-case-scenario rivals you dream up in yr head, based on idiots and/or monsters you have probably worked with in the past — will deliver exactly this nightmare. So save your new bosses (and more important, underlings, if any) from it. Make the world a (slightly) better place: get this job.

mark s, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

and happy belated birthday

mark s, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

What’s worked for me in the past is to downplay in my own head how important the job is to me. It appears to cut down on the nerves and attendant self-consciousness that can ruin your performance in interview situations. I also try to see the interviewing panel in a more flawed, human light and this helps in diminishing their perceived power somewhat. There are quite a few strategies you probably already know to help do this, most are extremely corny, but they can in fact work. I believe the key is trying to establish a connection with even one member of the panel and if you can do that, everything appears to flow more fluidly and naturally. Best of luck anyway.

Rhia, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Hamish - I'm really good in interviews but I've wondered lately - considering that I've never enjoyed any of my jobs much - whether it wouldn't have been better to be completely honest in the interview and hence not got the job and maybe one day have got a job I liked. ie:
'Do you work well under deadlines?'
'No, I go to pieces, I'll quit if you put too much pressure on me.'
'Why did you leave your last job?'
'I found the boss almost undendurable as a person, because he was brainwashed by the book 'Seven Habits of Highly Effective People,' and besides, I don't really believe in the economic system as it currently exists so it's difficult for me to feel a moral commitment to my job. Especially if it's one like this, where I'm just producing another superfluous product for a bloated economy.'
Try it out!
Interviews suck! I totally agree that they should just go by whether you can actually do the job, not what a fucking great citizen you are.

maryann, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

'Do you work well under deadlines?'

how are you supposed to answer questions as annoying as this one? The obvious answer is to just say "yes" but how the fuck are they supposed to know anything about you from that? What are they trying to find out from questions as pointless as this? somehow i think saying "yes if i don't have deadlines i take three years to do anything" is not going to help either. Thanks for all the advice, i've already started practicing my swearing.

hamish, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i think rhia's advice is good. good luck for the interview.

queenoftheharpies, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

do NOT overcompensate for shyness by laughing too loud. and if the interviewers pause after you finish answering, just be quiet, don't try to fill up the silence with babble. (this is how i think i screwed up horribly at the last interview for a job i didn't get; at the previous one i talked too quietly and my answers were too short, i believe.)

Maria, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I know I've said this before but I was once advised by someone to take up the same posture / body language as the person asking the questions. It worked for me, once. Apparently, smiling at interviewers when you meet them is good also.

Some (but, I think a very few) interviews are conducted with the purpose of the interviewers working out wehether the interviewee can do that job. It's far more common that everyone invited for interview can do the job and the interview process is about working out which of the candidates they reckon they can work with, whose face fits.

Tim, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

And don't forget that the person asking the questions may well be as nervous as you! Obviously not if they've been doing them for years, but I've done a few now, and my boss has done tons more, and we still get nervous and jittery beforehand.

Don't talk too much, but try to anticipate questions. There's nothing worse than asking a question, getting a very basic answer, and having to drag more information out of the candidate. And don't talk to fast, as your brain never manages to keep up, as I've found to my cost!

You don't need to go on about how great you are, you need to show that you can think things through, and show how you would respond in certain situations. You wouldn't be there if they didn't think you were capable, you wouldn't be there if you didn't think you were capable, so don't panic, just listen and think things through properly. And don't be afraid of being honest, they can see straight through bullshit.

Good luck!

Vicky, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

hey hamush, how'd it go? did yr new haircut impress them?

queenoftheharpies, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess it went okay but i got the impression they wanted someone with more experience. But hopefully they'll give it to me on the basis of my haircut. thanks for all the advice everyone (and the haircut Di).

hamish, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
I've one in a couple of hours in a my second (and not entirely fluent language). I am extremely nervous. Still there's some good advice to take with me here. I have the tendency to be painfully aware of any shortcomings and try to cover them by offering unwanted explanations, and sounding needlessly defensive. Not a good strategy which I'll try to avoid. Anyway here goes.....

stevo (stevo), Monday, 9 September 2002 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

fingers crossed Stevo, I'm still waiting to hear how mine went, seemed ok, was kept in there for a fair old while (twice as long as expected) and showed them how their test thing wasn't fair as it didn't have the right figures in it. and they gave me a free pen!!

chris (chris), Monday, 9 September 2002 08:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Fascists!

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 September 2002 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link

'Do you work well under deadlines?'

how are you supposed to answer questions as annoying as this one?

Interviews are a blunt instrument. They're notoriously bad at selecting the right candidate for the job. This is why larger companies (who can afford it) use assessment centres where candidates are set tasks as well as being interviewed. Nonetheless, learning to do well in interviews is something you'll have to do if you want a job.

I think what Vicky says above about interviewers being nervous and inexperienced can sometimes be true. Their questions may seem unspecific or cliched. But, regardless of how good an interviewer they are, you have to be ready to give them a reply they'll want to hear. One American president famously used to ask reporters at press conferences "Who here has got questions for my answers ?" I think this kind of pre-emptive strategy can be a good one. Use the questions as an opportunity to say what *you* want to say. Prepare before your interview using the job specification and get some stuff ready that they'll want to hear. If you can come up with a couple of killer phrases that will identify you from the other candidates then that's all good too. Some people are good at thinking on their feet in an interview situation. Other's (like myself) have to do a lot of preparation.


bert, Monday, 9 September 2002 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I second everything that bert says.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 September 2002 09:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Future job interview advice for anyone...if they ask the most evil interview question EVER--"What do you consider your biggest weakness"--reply with "public speaking." The strategy here is that, supposedly, everyone is secretly afraid of public speaking, including your interviewer. So they can't condemn you for it. Any other answer immediately puts you in a no-win situation.

Of course, if they ask this at all, it may be a signal that they're cruel and you wouldn't want to work for them, anyway.

nory (nory), Monday, 9 September 2002 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

'So are there any significant differences between the theoretical approach towards Social Work in the Netherlands and England?'

'In essence no, the Netherlands has a far more developed welfare stated but the theoretical side to the profession is more or less the same."

"Good. Can you then explain the difference between practise and process based social work particularly in relation to the 5 interview model?"

"Errrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmm. (long pause). Not exactly......"

stevo (stevo), Monday, 9 September 2002 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link

+ Chris, ta, hope you hear good news from yours quickly.

stevo (stevo), Monday, 9 September 2002 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"So you want to be a public speaker, eh?"

"Yes. Yes, that's right."

"What do you consider your biggest weakness?"

"Public speaking."

david h (david h), Monday, 9 September 2002 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha! OK, fine, fine, fine...you got me there.

nory (nory), Monday, 9 September 2002 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I think in my interview for my current job (straight from uni), when asked about weaknesses I went on about high standards, and how unhappy I was handing in an inadequate final project, even though I did get a First, etc. That is, I pinpointed something I could use as an answer which isn't a weakness at all, knowing that no one will object to high standards, and knowing that I could mention that I got a First, on the theory that I can't mention this too often in an interview. And the deadlines question came up too - that was okay because I was a magazine and comic editor in the past, so I could talk about my organisational skills and how good I am at getting things done in good time. (Obviously I don't say any of these things here as if they are true, they're what I said to get a job.)(But if my employers have googled to this, it's all completely true.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 9 September 2002 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Y've mentioned it two times in a week round here, tho', haven't ya? (hehe ;)

david h (david h), Monday, 9 September 2002 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

wiv CAP'TAL Fs each time, no less.

david h (david h), Monday, 9 September 2002 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, well I can't mention that I got a First too often. I got a First you know. (This is undermined somewhat if I add that this was from De Montfort University, which is far from the strongest university around academically.) I do realise that there are unlikely to be a lot of people here impressed by this - we have some genuinely brilliant people here, after all. Actually, I feel easier about mentioning it now that I've been here a while, because if I went on about it when I first turned up it would look like (and probably be!) a desperate and feeble attempt to impress, whereas by now people have decided what they think of me, for better or worse, and whether I had a double First from Cambridge or an O level in metalwork will make little or no difference.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 9 September 2002 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

shut up, I was kidding. I'm well impressed.

david h (david h), Monday, 9 September 2002 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha Martin, my weakness is always, "I'm a perfectionist."

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 September 2002 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i used to say that, dan, but i had to stop because i started to feel like a real plonker when i said it. *and* it's not true anyway (mind you, honesty is far from the best policy where interviews are concerned)

rener, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"my failing is that i'm a brilliant brilliant liar and manipulative to a completely unacceptable degree"

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link

my weakness is asking questions about holidays.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I still haven't heard any feedback from mine, but my agency person has thoughtfully gone on holiday.

It seemed to go quite well though

chris (chris), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

My atandard answer to the weakness question is to tell the truth ie that I'm lazy and easily bored. Oddly enough, this has never prevented me from getting a job I was really interested in. Maybe they both seem like such horrendous qualities in a worker that the HR people think I'm joking.

RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my this thread is now urgent and key as your favourite "shite in interviews" person has another interview on the 17th! CRIKEY! A 45 minute interview?! Dear dear me I am starting to get the ph34r now.

*scans through copy of application form she sent off to remember what arse she said she could do*

HAHAHA oh god if anyone has a computer with web editing proper programmes please could I borrow them to re-familiarise myself with them as I said I have used them - YES but can I remember ANYTHING about them hahahaha.

Oh god I'm nervous. I need lunch. WHERE IS ECWM?????

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, 45 minutes is absolutely nowt.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

It's longer than any interview I've had before (and worse paid, actually)!

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

You're getting paid to have interviews?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Should you ask for your travel expenses?

good luck to sarah and chris.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

45 minutes can seem like an eternity when your sat in the waiting room. Fingers crossed Sarah and Chris.

stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Just when I thought I'd lose hope, someone finally responded to my resume! Whoot!

mandee, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

What exactly is a First? Is it like an A or something much more impressive and high-falutin' like it sounds?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link


It's half as good as what David Baddiel's got.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

It's exactly what David Baddiel's got.

RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

!!!!!

I am still panicking!

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Quick! Think of Kate! And Pikachu! And Moomins!

RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link


RT: I know: but interviews used to say he has a Double First, which sounds impressive.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

photocopying certificates shouldn't be allowed to count.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

My biggest failing in interviews is that I have a tendency to over-answer questions. I start babbling, and initially have a point to make, but end up losing it. There's nothing more galling than saying "um, what was I talking about?". So yes, give them the info they want, but don't dig a grave for yourself if you have a predilection to bang on and on.

Also, don't move too far away from the subject. No matter how much they like you, they don't want to hear about irrelevancies or, another failing of mine (in all walks of life), overly personal stuff.

Sigh. Does anyone want to give me a job too?

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

In the UK, your first degree gets a classification. First is the top grade. How it relates to American grading I don't know - it's pretty hard to be sure exactly what it means in this country, except they don't hand out too many. A First at De Montfort is vastly easier to get than at Cambridge (I went to Cambridge Uni years before but dropped out, so I am in a very unusual position of being able to directly compare our #1 uni (possibly) with a fair-to-middling former Polytechnic).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Good interview is like a conversation

waterface, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:19 (six years ago) link

Bad interview is like bad sex with a woman while her father is watching you

waterface, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:19 (six years ago) link

A lot of it is down to the interviewers - I've had lots that just didn't really know what they were doing.
A good one tends to be more like an actual discussion imo.
Having only been on an interviewing panel once, I'd say be enthusiastic. As a kind of serious and reserved person it made me think about how I present myself at interviews.

lol xp

kinder, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:20 (six years ago) link

i've had interviews that ran an hour over time because they were going so well and i STILL didn't get the job

fuckin a

j., Friday, 19 July 2013 19:05 (six years ago) link

The last IRL interview I had lasted over a hour (not including the code test). This was after an initial 30 minute Skype interview.

Didn't get the job either.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 19 July 2013 22:08 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Ugh. Hate these so much. I have had 5 in 2013 without a job to show for it. I am starting to fear that I am a terrible interviewee. Response to feedback request from one I did on Weds:

Dear Sktsh

As I said in my previous email, we had an exceptionally strong field of applicants. As this is a senior position, I was particularly keen to find someone who has managed a team and has operated at senior level. We have a team of very able administrators in place who need an experienced manager to direct and guide them. All the candidates whom I am taking to second interview, are a little bit older than you and have held senior management roles.

Your passion for working with young people to change lives, came over loud and clear, and I do hope you succeed in finding your next role.

Kind regards
Chief Exec

Which, like, thanks - but if that was going to be an insurmountable problem, why waste my time by getting me in at all? And should my age have any sort of bearing on things? (nb I'm 31!)

I guess it's good experience etc but to go through a couple of weeks of pretty intensive prep work, and to take a day's holiday to do it, only to find out you basically weren't really in their thoughts anyway is really fucking exasperating

sktsh, Friday, 6 September 2013 08:54 (six years ago) link

:(

conrad, Friday, 6 September 2013 09:37 (six years ago) link

thought this revive was gonna be about this sun-setting-on-the-silly-season peach http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/sep/05/currys-interviewee-radios-robot-dance

many a slip 'twixt Yow and Yip (DJ Mencap), Friday, 6 September 2013 09:39 (six years ago) link

I dunno, if they were looking for someone with senior management experience then it may have been nothing to do with the quality of your interview. That said, if that were the case it does seem weird that they would waste your time with an interview in the first place.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 September 2013 09:47 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that's the bit I found a bit weird. OTOH she may have thought this was a kinder way of responding than saying "you were crap love" so idk.

sktsh, Friday, 6 September 2013 09:51 (six years ago) link

probably hoping they could find a way to get what they wanted from someone they thought they could pay way less

j., Friday, 6 September 2013 16:56 (six years ago) link

If you were one of the older ones who didn't get it they'd probably have said they wanted a younger person

cardamon, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:39 (six years ago) link

Fuck them. And fuck currys. I'm doing my bit to fuck currys by also posting that link to ilx on another thread

cardamon, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:41 (six years ago) link

All the candidates whom I am taking to second interview, are a little bit older than you and have held senior management roles.

where do you live? in USA it's illegal to deny someone a job because of age except in very limited circumstances.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 7 September 2013 05:40 (six years ago) link

which basically just means you make up another reason not to hire somebody.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 7 September 2013 05:41 (six years ago) link

Yeah, equally so in the UK! In fairness to her I don't think she really meant "you didn't get through because you're not old enough" and her email was nice enough, but it was a pretty clumsy/stupid way of putting it. I can completely understand not getting through (it was a much more senior role than my current one, like several levels up, so I was pleasantly surprised to get an interview in the first place) but I could imagine someone much more entitled/irrational/desperate trying to complain about age discrimination.

Pay thing was weird too - for a job that had director in the title it paid what I'm on but with fewer benefits. And I am not a high-earning fella.

I think maybe she misinterpreted my "do you have any feedback that I can take with me to future interviews elsewhere" as "why didn't you give me the job waaaah". I'm fine with the not being chosen bit, but would have been happy to hear general sort of "you babbled a bit" or whatever advice, if she had any. But maybe there wasn't any, or she felt she couldn't give it because she thought I might take it badly. Anyway, jokes on her because I abhor 'working with young people to change their lives'.

Basically cardamom otm. Fuck 'em.

sktsh, Saturday, 7 September 2013 17:09 (six years ago) link

i've been unemployed for 6+ months now. it is really fucking discouraging.
the only places that have even replied to my applications are a dog walking service and a juice bar.

ian, Saturday, 7 September 2013 17:50 (six years ago) link

Why were they at the airport if the husband wasn't due to return from his tour of duty that day?

cardamon, Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:08 (six years ago) link

Wrong thread shit

cardamon, Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:23 (six years ago) link

ian, it's far more likely to be them than you

cardamon, Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:26 (six years ago) link

if she told you in an email that you weren't hired b/c you weren't old/young enough, regardless of what actually went on you have a lawsuit.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 7 September 2013 23:42 (six years ago) link

(another way of saying that is: if this company knows what is good for them, they should fire the woman who sent you that email.)

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 7 September 2013 23:43 (six years ago) link

When I started going for teaching jobs 20+ years ago, I was hopelessly inept at interviews--so much so that when I finally was hired full-time after seven years of supplying (by basically asking for, and getting, a mercy hiring by the outgoing principal at a school where I supplied regularly), I never tried to switch schools again. Fifteen years later, I'm still there--because I like the school, but also because I never want to go through another job interview for the rest of my life.

Teaching interviews require that you're fully conversant in the acronyms du jour (ADJs, if you will). They change every three or four years, but they never go away.

clemenza, Sunday, 8 September 2013 14:37 (six years ago) link

Job interview at TK Maxx tomorrow. FML. Perhaps a consolation is that if I get the job, I can start a thread about it.

TO BE PLAYED AT MINIMUM VOLUME (snoball), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:19 (six years ago) link

Full/part time? Cover your outgoings?

cardamon, Thursday, 12 September 2013 00:08 (six years ago) link

if she told you in an email that you weren't hired b/c you weren't old/young enough, regardless of what actually went on you have a lawsuit.

To be fair, that wasn't the spirit of what was written though. clearly she meant 'experienced' though she used the word 'older,' e.g. 'these other candidates are a better fit because they are older (and therefore more experienced).'

Poliopolice, Thursday, 12 September 2013 00:32 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hmmm, I just had an interview go really well for a job I don't really want but I really need any job. Hoping I can have a similarly good interview for a job I'd be more down to actually do before I'm called on to take this one. Meh.

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:17 (six years ago) link

I didn't even apply for this. My roommate did and they called him yesterday and he was like "I already took a job but my roomie's here and he's looking for work" and handed off the phone.

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:20 (six years ago) link

I'd say take it up and give it yr best shot because whether or not you like it depends on things that won't be apparent until you've worked there a while

cardamon, Friday, 4 October 2013 21:43 (six years ago) link

Well, it's doing janitorial work for $11/hr late nights with a 27 mile commute, so I can't exactly see myself growing to appreciate it, but I'm fairly desperate and can't afford to pass on work at the moment.

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 22:35 (six years ago) link

I figure if nothing else, I might do it for a couple pay periods and bail when I can pull down something else.

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 22:35 (six years ago) link

yeah, that sounds like a good plan.

JEFF 22 (Matt P), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:50 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

anyone ever withdrawn from an application when they've been offered an interview? just not sure I cba doing all the prep (company research, working up answers to the competency qs etc) and my current job is... fine I guess

||||||||, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:18 (two years ago) link

Loads of times

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Monday, 20 November 2017 19:33 (two years ago) link

did it. kinda regret doing it now. inevitable

||||||||, Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:49 (two years ago) link

said it was bad timing (financial year end) and hadn't had time to properly prepare and didn't want to waste everyone's time. can I say to something along the lines 'if you're still interviewing in dec/jan, let me know. it's the ideal role but was just very unfortunate with the timing'

||||||||, Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:53 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

have heard from several people that the application is about the past, the interview is about the future

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 January 2018 13:51 (two years ago) link

but i live in the now

j., Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:21 (two years ago) link

the application is about the misery your past employment bestowed upon you, the interview is about the horrors which lie ahead

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:22 (two years ago) link

Tend to agree with bizarro.

Application is partially about the future tho - a cover page can make clear how your values align with the company and how you can see yourself fitting in there. Hopefully that's not too literal

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:30 (two years ago) link

make sure your cover letter stands out by using an eye-catching font, like comic sans, in a colour which reflects your personality, like lavender

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:33 (two years ago) link

you can also add visual interest by breaking up the text with clip art of businesspeople doing business things, eg

https://openclipart.org/download/236805/Businessman-Pointing-To-Graph-On-Monitor.svg

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:34 (two years ago) link

All of my application is in the past for sure

i,CloudiOS (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:41 (two years ago) link

the interview should also be about the past, the idea is that you provide specific examples of how you've demonstrated the competencies required for the position

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:09 (two years ago) link

so I 99% completed an application for a post but did not submit it....... & I have been invited for an interview....
-\..o../-

||||||||, Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:36 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

I made it to the third and final stage of a job interview, which is a “chemistry meet” where I’ll meet the five people I’m going to manage and my co-managers.

I’ve done one of these before, as a team member not a candidate, and it was excruciating. I consider myself quite sociable and chatty but I can turn into an overpleasing dingbat when conversation gets awkward.

Any hints/experience? Definitely more nervous about this than the two other interviews...

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 15 November 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link

Breathe
Relax
Less is more

calstars, Thursday, 15 November 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

think of some cool orders to give them, to show them how fun it will be to do your bidding

j., Friday, 16 November 2018 03:29 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I have been jobhunting.

Note: I don't, strictly speaking, need to, because I already have a job. I just want a different one, and there are a bunch out there (for my particular niche type of work). I know this is a ridiculously privileged situation to be in.

That said, it IS a bit surreal - not just because everything is phones and zooms and teams and stuff, but because basically no one knows what tf is happening, so a lot of things are tentative. Thoughts in no particular order:

1. Almost every company has an online application; some are better than others.
- Sometimes you upload your resume and that's pretty much it. A+.
- Sometimes you upload your resume and the tool parses it successfully. B+.
- Sometimes you upload your resume and the tool parses it middlingly well - you still have to go in and correct/edit to correspond with reality. C.
- Sometimes you upload your resume and then you STILL have to manually enter every fricking thing. D-.

2. I have told a LOT of companies about my gender, race/ethnicity, disability status, and veteran-ness. This is fine and I understand why they collect the data but it's pretty repetitive and I find myself wishing for a way to do it all with one button.

3. I have talked to a LOT of initial screener interviewers (generally, recruiters or other HR types). These conversations generally go well. But the second phase (of talking to a person who actually understands the work) is usually slow to materialize. Because people are busy having, y'know, jobs.

4. Every potential calculation of whether/when to say yes is fraught. If I accept the first offer I will forever wonder whether I should have held out longer. If I reject an offer I will forever wonder if I should have taken it.

I bless Bad Brains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 20:27 (five days ago) link

Friend just got a new gig, depends on the industry I guess

calstars, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:02 (five days ago) link


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