What states do you consider to be part of the Midwest?

Werethey talking about athletic.conferences? Because I could undersand some confusion on that point.

that would make sense but apparently this is a girl who also famously said "oh the yankees that's a football team right?"

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/what-states-are-in-the-midwest/

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/hickey-map-midwest-1.png?w=610&h=569

do MN folks consider themselves midwesterners or Great Plainers?

having lived in both KS and IL recently, the places don't share a culture. KS is wild west, IL is calm farmland + urbanity. I think of the strip from ND down into TX as a single unit, the plains, maybe including MO and AR as part of that. Big 12 country, more or less, before things went bonkers.

every time i haved talked to minnesota folks about whether ohio (where i'm from) is part of the midwest they always say "no, that's east coast"

ha really? i would call it midwest for sure, def not east coast

i guess as mn dude i think of us as midwest, def dont think many people here consider themselves great plains

Great Lakes >>>> Great Plains

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Hm well that didn't work.

yeah i am down with the great lakes description for sure

Another map that fucks up upper michigan. Idiots.

Anyway no way Montana is part of the Midwest. I drive between WA and Michigan every summer or so and this map from last week of baseball team affiliation pretty much sums up my interpretation about the divide between the Midwest and Northwest in terms of terrain and general disposition - the Twins area is the Midwest, the Mariners area is Northwest, and central Montana is some sort of netherworld purgatory

http://i.imgur.com/ZmPJ0m0.png

does that map say no one is a fan of the mets

netherworld purgatory

see also Virginia and lol.

No love for the A's either. In no way shape or form is Pennsylvania part of the Midwest.

cubs/brewers/tigers/twins = def midwest

i guess when i think of Midwest what i'm really thinking of is Upper Midwest: eastern bits of the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, maybe Iowa and northern Illinois (really just Chicagoland)

Missouri/Indiana/greater Illinois....that's like a whole other, distinct region to me

and Ohio has always seemed too far east to me to count and yet it seems the most quintessentially midwestern? i never know what to do with Ohio

i do agree with that 538 thing inasmuch as Iowa is The Midwestern State (more so than Illinois imo)

how could anyone be in any doubt that wisconsin is part of the midwest? have they BEEN here?

also who in hell thinks west virginia is the midwest? it was part of virginia, one of the original colonies, for chrissakes.

Southern Illinois is more of a border south area, as is true of southern Indiana. Calling Kentucky a Midwestern state is, as amply pointed out already, insane. Iowa is the very heart of the Midwest.

does that map say no one is a fan of the mets

― j., Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:35 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think there were any districts in which the mets had a larger fanbase than the yankees, no. not even in the neighborhoods surrounding the mets ballpark.

yeah states should be evaluated by how similar they are to Iowa

doncha know

i guess when i think of Midwest what i'm really thinking of is Upper Midwest: eastern bits of the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, maybe Iowa and northern Illinois (really just Chicagoland)

This is pretty much how I see it but only because I grew up in Michigan and basically everyone I know is there, in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and the Chicago area. Iowa, southern Illinois, the Dakotas, Kansas, Nebraska - that's all like great plains or farmland and is of no concern to me. Ohio is a black hole that I know nothing about but a lot of people I know hate it. Missouri is definitely the south.

So basically if you aren't touching Lakes Superior, Michigan, or Huron GTFO.

see "great plains or farmland" pretty much equates to Midwest for me. If you're far from a coast, there's no mountains for hundreds of miles, it gets hot n humid in summer and pretty damn cold in winter, you're in Midwest.

Ohio is the heart of it all.

you've got a friend in non-midwestern pennsylvania

Granny Dainger otm. As someone who grew up in Chicago and took yearly car trips to Omaha, I consider both -- and everything in between -- to be equally midwest.

People have really strong feelings about this.

The US Census Bureau has an official answer to this, right?

(It seems more or less in line with what I thought, although I wasn't sure about KS and MO.)

https://cdn.citylab.com/media/img/citylab/2019/08/midwest_metros_map_hero/940.png

We surveyed more than 12,000 people (and counting) about the most contentious border question in the U.S. to reveal the true geography of America’s midsection.

https://www.citylab.com/life/2019/08/where-is-the-midwest-map-geography-great-lakes-rust-belt/597082

truth

there would be more green parts in nebraska but they don't have computers in that part of nebraska

wanna know what these people in amarillo and memphis and providence are thinking

I grew up in Southern Illinois. I'm a Midwest purest = OH, IN, MI, IN, IL, WI, MN, IA, MO.

If cincinatti is in the midwest, all of kentucky must be in.

nope, too far south

outside the ❤️

back to the core, the heart states. echo and the bunnymen

I feel like once you’re north of the twin cities a ways, Minnesota becomes something else. If you can see a moose, you’re not really in the midwest anymore maybe

eastern Nebraska definitely midwest, once you get past the Omaha/Lincoln corridor it turns into a plains state eventually

^ watch carefully as this deceptively mild-mannered hawkeye attempts to lock down a spurious authority to exclude his bemidjian compatriots from the promised land

i'm not saying it's not part of the midwest, at all, but my understanding of the upper peninsula is that it might actually be part of another world

I would throw Oklahoma into the midwest and maybe North Texas. They both have more in common with that than the south or southwest.

no big 10, no credibility

People, plains states are not the Midwest, they are a whole other thing.

Also, just because some cross border inbredness occurs in areas like Southern Illinois-Southern Indiana-Western Kentucky (or Southern OH/Northern KY) doesn't mean Western Kentucky is the Midwest, anymore than the fact that Eastern Kentucky is Appalachia transforms Indiana into Appalachia by virtue of their shared border.

I feel like a 250 mile radius surrounding the sears tower is the midwest.

Or maybe it is an ellipse with foci at the longitude of chicago and east chicago

*longitudes

thank you for not suggesting a radius around touchdown jesus

I grew up in the upper peninsula and it is definitely the Midwest but also indeed another world; northern Wisconsin and Minnesota are kind of in this realm too but the UP feels much more like Alaska or Canada in a lot of ways due to the isolation from the bulk of the states population. That map seems right to me with “Great Lakes” and “rust belt” and “great plains” being three distinct sub-regions.

The thing about eastern vs western Dakotas feels true to me also - I drove from MI to WA a lot and somewhere in the western third of the state it became “the west”.

Also looking at that made me realize I always think of KS, NE, IL, and IA as the Midwest but never Missouri for some arbitrary reason. I’ve never been to Missouri though.