Raimi says random things:
"What we're trying to do right now is really understand the journey Peter is going to go on this time and have the villain maybe be a counter to that growth, something that he has to overcome," Raimi said. "Or maybe he has to grow in a way to overcome the villain, because there always seem to be stories of coming of age, of a young man growing up and learning things about life, so once we are identifying the exact movement that Peter has to grow to, I think the villain—and we're trying this right now; we're trying to choose a villain based on who would be the proper counter to that growth, so we really have dramatic conflict."
...zzzzzsnoreoh sorry nodded off there.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
They've run out of good villains for this series, I think, which is the kiss-of-death.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
So what he's saying is "there's gonna be another movie, and it will be a spiderman story, but we don't know fuck all about it yet." ?
― ian, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I think mysterio would be the most entertaining villian.. the whole spiderman coming of age thing, uhhh maybe mysterio can kill spiderman.
― hatchet, axe and saw supervisor (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link
teach him about life and death sort of thing
― hatchet, axe and saw supervisor (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
film version of Brand New Day plz.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link
please be kidding
― WmC, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
mysterio, imo, is a cooler spidey villain than doctor octopus.
― ian, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Wouldn't be surprised if they imitate the other recent comic book movies by going darker - so we'd see Carnage then? Sooooo sick of this series.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I never understood why this series received such amazing praise. It's . . . okay. Not especially memorable or noteworthy. Didn't see No. 3; maybe it would have changed my mind.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
well, the first one was great imo. i don't think i've ever seen the third one either, thought the second was a big step down.
― ian, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
The villain in No. 2 was better, but that's about it.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Bruce Campbell should be cast as the enemy for #4I would pay to see that
― hatchet, axe and saw supervisor (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I enjoyed, but didn't really love, the first two. The third one was an embarrassing pile of shit that I would've walked out on if only I hadn't been stupid enough to pay to see it in IMAX.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link
make 4 a tender coming out drama plz
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link
They've run out of good villains for this series - there's always Dr. Morbius
― cervix-a-lot (Pillbox), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Depending on who plays him, a Punisher x-over could be interesting.
― WmC, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Felicia Day as Felicia Hardy
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Thought the first one was great, the second was okay and the third was a hilarious mess:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/ddabee/icons/4vq6id0.gif
― Roz, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link
PETER PARKER OBERST JAZZ HANDS
― Roz, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Bruce Campbell should be cast as the enemy for #4
ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2928/campbellkraven.jpg
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link
The Lizard's an interesting villain. they get bonus points if they bring up how his son never ages.
― abanana, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
is that animated gif processed in any way? because it is a lot more awesome than I remember that movie being.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
omg the blowing hair
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
they've been setting up the lizard for three movies already, for fucks sake make him the villain.
― passive aggressive tea wisdom (latebloomer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link
The first half of the first movie is arguably the best screen realisation of a superhero's origin story yet (other contender: Batman Begins).
― chap, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha Bruce Campbell as Kraven would be pretty great
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmmm, I'm watching spidey3 right now because of free HD movie channels and direct tv; the action sequences are pretty entertaining with all the neato special effects and camera angles. When I first saw this movie I thought it was good for those reasons I just mentioned. Also the "emo factor" didn't bother me. Yes the plot is stupid (his uncle's killer is really _______!) but from a happy dumb action flick point of view I really can't complain. See Wolverine
Anyways, who is supposed to be the lizard? And wow to that Bruce Campbell picture - it's a perfect fit and frankly why not have him play the enemy? He played a fancy French dinner host in #3. It wouldn't be a far strech to cast him as a baddie.
― hatchet, axe and saw supervisor (CaptainLorax), Monday, 19 October 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
first half of part 1 is classic. part 2 is maybe my favorite superhero movie. part 3... well, at least bruce campbell showed up again.
― Nhex, Monday, 19 October 2009 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Part 2 is pretty darn good, especially the scene where he stops the train and the passengers realize spiderman is human.
Part 3 was absolutely abysmal, as bad as Superman Returns. I'm not sure why the studio is taking this shot considering how negatively people responded to the last one. This should be a franchise reload, not another go with an aging actor and a bored director.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 19 October 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure why the studio is taking this shot considering how negatively people responded to the last one.
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman3.htm
http://www.rockersnyc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cryptic_slaughter_-_money_talk-front-www1freecoversnet.jpg
― well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Monday, 19 October 2009 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyways, who is supposed to be the lizard?
His professor, the one who in 3 does some experiments on the Venom goo and yet seems weirdly unexcited to have discovered alien life.
― When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Monday, 19 October 2009 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link
so once we are identifying the exact movement that Peter has to grow to, I think the villain—and we're trying this right now; we're trying to choose a villain based on who would be the proper counter to that growth, so we really have dramatic conflict.
So the villain is gonna be Joe Quesada?
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 October 2009 08:26 (fourteen years ago) link
One Villain Only (?) for 'Spider-Man 4' -- Yes, it's The Lizard
― Alba, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 07:23 (fourteen years ago) link
― well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Monday, October 19, 2009 4:44 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
latebloomer, a 330m gross for a 250m production budget is bad, not good.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 08:24 (fourteen years ago) link
oh wow, nevermind, the worldwide gross was great.
Maybe the next one should be in chinese.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Not making this into Secret Wars is a foolish mistake.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Secret Wars must've already happened, because Spider-Man had the black suite in the previous movie.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link
That is so sweet that you believe big movie studios care about franchise continuity.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Anne Hathaway as Black Cat rumors afoot.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 November 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link
For some reason I've never thought about this before, but Black Cat is a total Catwoman copy, isn't she? Not just the name and the costume, but also her profession and her relationship with Peter... I guess it's kinda obvious, but it hadn't crossed my mind before, maybe because back when I was reading Spider-Man and Black Cat was a regular character in it, I didn't know much about DC.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 19 November 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
the final franco-maguire team-up was a bit cheese at the end but i loved spider-man 3. peter parker's dark side has jazz hands, god for fucking bid.
― da croupier, Thursday, 19 November 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link
The third movie was a pile of shit and I'm still pissed off that I paid real money to see it in IMAX. Did not need to see emo Peter Parker in fucking IMAX. So bad. I hope they don't cast Anne Hathaway, because then I will want to see this one too.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
The only thing that Spiderman 3 really failed at was shoehorning in two villains. It should have either done the Venom story or the Sandman story and not tried to do them both, as Venom felt very much tacked onto the side with chewing gum.
― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 November 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
i agree!
i actually loved that dancing scene.
― fel (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
the weird thing is, i think the venom was the villain that got shoehorned-in against Raimi's wishes, yet i liked that subplot and character so much more than the Sandman "I killed your uncle all along it was me!" unnecessary retcon bs
what also killed me was how the Peter/MJ relationship that I liked so much in the first two just went so sour and was dreadful to watch. just didn't feel like the actors were really trying any more, although the script didn't help (too much awful dancing all around)
― Nhex, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
needed more dancing imo
― fel (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
really just should have been a spiderman dancestravaganza
put them 8 legs to work
― fel (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Psyched that it's the Lizard. But Mysterio would've been better.
― five minutes of iguana time (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vgmd7eMFFw
― methanietanner, Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't remember many good lizard stories tbh, pretty sure the camp isn't gonna help matters. hope he looks cool at least
― no for real leggo (tremendoid), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Well yeah Mysterio would've been incredible for camp. And i still hold out hope for the Vulture as old chickenhawk with his eye on Peter.
― five minutes of iguana time (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.movieline.com/2009/12/exclusive-spider-man-4-circling-john-malkovich-anne-hathaway.php?page=all
"No matter the superhero franchise, when it comes time to make a sequel, people mainly want to know one thing: Which villains will be in it? Currently, fans are trying to crack the mystery of Spider-Man 4’s bad guys; rumors and speculation had it that every actress in Hollywood was trying out for the sexy villainess Black Cat, or that Dylan Baker’s Curt Connors would finally get to transform into the Lizard in this installment. Now, though, Movieline has confirmed with sources close to the film that Raimi’s sequel is circling John Malkovich and Anne Hathaway to play Spider-Man’s adversaries, and neither evildoer is quite what you might have expected.
malkovulture.jpgIf negotiations proceed according to plan, Malkovich will be playing Spider-Man’s nemesis the Vulture, who packs a punch despite his advanced age. The Vulture is able to fly through the air and brandish his sharp wings to attack Spider-Man.
As for Hathaway, that’s where things get tricky.
The 27-year-old actress is currently the top choice for Felicia Hardy, who’d been long-rumored as one of the new characters in this installment. (Other names bandied about for the role included Julia Stiles, Rachel McAdams, and Romola Garai.) However, unlike in the comic books, this Felicia Hardy doesn’t transform into the Black Cat. Instead, Raimi’s Felicia will become a brand-new superpowered figure called the Vulturess.
What does this mean for poor Dylan Baker, who’s patiently played Curt Connors in the last two installments? As much as it would seem that the series is setting up his eventual transformation into supervillain the Lizard, we hear that the suits simply can’t bring themselves to sign off on such an odd-looking enemy — instead, they’d rather hew closer to villains with a human face. Perhaps, then, it’s the best-case scenario for Baker: He gets to remain the subject of fanboy interest, but he doesn’t have to cede his role to a motion-captured reptile in a lab coat.
Developing…"
― Cunga, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/exclusive-spider-man-4-officially-has-no-start-date-as-of-today-because-of-script-problems-sony-unlikely-to-make-5112010-release-date/
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
malkovulture.jpg
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link