Ha ha. I am such a sucker for Amelie but then I used to live around there for awhile.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
really loved Velvet Goldmine. It's kind of a mess and is not historically accurate but is very entertaining to watch. The editing is incredible...I love the way every scene starts out as one thing and ends up as another. And the music was great.
― Dan S, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
omg ameliei saw vampires just drunk enough that i didn't feel like walking out
― alex b. skeaton (tremendoid), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I think its so weird that people expected Velvet Goldmine to be historically accurate. it lays its cards out on the table pretty early that its a FAIRY TALE
― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Velvet Goldmine historically accurate? The point is that it's about the rumors and not the reality. We all believed this stuff in the 70's.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^yep
^^yes. but I remember all of the criticism it got at the time for not portraying the era accurately, which I agree is ridiculous.
there seems to be some revisionist thinking about Forrest Gump. How did it end up at 607 on the 1000-top films list? It was bad the first time and I can't imagine it's going to get any better in retrospect.
― Dan S, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I think my problems with historical accuracy had to do with the chronology of various periods and recording history.
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
you know a movie's great when an actor cuts off his legs just to be in it. that gary sinise guy is amazing! such dedication.
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― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't even know what velvet goldmine was supposed to be referencing at the time, it was pretty entertaining on its merits.
― alex b. skeaton (tremendoid), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
its not a biopic. its a coming-out movie disguised as a musical fable.
― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, it's more entertaining when you're not arguing about whether so-and-so is supposed to be representing Lou Reed, Bowie, Iggy, etc. at a given point in the movie.
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
yes. and right from the first scene you know it's going to be great, with the bullied kid finding Oscar Wilde's brooch, and the camera shooting off to the stars.
― Dan S, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
the only thing i didn't like about VG was the citizen kane thing
― velko, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I love Velvet Goldmine. I'm sure there's a thread. But we should be talking about mainstream hits that really suck.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Of recent movies The Dark Knight really bugged me.
― Dan S, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link
bloated, overly-gothic, 4 or 5 pseudo-endings, and it was all taken so seriously...
500 days of summer. SUCKED.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd have preferred Magnolia if it was only 5 minutes of raining frogs.
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
a bit too wishy washy for a challop but I didn't get all the OMG over Shawshank. It's kind of beyond me why it's a favorite movie of all time kind of movie. Maybe if someone didn't already know the story it'd be more exciting? Dunno.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I still can't figure out why I left the theater after seeing Magnolia feeling good about myself and life in general, and it actually made me mad because I never once thought "okay, wow... I'm seeing a meaningful movie." I haven't watched it since.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link
As far as Stephen King adaptations go, it was better than Apt Pupil. Shawshank I mean
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I think people like it because it's not as shit as what they're used to: the actors do their job and the script assumes that you are sober, can follow the dialogue, and won't resent the lack of car chases. It would still be a half forgotten b-movie if it had been produced before 1980, which I understand is the industry cut-off for cable.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf it's probably one of the better SK adaptations to screen. I like the Shining the most of all of them though, but then that's pushing the definition of 'adaptation' pretty far.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
http://static2.unlike.net/system/photos/0031/9794/wings.jpg
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Self-importance is the only quality in a movie that brings out hatred imo.
Totally agree, and as such my additions to this thread are Pay It Forward and The Notebook.
― franny glass, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i used to be on imdb a lot and it was the top movie on the charts for like 4 years, i just could not wrap my head around it. and it's not even a dislikeable or remarkable enough movie to warrant mounting an attack, it's just a super-weird phenomenon.
― alex b. skeaton (tremendoid), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link
It's because Morgan Freeman is America's cuddly grandpa.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
fyi here is the current imdb top 25:
Rank Rating Title Votes1. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 447,1212. 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 366,5743. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 214,5854. 8.9 Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo. (1966) 134,2035. 8.9 Pulp Fiction (1994) 366,4306. 8.9 Schindler's List (1993) 242,8197. 8.8 12 Angry Men (1957) 97,4488. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 186,5519. 8.8 The Dark Knight (2008) 394,33610. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 248,62411. 8.8 Casablanca (1942) 151,09912. 8.8 Star Wars (1977) 291,47113. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 320,26614. 8.8 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 86,12815. 8.7 Goodfellas (1990) 200,94316. 8.7 Rear Window (1954) 105,02817. 8.7 Cidade de Deus (2002) 142,56418. 8.7 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 220,28619. 8.7 Fight Club (1999) 332,51220. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 347,12721. 8.7 C'era una volta il West (1968) 63,18422. 8.7 The Usual Suspects (1995) 239,44123. 8.7 Psycho (1960) 126,71424. 8.6 The Silence of the Lambs (1991) 216,85025. 8.6 Sunset Blvd. (1950) 47,498
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Shawshank is not a self-important movie. It's quietly competent. But it really isn't that good.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link
The Usual Suspects, ugh. I love twist endings as much as the next person, but if you make a film people can only see once, then you've made a bad film.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Unlike Psycho (just below it on the imdb list), the payoff of the movie is in the suspense, not the twist.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i think shawshawk is pretty all right but weird tonally. it's like a lot of stephen king's work in that way (and in that way it gets it right.) it's this wide-eyed almost innocent-style relating of a tale that's filled with shit like prison rape and murder, and then it all gets tied up in a neat bow at the end with a twist and all of the evil characters paying for their misdeeds with ironic fates.
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
the usual suspects is by far the worst film out of that list imo
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
(by which I mean Psycho wins and The Usual Suspects loses) xxp
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
There are films in that list that I quite like, but not one that I love, and there's more than a couple that I secretly despise.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Impossible choice for me between F.Gump and Watchmen.
― Hugh Manatee (WmC), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Watchmen wasn't _that_ awful.
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought it was OK. But just OK. Nowhere near top 20 great.
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
On the other hand, I've never seem Forrest Gump, but John Waters was unusually vehement on that one, and, based on the people I know who loved, I really don't think it's going to be my kind of thing at all.
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
the subtext of Forrest Gump is that sexually liberated women with liberal politics get AIDS and die.
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
...who we have sex with and get married to.
― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:11 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is a whole genre of movie, the out of control lady movie. i hate it.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
but she redeems herself by marrying the retarded patriot and, of course, having a baby.
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Splitting hairs, I know, but I'd say it's "a subplot" rather than "the subtext" of Forrest Gump. The subtext of the film is: stumbling brainlessly through life will lead to a wondrous existence filled with magic and stars.
― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link
it isn't a subplot, it is a subtext, but not the only one.
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i was alarmed by the pro-jogging undercurrent.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought it was about the rape of our Gulf coast's seabed just to please gluttonous Americans who crave shellfish.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Another vote for Donnie Darko, the worst film ever made.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Mordy, have you seen Southland Tales?
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link