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lol?

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:44 (ten years ago) link

Seems like it could be funny, but man do I dislike Chevy Chase.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:45 (ten years ago) link

just read the review in the nytimes, will give this a go

just sayin, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:18 (ten years ago) link

i work at a community college
not sure how i feel about this

have lots of funny stories, but not sure i want to see them dramatized for prime time larfs

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:29 (ten years ago) link

ugh this

Cousin Larry Soetoro (jeff), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:30 (ten years ago) link

ok i'll be honest. i am quietly hoping this show fails.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:32 (ten years ago) link

i'm a Soup stan so i'll hope for the best but if it's not great then i hope it dies quietly, because of all people McHale doesn't get to contribute to the mountain of useless TV he makes good TV ridiculing

some dude, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:34 (ten years ago) link

OTM

... (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:34 (ten years ago) link

how about this -- he goes back to ridiculing people on tv instead of people in community colleges

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:36 (ten years ago) link

you must go to community college to be a person on TV

(w/ a few exceptions like Chevy Chase, who went to Bard with Steely Dan)

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:43 (ten years ago) link

And Mindy Kaling, who went to Dartmouth with gbx.

jaymc, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:47 (ten years ago) link

But other than those two, that's pretty much it.

jaymc, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:47 (ten years ago) link

fwiw La Lechera i just read an interview where McHale says:

Many reporters are like, “So are you guys going to make fun of community colleges?” It was such a weird, hostile attack approach. Just like in M*A*S*H, they were like, “Are you making fun of the Korean War?” “No.” “Are you making fun of doctors?” “Uh, not really…” Or like Cheers, you’re like, “You making fun of people that go to bars?” So what did they think our show was going to be? So a community college is somewhere that is a huge cross-section of America, and I thought it ironic that you have to have about as diverse a cast in television history if you want to do a show about community college. I’m just amazed that we’re all English speakers.

some dude, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:48 (ten years ago) link

I don't think it's that weird for people to think that, though. Community college is not as widely represented in American pop culture as hospitals and bars are, and when it is, it often does have a mocking or derisive undercurrent to it (cf. Adam Carolla rants). So I totally see why someone would expect that the show would be more of the same.

jaymc, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:52 (ten years ago) link

yeah, true. i mean it'll be interesting to see if he's right and the show doesn't laugh at its setting or they end up making the easy jokes after all.

some dude, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:53 (ten years ago) link

Many reporters are like, “So are you guys going to make fun of community colleges?” It was such a weird, hostile attack approach. Just like in M*A*S*H, they were like, “Are you making fun of the Korean War?” “No.” “Are you making fun of doctors?” “Uh, not really…” Or like Cheers, you’re like, “You making fun of people that go to bars?” So what did they think our show was going to be? So a community college is somewhere that is a huge cross-section of America, and I thought it ironic that you have to have about as diverse a cast in television history if you want to do a show about community college. I’m just amazed that we’re all English speakers.

Uh ...

It's been said that community college is a ‘halfway school’ for losers, a self esteem workshop for newly divorced housewives, and a place where old people go to keep their minds active as they circle the drain of eternity,” reads a network description of the show. “Well, at Greendale Community College ... that's all true.

As a community college student, I'm annoyed.

etaeoe, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:53 (ten years ago) link

yeah yeah i know
i realize he is not out to ridicule earnest students, but he may wind up doing that anyway.

i just...i dunno. i smell yuck.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:55 (ten years ago) link

Uh ...

It's been said that community college is a ‘halfway school’ for losers, a self esteem workshop for newly divorced housewives, and a place where old people go to keep their minds active as they circle the drain of eternity,” reads a network description of the show. “Well, at Greendale Community College ... that's all true.

As a community college student, I'm annoyed.

― etaeoe, Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

those are lines from the trailer, said by a character. i don't think ur meant 2 b "yes, he is right, lol." but nor is it "oh he is awful, that is so wrong."

history mayne, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:57 (ten years ago) link

The pilot is good. It's chiefly about McHale's character being an arse.

William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:57 (ten years ago) link

ok just watched via torrent the pilot and i give it an unambiguous: yes, lol!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:57 (ten years ago) link

the main thrust of the show does not seem to be making fun of community college - and where it does the jokes are not abt the people associated w/the being omg total retards - so dont worry yalls

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:00 (ten years ago) link

I don't think there is anything wrong with poking fun at community colleges - there are a lot of jokes to be made on this subject. if this show becomes popular, if anything, it's just gonna help make ccs seem like a more normal part of american society (which they already are obv, but are non-existent in pop culture.)

iatee, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:02 (ten years ago) link

it's just gonna help make ccs seem like a more normal part of american society (which they already are obv, but are non-existent in pop culture.

I have not seen the show. But from the promotional material I've seen does not reflect the most predominate characteristic of community college students: poverty. Therefore, I believe it would do little for normalizing community colleges.

etaeoe, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:05 (ten years ago) link

im glad weve gone straight tot he hand wringing - enjoy the show!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:08 (ten years ago) link

xp

that seems like a generalization to me. I live in CA and significanttt numbers of middle class students go to our local cc instead of straight to a 4 year school. I took about 10 classes there in hs and there is a v. large variety of people and incomes.

of course, my local CC looked like this:

http://www.starshineroshell.com/images/logos/SBCC_lg.jpg

iatee, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:11 (ten years ago) link

One only needs to look at how "Good Times" normalized the way people view welfare and tenement housing to see how badly "Community" has dropped the ball before it even airs.

so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:12 (ten years ago) link

(and is probably less representative of ccs than the show. but still, main idea, you really can't generalize + it's probably good that they're getting *some* sort of pop culture rep)

xp

iatee, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:13 (ten years ago) link

I spent a summer at a community college getting a few credits out of the way, and I must say that I did not have a favorable impression of the experience. Sorry guys!

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 September 2009 21:25 (ten years ago) link

ownd

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:06 (ten years ago) link

I also went to a community college in CA for the first two years of my degree! Now I work at a community college in OR, and people cry when I tell them I was paying $11 a unit compared to the $81 a unit they're charging here.

gmail im going to murder u at a beach party (reddening), Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:25 (ten years ago) link

two years off cc for the basics seems like not a bad idea - also watching and discussing this show - it is funny

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:32 (ten years ago) link

I trust ice cr?m's taste; going to dl

did u see any 'glee' yet ice cr?m?

cozwn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:34 (ten years ago) link

Glee is 50% good, 50% terrible, sometimes at the same time.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:35 (ten years ago) link

that's what I'm into

cozwn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:36 (ten years ago) link

I'm sort of embarrassed about currently attending a community college, not because I'm attending a community college, but because when people ask me what I'm learning I honestly have to say "not much." If I didn't need something official looking to put on my resume, I could've saved a lot of money just teaching myself at home.

It's for this reason I will not only be NOT offended if this show skewers the community college experience, but I was actively derive joy from it!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:41 (ten years ago) link

was=will (der)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:42 (ten years ago) link

Is it "not learning anything" because the classes are poorly taught, or because they require you to take a bunch of general ed bullshit before you can get to your chosen subject? I have students complain to me all the time about the uselessness of general ed, but ultimately they'd be taking the same classes for way more money at a four-year.

gmail im going to murder u at a beach party (reddening), Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:49 (ten years ago) link

the classes are poorly taught

I'm in the digital media/tv production program, which is basically run by two instructors at different campuses who absolutely hate each other. Whatever one teaches, the other debunks. After all that is through, it's basically playtime when it comes to studio production and editing projects. Basically, they tell you how to turn on the computer and open up Adobe Premiere (which isn't even industry standard software) and then advise the best they know how, which is limited in all respects.

The worst thing is, the college has a completely digital hi-def PBS station right there, and they won't let students anywhere near it. We're using a studio with equipment that's, no lie, from the 1970s.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:55 (ten years ago) link

in my experience (classes at a pretty well funded california cc) there was a large spectrum of teacher quality. but overall, what you get out of a class also sorta depends on the students (teachers often teach to the lowest common denominator + you learn through class discussions / study groups.) and this is where the cc classes I took were significantly worse than the classes at my srs 4 year school. they tended to be worse than my public hs AP classes too.

iatee, Friday, 18 September 2009 00:02 (ten years ago) link

xpost Ugh, that's awful. The students I work with gravitate toward the humanities or medical/nursing programs, which run really well at my CC, but I've heard similar accounts of, like, blind incompetence in certain Computer Science classes.

gmail im going to murder u at a beach party (reddening), Friday, 18 September 2009 00:14 (ten years ago) link

part of the problem (not to get all shop talk on you, but...) is that cc teachers are usually people who have other jobs and teach "for a little extra cash"
adjunct instructors (sometimes up to 75% of the instructors at a CC are adjunct) are often blase because:

they are not teachers by trade
are often not given the training or tools to be effective teachers
are not paid very well for their time/expertise
are often required to do things that are beyond their range of skills, like writing a syllabus*

that said, there are a lot of great teachers out there at CCs (ahem), but there are a lot of craptacular ones too for the aforementioned reasons

*note: this is not always true, but it's true more than more than most students at CCs realize

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 18 September 2009 00:20 (ten years ago) link

Ok I'm watching the show and this bears no resemblance to my life at all aside from the woman who referenced her babysitter.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 18 September 2009 01:40 (ten years ago) link

These people all talk to each other. As iatee referenced above, almost nobody in my classes talks to each other.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 September 2009 01:42 (ten years ago) link

It must be said, John Oliver is the funniest thing in this show.

Mordy, Friday, 18 September 2009 01:46 (ten years ago) link

It must also be said that whatsherface really doesn't look all that much like Elizabeth Shue.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 September 2009 01:50 (ten years ago) link

Where are the nonnative speakers? Sorry but if this is what passes for funny on tv I'm not impressed. My real life is funnier than this. I have a student whose name is Porntip, but she prefers to go by her nickname: Nooky.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 18 September 2009 01:50 (ten years ago) link

Ass-burgers.

Mordy, Friday, 18 September 2009 01:58 (ten years ago) link

Nice touch ending with "Don't You Forget About Me."

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 September 2009 01:59 (ten years ago) link

I give it a B+ (ish).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 September 2009 01:59 (ten years ago) link

I laughed a little at the menengitis joke.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 18 September 2009 02:01 (ten years ago) link

high above me, she’s so lovely

sleight return (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:19 (one week ago) link

yeah. this is so irritating i can't even gather the energy to type out how irritating and bad these throwaway takes on donald glover are because it could go on for paragraphs.

Yerac, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:23 (one week ago) link

plus i am not even a "fan" so yeah... i don't know why I keep opening this.

Yerac, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:25 (one week ago) link

Do ittttt

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:26 (one week ago) link

when this thread began I doubt anyone here could have predicted much of what happened with Glover's career. "He could have been the next Eddie Murphy" is a weird take, since people in the future will be saying "he could be the next Donald Glover."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:30 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I have no problem with the current Donald Glover or his c/v.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:37 (one week ago) link

alls im sayin is that if he didn't have the ambition to become the world-conquering polymath that he is today and he decided to stick to his original milieu, he could've been equally successful. cause he's an outrageously talented comedic actor.

sleight return (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:39 (one week ago) link

It's hard to say what his milieu is, exactly. Writer? Performer? Actor? Musician? Director? The weakest link on his resume seems to be movies. What made him (and really everyone) in Community so great is their gifts as team players. They're all "stars," even if by narrative default they orbit Joel McHale.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:46 (one week ago) link

Def. one of those shows where every character/actor could (and sometimes did) anchor an entire episode.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:47 (one week ago) link

having a successful/critically acclaimed prestige tv show that you created, star in and are the executive producer on, whose production gets delayed because you have to be Lando in a new Star Wars film, while also having a v successful music career (much more than Eddie Murphy ever had for a start) is a strange kind of failure.

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:01 (one week ago) link

ha, he definitely is a world-conquering success.

sleight return (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:04 (one week ago) link

im just a guy who despises the music of childish gambino idly speculating about a world where donald glover stuck to comedy.

sleight return (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:10 (one week ago) link

atlanta is better than community

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:15 (one week ago) link

Maybe, but they're totally (and tonally) different animals.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:02 (one week ago) link

decided to stick to his original milieu, he could've been equally successful. cause he's an outrageously talented comedic actor.

Before he became a sitcom actor on Community, he had already been part of a live sketch comedy group, a UCB improviser, a youtube writer/performer with millions of views, a salaried sitcom writer, a stand-up comedian, and had co-written a theatrically-released movie.

His original milieu, before all of those, was being in New York University's sketch team: it's fair to say that writing a couple of skits a month, which were performed anonymously by an ensemble at one free show monthly, exclusively to college students, would not have made him equally as successful if he'd kept it up for 18 years instead of doing a bunch of other things.

Bleeqwot (sic), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:16 (one week ago) link

he wrote for Kenneth on 30 RK

(said adoringly)

thanks for the explanation, amelia bedelia

sleight return (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:23 (one week ago) link

sic, you ever wonder if you're gonna get bored playing a board game?

sleight return (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:24 (one week ago) link

let's talk about Danny Pudi instead. What's up with that guy?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 21:20 (one week ago) link

he's the voice of huey on ducktales

sleight return (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 21:22 (one week ago) link

He's on that new Apple TV show called "Mythic Quest," playing a morally questionable business dude who wants to add loot boxes to everything.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:08 (one week ago) link

Abed would totally be into loot boxes.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:11 (one week ago) link

Mythic Quest is also a show written by Community writer Megan Ganz, I think

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:13 (one week ago) link

Yeah, she' s in the mix. But she also did "Sunny in Philadelphia," which I think is the more direct link.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:48 (one week ago) link

decided to stick to his original milieu, he could've been equally successful. cause he's an outrageously talented comedic actor.

Before he became a sitcom actor on Community, he had already been part of a live sketch comedy group, a UCB improviser, a youtube writer/performer with millions of views, a salaried sitcom writer, a stand-up comedian, and had co-written a theatrically-released movie.

His original milieu, before all of those, was being in New York University's sketch team: it's fair to say that writing a couple of skits a month, which were performed anonymously by an ensemble at one free show monthly, exclusively to college students, would not have made him equally as successful if he'd kept it up for 18 years instead of doing a bunch of other things.

― Bleeqwot (sic), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:16 PM bookmarkflaglink

boooom

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:50 (one week ago) link

Kevin Hart is the current version of Eddie Murphy in terms of national stature and omnipresence I would say

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:51 (one week ago) link

I don't like Childish Gambino but I've come to respect the obvious will pushing it forward.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:53 (one week ago) link

Who was Eddie Murphy's Rock?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:53 (one week ago) link

Nick Nolte

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:54 (one week ago) link

he wrote for Kenneth on 30 RK

(said adoringly)

― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved),

yah he is IRL from Stone Mountain, Georgia, so wrote loads of gags for / about Kenneth's background

Bleeqwot (sic), Thursday, 21 May 2020 02:45 (six days ago) link

when this thread began I doubt anyone here could have predicted much of what happened with Glover's career. "He could have been the next Eddie Murphy" is a weird take, since people in the future will be saying "he could be the next Donald Glover."

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes)

he could have been the next Jordan Peele

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:10 (six days ago) link

great revive

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:14 (six days ago) link

who knew everyone felt that way about Childish Gambino

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 04:02 (six days ago) link

great table read. like the P&R special, they've pried open my wallet

Nhex, Thursday, 21 May 2020 04:24 (six days ago) link

I look forward to his surprise stand-up special dropping in 2025.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 May 2020 04:55 (six days ago) link

Atlanta is so good he gets a free pass from me on like four more poor Prince impersonation singles.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 May 2020 04:56 (six days ago) link

look the kid’s brilliant, it doesnt really matter if you didnt dig his music

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 04:58 (six days ago) link

he could have been the next Jordan Peele

JP never topped the Pazz and Jop singles poll, every kid's dream

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 May 2020 14:18 (six days ago) link

only managed to tie for #9 in Reissues in 1986

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bigmouth/images/c/c9/Screenshot_47.png

Bleeqwot (sic), Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:24 (six days ago) link

we are rewatching S1 and there’s so many genuinely great moments in the early episodes

i forgot about Abed’s first movie “Six Candles” in episode 3 or 4? amazing

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:33 (six days ago) link

it's funny because you'd never guess the show would get as zany as it did in the first season. it was never a grounded show and the characters and dialogue were sharp from the beginning but it was less set-piecey.

one of my fav eps is still the one where Pierce joins Vaughn's band.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:57 (six days ago) link

We've been watching it from the beginning, me and a daughter, and it has aged really, really well.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:35 (six days ago) link

a friend of mine is watching for the first time and his only word of complaint so far is that it "isn't believable." i've assured him that it only gets more realistic as it moves along.

sleight return (voodoo chili), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:35 (six days ago) link

lol

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:38 (six days ago) link

Ha, I'm glad people are coming around to my pov on s1. I think Abed's movie was as early as ep 2?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:39 (six days ago) link

Arrested Development just doesn’t have realistic family dynamics. 2/10 would not watch again

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:41 (six days ago) link

been watching through S3 occasionally for a few months; gotta hurry up to get to the table-read ep.

Bleeqwot (sic), Friday, 22 May 2020 00:15 (five days ago) link

just watched that podcast episode #5 with surprise guest alison brie, pretty incredible

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 10:34 (yesterday) link

It's wonderful how well they all get along and how funny they are all together. They never even get around to talking about "Community." Or anything, really!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:17 (yesterday) link


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