whatever, he posted in earnest whether or not you liked his posts
― Dan S, Monday, 21 September 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
Not sure what earnestness has to with it, there’s no shortage of deeply sincere troublemakers in the world. Anyway it’s nothing to litigate, it happened.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 21 September 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link
earnestness matters a lot to me, it's why I like ilx
― Dan S, Monday, 21 September 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link
are you Oscar Wilde
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 September 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
i mean it is kinda rude, though, it's like having a friend crying and telling you this person is constantly making your life hell, and responding "really? name 15 exact things she's done and I need it in the next five minutes, or else I will not believe you"
:) I did see the 1952 film recently
― Dan S, Monday, 21 September 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
fred's bans were both ages ago. if you really want to understand why, the only way is to go back and read all the posts about them from that time. nobody else is going to put together a history of it that's much use. certainly the time to litigate it would have been back then --- everything looks better in vague hindsight without all the posts in front of us.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 September 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
Part of the way genocide jokes work is a) it matters who is making them (e.g. few people think it's unacceptable for Jews to joke about the Shoah); b) insofar as genocide is the epitome of human nihilism, it screams 'desacralization', i.e. nothing can ever be sacred again after such an event, including genocide, so we might as well make fun of it for cathartic purposes. The second condition was definitely met here as far as I'm concerned, it's the first that is still up for debate, at least in the context of ILX.
― sock solipsist (pomenitul), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
I have no idea what this in relation to
― seumas milm (gyac), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
Quick derail re: yr post, pom: I just don't agree with the premise that *anyone* can make fun of genocide after its event as elucidated in yr point b, and joking about indigenous genocide if yr a settler is ghastly, afaic. i don't want to assume unperson's ethnic background, but I don't think my stance is one of leftist sanctimony run amok— it's one of not wanting to poke at wounds that are still festering due to the hegemonic political ideology in the US.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
but if that makes me a "PC fag" or a humorless twat or whatever, then so be it.
i'd rather be a humorless fag than taking the piss about genocide. call me crazy.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
Oh nm I’ve caught up, yeah, fuck anyone from the outgroup joking about genocide, like fuck me, how hard is it to not trivialise something that still has impact up to and including the present day?
― seumas milm (gyac), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
xp tbh I think if it’s your own group then gallows humour is not only fine but acceptable, I couldn’t tell you the number of jokes about the famine I’ve made that I would consider deeply awful for idk a British person to make.
― seumas milm (gyac), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
That's fair, table, I'm not trying to exculpate unperson here. He knows exactly what he's doing and the aim was to get a rise out of you, presumably because he finds little value in radical idealism.
3xp
― sock solipsist (pomenitul), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link
Honestly nothing more of a boring edgelord opinion than racist joke -> it’s just a joke > fucking humourless lefties > why can’t you take a joke it’s not like my ancestors killed them or anything
― seumas milm (gyac), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
thanks pom. and gyac, i agree with you, tbh!
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
The thing is, even if you performatively want to piss off another ILXor because you think they're a snowflake or whatever alt-right-adjacent buzzword you can think of, there are other, considerably less fraught ways of doing it.
― sock solipsist (pomenitul), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
If you're already operating from that headspace, your capacity for nuance might be shooting sparks.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
yeah he came into this "joke" from my favorite (most hated) centrist line of thinking that we should just not let people in red states vote bc they're too dumb or something, haha that'll learn 'em
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
give me some Jimmy Smith over this fucking monochrome tinny art-school dross any day of the week!
― calzino, Friday, 25 September 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
wow that's a novel Prince diss
― get a mop and a bucket for this Well Argued Prose (Simon H.), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
i don't want to assume unperson's ethnic background, but
when u know the original post was *fire emoji*
― Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
**For the humorless leftier-than-thous in the room: all of this is jokes.**^^^^ this is such a cop out and basically an admission that you have a really sad and pathetic sense of humor
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
“If you’re offended, first of all you’re not really offended, and also you don’t have a sense of humor”
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
I would just like to apologize by saying: don't be such a snowflake.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
it was a rightier-than-thou post
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
_i don't want to assume unperson's ethnic background, but_when u know the original post was *fire emoji*
― seumas milm (gyac), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
Even though I am personally minorly harmed by the SALT cap, being in a high-tax blue state, there's really not that much justification for eliminating it other than a giveaway to donors tbh.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, September 17, 2020 1:21 PM (one week ago)
Because the SALT cap was politically punitive and legally unfair in terms of the logic of the tax code? Granted it isn't as ridiculously unfair as the marriage penalty vis a vis student loan interest, the fact the maximum deduction for student loan interest hasn't gone up in 20 years, and the absurdly low maximum pre-tax deduction for dependent care ... but if you think about the fact that the SALT cap doesn't affect business entities and only individual taxpayers, and think about who the donors _are_ ...your post just seems like it's missing important things.
― sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
I tried my hardest but just couldn’t enjoy Sterling any more after he went to Chelsea.
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 25 September 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link
my love language
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
I kinda feel that way about Morrissey's "National Front Disco" ... and some of the other "Your Arsenal" songs tbh, though I am American so
― sarahell, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
this is the last thread on earth to be smug about anything in imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 28 September 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link
I don't want to enter the actual thread given its current negativity but oh my god I am pissing myself at NYCNative taking fgti's "I was in Gay Dad" comment seriously.
― emil.y, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link
Lol
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
Yeah what happened in that thread? I read the first few posts and then scrolled down and felt like I'd gone through a wormhole
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
I was gonna correct him, but...ehh, it's Friday night. Let it lie.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link
To be honest it's a much better thread than I thought it was going to be (the potential for abuse apologism was high but seems to have been mostly avoided). But it got horribly personal and I don't want to step into that.
The main point though is lol lol lol lol
― emil.y, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
^ otm
ps to tabes, Branwell and fgti are both longtime ilx0rs who have changed display names (and IRL artistic pseudonyms), flambo is a working musician who was not the drummer in Gay Dad (& is not English)
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Saturday, 3 October 2020 05:00 (three years ago) link
I was going to make an effort to follow that thread but then that happened. Both of those posters can be quite interesting but perhaps a bit volatile, to say the least.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 October 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link
God will someone, perhaps Sarahell, just message me who these people with the new display names might be? I've been here 06, started taking longer breaks in 2011, cut it out most by 2012...and then came back seven years later.
It's a weird feeling to feel like an old hand and a noob at the same time.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 October 2020 11:28 (three years ago) link
If any thread should be locked..
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 October 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link
emil.y, that made me go and read the whole thread. Great thread actually. but yeah, loool
― kinder, Saturday, 3 October 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
Amazing turn of events in that thread! :-) Not Branwell making it about themselves again, but the Gay Dad 'J'accuse!' from NYCNative is just chefskiss.jpg
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 3 October 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
Dude, this is the third time in a few weeks that you have made a similar comment and I am starting to find this creepy.
Did it occur to you, that if someone on this board is weirdly obsessed with making things ~all about Branwell~, it might not actually be Branwell?
― Branwell with an N, Saturday, 3 October 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
But then again...
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 3 October 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
That thread was *about* people's own experiences, personal relationships to art and where people's own "lines" are drawn. It's gonna have posts that are about the people posting them.WW2 post was interesting btw, not something I'd explicitly thought about before.
― kinder, Saturday, 3 October 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
This is a perennial post asking posters to refrain from applying larger pathologies to Branwell's posts-- even as someone who felt as if a line was crossed in their recent discourse and (gently, I hope) sought to establish a boundary, I value Branwell's contributions here and feel that they are subject to far more armchair psychology than any other regular poster
Surprised to read that I'm considered volatile, to say the least!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 3 October 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
As someone who has had some WTF-ish exchanges with Branwell in the past, I agree with this 100%.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 3 October 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
Likewise
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 October 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
Not a standard they themselves apply to others, of course.
― seumas milm (gyac), Saturday, 3 October 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link