well the phrase was used in scare quotes
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
want to see a comic serious book film tbh
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
have you met ZAC SNYDER harbinger of seriousness and bad films
― mh, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
I liked TDK but I kind of harbor a grudge against the "serious, gritty" Nolan trilogy because it's pretty much the main reason the 60s TV show has never and will never be on DVD.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
why?
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
Do you have something to back that up?'60s Batman TV show is one of my favorite things ever.I am fine with a world where gravel-voice nipples Batman wiretaps and Adam West does the Batdance. They can coexist peacefully. I like them both.
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
^^
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:33 (twelve years ago) link
It's like having an Old Testament and a New Testament God. No one's criticized The Bible for that, I'm pretty sure.
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link
idk, the jews don't have much truck with the latter
― mh, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
I remember hearing the 60s Batman wasn't on DVD because they don't own the rights to the tv show Batmobile and Warner Bros have to pay the guy through the teeth for it. They can syndicate it without a new contract, but home video is a different ball of wax.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean, it hasn't been on home video or dvd or anything ever, for decades. whether DC has done that in part out of some misguided attempt to stop it from 'hurting' the movie franchises or not, can't really lay blame for that at nolan's feet.
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah im basing that off something i read on Wikipedia years ago.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
Still, i think that 60s show gets the short end of the stick. It's pretty awesome.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
if nolan was remotely the reason the '60s Batman isn't on DVD, that would be some serious "life imitates Simpsons episode" shit
― da croupier, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
"go get 'em, scouts!"
AFAIK this is pretty much the truth. The producers of the show made a contract and got paid for TV syndication, which is why Batman can still be shown on TV as reruns, but for it to be released on video would require a separate contract and payment (since for obvious reasons the original contact doesn't cover anything beyond TV runs), and for whatever reason Warner/DC hasn't managed to negotiate one.
― Tuomas, Monday, 30 April 2012 07:48 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway, I haven't been paying much attention to the news regarding this movie, but noticed IMDb now says Liam Neeson will appear in it as Ra's Al Ghul (presumably in flashbacks?) and some kid is playing "young Talia Al Ghul". So that pretty much confirms Marion Cotillard is Talia, right?
And if the movie is gonna deal with the Al Ghul legacy, I doubt they'll have much space to include the Knightfall stuff, Bane will probably just be an henchman of Talia's. Though it would be funny if the movie ended with Bruce Wayne getting his back broken and the Batman mantle being passed to AZRAEL, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Actually, it would be kinda fitting, as Azrael was originally supposed to be a critique of the idea of a grim & gritty 90s Batman, but the Nolan movies seemed to have embraced that idea fully.
― Tuomas, Monday, 30 April 2012 08:03 (twelve years ago) link
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh no you don't!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJicfFcO74E
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:46 (twelve years ago) link
wtf I can't believe they adapted THAT book
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
the neanderthal incest novel
"serious comic book film" = american splendor...?
― phantompenguin, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
nobody from big bang theory is in the dark knight rises dude
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:45 (15 hours ago) Permalink
Two Broke Bats
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
hough it would be funny if the movie ended with Bruce Wayne getting his back broken and the Batman mantle being passed to AZRAEL, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
I would love if this meant JGL is playing a cartoon cat henchman.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8evyE9TuYk#!
― GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
yikes
― Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
Kaboom, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
Nice to see that bottle brush treatment on Bane's throat nodes did the trick.
I was going to say the lack of Cotillard meant some bits were still under wraps, but she's in there toward the end
― mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
whoo, that was pretty damn cool. cannot wait for this movie.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
0:12 : wheelchair reversing
I know it's been said already, but the way the two masks are related to each other is just wow, imo. (the mf'ing batman has everything but his mouth covered, while bad guy dude's the diametrically opposite mirror other way round like)
― StanM, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
ah damn. looks GREAT. wanted to be all high and mighty about this, but i can't. photography, cinematography, costumes and production design look amazing. excellent trailer.
re bane's mask: i love how it looks like two sets of knuckles trying to pry his jaws apart, real tense and disturbing.
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:30 (twelve years ago) link
this despite the fact that i didn't much care for either of nolan's previous batman movies
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
Catwoman says, "You've given these people everything", and Batman answers "Not everything" = another hint that he will die in this movie? (I.e. he hasn't yet given his life for them.)
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link
bane's mask looks like goatse
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that was the really obvious, heavy-handed implication, Tuomas.
― mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link
ha that "not everything, not yet" had me wondering if Bale had de-muppeted the Bat, but "it's not a car" corrected that impression.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
Would like if Batman ended up in the wheelchair due to lifting heavy books using a poor technique.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
Alfred desperately warning him in advance but it's too late.
― StanM, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:18 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
the big secret about cotillard's character is that she's a new villain called "hear no evil" that wears extravagantly designed goth earmuffs
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
I think you're thinking of Catwoman
― mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not a big fan of the Bane look, it's too Hannibal Lecter for my taste. Just another example of Nolan trying to make Batman overtly serious, I guess.
I know comic book costumes are hard to transfer to live action, but I wish they would've used some kind of a variation of Bane's current costume in the comics, it's pretty awesome:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/54403/1703271-ss3.jpg
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
Unlike most super dudes, Bane actually has an in-story explanation for those ridiculous muscles, so I think it's fitting he wears a rather flamboyant top to show them off.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
Tuomas i don't think you can act surprised at this late date that Nolan is staying the course with this franchise's aesthetic. just take a deep breath, try not to make the same point 200 billion times on this thread over the next six months, and wait patiently for McG to be announced as the director of the next Batman movie.
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
That trailer definitely implies the end is nigh for Batman. Wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of passing of the baton -BAT-on - though.
I wonder why villains generally only attack this one city. In these comic book universes, is there, like, a supervillain who ever pummels, say, the entire state of Iowa into submission? Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda)
too late indeed
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
dammit canks
― goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?
Every morning, man. Every morning.
― mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
They recently kinda tried to address this in Marvel comics by making every US state have its own superteam. But yeah, usually they just ignore the whole question, and with Marvel it's actually worse than with DC - most major DC heroes (Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Arrow, etc) live in separate fictional cities, whereas with Marvel 80% of the heroes live in NYC.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
I do appreciate the scope of Nolan's Batman stories, though. Gotham as an island, both figuratively and literally, with the rest of the world only existing when it makes sense for the story. I never read it, but wasn't there a late 90s/early 00s story -- No Man's Land, maybe -- where the national government basically said they were throwing up their hands and giving up on Gotham? The same sort of thing seems to be happening here -- the entire city under siege, the bridges being destroyed, Batman in exile.
As opposed to villains who have some sort of grand scheme but mostly seem interested in screwing with Batman/Bruce Wayne, Nolan's trilogy started with a villain who wanted to basically level the place and start over. So you have an external siege on the city with Batman being triumphant, an internal siege on the city from a villain who acts as a force of nature and Harvey Dent triumphant (according to public perception), and finally the external siege that has the weakness of the second part's lie to work off of.
― mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
i think it's just pointless to wonder whether all the action IS in the city the story takes place in, like if they made some allusion to "well, Metropolis has its own problems right now!" that would just be a stupid fan service thing. besides, Gotham is a crime-ridden hellhole, asking why different villains are making trouble there and not elsewhere is like asking why Al Capone didn't do his business out in the countryside.
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link