the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

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this is kinda funny: http://www.starwarsuncut.com/

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

The CGI "celebration sequence across the galaxy" in Return of the Jedi, the updated version. Like the Ewok song was bad enough George.

pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

"death sticks"

Grip Tape And Some Wikked Trucks (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

can't imagine what a kid who's already seen I-III would think of "A New Hope." But then any kid that actually sat through I-III without the memory of the original trilogy is already unfathomable to me.

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

ya i mean, if you watch them "in order" does it make any kind of sense?

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it's weird to think that someday (if not already) there will be folks who will naturally gravitate towards watching the six films in numerical order

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

like doesn't it completely undercut the big darth is luke's father reveal??

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I keep drilling my 8 year old son over and over again that Empireis the best, but Ep III is his favorite.
"Anakin's annoying."
"So what, he's cool. And I like droidekas."

pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

droidekas?

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

This is probably more of a good thing than a crime, but that the key battle scene between Anakin and Obi Wan Kenobi appears to be entirely modelled on the Black Knight scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690

Keith, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

like doesn't it completely undercut the big darth is luke's father reveal??

what a disaster this will be for whatever young mutant would actually watch them all for the first time in numerical order

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

you'd like to think by halfway through Clones they'd just put on some brokencyde and play a video game

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ya im just sayin!!

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess what really pissed me off is that when i watched the original trilogy i there were passing mentions of a young anakin/vader, i always imagined this amazing charismatic, grim, kinda sociopathic dude who would be played by some epic actor, but then they toss it to some asshole who comes off like a fratboy killer from some episode of csi: miami.

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

"and there"

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

that's almost too complimentary to hayden christiansen

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

what bugs me even more is that young badass obi wan turned out to be such a drip... he really should have been the han of hte series...

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i mean alec guinness was kind of weirdly imposing, right? and ewan mcgregor came off as kind of...short?

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

oh god yeah crime no. 35235: Obi-Dan Fogelberg

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

The alterations made to the Jabba's palace scene...ughhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQzJlL1wqs

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

they always implied that obi-wan was a real loose cannon and his recklessness is sorta what "made" darth vader

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Darth Maul sure was thrilling, though, no? With his Mudvayne make up and everything?

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

insertion of Hayden Christensen ghost at the end of Jedi was particularly grating and is a handy symbol for the new films poisoning the old ones.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

oh remember when obi wan and liam neeson double-teamed him? that was so cheap!! they also double-teamed count dooku, an elderly man

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

it's such a basic rule, the GOOD GUYS are supposed to be outnumbered

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Its been hinted at, but it needs to be said - CGI Jabba.

Motherfucker had GRAVITAS when you just assumed that he was moved by people, based on his influence. Now, thanks to Colonel Neck Retention Chinstrap's merciless fucking about, Jabba is a slug, skirting around freighter bays on Mos Eisley.

I got it. I'm gone. (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

half the OG characters were these free-wheeling assholes too, and everyone in the new trilogy was really inert and studied.

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

insertion of Hayden Christensen ghost at the end of Jedi was particularly grating and is a handy symbol for the new films poisoning the old ones.

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Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

god when i saw those remastered/restored star wars movies... digital jabba made me really sad xp

ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Motherfucker had GRAVITAS when you just assumed that he was moved by people, based on his influence. Now, thanks to Colonel Neck Retention Chinstrap's merciless fucking about, Jabba is a slug, skirting around freighter bays on Mos Eisley.

― I got it. I'm gone. (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:16 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

totally totally

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i gotta say i thought macgregor was a great obi wan but its not hard to look good in those movies

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously, the whole awesome thing about jabba in return of the jedi was he didn't move

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

they also double-teamed count dooku, an elderly man

Bad image. Very bad image.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought macgregor got the voice down 100% and he was ok in some ways, but his physical presence was nil imo

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i gotta say i thought macgregor was a great obi wan but its not hard to look good in those movies

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he had the voice down and he seemed game but he had nothing to do but frown and scold

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

xp haha

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

possibly because they made him wear a rattail

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

You want gravitas? Jimmy Smits had gravitas.

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess macgregors obi-wan should have been the WORST thing in a potentially amazing star wars prequels and instead it turned out to be the best

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

The idea that nearly every jedi in the universe can be killed by a bunch of regular dudes in one fell swoop, and without each death being an incredible epic battle, drove me insane.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

you know, in theory I appreciate trying to make Anakin's move to the dark side feel like the result of a personal/emotional tragic flaw as opposed to an intellectual decision, but holy geez did they take this way too far, even despite all the crappy exposition, basically making his change into Vader feel like the result of just being a jackass teen-rebel wannabe who fell in with the wrong crowd

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

a list of what people praised from lucas '90s on is just about as embarrassing as his crimes.

YODA FIGHT WOW!!!!

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean there's the banality of evil and then there's just the banality of these movies

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

to be fair to ewan tho what would you do if you were cast as OBI WAN FUCKING KENOBI and you show up to the set the first day and find out you have to do a scene opposite the kid from jingle all the way and stepin fechit inside a blue room?

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Did you know that Anakin cannot possibly attack Obi-Wan effectively when Obi-Wan has the higher ground? The things you learn.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

the campy bad guys were the only good part of the prequels: dooku and emperor were over the top

pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

big crime for me: making rational adults see the prequels multiple times until they "kinda liked it" by holding a lightsaber to their inner child's neck

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

a list of what people praised from lucas '90s on is just about as embarrassing as his crimes.

YODA FIGHT WOW!!!!

― da croupier, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha i remember how desperate i was at that point to find ANYTHING redeeming about the movies that people would ask me how it was and i would be like, YODA FIGHTS!!! and theyd be like yeah but is it good and id say YODA FIGHTS A DUDE and theyd say youre not answering my question and then i would go cry somewhere

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

YODA FIGHTS DOOKU yeah for about 15 seconds...

Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link


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