FRASIER vs. NEWSRADIO

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semi-classic 90s nbc sitcoms that i have been watching some lately.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
newsradio 48
frasier 19


ho hum i'm having a fantasy (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

newsradio in a walk

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi frasier won like 1,000 emmys and newsradio only won 1 and no majors! pretty weird also i guess frasier was really popular but newsradio wasnt really - remember that being true but i thought that newsradio was critically pretty well regarded?

ho hum i'm having a fantasy (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

newsradio was never particularly popular--kind of just enough to stick around. i think for a big network sitcom it was totally weird and a little transgressive w/r/t genre conventions. and, of course, phil hartman.

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

For eleven years, whenever someone at Thanksgiving asked what I did for a living, I'd explain it for five minutes before finally just going with "You know Roz off of 'Frasier'? Kinda like that."

I voted for Newsradio.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

not even a contest, newsradio is amazing

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Newsradio was charming and odd, had a great cast (Dave Foley excepted, who was often the wet blanket), but Frasier's acting and writing and general tone was some of the best of the best sitcom tv had to offer during that time.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked both of these shows a lot, but I liked "Newsradio" more. Why because Maura Tierney look intersting

1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

frasier loses big points for having the "funny show is serious" unrequited love shit that is the downfall of many an otherwise-okay sitcom

gangsta hug (omar little), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

df played a great straight man, and was often weirder than anyone else anyway

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yes + maura tierney, who is the only celebrity i've ever seen out and about in l.a. that i even considered just going up to and saying hello

gangsta hug (omar little), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I loved that they had Andy Dick on to be "the weirdo" and then surrounded him with characters who were all equally as weird.

1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Whenever I think of Maura Tierney, the image that comes to mind is of her lighting a cigarette on a windy day. Not sure if I've ever seen this represented on tv or in a movie, but it's true.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

cast of newsradio > cast of frasier no doubt altho i think stephen root doesnt get enuff love but the writing on frasier was fukken ace imo best zany situations

ho hum i'm having a fantasy (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Matthew Brock (Andy Dick) is a news reporter and official "office weird guy". Clumsy, awkward and maladroit, the character is the butt of many physical jokes on the show, and is often seen tripping, falling, flying over furniture, or handling electronics that explode or catch fire. Matthew idolizes Bill, who in return calls him "Spaz" and torments him with often cruel jokes. Matthew is known for his odd obsessions and his slavish devotion to his pet cats, once even refusing a plum assignment because it would require being separated from them for several days. Matthew holds a degree in dentistry (and is shown to actually be a more than competent dentist), but prefers to work in radio journalism, considering it his passion.

iatee, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i think that probably happened in every ER episode

xp

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

"funny show is serious" unrequited love shit

This is no worse than replacing Phil Hartman with Jon Lovitz, a move that sounded good in theory but was disasterous in practice.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yes it is worse

gangsta hug (omar little), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm still voting for Newsradio and I liked it a lot back in the day - but would anyone read that paragraph and think "I want to watch that show!"??

iatee, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

idk iatee sounds like a situation ripe for comedy imo

also i havent really seen any like post-98 or 99 frasiers just a minute or two channel flipping when i was looking up these shows i had no idea it ran until 2004!

ho hum i'm having a fantasy (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Did Newsradio have EDDIE THE DOG? I think not.

(that's a vote for Frasier, obv)

ailsa, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the only onscreen things that stress me out are certain episodes of frasier, where he has like 2 dates, one in the bedroom and one in the kitchen and he has to keep running around trying to fake his way through the whole thing....RUN FRASIER RUN THEY ARE ON TO YOU!!!!!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:04 PM

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

There actually was a lot of funny stuff in the last two seasons of Frasier (Daphne's family members, in particular), but it was often a chore to watch by then. xxp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

God, Daphne's family were excruciating! The stuff with Laura Linney right at the end of the last series was wonderful though, and the Daphne and Niles thing worked out just fine when the love became requited. Also, Lilith = A++++ character

ailsa, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

God, Daphne's family were excruciating!

DELICIOUSLY EXCRUCIATING! Anthony Lapaglia FTW

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

remember how for awhile everyone was afraid daphne would end up with saul rubinek, whew dodged that bullet

gangsta hug (omar little), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

frasier went from being alright to being unbearable pretty quickly, and then stuck around on tv for another 50 years.

akm, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, and Frasier's whole strange relationship with Jean Smart's character was fantastic too.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, Daphne falling for the utterly charmless Donnie was totally OMGWTF right out of character.

Tempted to rescind my Frasier vote for that episode in Daphne's British pub with her British friends.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Maura Tierney look intersting

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the only onscreen things that stress me out are certain episodes of frasier, where he has like 2 dates, one in the bedroom and one in the kitchen and he has to keep running around trying to fake his way through the whole thing....RUN FRASIER RUN THEY ARE ON TO YOU!!!!!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:04 PM

― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:28 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also, i don't think any britishes will look kindly upon daphne's britisher familles.

also, cheers>>>>>>>>>>>frasier, has to be said.

also, i have not seen newsradio but would like to.

Oh baby if only you knew I'm down to a hundred-and-two (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

You can watch it on Hulu.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

not in britishland i can't

Oh baby if only you knew I'm down to a hundred-and-two (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"funny show is serious" i.e. "the moment of shit"

I loved that they had Andy Dick on to be "the weirdo" and then surrounded him with characters who were all equally as weird.

There was an episode where an intern showed up who was like an even weirder Andy Dick - skinny, clumsy, dressed like an eight-year-old. Andy Dick's character spent the entire episode complaining that the new guy was usurping his rightful role as "the weird guy in the office".

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I always got a kick out of the Crane Boys mysteries.

loose lobsters (brownie), Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever watched an episode of Frasier all the way through.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

hits too close to home?

ho hum i'm having a fantasy (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

newsradio in a walk

^^^^ Case closed.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

also, i don't think any britishes will look kindly upon daphne's britisher familles.

What's the British equivalent of white trash?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

White trash that doesn't sound like people with totally weird and non-white-trashy accents.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, RICHARD E GRANT? REALLY?

ailsa, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I need to go back and see those eps, because the only people I'm remembering are her mother and whoever it was that Lapaglia played (brother?).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

What's the frequency, Lamp?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

LaPaglia was one brother, Richard E Grant and Robbie Coltrane were the others. Brian Cox was her dad. So, an Australian, a posh dude from Swaziland and two Scots. The idea of the characters was fine, but the casting and the accents, not so much (not to mention Jane Leeves' attempt at portraying a Mancunian...). Her mum was probably the best of the lot, so kudos to Millicent Martin for that.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

have only seen the first season of Newsradio but Frasier holds up pretty well against most sitcoms

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 11 June 2009 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

fave random newsradio memories:

the episode where bill mcneal decides to pursue a career singing satirical political songs and everyone tells him he's ripping off the guy that already does that.

whenever they joked about not interacting with any of the extras and only holding staff meetings for themselves.

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm... I think I have to go with Newsradio for Hartman. Frasier is great as well, but I agree that it went on a little too long. I love both shows - but its Newsradio I have on DVD, so.

I'm Rick Wakeman, bitch! (Trayce), Friday, 12 June 2009 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

dave foley shoulda gone on to greater things than he has

mookieproof, Friday, 12 June 2009 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link

he looks really creepy and awful now tho like even cartoon child molesters are qn his facial hair

2 me the quintessential frasier episode is the one where they all go to a ski lodge w/ some hot friend of daphne's and a good looking french ski instructor dude and most of the episode is french farce + witty repartee and tryna sleep with someone that wants to sleep with someone else. i mean i havent really done it justice but frasier was on w/ that shit like basically no other show was or is but newsradio idk feel like its a good show but there are better wacky workplace jams out there

Lamp, Friday, 12 June 2009 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

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xhuxkfactor (los blue jeans), Friday, 12 June 2009 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Watching Jeopardy day before yesterday: "Five People Who Have Never Been In My Kitchen" is now a category. (Even though Cliff only needed three.)

all art is propaganda (kenan), Friday, 19 June 2009 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

seinfeld vs. cheers would be a good poll imo but i guess its 2 obv one-sided

understand the results but i think frasiers bein underrated here

╠╦═╩╤╬╦╩══╦╦╬═╩╣ PIPE WORLD LVL 7 (Lamp), Saturday, 20 June 2009 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Frasier is one of the scariest sitcoms to watch stoned. it should win something for that.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 June 2009 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Roseanne is worse. I had a bad day with Roseanne once.

all art is propaganda (kenan), Saturday, 20 June 2009 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

cool story bro

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 20 June 2009 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I left out the part about the tomato. You should thank me.

(No really, I could ramble on about how Roseanne broke my brain and suddenly became the most deeply strange thing in the world, but... I was stoned.)

all art is propaganda (kenan), Saturday, 20 June 2009 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Was it this episode when you had a bad day with Roseanne once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCYPkPipMZE

Next time, try shrooms.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 20 June 2009 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

although it is hard to watch hartman episodes now because of the weird sideways association of andy dick with his death.

This hasn't been proven, has it? I know Jon Lovitz smashed Andy Dick's head on a barstool, or something, because of the allegation.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 June 2009 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted frasier just cuz i think it's being undervalued...and also it's the last of its kind, the last old fashioned farce sit-com

the relatively famous Cambridge psychologist Sug-Ban Cohen (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 20 June 2009 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, "Will & Grace" was pretty madcap at times.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 20 June 2009 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but there was something so self aware and winky about will and grace

the relatively famous Cambridge psychologist Sug-Ban Cohen (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 20 June 2009 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

At least unlike Frasier, their characters were out of the closet.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 20 June 2009 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

no way the frasier fussbudget stylee was the greatest! i liked them being in the closet

attack! attack! "stick stickly" youtube video 2:48 nvr frgt (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 20 June 2009 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

I've been streaming Newsradio from Netflix (they have the first three seasons) and man, it's such a great show. The writing is consistently strong and the show was good starting from the pilot, doesn't really have a weak beginning like most sitcoms. Most of the cast is amazing (esp. Stephen Root, Phil Hartman, and Dave Foley but Maura Tierney and Vicki Lawrence too). I find Andy Dick and Joe Rogan repellent for different reasons but they're both great on this show too. Khandi Alexander is kind of a weak spot as Catherine but they don't really give her character much to do most of the time. For a show that wasn't really that popular and was almost canceled basically every season it was on, they seem to spend a lot on fancy sets and props that they only use once.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

a tidbit from IMDB: "The cast of NewsRadio was banned from the SAG Awards after one appearance because of their bad behavior. They took their shoes off, stole wine off of the other tables and Andy Dick allegedly asked for Helen Hunt's autograph on his penis."

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha awesome

waka yoga flame (some dude), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

amazing

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

he should have offered an autograph on her penis in exchange

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

"no, what i did was stick out my bare arm and say 'sign ME---Dick!'"

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

This show also has the second-most slap-bassingest theme song of the 1990s.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

it's such a weird fusion-y theme to find yourself singing along to

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

what's the episode where beth makes a dress out of columbia house cds?

abanana, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUWi0h5aRi8

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe it isn't that one.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

yah that's what i was thinking of.

abanana, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...
three years pass...

So, if you haven't seen this show before, is it worth a shot? I'm curious and have basically run out of all other tv to watch.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:55 (eight years ago) link

YES

balls, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:00 (eight years ago) link

YES

(xpost)

haha god bless youtube. was disappointed to find it's not on netflix anymore. amazon prime? nope. somebody upload full episodes to youtube? yes, several seasons.

balls, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:07 (eight years ago) link

a couple years ago the Reelz channel was padding out their schedule with sitcom reruns and was playing 2 episodes of Newsradio a day, really enjoyed that while it lasted. don't think it's run anywhere else since then, seems like it may never.

yeah it was all over the place in syndication for awhile but it's been a long time since i've seen it. paul simms, the guy who created it, hasn't really done much since. he wrote for letterman and then larry sanders before that and post newsradio there's a few (and i do mean few, like 5 in total) episodes of various hbo shows (girls, boardwalk empire, flight of the conchords) he's done but other than that and one pilot w/ matthew broderick that didn't get picked up there's been nothing. every other 'this show was underappreciated' creator i can think of gets a second act, albeit not always one i'm happy to find out about (dude who created better off ted - also a funny show, though no newsradio - bounced back w/ sean saves the world), this guy one great show and that's it.

balls, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:58 (eight years ago) link

there's a dvd collection that has every episode. the commentaries are disappointing -- they were really trying to make a crappy friends clone.

mohawk ororoducer (abanana), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:04 (eight years ago) link

god, maura tierney

j., Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:11 (eight years ago) link

no joke

balls, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:19 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Watching Newsradio all day instead of working is a pretty sweet consolation prize for being sick as shit and couch-ridden. God, I love this show so much. Maybe my favorite three-camera sitcom of all time.

Very glad to see that my search for 'newsradio oral history' was not in vain: http://uproxx.com/tv/newsradio-oral-history/

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:51 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

all five seasons of newsradio are on prime now!!! i don't think it has ever been on any of the big streaming services before? i know there was a season or two if it on crackle or one of those weird ones

na (NA), Friday, 5 August 2022 19:03 (one week ago) link

although it is hard to watch hartman episodes now because of the weird sideways association of andy dick with his death.
What are the allegations? Did he give Hartman's wife some anger-enhancing drugs? I know he went to Vegas with a younger actor who overdosed there.

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 19:23 (one week ago) link

And was eventually on Celebrity Rehab, trying to get his son to get him out of jail.

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 19:24 (one week ago) link

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― xhuxkfactor (los blue jeans), Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:04 PM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Iirc, Andy Dick played some part in recovering addict Brynn Hartman going off the wagon and ultimately killing Phil.

That allegation is why Jon Lobito beat the shit out of Andy Dick

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 5 August 2022 19:32 (one week ago) link

Lol LOVITZ, thanks phone

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 5 August 2022 19:32 (one week ago) link

"I see now, that the title of the book is... Macho Business Donkey Wrestler. I had it translated into Japanese and back into English..."

mh, Friday, 5 August 2022 19:37 (one week ago) link

Frasier is faster, louder, more flamboyantly stylized than Newsradio: frequently calculated to farcical peaks, with doors slamming and people running around yelling, repartee and punchlines, but also w room for romantic, sentimental xp "serious" passages, incl. some resolutions--in that way deviating from otherwise somewhat Sienfeldian approach, the basic rule of which is "No learning, no group hugs"---still works in a screwball comedy-romance way, even though Frasier is huffnpuff express, not like William Powell's cruise control.
NewsRadio's characters get flustered and all, but never as fast and loud as Frazier (which is more like atage comedy, the kind of play that might have been [at least hoping to be] the basis for a William Powell etc. flick). The players, who all seem like sketch comedy company vets, as Foley and Root and Hartman and maybe others were, know when and how to draw it in a little, not overemphasizing the Funny part, cos all funny enough to get by, Not brittle-edgy like Seinfeld, but closer to it in terms of going for pure comedy than Frasier's many and sometimes too many nods to plush mush (while still making title character the butt of well-earned joeks before and after the sentiments)

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 20:14 (one week ago) link

Both are maybe a little tedious sometimes? Haven't seen NewsRadio and a while, but Frasier's on late nights Hallmark Channel or something close to that on the grid, so one of my housemates has it on fairly often

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 20:18 (one week ago) link

maura tierney tho

mookieproof, Friday, 5 August 2022 21:49 (one week ago) link

She would still tip the scales to Newsradio, yeah pretty sure. Always seems truly disturbed by craziness, as Jane Leeves does not (always).

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:13 (one week ago) link

Leeves a tad more overtly professional/om the nose.

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:15 (one week ago) link

on the nose, no om about it

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:16 (one week ago) link


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