nicolas cage, the greatest entertainer of our - or perhaps any - generation (a POLL)

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wanted to make it multiple choice cuz i know what a trial it is to single out just one movie, but i couldnt figure out how. also included some unreleased titles that sounded particularly appetizing. also, alternate subtitle for thread - nic cage, our REAL national treasure

Poll Results

OptionVotes
# Wild at Heart (1990) .... Sailor Ripley 11
# Raising Arizona (1987) .... H.I. McDunnough 11
# Face/Off (1997) .... Castor Troy / Sean Archer 4
# The Wicker Man (2006) .... Edward Malus 4
# Adaptation. (2002) .... Charlie Kaufman / Donald Kaufman 3
# Con Air (1997) .... Cameron Poe 3
# Moonstruck (1987) .... Ronny Cammareri 2
# Vampire's Kiss (1988) .... Peter Loew 2
# Valley Girl (1983) .... Randy 2
# The Weather Man (2005) .... David Spritz 2
# The Rock (1996) .... Dr. Stanley Goodspeed 1
# Zandalee (1991) .... Johnny Collins 1
# It Could Happen to You (1994) .... Charlie Lang 1
# Guarding Tess (1994) .... Doug Chesnic 1
# Deadfall (1993) .... Eddie 1
# Honeymoon in Vegas (1992) .... Jack Singer 1
# Red Rock West (1992) .... Michael Williams 1
# Fire Birds (1990) .... Jake Preston 1
# Lord of War (2005) .... Yuri Orlov 1
# Peggy Sue Got Married (1986) .... Charlie Bodell 1
# Snake Eyes (1998) .... Rick Santoro 1
# Bringing Out the Dead (1999) .... Frank Pierce 1
# Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans (2009) (post-production) <-- holy shit waht 1
# Ghost Rider (2007) .... Johnny Blaze / Ghost Rider 1
# Matchstick Men (2003) .... Roy Waller 1
# Next (2007) .... Cris Johnson 0
# Tempo di uccidere (1989) .... Enrico Silvestri 0
# National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007) .... Ben Gates 0
# Bangkok Dangerous (2008) .... Joe 0
# Knowing (2009) .... John Koestler 0
# Kick-Ass (2009) (post-production) .... Damon Macready 0
# The Boy in Blue (1986) .... Ned Hanlan 0
# Birdy (1984) .... Sgt. Alfonso 'Al' Columbato 0
# Racing with the Moon (1984) .... Nicky/Bud 0
# Rumble Fish (1983) .... Smokey 0
# World Trade Center (2006) .... John McLoughlin 0
# The Ant Bully (2006) (voice) .... Zoc 0
# Grindhouse (2007) .... Fu Manchu (segment "Werewolf Women of the SS") 0
# Gone in Sixty Seconds (2000) .... Memphis Raines 0
# City of Angels (1998) .... Seth 0
# Captain Corelli's Mandolin (2001) .... Captain Antonio Corelli 0
# Windtalkers (2002) .... Sergeant Joe Enders 0
# Sonny (2002) .... Acid Yellow 0
# Leaving Las Vegas (1995) .... Ben Sanderson 0
# Kiss of Death (1995/I) .... Little Junior Brown 0
# Trapped in Paradise (1994) .... Bill Firpo 0
# The Family Man (2000) .... Jack Campbell 0
# National Treasure (2004) .... Ben Gates 0
# Amos & Andrew (1993) .... Amos Odell 0
# 8MM (1999) .... Tom Welles 0


GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Early money's on Wicker Man but this is wide open

"Pieface Game Concept" (G00blar), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

I'm very content never to learn what "Windtalkers" is really about and just pretend it's an hour and half of Nic Cage portentously talking to the wind.

"Pieface Game Concept" (G00blar), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

do i vote for his good movie, or do i vote for any of his AMAZING LOLZ this is hard

is there another oscar-winner of the last few decades who can match his volume and diversity of terrible movies? he's pretty well eclipsed cuba gooding jr., and i can't think of anyone else close.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

you can take away oscar-winner in the above sentence

"Pieface Game Concept" (G00blar), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

i'm torn between valley girl (for sentimental reasons) and adaptation (the last time he was trying, as far as i can tell).

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

xp Robin Williams probably matches him on that count.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

omg captain correlli's mandolin -- i forget that movie exists, all the time

more than anything else i am amazed that his bad movies do so well

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

i have only seen 3 of these movies - the 2 1997 movies and the kaufman...i am such a fuxx

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

they are all awes btw, i kinda don't wanna ruin it

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

louis go see the rock right now.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

Yes the Rock is amazing.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

raising arizona

Reege & Leif (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

gotta go with my first nic cage experience

Vampire's Kiss (1988)

bela fregosi (brownie), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

I was gonna vote for The Rock and then I remembered FACE/OFF! I need to see that again.

iatee, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

oh also, bringing out the dead

iatee, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

what's so impressive about his bad movies is they are almost uniformly AWESOME - i really cant think of anyone in hollywood who has entertained me as much over the years, when u get down 2 brass tax

biggest disappointment - world trade center, for being all solemn and -_-. i had a wishlist of things i wanted to see in a nicolas cage 9/11 movie (like, say, a shot of the first tower going down and cage leaping onto the 2nd one from it) and those wishes went woefully unfulfilled ;_;

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

# Grindhouse (2007) .... Fu Manchu (segment "Werewolf Women of the SS")

Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

e's pretty well eclipsed cuba gooding jr., and i can't think of anyone else close.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra)

^^no way, cage movies are still amazing experiences

710 east green in bensenville near o'hare (omar little), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

not all, Next is incredibly shitty

bnw, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

Matchstick Men gets my vote. he's really sweet there.

Ludo, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

max, RE "DO SO WELL," lots of the big-budget FX shit sandwiches are no more than marginally profitable if they gross $100 mill in US. I really don't think the National Treasures would be any less profitable if you stuck some other name-recog ho in there.

The Weather Man and Lord of War got some respectful reviews, but didn't look bad/lol enuf for anyone to go see i guess.

also, aside from Raising Arizona the most defensible choice is RED ROCK WEST.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

Dave has recently applied for a position as the weatherman on a national show called "Hello America" which is hosted by Bryant Gumbel, and represents a much, much higher salary than the already high salary Dave has, but also would mean a relocation for himself and possibly his whole family (provided he can reconcile with Noreen) Dave sees this job opportunity as a final way to prove himself to his father and make him proud before he passes away.

Dave has a 12-year-old daughter Shelly (Gemmenne de la Peña) who smokes and is obese and teased by her classmates, who call her "camel toe" because her genitals show through her tight clothing.

I really have to catch up on my post-Y2K Cage movies.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.filmwad.com/fw_images/worstmovies/matchstickmenwarner.jpg

Ludo, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

Peggy Sue Got Married

Featuring Ben Jones as Geir's Cooter (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

Voted weather man. It's not amazing or anything but tons of lines and moments had stuck with me.

ryan, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

Next is pretty fucking bad but at least it's pretty tight compared to 8mm which is boring as well as horrible.

Voting for Con Air but more for the ensemble cast than for our boy.

Hongroe Like the Wolf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

There are often lists of the great living male movie stars: De Niro, Nicholson and Pacino, usually. How often do you see the name of Nicolas Cage? He should always be up there. He's daring and fearless in his choice of roles, and unafraid to crawl out on a limb, saw it off and remain suspended in air. No one else can project inner trembling so effectively." Ebert adds, "He alway seems so earnest. However improbable his character, he never winks at the audience. He is committed to the character with every atom and plays him as if he were him

Ludo, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

srsly, I've never seen this movie but I might vote for it anyway.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

remake of bad lieutenant directed by werner herzog and starring nic cage waht?!

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

biggest disappointment - world trade center, for being all solemn and -_-. i had a wishlist of things i wanted to see in a nicolas cage 9/11 movie (like, say, a shot of the first tower going down and cage leaping onto the 2nd one from it)

I swear to god, when the very first news of 9/11 came through and all that we knew out here was a plane crash and fire in one of the buildings I made a comment to some friends about how I wasn't looking forward to the inevitable movie starring Nicolas Cage. AND IT CAME TRUE.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

but surely you didn't think it wd be a conspiracy-free O.Stone film

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

You are correct.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

I want to take my... face... off...

srsly voted for Wild at Heart.

Viceroy, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

WILD AT HEART

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

Lord of War is pretty underrated.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

boring as hell choice, but gotta go with H.I. McDunnough.

this dude's unintentional lols ratio is out of control. i caught the first few minutes of moonstruck on tv a while back and he is fucking perposterous.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

preposterous

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

gotta go with my first nic cage experience

Vampire's Kiss (1988) Moonstruck (1987)

― bela fregosi (brownie)

I LOST MY HAND
I LOST MY BRIDE
JOHNNY HAS HIS HAND
JOHNNY HAS HIS BRIDE

, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

^^^hahaha YES

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

a bride without a head

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

OMG "to the bed"

OMG

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I've seen that scene in maybe 15 years but it has a different ring to it now.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

"Raising Arizona" ffs!

Pashmina, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Voted Wickeman, Adaptation close second, Ghostrider in third, but I mainly remember Eva Mendes' performance.

jel --, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

well when I say performance, I mean cleavage.

jel --, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

Wild At Heart. No contest.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

gettin a Weinstein look

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 October 2019 17:59 (one year ago) link

I've had it with this motherfuckin cat on this motherfuckin boat

frogbs, Friday, 11 October 2019 18:00 (one year ago) link

hold on a second isn't this just Con Air with zoo animals

frogbs, Friday, 11 October 2019 18:10 (one year ago) link

what's your point?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 11 October 2019 18:54 (one year ago) link

"just"

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:33 (one year ago) link

https://www.headlineshirts.net/nicolas-cage-mood-board-t-shirt.html

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so beautiful, truly elegant

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:37 (one year ago) link

cage is at risk of - if he has not already - being baconed

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:42 (one year ago) link

yeah I think that happened about 6-7 years ago

still think the entire essence of Nic Cage is perfectly captured in those 30 second Pachinko commercials he did for Japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:46 (one year ago) link

cage is at risk of - if he has not already - being baconed

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:42 (yesterday) link

Nah, he’s not Chuck Norris. He can’t be reduced to a bunch of dumb memes.

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:20 (one year ago) link

Cage cannot be caged

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:25 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Color Out of Space was dope. visually similar to Annhilation (though obv Lovecraft predates the book that inspired that film).

Cage gets old-school Cage at times, there's laughs, but it's a visceral experience.

wish I'd gotten baked beforehand.

i've seen no good people (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:15 (one year ago) link

lmao is this the one with Tommy Chong in it

frogbs, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:23 (one year ago) link

i wanna see this movie so bad!!!!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:24 (one year ago) link

seeing it tomorrow; will pack goodies

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:36 (one year ago) link

and yes, chong is in it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:36 (one year ago) link

He rules in it

i've seen no good people (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:38 (one year ago) link

how scary are we talking? i desperately want to watch this but my wife does not like anything too horror-adjacent.

adam, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:37 (one year ago) link

not v scary but it gets pretty gory

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:41 (one year ago) link

when I'm down I love to revisit the pachinko ad where everyone is having bad luck but Cage, it cheers me up every time

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:45 (one year ago) link

it's disorienting but yeah not outright terrifying, outside of uhhh....well let's just say, what are your opinion on fingers

... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:48 (one year ago) link

Muttered this on FB last night about it:

The basic framework of the story is pretty much the Lovecraft; Stanley’s dark humor is absolutely in full effect in many ways. The changes to make the story more immediately dramatic are a mix — couple of obvious moves here and there I wasn’t completely on board with, and it there’s a key change it’s that the alien presence is more active at various points instead of it being a slow, steady degrading (but again, drama for the story). Cage doesn’t start fully Caging until about an hour in — one particular moment garnered a spontaneous round of applause, which I didn’t expect, but then again, wasn’t sure how many people are just there to see Cage do Cage. Gorgeous looking film at many points, and Colin Stetson once again has an amazing score. In the Q&A from last week’s premiere they showed, Cage and Stanley talked about how _Ordinary People_ was a reference in ways on the family drama front, and I can see it. Lots of fun references here and there and there is one key reference that gets a specific visual echo right at the end which I enjoyed — suffice to say I want to hear Nathan Carson’s reaction to it (great adaptation BTW). Oh one big thing I did NOT like was that in the end credits one of the featured songs was some track by fucking Burzum. Whoever’s idea that was, it was shit, and if either Stanley or Stetson picked it, I’m gravely disappointed if so.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 January 2020 21:46 (one year ago) link

triple-bill this in between Fast Color and Annihilation, yeah

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:34 (one year ago) link

in terms of Cage-iness, it's very fun that he's a normal calm dad until he gets infected with an alien brain virus that turns him into ~Nicolas Cage~

although tbf this is to some degree also the premise of Mom & Dad (2018)

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:37 (one year ago) link

when I'm down I love to revisit the pachinko ad where everyone is having bad luck but Cage, it cheers me up every time

I love these commercials so much. There's a compilation on YouTube of all five which I have probably watched over a hundred times. They capture the essence of Cage so perfectly, there are a couple which basically encapsulate an entire Nic Cage movie in 30 seconds

frogbs, Thursday, 23 January 2020 23:01 (one year ago) link

so this is kinda "Close Encounters of the Third Kind meets The Shining as directed by Jodorowsky, starring Nic Cage and a team of alpacas". If that doesn't sell you, you're not gonna enjoy it.

About a half hour too long, the fx is occasionally corny as fuck and i found the sound design really annoying (quit it with the whistling already!) but it's generally a blast visually, especially for the last ten minutes or so, plus lots of lovecraft jokes if that's your thing.

Beyond that, my audience was roaring at every Cage-ism and I mostly was too. You'll definitely want to pregame.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 January 2020 07:18 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

absolutely awesome and p much as good as Mandy

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Saturday, 29 February 2020 23:55 (one year ago) link

v funny, v hyperaccelerated, v surreal and v v eldritch

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Saturday, 29 February 2020 23:56 (one year ago) link

Watched Deadfall over the holidays, to which that series of descriptors also roughly applies.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 March 2020 00:43 (one year ago) link

absolutely awesome and p much as good as Mandy

lol no

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Sunday, 1 March 2020 02:01 (one year ago) link

In no way in the same league as Mandy but fun nonetheless.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 1 March 2020 02:19 (one year ago) link

It helped that my expectations were only moderately high - it surpassed them at every turn. The two films will absolutely come to be regarded together I think. This one had more of a focus on ecological destruction and familial anxiety and subsumed the antagonist into the protagonist, and perhaps Mandy had the stronger and more original vision, but they're both superbly-executed odes to different eras of kickass fantasy horror idk

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Sunday, 1 March 2020 08:56 (one year ago) link

I haven't seen Annihilation yet - maybe that's next

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Sunday, 1 March 2020 08:58 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

former ilx0r m1ccio is running a bracket poll of Cageflix on twitter during lockdown, if anyone wants to play

donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 02:18 (one year ago) link

I hope that Sono/Cage movie wrapped before COVID hit.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 02:58 (one year ago) link

i think it's been 18 months since i watched every cage movie and i am pretty sure i am now like 10 behind

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:19 (one year ago) link

like trying to visit every page on the internet

wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:21 (one year ago) link


Juria316
5 months ago
I love how Nicolas Cage has become a genre.

meisenfek, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:24 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Saw Pig, the Nicholas Cage looks for his pig movie, tonight and I was pretty floored. Don’t miss this one…

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 18 July 2021 11:20 (one week ago) link

It could be summarized as John Wick meets The Truffle Hunters. But by the third course act it's really much more.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 18 July 2021 23:07 (one week ago) link

Got Snakes on a Plane vibes from the trailer but Nic Cage seems like the kind of actor who could actually pull this off

frogbs, Sunday, 18 July 2021 23:28 (one week ago) link

I think he did. Certain elements of the Portland culinary underworld, as presented in this movie, strain credulity. But Cage's performance works in this setting.

Question for anyone who knows more about restaurants than I do: is molecular gastronomy still a thing? I was under the impression that it had died with El Bulli, in part because of Noma and the hype around foraging.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 18 July 2021 23:35 (one week ago) link

I want to see Pig but I don't go to theaters anymore. Once it pops up on Amazon or Hulu or someplace I'll definitely check it out.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 July 2021 23:44 (one week ago) link

is molecular gastronomy still a thing?

In the context of Portland, no. I don't think it ever took hold here to begin with.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 19 July 2021 03:11 (one week ago) link

is molecular gastronomy still a thing?

It's been two years since I've been to a top-end restaurant, but imo what happened is that those techniques have been more broadly absorbed by top-end "fancy" restaurants. Even top-end places that don't advertise themselves as molecular gastronomy may use aggressively modern elements/techniques within whatever else they are doing.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Monday, 19 July 2021 12:12 (one week ago) link

is molecular gastronomy still a thing

Absolutely, but I think so many of its attributes and trappings are just common practice now that it's not really called that.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 July 2021 13:14 (one week ago) link

The real culinary frontier is elemental gastronomy.

Noel Emits, Monday, 19 July 2021 13:29 (one week ago) link

liked this a lot. seemed like all that stuff was just a vehicle to say "none of this is real," as Cage's character doesn't know or care what's happening in that world anymore. restaurant scene was great - "old world, uh, traditions."

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Monday, 19 July 2021 22:27 (one week ago) link

It's kind of a shame that Cage has been in this cycle of ott kitsch and gun for hire shit, as I keep hearing nothing but good things about this.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 July 2021 20:42 (six days ago) link


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