Tarantino Poll

I have a huge soft spot for scrappy reservoir dogs but it's gotta be pulp fiction

morbs challops in 4... 3... 2...

reservoir dogs cause it'll need the vote and i can watch it any time

I think I'm about at the point where I could re-experience PF. I think I got overexposed to it at one point. Certain members of my social circle decided that their entire sense of humor consisted of quoting that movie. Of course, they were the same people who had formerly constructed their sense of humor entirely out of Monty Python and Spinal Tap quotes, so.

Voted for Jackie because I loved it and thought it underrated.

KB1 4eva

will anyone sane vote for death proof

I considered it!

So, no.

I like Death Proof, but it's not his best movie.

In my experience, Jackie Brown is the one that rewards multiple viewings best. Not sure if that's a good criterion for 'best movie' but that's how I'm voting anyway.

LOVED jackie brown

I also loved "Jackie Brown"

still voted KB1

I'm tired of voting for Jackie Brown, but I don't want Reservoir Dogs to win, so I guess that's my best bet.

Well, that and it's clearly his best film. That's the other reason to vote for it, I mean.

I will totally rep for Death Proof but yeah whether or not its his best is arguable. As his certifiable "breakthrough" PF is good but in retrospect there are a lof of annoying things in it (Travolta, Bruce Willis, "dead nigger storage", etc.) that really make it his least enjoyable for me. It unfairly overshadows RD, which, while smaller in scope, has a lot more interesting things going on in it (plus my all-time favorite QT line: "Don't point that gun at my dad"). The KB movies are about equally matched.

Jackie Brown I think I've only seen once in the theater and then again recently on TV (very heavily edited). I should watch that again.

Travolta and Willis are just fine in PF, which is the winner.

yeah i disagree with all this critiques of pulp fiction, which is what i voted for.

kinda want to rep for jackie brown, as it is really good and nicely understated for QT. But I really think I enjoy PF (yeah, took some time + distance) and RD just ever so slightly more. haven't seen KB II or the grindhouse one, but KB wasn't my thing at all.

Still think KB1 is weak-ish.

Jackie Brown. If you're going to homage/pastiche b-movie genres, at least add something really good to it. tho i do like PF, RD and even the Kill Bill films. Death Proof was pretty weak, save Rosario.

no joke i was thinking about starting this thread last night

*~*~*this is how i rate*~*~*

1. kill bill 1
2. kill bill 2
3. death proof (this shit is hella underrate - new york chick in that movie is my boo 4 all time - also the shot in the second part of this where the girls walk into the convenience store and it switches into color and there are all BRIGHT SODAS AND COLORFUL CHIP BAGS is one of my favorite things ever)
4. reservoir dogs
5. pulp fiction

havent seen jackie brown

jackie brown ownes, it's the only one that feels like a 'real' movie 2 me

otm. robert forster and pam grier scenes only time i thought i was watching actual people in any of these films.

death proof is good but that twenty minute diner conversation w/the second set of girls is painful to watch

^yeah maybe but i liked it as a self-homage to the opening scene of reservoir dogs

ending of pulp fiction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ending of reservoir dogs

like, death proof fits pretty well into his filmography if you follow his career down the line - obv the kill bills were his 'epics', but death proof doesn't stray very far from his aesthetic and as a compact, 'trashy' film it's really great i think

the end of reservoir dogs is pretty good, if not predictable

jackie brown, for robert forster and pam grier

also for the out of sight crossover

also jackie brown has best use of music imo

this is a dope poll btw

kill bill volumes 1 & 2 fight scenes poll

i think maybe my favorite is when the jersey girl in death proof gives a lap dance to "jeepster"

also for the out of sight crossover

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i forgot about this! fuck, that rules. michael keaton rules.

yeah Michael Keaton is really well used in that

jackie brown ownes, it's the only one that feels like a 'real' movie 2 me

i think this is true, but "real movies" aren't tarantino's specialty, it's not what he's actually good at. it's obvious, but i think pulp fiction best got what he does. it's the "if you only see one quentin tarantino movie" movie.

J0rdan, see Jackie Brown.

reservoir>jackie>pulp>>>the rest

Death Proof easily.

gotta good feeling bout his next movie, that war saga,though

not much of a tarantino fan but jackie brown is a really good film.

I watched RD & PF so many times on so much weed in high school that it's hard for me to differentiate b/w the two: It's one globulous circular narrative stuffed w/ pop-culture and b-movie references, 70's pop, snappy dialog & the good old ultraviolence. I guess I'll go with Pulp, since it does seem like the magnum opus, even if the kick ass action scenes in KB1 & DP have me stroking my beard a little.

jackie brown is a really good film

it's also a great book (rum punch)

i was amazed at how completely dead-on the casting and flow of the movie fit my concept of the characters (except for deniro as louis - louis is a much bigger character in the book and his stumblebumness is less obvious)

In a Playboy interview, he talked of smoking cannabis and using ecstasy while filming Kill Bill.[28]

He was thanked in the liner notes of Nirvana's final studio album In Utero although the spelling of his name is incorrect. Tarantino returned the favor by thanking Nirvana on the Pulp Fiction soundtrack, along with the message "RIP Kurt".

def looking forward to inglorious basterds

KB1-Jackie B-Death Proof-Pulp-Res Dogs - KB2

Jackie Brown, for being full of characters I actually cared about, although I still recall the giddy heist-without-the-heist thrills of Reservoir Dogs feeling like some kinda revelation.

Pulp Fiction

Just watched Pulp Fiction again last week with my 19 year old son. It's an immaculately scripted film and a shitload of fun.

no Star Trek film?

Ha! I've been saying here and elsewhere for the past few years that Kael's life could make a great fictionalized film. Hopefully it's not about this one guy he ridicules three or four times in his book--really nasty stuff--and towards whom he obviously still bears a major grudge.

Kael's gonna kill that guy on-screen, I guarantee it.

https://tenor.com/view/trump-shrug-smile-idk-i-dont-know-gif-16515321

really nasty stuff

Imagine thats a gif of trump shrugging

I've always thought KB 2 was far better than KB 1.

Kael wrote a novel?

Oh, I like this idea a lot.

A rep theatre here has a Friday night series running based on his book: Taxi Driver, Sisters, Deliverance, Escape from Alcatraz, and Dirty Harry. Planned on seeing this first--Friday night, packed theatre probably--but a terrible storm quashed that. (The manager said they still drew 80 people.) Skipped Sisters, may see one or two or all three of the others, although I wish I hadn't just watched them while reading the book.

I'll say it again: if the above is true, Meryl Streep has to play Kael. I actually think she'd keep some well deserved payback out of it and create something memorable.

Mary Charlotte Wilcox has retired from acting to become a minister, otherwise she'd be in the running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVpPsATDyy0

"I don't languish in that kind of naïveté"--love that whole bit! So that's what her name was...maybe the only thing she ever did on the show? She definitely caught some of Kael's manner of speaking.

My post above doesn't make sense--should read "Planned on seeing Taxi Driver..."

Holly Hunter is a little older than Kael was in 1979, but she'd be fun.

I always kind hoped he would do Kill Bill 3 with Vivica Fox's daughter going after Uma, but this will hopefully be a much better movie to go out on.

I liked the Kellow bio well enough, but I worry about a Kael "biopic." So much of a writer's life is writing. Once she settled into Shawn's New Yorker her life was watching movies, with her daughter as faithful amanuensis. If Tarantino (or anybody) created a work of fiction about a formidably intelligent female writer in the 1950s experimenting with fiction and theater who marries a gay man, this would be worth watching.

To be clear: a chapter of her life which a director would fictionalize.

Given his previous film, he'll set it up so she ends up going out to Kalispell, forcing Cimino to focus and saving New Hollywood (with guns).

I could imagine a great movie more in the “hang out” style of most of once upon a time in hollywood.

The movie will end with her watching Reservoir dogs

I thought of guns too--an alternate ending where she just blows away Renata Adler. (Still alive...sorry, that's in bad taste.)

Holly Hunter is a little older than Kael was in 1979, but she'd be fun.

I could see that, yeah--Kael liked Hunter. Maybe a couple of other actresses she really liked too: Joan Cusack or Sigourney Weaver. (Not Debra Winger, though, I don't think.)

Tagline: "You won't see it a second time."

Nice!

LOL

I could imagine a great movie more in the “hang out” style of most of once upon a time in hollywood.

― omar little,

she won't let you finish lunch until you agree to knock Shoah off your top ten.

Forgive me, since I'm knee deep in Biskind's New Hollywood book right now, so I wouldn't mind a revisionist take where Kael just blows all of the misogynist fucks away. Though that would end up wiping out half of the decades best movies.

So that's what her name was...maybe the only thing she ever did on the show?

She was a featured player in the last seasons of SCTV, usually playing a woman several decades her senior (as she did in that clip).

her life was watching movies

In homage to Kiarostami, the Tarantino film is going to be one reel of her in close-up watching Bonnie and Clyde, then a reel of her watching Last Tango, then Nashville...

Then The Fury ...

Then Batman...

Kael wrote a novel?

Calling her a novelist puzzles me as well. Maybe they're thinking of Renata Adler, who wrote two.

Kael did write (or attempted to write) plays iirc

yep

This Peter Bradshaw piece has a couple of good lines:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/mar/16/quentin-tarantino-next-film-critic-pauline-kael?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Pauline Kael isn’t going to be putting her bare feet up on the car dashboard in this film. At least I don’t think so.

I like this suggestion from a friend (as to who might play Kael): Laura Linney.

That's kinda brilliant. Not sure who else I'd even suggest.

Christian Bale?

Random thought: I like Tarantino a lot, but nothing makes me more certain that a film is going to be embarassing bullshit than the words "influenced by Quentin Tarantino".

Oh, definitely.

Pretty much ... the gap between him and his imitators is about as vast as any I can imagine.

Tho, to be fair, the only movies I think we're talking about when it comes to "Tarantino imitators" are Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, no?

That

xp, Tarantino ruined dickwit testosterone film school kids

Pauline Kael isn’t going to be putting her bare feet up on the car dashboard in this film. At least I don’t think so.

🥱🥱🥱

Tho, to be fair, the only movies I think we're talking about when it comes to "Tarantino imitators" are Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, no?

― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.),

It's a good question. Are there Jackie Brown heirs running around?

Tho, to be fair, the only movies I think we're talking about when it comes to "Tarantino imitators" are Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, no?

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Out of Sight had Michael Keaton playing the exact same character. You could make the argument that it is more of an Elmore Leonard thing, but I think Tarantino was the driving force behind the uptick in Leonard adaptations.

xp

Leonard was an excellent genre/movie writer who never earned his worth until Tarantination, which is another tick in Quentin's box for me but also really telling cos QT's Leonard adaptations are the worst possible adaptations of Leonard's work

do you consider Jackie Brown a bad movie or just not great as an adaptation?

i think most of Tarantino's movies are good to great, as movies. i was thinking about this between the bus stop and home: the thing that makes QT a bad influence for me is his winkingness. i'm not even sure that makes the films he's made himself bad. Jackie Brown is a great movie. but people who ape his style generally make shit

Leonard's stuff seems so downbeat to me and i don't think Tarantino can do downbeat. MR MAJESTYK (1974) is way better than any QT adaptation of Leonard imo at least in terms of articulating Leonard's vibe but probly also in terms of being a better movie, maybe

I'd say this is due for a re-poll but may as well wait the four or so years until the Kael movie is released.