Brass Eye / Chris Morris...

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Genius? Madman? Anti-social lunatic or incisive media-prankster?

How have C4 managed to get away with showing it again?

Nick Southall, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

i wish they'd show this in the states! can someone point me to a url of the the program?

chaki, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

the fuss first time round was entirely confected, so second time no one is much bothered

mark s, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I hadn't seen it. It is the funniest thing I've ever seen on television by a million miles. I NEVER laugh out loud at the TV, but I did tonight.

Ronan, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"He raped me anally / pre-natally..."


Nick Southall, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

BBC2 showed The Day Today right before Brasseye too, which was very sweet of them

jamesmichaelward, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

that wasn't the best Day Today episode - do you know if they're going to show the whole series?

Brass Eye - still v. funny the 2nd time round. was paying much more attention to the celebrity talking heads bits after they all claimed of being duped into appearing, and they really were repeating utter rubbish.

michael, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

oh and the focus group was fantastic: 'Is it ok to have sex with this 3 year old girl now she's 21?'

michael, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I have a feeling BBC2 are going to show the whole series of TDT (maybe even both series) and then maybe the last Alan Partridge series too because there's a new Alan Partridge thing coming up soon in the future or something. This information maybe wrong - I'm sure I heard this somewhere but I have NO IDEA where.

jamesmichaelward, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

re: Day Today - cool! i'm looking forward to the 'Eat My Goal!' episode already

chaki - don't think there's a site for the show (but the series is now on DVD if that helps) but is a site about Chris Morris, partly written in his style. the CD on Warp of selected sketches from the Blue Jam radio show is good too

michael, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

3rd time for me: In some of the sleb endorsements you can see most of them thinking "What the fuck?" at the end of each clip. How they talk them into reading the next bit I would love to see.

Graham, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

It is brilliant, but I never found the Brass Eye special that funny, not as much so as the original series. It's almost too dystopian to laugh at.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"I have a feeling BBC2 are going to show the whole series of TDT (maybe even both series) and then maybe the last Alan Partridge series too because there's a new Alan Partridge thing coming up soon in the future or something. This information maybe wrong - I'm sure I heard this somewhere but I have NO IDEA where."

I think this is correct.. BBC2 are having some kind of "Alan Partridge Season" where they'll be showing the whole of Day Today, followed by Knowing Me Knowing You, then I'm Alan Partridge, and then at the end of it a brand new second series of I'm Alan Partridge, which is currently being filmed now. In the new series, Lynn is still his PA, Michael the Geordie is working at a service station, and Alan is living in a caravan while his new house is being built (which he intends to share with his new wife, name of character forgotten but she's played by Ameilia Bullmore, who appeared in Jam and first series of Big Train).

Lady Space Pilot, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink


Lady Space Pilot, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
My mate Billy, who's posted here a couple of times, wrote this paper for a conference a while ago. We've recently been discussing Morris' work a lot, with a view to maybe collaborating on an article for Stylus about his Blue Jam/Jam work. The imminant release of The Day Today on DVD should add yet more fuel to discussion of Morris, who's rumoured to be working on a sitcom with Charlie Brooks of TV Go Home.

So yeah; Chris Morris - semiotic terrorist, visionary, comedian, sick idiot?

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think the availability of his stuff in the DVD era is his undoing. 'Brass Eye' was really powerful in '97 cos you felt it would never be seen again. It doesn't seem all that funny now; and the paedo one suffered from massive anticipation. I think it's indicative of general cynicism that darkness is as overvalued as it is amongst a lot of comedy fans.

Strachey, Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

(from Cook'd and Bomb'd)

As anyone who has been perusing the media sections of various broadsheet newspapers and a couple of comedy websites recently will be aware, quite a bit of information about the upcoming "Box Of Slice" has leaked out recently. Unfortunately, not all of it is necessarily that accurate. Some of it is close to the mark, some of it is obvious guesswork, and some of it was rather amusingly lifted from flippant off-topic comments on our forums! So, to stop this feeding on itself any further and to prevent the likelihood of the forum discussion of "In Bed With MeDinner" being mistaken for a leaked copy of the script of episode five, here's the current state of play as we understand it, pieced together from a couple of normally reliable sources:

Apparently, the six part series is no longer titled "Box Of Slice" but will be transmitted as "Nathan Barley" (the name of the lead character, who will already be familiar to readers of TV Go Home), which some sources had been suggesting was the official title all along. Although January is a distinct possibility, no firm date for transmission has yet been set, and it's unlikely that one will be announced in the immediate future. Contrary to rumours, it is not a sitcom as such and has a vague developing storyline that will presumably be lampooning the vacuous self-centred world of technology-obsessed young 'creatives'. The series is a Talkback production in association with Zeppotron, written by Charlie Brooker and Chris Morris, directed by Chris Morris with director of photography Danny Cohen, and produced by Derren Schlesinger.

Despite what some reports have claimed, Nathan is not 'pornography obsessed' and neither does he work at a magazine called 'Sugar Rape'. The series does apparently feature a magazine called 'Sugar Ape' (not to be confused with long-forgotten Hanna-Barbera cartoon The Great Grape Ape, equally long-forgotten "jam" working title "Apes And Music", or 'Sugar Sugar' by The Archies), but Nathan doesn't work there. Whether or not it's a central feature or just been crowbarred in to facilitate an easy joke about mishearing it as 'Sugar Rape', though, is another question. Nathan isn't being joined by a sensible receptionist 'resembling the Lucy Davis character from The Office', an upper-class girl with a cocaine habit, or an electroclash band called The Necks. There is one character who does work as a receptionist, but apparently that's as close as the above gets, although there will be no official revelations about the main characters until the official press release arrives.

Although clearly deriving some of its inspiration from the 'scenes' in the places in question, the series is not explicitly set in either Hoxton or Shoreditch, and an insider has assured us that "you won't need to know anything whatsoever about that whole 'world' to get it. It's about characters and situations rather than references, and everything in the programme has been completely made up". Hopefully this will indeed be the case, as the world could do without another "Shoreditch Twat" or "I Am Not An Animal". It's also reported that there are no pranks or tabloid-baiting shock laughs involved, and that the last thing it could be described as is another BES-style "the satire that had to be made!!".

As for it sounding like "an updated Absolutely Fabulous for the Noughties", that was just a quote lifted from one poster taking the piss out of another on Verbwhores, and the person who posted it is certainly not an 'insider'! However, one real insider did call it "a comedy about young idiots", if that helps. Although in a broad sense that description does sound disturbingly close to "Here Come The Double Deckers".

Thankfully though, there's no 'Doughnut', 'Tiger' or 'Spring' amongst the main cast, which is reportedly as follows:

Nicholas Burns - Nathan Barley
Julian Barratt - Dan Ashcroft
Claire Keelan - Claire Ashcroft
Ben Wishaw - Pingu
Richard Ayoade - Ned
Spencer Brown - Rufus
Charlie Condou - Jonatton (sic)
Nina Sosanya - Sasha
Rhys Thomas - Toby
Noel Fielding - Jones
David Hoyle - Doug Rocket

So, that - and the fact that there is said to be a distinct absence of flashy computer effects - is as much as we know for the moment (which is, admittedly, a fair amount). Obviously it's difficult to draw any firm conclusions based on any of the above. Yes, ideally nobody should draw any firm conclusions until they've actually watched the finished show, but realistically it's impossible to avoid doing so. Much of this sounds very encouraging indeed - it's certainly quite far removed from what a lot of us round here were expecting (or in some cases fearing), and this could well prove to be a refreshing break from the tiresome post-"jam" tradition of non-jokes and arty camerawork that has ruled the roost for far too long. Then again, were the people who claimed to have seen scenes in which Nathan stared at a woman's crotch while he was on the phone just making it up? What about the presence of current 'ambient' comedy favourite Julian Barratt and the similarly inclined Verbwhores favourite Richard Ayoade, whose track record hardly suggests a break with tradition (or indeed being much cop, but that's a personal opinion and it would be nice to be proved wrong)? Will the setting and subject matter really be as relevant to those of us who have no experience of such creatives and still battle with tape walkmans in an iPodless world (or indeed live in Cramlington)? Will we all be taken for Jive Suckers? Well, come on, you didn't expect us not to hum and harr over leaked info, did you???

We've been here quite a few times before, of course, and while people have been getting understandably frustrated and jaded with recent Chris Morris projects, maybe everyone involved in this show is as keen for change as we are. Well, it's not possible for anyone else to be quite that keen, but there's always room for a bit of reckless optimism. Roll on the not-yet-fixedth of Possibly January...

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

While I've obviously been looking forward to this series for a wee while and with certain mild trepidation, I'm quite glad I've steered well clear of Cook'd and Bomb'd and their ilk where they've clearly been anticipating, second-guessing, denigrating, hyping, sniping and back-piping this show like thunder for ever.

I really liked I Am Not An Animal. Maybe if this show is as 'bad' as that one, I'll like it too.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

excellent news!

Also, Patrick Marber (of The Day Today as Peter O'Hanarha-hanrahan/Jaques-'Jaques' Liverot/Chapman Baxter) wrote the upcoming movie Closer.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Really! All of a sudden I'm interested in this film now. (Every time I hear the title of it I just think, "Joy Division?")

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

did Marber write the play as well?

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah michael - cook'd and bomb'd was just the first thing i found when i googled "box of slice".

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Patrick Marber is a fairly well respected playright now but as far as i know he's not a "comic" playright.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
On The Hour (radio version of The Day Today from 1991) currently being repeated on BBC7. (23:00)

"Panic as European Average falls below European Average".

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 1 September 2005 07:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
and again.

there was some talk (which may have been a real-life conversation) about the bbc tapes of On The Hour being different from the original broadcast. anyone know details? (i'd thought one of lee or marber had asked for their stuff to be removed but i could be mistaken. both get a credit on the bbc7 repeats)

koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

lee and herring's agent had a problem and pulled their stuff.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I think the story was that the Lee and Herring stuff had been removed from the commercially released tapes of the show after some dispute. I presume the BBC7 repeats are the original broadcast versions including that material.

mms (mms), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

This is also why in most Lee and Herring's work there are (barely) veiled gags about Armando Ianucci and (especially) Patrick Marber.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

well, marber is a credit-guzzler but i don't think l&h fell out with everyone involved.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

lionel cosgrave = invented by lee and herring.

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I think perhaps a lot of the early Alan Partridge stuff was largely down to them and they've not been properly credited for this

Quotes from an interview at

OTT: Sorry to go over old ground, but we'd like to know a little more about your involvement with On the Hour. Does it bother you that people often seem to forget about your contributions?

RICHARD HERRING: If they do then it's a little irksome, but inevitable and also the reason that we ended up pulling out 'cos we weren't getting the credit. I think it would have been even more annoying if we'd done The Day Today 'cos the same thing would have been true. It's annoying when people think we've been influenced by The Day Today or even things like Father Ted or The League of Gentlemen, because in fact our work on On the Hour was an influence on those people (a bit). It's a shame we haven't worked with some of those people again, though I'm hopeful about working with Coogan and it's only him and Chris Morris that I would love to work with (and Rebecca Front obviously, but I am working with her).

STEWART LEE: I don't really care to be honest. Time will show (Patrick) Marber to be a dishonest opportunist and a liar, and Chris (Morris) didn't really know what was going on.

Certainly some bitterness with Marber there.

mms (mms), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Marber was slagged off rotten frequently in Fist Of Fun's 'too fast to read unless you pause and jog-frame the video' texty bits back in the day. 'Look at his curmudgeonly Cornish face!'

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink


Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yes, the L&H stuff wasn't on the BBC tapes, but the original broadcast stuff you can get on most sh@r£ sites, along with the Wayne Carr/GLR shows.

The ones they are currently repeating on BBC 7 include the L&H stuff:

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

'Look at his curmudgeonly Cornish face!'

HAHAHA!! fantastic.

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Patrick Marber always seems to play cunts.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink


Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Downloaded Brass Eye off BT the other day and really, really loved it. Total genius.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i'm torrenting the r1 shows. 12 days it says -- which would be ok, only i'm leeching wifi from the sindowsil...

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ok, 11 days now.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
hurrah, got them.

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

was it Morris that made a joke about 'Gadaffi The Musical' years ago? seems very familiar.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink


a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
not really evading charges of going over same old turf wid dis.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 07:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Who cares, at least it's not more Borat.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I prefer the imagery from the newspaper columns and the Blue Jam monologues to stay in my head - My Wrongs wasn't that great, was it? Still, it's worth another bash at the short film genre.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the Richard Geefe columns were written years ago in the guardian. maybe it's just an adaptation that he didn't have much to do with. i think he would want to direct any new project he wanted to do.

nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 10:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

check out the previous, it's obviously a shit student film that someone's stuck on IMDB

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Business Data for
Second Class Male (2006)

£500 (estimated)

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ha, yes - virtually no IMDB records for any of them. I thought Morris was perhaps using a bunch of unknowns for this project but, no, I think you're right.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

haha fuck, great revive then.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Richard Geefe was in The Observer, not The Guardian.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

David Jatt looks exactly like David Cross circa Mr Show 1996

Sex Sexual (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 02:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Three hours of Chris Morris highlights

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 October 2016 12:27 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Despite evident sympathy for his beleaguered protagonists, there’s also an uncomfortable sense of Morris punching down. Moses and his crew are consistently the butt of the joke, men who believe that horses can talk and klaxons can summon dinosaurs. Riz Ahmed’s lead in Four Lions was misguided but maintained a certain dignity that’s largely absent here

Except, with the exception of the Riz Ahmed character, most of the comedy in Four Lions centred on how unbelievably stupid the protagonists were.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

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