Ricardo Montalban RIP

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snoball, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

pwned. :(

Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

nooooooo! :-(

RIP

we can be slaves, or we can be..lichens! (latebloomer), Thursday, 15 January 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP retardo montalban

mark taylor, mark dickhead morelike (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 15 January 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link

from imdb:

"In 1993, he had a 9 1/2 hour surgical operation on his spine to repair an old back injury he received while filming Across the Wide Missouri (1951). He has been in constant pain ever since and confined to a wheelchair as a paraplegic."

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Well that does suck. Death was probably something of a relief.

thirdalternative, Thursday, 15 January 2009 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Everyone owes it to themselves to watch Mystery Street - a tremendous John Sturges noir from 1950 with unbelievably handsome Montalban as the lead.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/Mystery_Street.JPG/200px-Mystery_Street.JPG

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 15 January 2009 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Once again, Kirk outlives Khan. There is no God.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't Kirk meet God in Star Trek V?

imagine a super-serious, really noir mcgruff (stevie), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

turned out god liked star wars :(

admin log special guest star (DG), Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

God was wrong

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I've still never seen any of his film performances before 1964 (Ford's Cheyenne Autumn), ie the MGM Latino hunk years. I have reserved Border Incident and Battleground at the library.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/arts/15montalban.html

In 1971, troubled by the way he was asked to portray Mexicans, he helped to found Nosotros, an advocacy group for Latinos working in the movie and television industry. As president of the organization, he later said: “I put my career aside and dedicated my heart and soul for over a year and a half to this new organization, going to radio and television to talk about it, talking to directors, producers, writers. I received tremendous support, but there were also some negative repercussions. I was accused of being a militant and as a result I lost jobs.”

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

All the obits stinting on this role:

"I did it because I like chimpanzees... I did it because I hate those who try to alter destiny, which is the unalterable will of God. And if it is man's destiny to one day be dominated, then oh, please God, let him be dominated by one such as you."

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Border Incident is pretty good.

God was wrong
That's supposed to go on the James Mason thread.

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

cute anecdote:

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2009_01_14.html#016521

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I rewatched Wrath of Khan last night (as one does) with Nick Meyer's commentary track and his stories about working with Montalban -- as he put it, a nearly wet-behind-the-ears director vs. someone who had already done what he had over the many years -- were good fun. There was a part where Meyer felt in the first scenes shot that Montalban was too over-the-top to start with, and suggested playing it cool at the beginning -- which Montalban loved as an idea, adding, "That's why I need a director!"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Pauline Kael in her Wrath of Khan review:

"Montalban, who was born in Mexico in 1920, is one of those potentially major actors who never got the roles that might have made them movie stars. He appeared to have everything else -- a marvelous camera face, the physique of a trained dancer, talent, a fine voice (he could even sing), warmth, and great charm. Maybe the charm was a drawback -- it may have made him seem too likable, a lightweight (though it didn't stop Charles Boyer). In Montalban's first English-language picture, M-G-M's Fiesta, in 1947, which featured Esther Williams as a matador, he danced with Cyd Charisse. M-G-M next had him dancing with Charisse and Ann Miller in a Kathryn Grayson-Frank Sinatra film called The Kissing Bandit; it was said that the dancing was added after the executives saw the movie -- they wanted to give the customers something. He kept working -- in pictures such as On an Island with You, with Charisse and Esther Williams, and Neptune's Daughter, and Sombrero, starring Vittorio Gassman, and the low-budget My Man and I, in which he played a sexy handyman and displayed his pectorals, and Latin Lovers, in which he carted Lana Turner around in a tango. He had secondary parts in Sayonara and Hemingway's Adventures of a Young Man, and in Cheyenne Autumn, and he brought conviction to every role that anyone could bring conviction to, but, after almost twenty years in Hollywood, there he was in 1966 in The Singing Nun, with Debbie Reynolds, and, with Lana again, in Madame X. He seems to have lived a (lucrative) horror story, especially when you think of the TV commercials and his ever-ready smile on 'Fantasy Island.' It may be that Khan in 'Space Seed' was the best big role he had ever got, and that the continuation of the role in The Wrath of Khan is the only validation he has ever had of his power to command the big screen."

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

That review is one of my favorites of hers.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Forgot about The Singing Nun.

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://howardsternbits.com/play/570/

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Thursday, 15 January 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

morbz i am <3ing on this thread boo

and what, Thursday, 15 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

"Welcome to Fantasy Island", I can still hear his accent.

Hoping he knew the Lord and praying for comfort for his family.

I hope he was a believer and I pray that he understood the meaning of salvation.

and what, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

An absolutely fantastic actor. RIP. The disturbingly prescient TCM* is showing a block of his film next Friday the 23rd including the best film I've ever seen him in, Border Incident @ noon CST. And for a glimpse of Hollywood's BEYOND fucked-up racial politics, check out his (Kael is right) still-sensitive performance as Nakamura in Sayonara.

As for Kael's review, any sense of Charles Boyer's lightweightedness was destroyed by 1941 with Gaslight. And Madame X is a fine film although Montalblan plays the requisite baddie there.

* Or did they change the schedule after his death?

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I got home last night and TCM had him in some MGM doc

(I'm pretty sure they changed the sked)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.tcm.com/movienews/index/?cid=221223

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah ok. Thanx!

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

KJB, you gotta see the original British Gaslight with Anton Walbrook.

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

^ yes, way better!

maybe I'll bring my VHS copy to Austin :)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

As for Kael's review, any sense of Charles Boyer's lightweightedness was destroyed by 1941 with Gaslight.

But she's saying that Boyer SEEMED lightweight early in his career (she's a huge "Earrings of Madame De..." fan).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Why ppl didn't realize that today's Superstar Toms shd've stayed lightweight, ya got me.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP Mr. Rourke

BTW, I guess Julie (Tattoo's kinda sorta sub from '78 or so) is the last of the Fantasy Island principles left.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 January 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Why ppl didn't realize that today's Superstar Toms shd've stayed lightweight, ya got me

I had no idea you were a Matthew McConaughey fan.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

KJB, you gotta see the original British Gaslight with Anton Walbrook.

^ yes, way better!

I've always been ascared to see it for that very reason. I'd hate for Cukor's amazing one to get eclipsed. But bring away, Morbs.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 15 January 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

KJB, you live in Austin?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Part of the year, yes.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 15 January 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

“Ricardo Montalban is to improvisational acting what Mount Rushmore is to animation.” -John Cassavetes

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 January 2009 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link

John Cassavetes was to entertainment what Norman Mailer was to humility...

hey, Malcolm McDowell did the Ricardo role in the Fantasy Island rehash. ONE KILLED SPOCK AND THE OTHER KILLED KIRK.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 January 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

went to see wrath of khan tonight and everyone burst into applause when montalban's name came up in the credits, and again when he made his entrance. it was nice.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 17 January 2009 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link

and again when he said "it is very cold...in space."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 17 January 2009 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

saw him in Anthony Mann's Border Incident last night, muy guapo tho a dully virtuous federale role. The movie suffers from most of the other Mexicans being either bandito caricatures or played by obvious Anglo actors. Fine b&w shadowy look, nasty violence and good heavies (Howard da Silva and Charles McGraw).

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

who remembers the Spy Magazine TV special in the late-80's (hosted by a pre-sitcom Jerry Seinfeld) where they did that experiment to gauge the importance of celebrities?...to wit, a hidden camera was placed in the ceiling of an art gallery, which is teeming with patrons...from a door in the corner of the room, Ricardo Montalban enters the space...one by one, the gallery-goers crowd around him until he has the attention of the entire throng....from another door diagonally opposite the first one, a person is seen wheeling in a cart of donuts...one person makes the move from Ricardo to the donuts, and another person, until ultimately the entire group is crowded around the donut cart while Ricardo Montalban stands alone in his corner...what a sport!

henry s, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Nicholas Meyer's commentary track for The Wrath of Khan is unexpectedly smart! He's an erudite man, alluding to Chekhov (the playwright not the doctor) and O'Neil, doesn't end sentences with prepositions, and does an elegant riff at the end on the perils of being remembered for your most popular work.

On Montalban: "This guy shoulda been playing King Lear and here he was on `Fantasy Island' with one hand tied behind his back, his mind a million miles away."

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 February 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a great commentary, one of my favorites. I enjoy the moment when he talks about being nervous when asking Montalban to tone down his overall performance except for key moments. only to be surprised at how appreciative Montalban was for the direction. Good reminder of how the directing/acting dynamic can meet in the middle just so.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 February 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha, well, I see now I already said that upthread. One more time etc.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 February 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Unfortunately, for me RM's most memorable role involved the solemn intonation of the words "rich Corinthian leather" in describing the 1975 Chrysler Cordoba.

Aimless, Thursday, 11 February 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

He was great in the Apes movies

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 12 February 2010 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link

*looks up preposition*

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/ending-prepositions.aspx

argue with the writer, alfred, im hopeless with this stuff

rankin ass (tremendoid), Friday, 12 February 2010 06:59 (fourteen years ago) link

prepositions are great things to end sentences with!

snoocki (s1ocki), Friday, 12 February 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks for the tip on the commentary though, i'll check it out!

snoocki (s1ocki), Friday, 12 February 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

"ADMIRAL Kirk! AD-miral."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link

"I wish to go on... hurting you."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

A marvelous interview (it hasn't been cited here before). He discusses exposition, every actor's horror; the travails of being a Mexican actor in the biz; and about making a living. "You're only an actor when you're acting. Never turn down a role unless it offends your moral principles."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUuIvPbMFjE

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

Now that's sharp.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

whoa at mention of Gene Lockhart (big Orson Welles hater and reactionary).

I heard Teri Garr say she was told the same by Nicholson. "Teri, actors act."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

born 100 years ago today

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link


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