I didnt, but its not an app so much as a subscription i pay a dodge provider for, not sure its offered overseas (but im sure theres local versions)
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link
there is a torrent site I'm a member of that will give me a few months IPTV package for a small donation, but it seems like too much choice to me - you could be channel surfing for hours without seeing anything worth a shit!
― calzino, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link
anyways whiney raging against self congratulatory middlebrow tastes for prestige tv is like if he was still ranting abt chillwave; the world has moved on. the trend in tv has moved to something way trashier and closer to network tv pre-netflix disruption in quality of writing and acting. i wasn’t crazy about that much prestige tv but like compare ‘the crown’ to like ‘downtown abbey’ (which for all the criticism you can make of it had p sharp writing and was a hit during the peak of prestige tv) the attitude of the viewer is more “fuck it ill watch 16 hours of this” than “heh i am so smart i am like reading Jane Austen”― flopson, Friday, January 22, 2021 4:11 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― flopson, Friday, January 22, 2021 4:11 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This may very well be true, but you would never know it by the IMPORTANCE that media/Twitter still put on TV shows
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link
https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/9/2/21417604/bottle-episode-evolution-network-tv-breaking-bad
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link
ya the This Is Important And Here’s Why framing for every conceivable culturaL product seems here to stay
― flopson, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, January 22, 2021 4:22 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
my guess is sites like av club are full of nostalgia for golden age prestige tv. like this (also: lol)
As we approach the 10th anniversary of Mad Men’s “The Suitcase” on Saturday
― flopson, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
flops, all those shows are currently running! if you're arguing that there's not a rush to make more of them, I'll concede that again but I thought i noted as much with "the market has changed." I may have misunderstood your point.
I may transfer to an IPTV package in the next year or so; this is all new stuff for me!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link
xp- yeah my arg is they’re not making new ones to replace em. once a show is proven successful it can run its course but they aren’t taking risks on new projects of that kind
― flopson, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link
fair enough.
A counterpoint though: the sudden entry of disney/apple/peacock; the renewed push by CBS as Paramount; the flop of Quibi and (fuck, please) the passing of COVID in the coming year means that the common wisdom of "bigger isn't necessarily better" and "passive watching rules" may rapidly flip flop back to the Mad Men stratagem as stations try to carve out space in Netflix's living room.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
also hbo is DEFINITELY pumping out hour long dramas but they're all in collaboration with European partners and generally run six episodes.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
I think Beforeigners has the potential to be the new Wire ...
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:42 (three years ago) link
The second story of The Killing (seasons 3 & 4) were up there with The Wire for me as well
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
was that the Sarsgaard era?
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
I remember really liking that one season anyway
Succession seems to me like the most obv omission from flopson's list
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
Self-consciously prestige, also much much more shakespearean than Wire or Sopranos
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
it's the one with the homeless kids ... and Joel Kinnaman made me want to marry him
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
Beforeigners is the Norwegian time travelling cop thing, right?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
lol Succession is prob great for folks that like the Sopranos and can stomach watching such horrible people which ... I couldn't. Maybe if we hadn't spent 4 years with Trump as President I would be able to, but no.
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
oh yeah that was good. kinnaman adorable throughout xps
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
Yes, the Norwegian one with the Viking cop and the transtime community and the bougie porridge cafe
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link
lol I have never heard of this show and it sounds unpossible
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link
"Television Programs without Horrible People" sounds like a good thread to start and pretty challenging to name.
Sesame Street = Oscar the GrouchMr Rogers = I heard Daniel Striped Tiger killed some guy down by the bus depot
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link
i will give beforeigners a look. there's too much stuff!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
Succession rules
― flopson, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
is Succession... a comedy? I kinda feel like it is?
it’s more like Arrested Development than Sopranos tho. milo was correct when he said all the good shows are comedies now
― flopson, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
yeah I think it's best appreciated as a bone-dry black comedy
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
It isn't that I want to watch shows without any horrible people, it's that Succession is like, almost entirely horrible people. It's like, I don't give a fuck about any of you.
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
yeah, I couldn't deal with Arrested Development either ...
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link
I mean I called it shakespearean but it's more like his immediate uh successors who were a lot less humanist
sarahell, I think that response is 100% understandable
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link
well succession is genuinely straight up Lear!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link
I don't mean to wag my finger at those who can reconcile their hardcore Bernie Bro ethics and gaining great pleasure from immersing themselves in the fictional lives of "the enemy" ... I just can't do it, without some character(s) representing positive traits or sympathetic circumstances
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link
xp but also relevant to sarahell's pointyeah the set-up is obviously taken from Lear, but none of the kids are exactly Cordelia
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link
tbrr a large part of the enjoyment of watching Succession is watching these assholes eat themselves, so to speak
the kids take turns playing at being cordelia imo
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link
yeah I get it. I just feel like people like that get too much attention IRL.
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
i can't argue with you there.
hey for anyone missing Succession, consider trying CALL MY AGENT which is on Netflix, a really enjoyable shitty people doing work comedy in French. Focused on the movie industry.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
i wouldn't say the attention that succession pays to its characters is good attention. the show does a pretty good job of stripping back the flash and glamor of rich person life, showing that even though the roys can do whatever they want, they're miserable fucks.
― voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link
Xp and then catch A Very Secret Service which is a stylish 60s-set spy farce
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link
Fuck, like i needed more! You recommend that dmac?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link
Times did a breakdown of the current haul of "foreign" cable:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/arts/television/international-losing-alice-gomorrah-flack.html
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:36 (three years ago) link
Yep, its got a v nice vibe going on, def if you liked call my agent (which of course is the only paris-set office comedrama anyone should be boosting this last few years instead of That Other One)
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:08 (three years ago) link
alright i grabbed an episode (and pembrokewhatever) on your recommendation
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
Be good to hear back
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link
Will do here
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link
Lol, maybe do it on the best of 2020 thread, this thread is for the sopranos being shakespearean
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
Methinks the lady doth etc
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
Is this SAG war i see before me
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
Shakespearean
I dont understand what americans mean when they type this word
I am not convinced that they do either
/Pinefox
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, January 22, 2021 1:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I was the one that brought up Shakespeare and I'll take the heat if I'm wrong, but feel free to sub in "tragedy with flawed male protagonist who destroys everything around them and everyone dies at the end" if you so choose.
― Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 23 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link