Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

How a candle works.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:31 (twelve years ago) link

Practically everything.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:20 (twelve years ago) link

that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character.

ILX MOD (musically), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:32 (twelve years ago) link

DO you have a Mac?

The best things about macs is that making any character is stupid easy.

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Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (twelve years ago) link

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Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (twelve years ago) link

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If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:11 (twelve years ago) link

That (most) BMWs are named according to engine size (I was a car freak as a child but never knew this until being informed by a German flatmate while I was a PhD student).

i.e. 318 = 3 series 1.8 litre engine etc.

krakow, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:54 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't know that black and green olives are identical, just different stage of maturity, until a few months ago.

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago. Likewise Lipps Inc.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:59 (twelve years ago) link

I've got a mac and I still don't know how to do any of, um, ^ those ^

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:01 (twelve years ago) link

I end up going to wikipedia and copy-and-pasting when I want unusual characters

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:02 (twelve years ago) link

The cows-and-bulls thing, plus Adam Ant, are the only things on this thread that I do know

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:03 (twelve years ago) link

how to cook an artichoke properly

nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (twelve years ago) link

(a julia child recipe steered me right)

nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (twelve years ago) link

How to tie my shoes (velcro, you see..)

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:12 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago.

^^^ this. Same with Sandy Shaw.

NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

Fay Fife of the Rezillos.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

(i.e. it's a pun on "I am from the town of Fife, my good fellow" in broad scots)

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

What's the Adam Ant pun? Adam Ant = adamant? If so... pretty lame pun.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

That's it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Tell that to Lai Mpun, the lead singer of Bangkok's Phleng Chat.

I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:45 (twelve years ago) link

I am 33 and didn't know any of these things. Wait - how the hell DOES a candle work?!

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Same with Sandy Shaw.
OK I was 32 when I found out this was a pun.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know how to explain it but i used to think chickens had a really weird way of "mating", something to do with the rooster's legs. (!!?!?) :)

Ludo, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:56 (twelve years ago) link

"that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character."

^^^Dude, you beat me by a month. Thanks!

I once spent a half hour trying to eject a cd from a Mac before someone finally told me there's an eject button on the keyboard. I was going through all these crazy menus and preferences...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

― filthy dylan, Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:30 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


I did not know that oxen were cattle until about a week ago.

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

loooool one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory.

I think I've done that Mac eject button thing too :(

Pronounced lapels like 'labels' for years until corrected but happily don't dress well enough to use it often

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

My girlfriend was shocked to learn, at the age of 33, that a 'Flea Circus' is actually a rather charming mechanical toy, and is in no way operated by any parasitic insects.

Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

Ismael, at the age of 32, is shocked to learn the same thing. This thread is getting embarrassing

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

WAT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea_circus

Øystein, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory

no but seriously, what is this about?

negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

i mean i can see that there's rarely anything to size them against in the big white antarctic, but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

u could still play tag w/it tho

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

But you could make the same assumption with ostriches in the big yellow desert (or wherever they live), and in that case you'd be right!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

aw no-one said 'where babies come from'

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

I've had a lot of experiences in my adult life with mispronouncing words I understood as part of written text, but hadn't heard aurally in the context of conversation etc. For example, I was well into my twenties before I knew the word "vehement" wasn't pronounced veh-hee-ment. I wish others would politely correct you when you do that instead of letting you blindly sound like an idiot.

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a bit like that, but now I'm in the habit of saying works incorrectly, I can't get out of it. Canal is not pronounced can-el, but there's fuck all I can do about it now.

NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

^ This happens to me all the time too - so much so that I actually now find it quite amusing when I realise, midway through a sentence, that a word I've never heard before is looming at the end. I suppose that people who talk a lot, rather than reading, must find the same with spelling. It only annoys me when some moron uses it as an opportunity to score cheap points (sadly fairly often)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

I was going to start a thread like this, but it was going to be more about 'life lessons' that took you forever to learn, rather than trivia.

Anyway it's taken me this long to fully realize how unreliable first impressions can be when it comes to people.

invisible jet (wanko ergo sum), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

haha

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

TAL have an episode on this in the "best of" section on their wesite. people who thought unicorns were real, etc., lots of awkward silences at cocktail parties: good stuff.

rent, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

i like to tag birds. (runs)

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

There's a penguin here and he wants to say "you didn't touch me ner ner ner"

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

I thought penguins went "weh weh weh"

╓abies, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you couldnt get me in the same room as a ouija board

a country packed with ponies (sunny successor), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

I was about 35 when I figured out Open Sesame = Open Says Me.

Rotgutt, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

i used to think HAZCHEM was a foreign word for danger like Achtung

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

I just figured out, like 2 days ago, that the lyrics are "highway to the danger zone"

(until then, thought they were "I went to to the danger zone")

homosexual II, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

lmao classic

(buoyed is pronounced the wacky way tho right? I’m sure I have heard that)

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:33 (six hours ago) link

The best known Jose in the UK is Jose Mourinho and he’s a Joe-say aiui (Portuguese, innit).

Zho-zay

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:33 (six hours ago) link

That is almost certainly what JiC heard yeah

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:34 (six hours ago) link

Not that Brits are great on this in general, it just happens that mourinho is v famous here. The number of bonkers pronunciations of Jorge Luis Borges you hear - often getting the first name right but then inexplicably switching up so it’s bor-jizz or bor-ghez - and then try getting anyone to accept that the Jorge of Jorge Amado is not said the same way

(Pronunciation of words obv doesn’t matter but refusing to at least try to get names right is rude & kinda racist imo)

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:45 (six hours ago) link

i have probably related this before but i had a film professor at university who pronounced jim jarmusch 'jim yarmusch'

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:56 (six hours ago) link

all of us just nodded like 'yes, yes, of course, we knew that, that's totally normal and what we were expecting because we are smart'

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:56 (six hours ago) link

Was English his first language?

pomenitul, Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:58 (six hours ago) link

Yumpin' Yiminy

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 14:59 (six hours ago) link

the most pleasant way to learn how to pronounce Jorge in Portuguese is to listen to A História De Jorge by Jorge Ben

rob, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:00 (six hours ago) link

tbf to that professor, it is always funny to me that "Walter BenYamin" is for some reason the standard way to pronounce that name in academia

rob, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:00 (six hours ago) link

I should say "in American academia"

rob, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:01 (six hours ago) link

That’s correct tho no? (But it should be valter)

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:02 (six hours ago) link

When I know how the name is supposed to be pronounced in the original language, I have a hard time anglicizing it even when the person was born in an English-speaking country and pronounces it 'wrongly' (not really). I catch myself saying 'Vayn-shtayn' and 'Ep-shtayn', for instance.

pomenitul, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:05 (six hours ago) link

pom yes, he's American.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:06 (six hours ago) link

lol yeah, that's ludicrous.

Btw I'm somewhat ashamed of the fact that I do this.

pomenitul, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:08 (six hours ago) link

it should be valter

yeah that was my point, like saying Mike Foo-coe...or Hore-hay Borcheese

rob, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:10 (six hours ago) link

Oh I see, yeah that is weird

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:12 (six hours ago) link

If it's any comfort, I find anglophones are generally more careful and willing to learn than the French, who are often offended by the suggestion that a phonetic effort might be required.

pomenitul, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:12 (six hours ago) link

I was in a restaurant in Prague once with a guy from LA called Chandler, he asked for Worcestershire sauce but came out with this bizarre mangled stream of consonants. I told him how it was pronounced and also that hey also did you know I am actually from Worcester and I used to walk past the factory every day on my way home from school. He was not impressed at all, in fact he was VERY offended to be corrected on the pronunciation of an English word and maintained that Woorshestershisheyre or w/e was a perfectly correct pronunciation.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:26 (five hours ago) link

lol what a dipshit.

pomenitul, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:27 (five hours ago) link

Watching Stephen Bush and he's just pronounced albeit as ahl-be-it.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:42 (five hours ago) link

(Pronunciation of words obv doesn’t matter but refusing to at least try to get names right is rude & kinda racist imo)

Like English presenters pronouncing the 2020 Booker Prize winner as Shoogy Bain, for instance.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:45 (five hours ago) link

ooft

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:50 (five hours ago) link

Sow crates

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:52 (five hours ago) link

But that’s it, you don’t need to go to far-flung origins - even with idk colm tóibín or whoever there’s this sense of “oh it’s not worth bothering to learn Irish names”

Obviously there are sounds people will have trouble with like the guttural r (different ways of saying r in general) & I’m not saying everyone has to reproduce those but it’s clear when the attempt isn’t even being made or ppl just guess & im like you know you could just look this up? Or ask? Just v disrespectful

(We are way off shockingly old topic but we always are tbf)

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:58 (five hours ago) link

Slight change of direction, Chris Bailey and Ed Kuepper of the Saints were both immigrants, Bailey from Northern Ireland and Kuepper from Germany.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:06 (five hours ago) link

So how do you pronounce the sauce that is Worcestershire?

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:19 (four hours ago) link

Believe there is an Abbott and Costello sketch about that. Will let those who care to search for it

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:28 (four hours ago) link

woos-ter-sher sauce, or usually just woos-ter sauce, the spelling might look complicated but the pronunciation is not.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:38 (four hours ago) link

route/rout is regional in the us

In my experience it's more urban/rural than regional.

cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:55 (three hours ago) link

Watching Stephen Bush and he's just pronounced albeit as ahl-be-it.

― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:42 AM (two hours ago)

wait what? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/albeit

rob, Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:23 (two hours ago) link

Was gonna say...

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:34 (two hours ago) link

Ah, have we found another one? Do Americans say al-be-it and British (apart from Stephen Bush) say all-be-it?

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:35 (two hours ago) link

Aargh, I came to post that too!

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:44 (two hours ago) link

Come on, the guy can't even spell night.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:45 (two hours ago) link

I have just found out that Worcestershire sauce is sold in a paper bag in the USA.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:48 (two hours ago) link

Almost forgot about that!

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:50 (two hours ago) link

I am a US-er and don't think I've ever heard anyone say (you can call me) al-be-it. Not discounting the possibility, though, we love mispronouncing words.

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:50 (two hours ago) link

Is all Worcestershire sauce sold in a paper bag, though? I thought that was just a Lea & Perkins thing. But maybe it's because we have an affinity for putting fermented things in bags here.

(Oh, there's one: only just discovered a couple years back that Worcestershire sauce is fermented.)

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:53 (two hours ago) link

Perkins?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:08 (two hours ago) link

I think my albeit confusion stemmed from misinterpreting Tom's phonetic spelling of "ahl-be-it". That to me reads as awl-be-it not al-b.-it

rob, Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:08 (two hours ago) link

this is why everyone should learn the phonetic alphabet

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:19 (one hour ago) link

Yes, I had the same confusion

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:25 (one hour ago) link

Perkins?


(sic)

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:32 (one hour ago) link

Wayne?

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:34 (one hour ago) link

were you shockingly old when you learned the name of the worcestershire sauce company

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:37 (one hour ago) link

So sorry: Leah & Perkings. Damn autocorrect.

Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:42 (one hour ago) link


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