Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

How a candle works.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Practically everything.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character.

ILX MOD (musically), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

DO you have a Mac?

The best things about macs is that making any character is stupid easy.

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Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

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Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

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If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

That (most) BMWs are named according to engine size (I was a car freak as a child but never knew this until being informed by a German flatmate while I was a PhD student).

i.e. 318 = 3 series 1.8 litre engine etc.

krakow, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Didn't know that black and green olives are identical, just different stage of maturity, until a few months ago.

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago. Likewise Lipps Inc.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've got a mac and I still don't know how to do any of, um, ^ those ^

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

I end up going to wikipedia and copy-and-pasting when I want unusual characters

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

The cows-and-bulls thing, plus Adam Ant, are the only things on this thread that I do know

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

how to cook an artichoke properly

nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

(a julia child recipe steered me right)

nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

How to tie my shoes (velcro, you see..)

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago.

^^^ this. Same with Sandy Shaw.

NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Fay Fife of the Rezillos.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

(i.e. it's a pun on "I am from the town of Fife, my good fellow" in broad scots)

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

What's the Adam Ant pun? Adam Ant = adamant? If so... pretty lame pun.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

That's it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

xpost Tell that to Lai Mpun, the lead singer of Bangkok's Phleng Chat.

I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

I am 33 and didn't know any of these things. Wait - how the hell DOES a candle work?!

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Same with Sandy Shaw.
OK I was 32 when I found out this was a pun.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

i don't know how to explain it but i used to think chickens had a really weird way of "mating", something to do with the rooster's legs. (!!?!?) :)

Ludo, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

"that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character."

^^^Dude, you beat me by a month. Thanks!

I once spent a half hour trying to eject a cd from a Mac before someone finally told me there's an eject button on the keyboard. I was going through all these crazy menus and preferences...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

― filthy dylan, Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:30 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


I did not know that oxen were cattle until about a week ago.

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

loooool one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory.

I think I've done that Mac eject button thing too :(

Pronounced lapels like 'labels' for years until corrected but happily don't dress well enough to use it often

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

My girlfriend was shocked to learn, at the age of 33, that a 'Flea Circus' is actually a rather charming mechanical toy, and is in no way operated by any parasitic insects.

Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ismael, at the age of 32, is shocked to learn the same thing. This thread is getting embarrassing

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

WAT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea_circus

Øystein, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory

no but seriously, what is this about?

negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

i mean i can see that there's rarely anything to size them against in the big white antarctic, but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

u could still play tag w/it tho

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

But you could make the same assumption with ostriches in the big yellow desert (or wherever they live), and in that case you'd be right!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

aw no-one said 'where babies come from'

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've had a lot of experiences in my adult life with mispronouncing words I understood as part of written text, but hadn't heard aurally in the context of conversation etc. For example, I was well into my twenties before I knew the word "vehement" wasn't pronounced veh-hee-ment. I wish others would politely correct you when you do that instead of letting you blindly sound like an idiot.

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm a bit like that, but now I'm in the habit of saying works incorrectly, I can't get out of it. Canal is not pronounced can-el, but there's fuck all I can do about it now.

NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

^ This happens to me all the time too - so much so that I actually now find it quite amusing when I realise, midway through a sentence, that a word I've never heard before is looming at the end. I suppose that people who talk a lot, rather than reading, must find the same with spelling. It only annoys me when some moron uses it as an opportunity to score cheap points (sadly fairly often)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was going to start a thread like this, but it was going to be more about 'life lessons' that took you forever to learn, rather than trivia.

Anyway it's taken me this long to fully realize how unreliable first impressions can be when it comes to people.

invisible jet (wanko ergo sum), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

haha

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

TAL have an episode on this in the "best of" section on their wesite. people who thought unicorns were real, etc., lots of awkward silences at cocktail parties: good stuff.

rent, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

i like to tag birds. (runs)

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

There's a penguin here and he wants to say "you didn't touch me ner ner ner"

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

I thought penguins went "weh weh weh"

╓abies, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you couldnt get me in the same room as a ouija board

a country packed with ponies (sunny successor), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was about 35 when I figured out Open Sesame = Open Says Me.

Rotgutt, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

i used to think HAZCHEM was a foreign word for danger like Achtung

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

I just figured out, like 2 days ago, that the lyrics are "highway to the danger zone"

(until then, thought they were "I went to to the danger zone")

homosexual II, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

I only just realised that it is genealogy, not geneology.

― brain (krakow), Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:12 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel like i noticed that for the first time like 10 years ago, and every time i see it, it's like the first time i'm realizing all over again. the information will not stay in my mind.

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 16:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i've never thought about until just now and i...think i just learned it! had i been asked to spell it i'm quite sure i'd have done it wrong.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 17:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Apparently genea -logy
Was wondering if there was a standard difference between an -alogy and an -ology and see that an -alogy is normally an absurdity whereas an -ology is a science/study.

But looks like the word was coined outside of the tradition and might have been an -ology if the coiner was more aware of things. Or something to that effect.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 20:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Probably predates the tradition of using -ology for science since it dates back to Old French and late Latin.
So slightly surprising the spelling hasn't been coopted into the pattern sciences follow. I thought language developed more freely and things like that frequently adapted to existing patterns they predated.

I take it most -ology post dates the 18th century and people like Lavoisier trying to move things away from alchemical terms. & actually trying to set things up as a science, a school of understanding based on empirical research rather than something more mystically based.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 February 2019 09:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

All very interesting. I was properly shocked when Google asked me "Did you mean: genealogy". I've always pronounced it genie-ology too, which I now assume must also be incorrect.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 28 February 2019 12:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah kind of interesting. I think its a word taht's been around for long enough that it predates its current meaning. Found out in a Philosophy lecture in the early 00ies that gravity wasa term that far predated Newton, was thought of as a force in nature before it became a force in physics.
Genealogy has been thought of as the study of ancestry etc way before the actual physical processes were understood.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 February 2019 14:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Stevolende, you're doing good work, but getting into the philosophy of the etymology of genealogy is making my brain a bit grogggy.

But what a wonderful world this could be!

pplains, Thursday, 28 February 2019 14:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the talk on a cereal box iirc

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 February 2019 14:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Canirisology is a narrow field of study

Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 February 2019 16:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the singer from the 90s rock band filter is the actor robert patrick's brother

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 February 2019 19:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

8 1/2 was the number of films Fellini had completed to that point including the film itself and a collaboratively directed one.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

tank from the matrix is the brother of her from commando

their dad is chong from cheech and chong

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Ian Dench out of EMF is one of Beyonce's writers, including Beautiful Liar.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Friday, 1 March 2019 12:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

A lot of Late Registration, including Gold Digger, is co-produced by Jon Brion (who I'd only known in a Aimee Mann context)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 March 2019 12:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1990s acoustic ska act Venice Shoreline Chris was a pun on Venice Shoreline Crips.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

We really need a "today I learned" thread as well as this one, FFS.

emil.y, Friday, 1 March 2019 15:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it's certainly more accurate than "shockingly old"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

A commonly-repeated anecdote claims that the name is derived from an occasion when King James I of England, while being entertained at Hoghton Tower during his return from Scotland in 1617, was so impressed by the quality of his steak that he knighted the loin of beef, which was referred to thereafter as "Sir loin".

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Arnold Deutsch, the top Soviet spy recruiter in 30's/40's London had a cousin called Oscar who started a highly successful UK cinema chain with the acronym business title of "Oscar Deutsch Entertains Our Nation".

calzino, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The original Odeons were the popular amphitheatres of ancient Greece. The name Odeon had been appropriated by cinemas in France and Italy in the 1920s, but Deutsch made it his own in the UK. His publicity team claimed Odeon stood for "Oscar Deutsch Entertains Our Nation".

Number None, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I knew that, but more impressed that he was first cous with a top Soviet spymaster!

calzino, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

turns out the original ferris wheel had nothing to do with ferric oxide and was just built by a bloke called george ferris

seedy ron (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 2 March 2019 20:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

William Shatner and Leonard Cohen were distantly related

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 2 March 2019 20:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

misread that as Leonard Nimoy and thought well *that* adds to the ickiness of slash fiction

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 3 March 2019 03:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Bob Fosse and Paddy Chayefsky (and presumably their egos) were good friends.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Donald Glover and Childish Gambino are the same person.

just another country (snoball), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

also Teddy Perkins

Number None, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the differences between homonyms, homophones, and homographs

Brad C., Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That there's apparently a cosmetic process that extracts fat from a patient's behind and injects it into their face.
Or that somebody would be willing to go through that process.
though I guess Botox isn't much more pleasant.

Just reading a book on the cosmetic surgery industry that mentions it.
Might just prefer to hear it was a hoax,

Stevolende, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there are polar bears in russia. i mean, if you'd asked me i'da said, 'erm, well i suppose there MUST be, but i never heard of em?'

Hunt3r, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I just realized that "about 50 years ago" can no longer really plausibly be referring to, say, 1945, or even 1955.

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 8 March 2019 21:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, someone I know had his 50th last month and the Facebook image was the cover of the LOEG 1969 issue, gave me some stares.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 March 2019 21:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there are polar bears in russia. i mean, if you'd asked me i'da said, 'erm, well i suppose there MUST be, but i never heard of em?'

― Hunt3r, Friday, March 8, 2019 4:30 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was going to say that there were penguins in South Africa when i read that . Think I had to get off the bus or something so didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_penguin

and then there was always this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4&list=PLF388BB8ED67CA5D6

Stevolende, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

well just found out taht not all youtube videos work innit.

Stevolende, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

... tell me about it.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2019 23:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink


I just realized that "about 50 years ago" can no longer really plausibly be referring to, say, 1945, or even 1955.

This old guy I know on Facebook posted a #throwbackthursday family portrait from 1979. Total Sears studio thing with forest background, Dad with the sideburns, daughters with the swishy bangs, dork son with a moptop.

And it didn't dawn on me until I saw it again later that the old guy was the dork son in the photo, not the Dad (who he really looks like now, minus the sideburns.)

pplains, Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Fifty years ago I was in high school and it was nothing like 1945 or 1950!

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

how would you know though

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Different soundtrack.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I just haven’t updated my concept of what “50 years ago” is since I was a child I think. Until like today.

moose; squirrel (silby), Saturday, 9 March 2019 03:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I have only this evening realised that Count Von Count has a beard and it is blowing my mind and I definitely think it deserves to be on this thread.

emil.y, Thursday, 14 March 2019 04:04 (one week ago) Permalink

I've only just realised that there are two separate bad pirate ladies on Swashbuckle (cbeebies). Captain Sinker apparently left and was replaced by Captain Captain.

kinder, Thursday, 14 March 2019 08:13 (one week ago) Permalink

This isn’t something I only learned recently but for many years I didn’t realise that a coffee enema was an actual procedure, when people referred to it I assumed they were making a humorous reference to the laxative effects of coffee

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Thursday, 14 March 2019 11:10 (one week ago) Permalink

xp to the horror of my wife I quite fancy Jennie Dale aka Captain Captain

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 March 2019 11:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I have only just figured out (well I was shown) how to write a 9 so it doesn't look like a 4.

*posties everywhere breathe a sigh of relief*

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 March 2019 12:24 (one week ago) Permalink

I still have never learned how to hold a writing instrument 'properly' so I will probably be shockingly old when/if that ever happens. I write longhand constantly with no ill effect, though, which seems to put paid to the entreaties of my frustrated teachers and parents. Nyah.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 March 2019 12:27 (one week ago) Permalink

lol CAL

kinder, Thursday, 14 March 2019 12:48 (one week ago) Permalink

I still have never learned how to hold a writing instrument 'properly' so I will probably be shockingly old when/if that ever happens. I write longhand constantly with no ill effect, though, which seems to put paid to the entreaties of my frustrated teachers and parents. Nyah.

I can completely relate! I never learned to grip the way you're supposed to with "a writing instrument" so I feel like that probably makes writing a more difficult proposition than it should be, but it's too late for me to break myself of the old habit so if I ever do, it'll probably be when I'm close to death. Also, I attended Catholic schools so I KNOW they paid extra special attention to the way we wrote (hell, we got marks for penmanship all the way through the end of grade school, i.e. until the end of the 8th grade!) and no one bothered to correct me, so I guess I was doing a good enough job as it was.

Anyway, new thing I have only just been corrected on (and this is timely for today): I learned the Irish stepped in to help Mexico out with the Mexican-American war, NOT the war for Mexican independence from Spain as I'd previously thought! I feel like an idiot because I parroted the latter misconception to my Mexican-born aunt a few months back as if it were true and she didn't correct me. I really should have known this because of my late mom's extreme pro-Mexican cheerleading and my late dad's having had an Irish grandmother (which I've already mentioned), but nope, took me THIS long to have had corrected, d'oh!

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Sunday, 17 March 2019 17:47 (one week ago) Permalink


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