2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Because J0hn D made a sensible suggestion

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone see the forum on third parties on C-SPAN last night? McKinney, Paul, Nader etc.

Paul definitively said he wouldn't endorse McCain as he didn't want to destroy whatever credibility he's built up over 30 years. So that post during the RNC that said otherwise was bullshit.

fuck this election.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Paul...didn't want to destroy...credibility he's built up

my new tattoo

J0hn D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, so I was looking for a picture of some paul supporters to demonstrate his credibility and found this instead:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2846509952_9fddab936d.jpg?v=0

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

uh

lol (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

gotta love how they didn't have the aesthetic sense to copy the original and/or know that the eye will naturally assume it's an Obama shirt with the now-iconic design, so they have to put a lame "McCain + Palin" at the bottom in a font they clearly spent at least five seconds deciding on

J0hn D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Ed, what about your big convention report thingy?

suzy, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I am typing that now.

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

wai is that broked???

suzy, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

blogspot.com

Drinking Island is inside every one of us (Ed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Paul definitively said he wouldn't endorse McCain as he didn't want to destroy whatever credibility he's built up over 30 years. So that post during the RNC that said otherwise was bullshit.

Cap'n-Save-a-Racist-Nativist-Freakshow

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

(Paleo-Con)

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

So it's come to stealin' andtwat's act, eh?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

weak

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Paleontology v. Palintology...

suzy, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

the more iffy obama's chances of winning seem, the less 'charming' morbius' 'independent' act is

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

you should have put all of the words in the second half of that sentence in quotes

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I would be scared of all this scare quotes.

Men have known how to divide and rule women ever since the invention of original sin and a candidate like Palin is a genius pick on that level. I'm getting OMG she's an endtime jeeebus freak email from the strangest, most straitlaced people, but people with Republican Stockholm Syndrome who drink in sports bars think Palin is spunky.

suzy, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

hey guys, here's a tip

STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE POLITICAL STYLINGS OF DR MORBIUS

lol (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

There are plenty of undecided/wavering voters out there; you don't need to spend time on the Internet showing concern about a left-leaning guy in a Democratic state.

lol (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, tell O to pour $ into Bob Barr's campaign in red states! That might save him.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

only y ou can do it, morbs

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

god this is horrible i get sick i can't even think about this they are going to fucking win i can feel it in my gut this feels like a minnesota vikings game where we're ahead on the 4th but then you feel something slipping...like the air changes and fuck it's like you know you are done, then they fumble and the other team recovers and all of a sudden the momentum is totally shifted and seriously people are going to elect this corrupt old fool and that vacant chick and it's like the way the media spins this shit there's no amount of awesome stuff obama can even say because the whole dialogue is rigged anyway fuck man...like and if we can't even win THIS election like what are the chances that we'll EVER win a fucking election ever again, being totally serious

copying from the other thread 'cause the other thread should move over here. matt I feel you, the momentum shift is kinda "wtf," but this "ever again" bit is silliness. look at history. absolutely nothing is permanent, even though "we have arrived at the solution!" is a popular political sentiment and it always sounds scary coming from the other side.

J0hn D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I would suggest that the other thread be locked, except this thread's title is so bad.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i think it's appropriate, it sounds like some horrible federal acronym

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this thread's title! it reads like a government protocol manual chapter subheader!

xpost!!!!

J0hn D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

hi fives

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Puget > PG&E

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

now that the other thread where I was a dick a lot of the time is closed, I am making a general election promise to not be a dick

J0hn D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

so vote for me you assholes

J0hn D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck you pay me

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

in TAX CUTS

lol (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

My Friends..

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

not to be captain save-a-moosehunter but i think its important to realize that the conservative base, for all its woman-hating, has always relied on COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS at the grassroots who were, essentially, PTA and churchgoing women - lots of small towns/local govts across the country are run by or are very much impacted by women involved in public life. Palin is very much a part of a long tradition of female activists within the conservative movement and it doesnt do us any good to pretend otherwise.

A case study of the conservative movement in Los Angeles and its suburbs suggests that yes, women were important actors in the postwar conservative ascendancy. If we look below the surface of formal politics, especially in the conservative stronghold of southern California, we see a very feminine world of grassroots activism. Southern California women show us that postwar gender norms created room for a highly effective female sphere of activism. They also demonstrate that the 1950s revival of domesticity had a politically radicalizing effect on many women. Groups of predominantly white, middle-, and upper-class wives and mothers took advantage of their privileged social circumstances to become militant anticommunist crusaders. By measuring the reach of their political activism and evaluating its impact, we see that women's clubs were important incubators of McCarthyism and that housewife activists played a critical role in mobilizing the grassroots base of the conservative movement.

http://www.oah.org/pubs/magazine/conservatism/nickerson.html

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i know about this cuz i read a book about o.c. conservative women activists back in an lol college course on the history of conservatism, but i cant rememeber the name of it off the top of my head

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

i have hope that once this election finally turns back into obama vs mccain (post-debates or something? idk) that obama will pull away a little. or maybe all of palin's scandals will eventually topple her credibility, esp if the media starts to run with some of these other ones the way they kind of have with the bridge to nowhere. really anticipating biden dicing her in the debate re: her lies. we'll see if it actually happens.

as of now i still prefer to live in a world where everyone is sensible and will not vote for these frauds. still planning to voluntarily step into oncoming traffic on i-70 on nov 5 though

its sad he was a ringtone poster (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, Obama's celebrity is backed by actual credibility, whereas Palin's is prob going to fade as people realize she's a moron

krots tphns (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

this was two days ago, don't know if it's been covered here, but it's more make-a-lefty-feel-misty/give-righties-soundbites ("he said Iraq isn't important!" stuff. but the point of it is the volume rise at the end, which an AP story points out is a change in strategy.

J0hn D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

If the election goes wrong, I'm going to throw myself on the mercy of English, Irish and Dutch friends, anybody who can hide me out Anne Frank stylee for a few decades.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama's celebrity is backed by actual credibility

oh, FISA, oh don't you cry for meee....

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

lol "Barack the bombthrower"

krots tphns (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

copying from the other thread 'cause the other thread should move over here. matt I feel you, the momentum shift is kinda "wtf," but this "ever again" bit is silliness. look at history. absolutely nothing is permanent, even though "we have arrived at the solution!" is a popular political sentiment and it always sounds scary coming from the other side.

You know, I'm no longer concerned about history. When Bush was re-elected, I told myself, "Well, the nation endured Grant and Garfield and Arthur and those guys. It can't crumble too much in four years."

But now, I'm realizing that I've "only" got four or five decades left here, that I'm likely going to be an elderly man when I finally see another Chief Justice, so yes, the opportunity to lose yet another election, especially when we've got a guy like Obama, is a bit frightening.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

by "credibility" I don't really mean actual credibility -- I mean I think Obama has the political wisdom to be able to sustain ppl's faith in him, whereas the Palin thing seems like it could collapse much more easily

krots tphns (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I wonder if McCain will get a boost in the polls from the 9/11 anniversary stuff.

i fuck mathematics, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama has the ability to control the terms of the debate (something Kerry was horrible at) - I think he'll be aiight

krots tphns (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, FISA, oh don't you cry for meee....

morbs is not just a Doctor, but a community organizer, law review editor, lawyer, State Senator, United States Senator and Presidential nominee

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm nervous

the valves of houston (gbx), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link

P.Plains, this is kind of a weird question on this thread, but not really: does Beeps have joint US/Australian citizenship?

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 September 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

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joe 40oz (deej), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

obama in pre-sneeze mode entire time posing for portrait

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 03:59 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

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Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama will take away your lipstick

ILX MOD (musically), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

McCain - Palin Tradition

By Hank Williams Jr.

The left wing liberal media have

Always been a real close knit family

But, most of the American People

Don't believe em anyway ya see

Stop and think it over

Before you make your decision

If they smell something

They're gonna come down strong

It's a McCain - Palin tradition

Now this old Union's got problems

That is plain to see

The Democrats bankrupted Fannie Mae N Freddie Mac

Just like 1, 2, 3

The bankers didn't want to make all those bad loans,

But Bill Clinton said you got to

Now they want a bail out, what I'm talking about

Is a Democrat liberal who doo

CHORUS

John N Sarah tell ya

Just what they think

And they're not gonna blink

And they're gonna fix this country

Cause they're just like you N ole Hank

Yes John is a maverick

And Sarah fixed Alaska's broken condition

They're gonna go just fine

We're headed for better times

It's a McCain - Palin tradition

I am very proud of America's name

Bu no society is perfect

And we have had our stains

If I'm down at the coffee shop and

Somebody wants to give our flag friction

We say please move on

Cause we're standing strong

That's an old John McCain tradition

CHORUS

John N Sarah tell ya

Just what they think

And they're not gonna blink

And they're gonna fix this country

Cause they're just like you N ole Hank

Yes John is a maverick

And Sarah fixed Alaska's broken condition

They're gonna go just fine

We're headed for better times

It's a McCain - Palin tradition

Some are bound to tell you I'm

Preaching to the choir

And that is very true

And we are going even higher

Like a mama bear in Idaho

She'll protect your family's condition

If you mess with her cubs

She's gonna take of the gloves

It's an American female tradition

CHORUS

John N Sarah tell ya

Just what they think

And they're not gonna blink

And they're gonna fix this country

Cause they're just like you N ole Hank

Yes John is a maverick

And Sarah fixed Alaska's broken condition

They're gonna go just fine

We're headed for better times

It's a McCain - Palin tradition

joe 40oz (deej), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I am ready for some bullshit

David R., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link

all my rowdy friends are here for election night!!

finger blaster (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/10/13/politics/p035847D87.DTL

The young man said he wasn't an expert on politics by any stretch. Asked about Barack Obama, he replied: "I don't know anything about him. He seems like a good guy. I like him."

Johnston didn't register in time to vote, according to the Mat-Su Division of Elections Office in Wasilla. But he's still rooting for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

"I just hope she wins," he said. "She's my future mother-in-law. She better win."

get it right in utah (tremendoid), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

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Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:20 (fifteen years ago) link

god bless you please

David R., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Can someone please enlarge that dancing Mogwai!!!

David R., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, tennessee

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Gotta watch out for ET fathers.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

what the fuck is it with wingnut phlebotomists

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

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"hey grandma, lookee who I brought over to say hello!"

the RHETERIC (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

finally... some images in this thread.

Joe Pinot (rockapads), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 06:06 (fifteen years ago) link

http://imagebot.org/debate.jpg

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link

thatsmisogynist.gif

Dan I., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 08:36 (fifteen years ago) link

someone should seriously make that, btw

Dan I., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Discuss: is Sarah Palin herself a female misogynist? They do exist and I think she is one.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link

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"Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"

Dead Cat Bounce (Ed), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Gah!
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gwb43UdfD5hL/610x.jpg
"Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"

Dead Cat Bounce (Ed), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 09:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"Oh, I don't know about being President but I'll settle for Secretary of State!" -Sidney Poitier in Guess Who's Coming To Dinner.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

ps. I have a feeling that Hank Sr would not condone most of Bocephus' musical output, including this.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link

could somebody start a new thread already? this thing takes forever and a weekend to load at this point

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

My Pussy's So Hot: US Presidential Election Thread THREE

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:06 (fifteen years ago) link

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It's The Don't Cha!

Dow 30,000 by 2008 (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Christ, I thought that was a real link for a second. That's not the kind of thread title I'd want to have show up on my work computer's history tyvm

ILX MOD (musically), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

could somebody start a new thread already? this thing takes forever and a weekend to load at this point

― Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:03 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

BOOOOOOOOOOOKMARK.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

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Michael White, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

xp, bookmark is no use for looking back through the thread if you've got a slow computer/connection

caek, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

is the third debate tonight?

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Tomorrow.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

There you go again, caek, always looking backwards when we've got the future ahead of us.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

We should have this bookmark / no bookmark discussion more often.

David R., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably already linked but this story on Obama's ground game is well worth a read.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Bring it, bitches: Very long threads

caek, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Tomorrow's debate will be a sit-down, I take it.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081014/capt.89988dc0f5964c00af387eaed2203ef4.presidential_debate_nyts101.jpg

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link


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