― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― bell labs (bell_labs), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
OS iXi
― pabs (Pablo A), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― bell labs (bell_labs), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― SÆbästìên (immortalist), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 2 February 2007 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Beware the new Macsweeper spammers -- Very funny (for a new Mac user anyway) posts by someone calling themselves Apple Angel on this forum: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6159509
― Rib Dinner, Thursday, 14 February 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link
To answer that we would have to be stupid enough to visit your website and install your software. I will not do that for the following reasons:
1. I will never try your product because I do not trust you, your company or your software.
2. I have no confidence in the quality, usefulness and security of your product and only a fool would willingly install it. Happily, I am not a fool.
3. I utterly distrust you, your company and your software because of the way you promote and spread it.
4. I have no confidence in your software because of the many nefarious, malicious and downright evil snake-oil pedlars that you share server space and distribution tactics with. A man may be judged by the company he keeps.
5. Nobody should trust a company that uses fake online scans (mere SWF animations) to panic and deceive visitors to their site into downloading a product of questionable quality, usefulness and security.
6. Your website uses unethical (and potentially illegal) tactics to force a visitor into activating a download, even when they expressly do not wish to accept a download. No legitimate business does this, therefore we know you and your company are a bunch of crooks and your software can never be trusted.
7. Your pop-up that forces the download reads "This file has been digitally signed and independently certified as 100% free of viruses, adware and spyware". That is either an utterly meaningless statement or a plain lie.
8. If you are happy to force the download of this product (which you claim to be benign), we have to assume you are also happy to force the download of Mac viruses and Trojans once you have worked out how to write them.
9. Your software is, at best incompetent and unnecessary (better products exist to do the job) and at worst extremely dangerous, especially considering what future updates might do. http://blog.iantivirus.com/2008/01/deeper-look-on-macsweeper.html
10. I would not want MacSweeper even if you gave it away for free. What's that? Oh, you are giving it away free... 1000 licences, you say?
Well you know what...
I still don't want it.
But anyway, what is the point of polite discourse when you are, to my mind, criminals posing as a pair of hapless students...?
It is my considered opinion that you are practicing your art, refining your techniques and testing the water for a more serious attack on the mac community using similar tactics and much more dangerous software. Let all Mac users beware.
― Rib Dinner, Thursday, 14 February 2008 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Press apple-option while clicking on a selected icon in list view and you can scroll the window:
http://www.screencast.com/users/libcrypt/folders/Jing/media/e92f1fea-de41-48dd-8c01-dbfa6288b394
― libcrypt, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Probably matters more to me because I refuse to give up the most ergo mouse in the universe, which just happens not to have a scroll wheel.
― libcrypt, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
That also works in Internet Explorer for the Mac, one of the nice touches I wish the other browsers had used.
― stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
you still use IE on the Mac? I didn't even know it would still run on the latest versions of OSX (it's still ie5, right?)
― akm, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Our work computers are still on Mac OS 9, and they *still* haven't rolled out Mozilla to them all yet.
― stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link
holy cow
― akm, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Like, we're talking almost a decade here.
― fields of salmon, Thursday, 17 April 2008 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link
yeh, you haven't truly hated Apple until you've stared at OS 9 for eight years
― stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I miss it.
― Alba, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link
really? only our shower could replace it with something worse.
― stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link
OK, I was not being entirely serious.
What stet doesn't mention is that he's getting new exciting Windows XP in a few weeks time, so the Mozilla-less OS 9 machines will never experience the joy of tabbed browsing.
― Alba, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm still in denial
― stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link
www.system7today.com
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link
XP is still a good OS, being phased out for purely commercial reasons. I'd definitely prefer that to OS 9.
Still, OSX (and Leopard especially) converted me after being a hardcore PC guy for over 15 years. I've always hated the company, their image and advertising (I still haven't bought an iPod) but recent changes and a growing frustration with Windows finally got me to turn to the dark side.
― Nhex, Friday, 18 April 2008 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link
One hater at a time.
― libcrypt, Friday, 18 April 2008 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link
System 7 was the last Mac OS I used (circa... 1996, maybe?) before going into a long dark night of nothing but Windows, several of those years not even owning a computer. When I came back, OS X was in full swing. I have no idea what OS 9 even looks like. (Maybe I'll search the amazing internet for screenshots!)
― kenan, Friday, 18 April 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link
also, jeezy creezy stet. I will never complain again about our IT department or not having the most current software. (Note: this is a lie.)
― kenan, Friday, 18 April 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
funny, a few weeks ago I was reading a site that says System 6 is the last true and great Mac operating system.
― dan selzer, Friday, 18 April 2008 04:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Lots of System 6 folks thought that 7 was the apocalypse when it arrived, and perhaps not without justification. The instabilities most folks associate with Mac OS (classic) were properties of systems 7 through 9. E.g., I remember doing layout with Pagemaker on a Mac IIsi in 1986-7, and it never ever crashed or hung up. I don't recall what version of Mac OS system version it was, tho.
― libcrypt, Friday, 18 April 2008 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know which UK newspapers other than the Guardian use OS X. I was at the G eight years ago when they finally abandoned green screen dumb terminals. 2000 might seem a long time ago now but believe me, even then, green screen felt a lot more WTF LOL than OS 9 does now.
― Alba, Friday, 18 April 2008 08:04 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm not so sure. i spend most of my working day creased up in mirth.
oh, no, hang on: that's agony and loathing.
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 18 April 2008 08:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I liked System 7 best of all. It looked good and had nearly everything I wanted in the Finder. It's a pity that it was of the age where you could really only use computers for actually doing stuff, not just pissing about. If it had a decent browser and iTunes, I'd be back on it in a shot.
(It was also pretty much as stable as System 6 was under MultiFinder. The crashes 7-9 saw were nearly all down to trying to do multi-tasking on a single-tasking OS with no memory protection.)
― stet, Friday, 18 April 2008 10:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Does anybody know if you can run System 7 on a G4 Powerbook?? Yes I am insane.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 April 2008 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Not without emulation, no.
― stet, Friday, 18 April 2008 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link
I got a PB 550 (I think) off eBay to run it. Churned out essays with Word 5.1, but getting ILX up on Netscape was an exercise in pain.
― stet, Friday, 18 April 2008 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I remember doing layout with Pagemaker on a Mac IIsi in 1986-7, and it never ever crashed or hung up. I don't recall what version of Mac OS system version it was, tho.
probably 6.5.x with multifinder
― Ed, Friday, 18 April 2008 10:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Word 5.1, how I miss it, easily the best edition of MS Word.
Still is on the Mac, but Word 2007 for PC is better, finally. Is first good version of PC Word, too.
― stet, Friday, 18 April 2008 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link
haxor me just got leopard working on an old dual 450! (it's not perfect, but it runs well enough)
― Alan, Friday, 18 April 2008 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Not had the pleasure of word 2007 yet, although I think we are about to upgrade from 2000 here.
― Ed, Friday, 18 April 2008 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I would guess closer to system 3:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS#Graphical_timeline
― libcrypt, Friday, 18 April 2008 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
IIsi had to be at least 4.0
― stet, Friday, 18 April 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
(and if it had MultiFinder it was at least 5.0, which didn't last long before 6 came out)
I think that the Multifinder thing was a guess on Ed's part. But it was certainly a IIsi.
― libcrypt, Friday, 18 April 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link
It also had a 21" monochrome Radius display that required a special card. Pops gave it to me in about 97 and I maxed out the RAM to like 24MB or something and put NetBSD on it.
― libcrypt, Friday, 18 April 2008 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Nope. The IIsi initially shipped with System 6.0.7 (which was really just 6.0.5 patched to run on the IIsi and the LC)
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 April 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link
http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iisi.html
Obviously I'm confused about something. Pops DID give me a IIsi; maybe that's not what I used when I worked for him. I moved to Richmond in 1990, and for a year before that, I was washing dishes for a retirement home, so there's no way I was using a IIsi for layout.
― libcrypt, Friday, 18 April 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
oh yeh, sorry, it's the plain II that used 4.0
― stet, Friday, 18 April 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Bloody hell, the 10.5.3 updater is 420MB!
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
4:20
― am0n, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link
lol update is hueg
But it does say it fixes some issues with Active Directory binding. I haven't gotten full-on LDAPped-up yet, but do ya think that might also help fix the fact that there are hissy fits when mounting and unmounting NFS volumes?
Time will tell, I spose.
― kenan, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link