― bnw, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Exotica: the splintered time sequence stuff is interesting, but large swathes of this film seem to exist in some wierd alternate universe. And not an interesting alternate universe like in David Lynch films. I mean, that strip club in Exotica - do places like that exist? Why in the name of christ would a strip club have a DJ/MC who keeps reminding people that they can only look but not touch (and not in an 'I'm just stating the rules' kind of way, but like it's all part of the act)?
― DV, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I've never seen an Atom Egoyan film, btw. I'll have to check him out.
― Sean, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― adam, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mandee, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I rented this the other night (first time I had seen it in a while; this was the movie that turned me on to his stuff)...still just blows me away. I actually find it more interesting than a lot of Lynch's alternate universes (though I like Lynch a lot, too), because while many of Lynch's sets are clearly off-the-meter NOT real, Egoyan's sets strike me as more subtle, and have a way of being 'real-yet-not- real' all at once. The strip club is a great example; also the all- white, sci-fi looking video mausoleum in Speaking Parts, the triangular house in the middle of nowhere in Sweet Hereafter.
― Joe, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N., Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joe, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― fcussen (Burger), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― fcussen (Burger), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Still good. I loved The Sweet Hereafter. I loved Mia Kirshner, too.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link
i interviewed him comedically at last year's tiff
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― happy is a word, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Ararat was a mess, I'm curious to see Truth on DVD.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link
AND ANOTHER THING: The Bacon/Firth comedy team was very much unfunny in their act.
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Slocki, are you Jiminy Glick?
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
casting kevin bacon and colin firth as martin & lewis is astonishingly weird.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link
and what about when Melanie Griffith played a Hasid?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
All that, of course, does make Nomi remarkably difficult to empathise with. "So's Lady Macbeth," Verhoeven says.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Donald Sutherland was in it? I don't recall him at all. Are you thinking of Christopher Plummer?
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
That's bonkers.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Most of his original dialogue sounds like Japanese koans translated into English.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Are you not familiar with Amanda Seyfried, Shasta? She's been getting a lot of roles lately.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
If you had looked at this poster when it came out, and were asked who would have the best career 7 years down the road, would you have picked Amanda Seyfried? I doubt that anyone would, yet here we are.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8f/Mean_Girls_movie.jpg/220px-Mean_Girls_movie.jpg
― The Man Mens (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
felicia's journey was a weird freakin movie. idk what was even going on in that one.
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Felicia's Journey came out while I was living in Birmingham, and it was fun to see my adopted home writ large.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i haven't seen his last three films, for some reason. at one point he was my favorite filmmaker. I still think most of his stuff through Sweet Hereafter is top-notch. YOu need to get over the canadian-ness of some of the acting though.
― akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
in the shower this morning i was trying to remember if amanda seyfried had been in this movie, and i managed to convince myself i'd been confusing her with blonde rachel mcadams.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link
you all shouldve watched Veronica Mars, where Amanda Seyfried plays a better dead girl than Sheryl Lee...
― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Just watched Sweet Hereafter again; I think that movie has held up really well...
― excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
I was just thinking of watching that again. Love Ian Holmes's last line to Sarah Polley in that.
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
"Ian Holm's" rather
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
^yeah that's great! Holm is awesome; Polley, too.
― excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
Also the rare film that is better than the (well regarded) source novel. Seem to recall Banks liking Egoyan's additions as well.
Man, Egoyan - what happened, man?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 May 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
stopped directing films he wrote, mainly. although I didn't see adoration (actually I haven't seen anything past ararat, which I think is very good)
― akm, Saturday, 21 May 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
although people liked chloe, didn't they?
Chloe has to be his biggest film; they were selling it at Walmart!
― excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 21 May 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
it has the most famous lead acress of any of his films, which is why
― akm, Saturday, 21 May 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, right, it's just an erotic thriller from Atom Egoyan is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Walmart
I wonder what happened to his repertory...
― excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 22 May 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
Chloe is on mubi, might give it a go.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link
I hear good things about Remember from some ppl I mostly trust but overall man it's hard to think of filmmakers who fell off harder
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link
Chloe is like one of his old Red Shoe Diaries episodes. Remember was so bad.
― Boring, Maryland, Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
still haven't seen anything past Ararat. I think his films through Sweet Hereafter are all awesome.
― akm, Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
Buncha his films newly available on Criterion Channel. Guess I should finally watch The Adjuster?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link
I remember loving The Adjuster while also having it nake me feel slightly nauseous inside
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link
That's how I feel about a lot of his earlier stuff. It can be so ... discomfiting. (At least "Next of Kin" is pretty funny, iirc.) I want to say his "mature" streak of "Calendar," "Exotica" and "Sweet Hereafter" is where it all comes together (right before it all falls apart), but I haven't seen those early movies in so long.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link
Adoration is not terrible iirc
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
oooh i'm finally gonna get to see exotica!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
/Adoration/ is not terrible iirc
― Boring, Maryland, Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
Saw Next of Kin for the first time... It is funny, but also has the hollow protagonist/videotape thing which is quite creepy.
Also i'd forgotten Arsinée Khanjian is married to Egoyan.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 July 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link
it's hard to forget by the sixth time she shows up in one of his movies
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 3 July 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
LOL
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Friday, 3 July 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
I've forgotten how much a creepy queerness permeates his films
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link
Not sure i've ever detected that, but i'm rewatching stuff now after a 15-20-year layoff.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
The older victim in The Adjuster feverishly kissing Elias Koteas' hand; the gay scene in Exotica...
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
his early movies are all incredible and that unsettling, uncomfortable aspect is what makes them so. but my favorite is Calendar.
― akm, Friday, 3 July 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
I'm dreading a rewatch of Family Viewing but I'm otherwise compelled to. I haven't rewatched any of the early ones since they came out.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 17 July 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
wow, the adjuster!!!! what a film
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 September 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link
rewatched exotica last night, that's now an all-timer for me. a vibe i haven't found anywhere else
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
the verhoeven quote upthread is fundamentally right especially wrt to comparing exotica and showgirls, but it also wouldn't occur to me to compare them. showgirls is corrupted; exotica, despite its consumingly sinister atmosphere, is very innocent. these are babes in the woods, broken apart by trauma and reassembled into people they don't recognize
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
the club is incredible but all of my favorite dialogue exchanges in the movie are between bruce greenwood and sarah polley in the car
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
yes, one of my absolute all time favorite films. I think the screenplay is exceptional. It's one of the only screenplays I bought in book form and kept.
― akm, Friday, 25 September 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
showgirls and exotica aren't even remotely about the same thing so comparing them isn't fair to either one. Exotica is explicitly about grief.
― akm, Friday, 25 September 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
the abrupt transition from the club to the shot of the search party emerging over the hill and then back to bruce greenwood sweating in the bathroom... takes my breath away
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
Liked Exotica when it came out, haven’t seen it since. Did see Don McKellar’s Last Night finally on MUBI recently.
― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 September 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
holy fucking shit @ speaking parts
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link