Defend the Indefensible: Harry S. Truman

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I'm shocked I've found no discussion besides lots of scattered remarks on threads dealing with modern American history. Is there a consensus?

In truth, like most historical figures of consequence, he's an immensely difficult man to assess. I'm tempted to blame him for much of what went wrong after 1945. Gore Vidal's bete noire and the GOP's favorite Democrat is rightly responsible for the post-WWII U.S. hegemony: creator of the CIA, National Security Agency, National Security Act; originator of "police actions" like the Korean War and unabashed flexing of executive power (seizure of steel mills). He dropped the atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki when plenty of evidence existed for Japan's eventual capitulation.

Yet, as David McCullough's bio makes clear, he's probably the most sheerly likeable of all the chief executives post-FDR: a bourbon-slinging guy who really was as no-nonsense as his reputation suggests and read Plutarch and Shakespeare in his spare time. Also: desegregated the Army by executive order and whose Senate committee investigating wartime expenditure was a model of legislative branch scrutiny.

GIVE HARRY HELL.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

ok but what the hell kind of url is that

goole, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I knew you'd like that.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

for a guy whose reputation has just soared and soared in the last few decades, to the point where you hear politicians citing him as a role model more than FDR, truman sure was universally detested in his day -- he still holds the record for an all-time low approval rating at the end of his term.

funny bob dylan quote, when someone asked him if he ever dreamed of being president as a boy: "who'd want to be harry truman?"

J.D., Friday, 1 August 2008 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link

The best dressed of 20th century presidents. The dude could wear a double-breasted suit.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

World War I vet as well -- his letters home and related papers here. A sample from one of the many to his then-fiancee Bess:

I wrote you several letters from the last town I was in and told you how I came back to the regiment, am a Captain and a lot of things like that. Now some other censor has decided that we should not have mentioned places and I am much afraid all that mail is destroyed. Some day they will get the things all straightened out.

Your letters of the 14th and 19th of June were here at camp when I arrived and you may be sure I am most happy to get them. You couldn't possibly write me a silly letter. I am disappointed that you should think of tearing up one they are so very valuable. We work like thunder and cuss the things we have to do sometimes especially when some chippie whose (sic) been to school since the war began and has never seen a man nor a horse tries to make things clear and easy for us when along comes a letter from home saying we are heroes and puffing us all up until we don't have a worry in the world but to make good and win the war.

We moved from our billets at the beautiful old French town I told you of and are now at a large artillery camp with the whole brigade. We are going to shoot every day for a while and then we hope to shoot some Huns.

You've no idea how sorry I am to hear of your mother's illness and I most sincerely hope you have succeeded in making her well again. I should certainly like to see Fred* washing dishes. I bet he can't do it any better than I can. Your cornbread I know would be the finest to be had as would anything else you'd make. I wish I could only have a hunk of it. We get plentyto eat but of course it's not like yours and mother's cooking. I hope your grandfather[19] is much better now and that by the time you read this letter that you won't have a thing to worry about but how quickly I'll be home to march down the aisle with you.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm amused by this one as well -- a friendly little 'yeah, hope I'll be able to make the reunion!' note in the middle of the electoral campaign of his life.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

According to the McCullough bio, he really was as no-nonsense as his publicists claimed – in the best sense of the word. The consequences could be dire, too. I'm still struggling to understand the situation at Potsdam: to what degree did Truman comprehend the complex series of nods and hints that FDR gave Stalin re Soviet intentions in Berlin and Eastern Europe, and Churchill's own written go-ahead to Stalin about keeping Poland, the Baltic states, etc.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

alfred -- check out charles mee's "meeting at potsdam" for some good insight into that.

truman actually came to regret the creation of the CIA and recommended in an interview with merle miller late in life that it be disbanded and replaced with a more accountable agency.

J.D., Friday, 1 August 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, well that makes up for it

and what, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

A lot of Truman can be blamed on FDR's clandestine semiotics: he told so many advisors so many different things, and met Truman just twice after inauguration, that it's no wonder Truman had to improvise.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

david brooks longs for the days of a tight-knit "bipartisan" washington oligarchy:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/opinion/01brooks.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

J.D., Friday, 1 August 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

could play the piano AND callously incinerate hundreds of thousands

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 August 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

That Merle Miller "oral biography" of Truman is pretty wild to read.

Especially when HST uses the word "nigger" on every other page.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 1 August 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG he used the word "chippie"! That is my favorite word for a floozy!

Abbott, Friday, 1 August 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link

"Nigger" however is not my favorite anything.

Abbott, Friday, 1 August 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

created the illegal CIA

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Congress approved its charter.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

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can't believe no-one did this

akm, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

truman deserves some shit for creating the CIA but it was a reasonably defensible agency until eisenhower took over and started using it to overthrow liberal foreign governments.

J.D., Wednesday, 17 December 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link


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