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not the one you necessarily go in, but the very nearest pub to your house. what is it like?

i have 2 equidistant pubs.

1) Arsenal Tavern. yes, a football pub. yes, named after the area. 2 strikes against. been in once, place is falling down, is full of inbreds with mullets (scorpions 82 style). stopped off on a saturday night on the way out. empty. a couple in their 50s stood, in silence, drinking. nothing left to say to each other. like martin parr photography with colour removed

2) T-Birds. dingy bar, lock ins. ok, but like how you imagine some bar in Iowa or Alberta to be, y'know, that kind of twin peaks vibe going on. you can join in the lock in as long as you go drink at the bar with the regulars and staff. its not that bad actually.

gareth, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

We are pretty much equidistant between 2 pubs too -

1. The Shaftesbury which I have never been to. Pete might've been. It looks rough and I have no plans to go there in the near future if ever.

2. The Hogshead which despite being a chain pub is quite nice and good for spotting CE minor slebz. Also it is directly next to the Railway where they do a good quiz & are very friendly though they do not check signatures properly thereby aiding & abetting the north London crime wave & the fraudulent removal of my money from my bank account.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

My nearest pub is The Fox. It has an eerie Fox head as its sign and an optimistic chalkboard saying "A FAMILY PUB" outside. It is huge and bricky. I've never been in it because it looks so unfriendly and because I don't know anyone in Barton so I've never had the need to meet there. It doesn't ever look like there's many people in it - from the windows the interior seems clean, empty but somehow ratty too.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

horribly enough i have no idea what the nearest pub to my house is. in fact i have never seen any less than a tube journey away. oh, there is something called the bar med or something like that, but it looks like the worst thing ever.

in the past i guess it has always been college bars. pretty unexciting.

toby, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I've got 3 very near me. The Woodman is a fraud, they say they have football but when I went in there I couldn't see any evidence of this so I left. The Shepherd's is apparently home to Coldplay of an evening but I've never been there because it doesn't look very nice. The third is pleasant enough, they show the football, have a pool table, a modest quiz night and a landlady with the dirtiest laugh in London.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

2 as well, one, The Grove you can see from our kitchen is a hole, go in there occasionally with flatmate who loves it, and thinks the sing- songs they have in there on a friday or Sunday night are fun, they're not, they are excruciatingly bad, awful even. The other is called the Windmill I went in there once over Euro 2000, everyone turned round to look at us but we went through to the back room and had a great time. Unfortunately since then we've heard rumours of it being somethinh of a national front hangout (it does have a whopping great St George's cross hanging outside) so we haven't been in since.

Fortunately the great Village pub is only 5 minutes away.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The pub i see from my window is 2 mins walk if that. It is a pretty straightforward Fullers pub at first glance, but there is a lot of dining room at the back. During the week it will have a thin sprinkle of locals in, maybe a dozen or more. But at the w/e it's bleddy packed, cos it's on the river. Worthy but dull.

A minute more along the river is the fancy family pub The City Barge where rumour has it Ant and/or Dec are semi-regulars. However it's popularity is a major drag, so what could be a nice place for a sunday lunch really drags out. plus they were v rude to a friend of mine (big row, money was thrown in faces, ect)

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Jonnie, the Shepherd's is a great pub as it is the venue for BASH THE PEGG the Thursday night quiz attended by local sleb Simon Pegg. I have only been once and we failed miserably to bash him I'm afraid though the quizmistress lady thought Nick was a girl so that was funny. Ha ha.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I want to bash the Pegg Jonnie!

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Standard Bearer, Goodmayes Road: It's a Wetherspoon pub. That should tell you all you need to know, surely.

DG, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

We got the curiously named 'Hero of Switzerland'. It looks like it's council owned. We daren't go in there. Full of men who have been there all day and women who are odd. It should be on a rough provincial estate. It isn't. Depply disturbing. Had to go in once to give my landladies mail to the landlord. Sometimes when there's work needed done on the house said landlady will fetch someone across from the pub. Our flat: repaired by drunk men.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The HERO OF SWITZERLAND pretty much defines the ESTATE PUB. I have never been in, due to the FEAR. There is also the MUCKY DUCK by the train station which I've been in THREE! times! Once to meet AB and once with AC. Next I hope to go with someone with the intitials AD (but where will I find someone named Anno Domini at this time of night DOH). Going the other way from our flat, you hit the Loughborough Road boozer wot advertises Salsa Classes.

Sarah, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I've seen Simon Pegg in the off licence near the Shepherd's. Thanks for the information Emma, Thursday nights suddenly have a new attraction.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The other time was by myself. Yes. I walked in and walked out. This counts.

Sarah, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Red Lion, it looks kinda horrible. Never been in it. There is also one at the very end of my road, but I've forgotten the name. I don't go to pubs very often.

jel --, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Ah yes, the salsa tavern. Shame we can't be bothered to go out to the pub of an evening really. Let's add that to your house criteria. Must be close to local pub with 1)beer garden and 2)newspapers.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

This may mean a move to Camden to the Oxford Arms you know. I am sure there is something about that pub which must be bad and we just did not notice it - it's in CAMDEN for chrissakes yet still once inside it's welcoming arms this can be overlooked...

Sarah, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The closest to me is an awful next-to-the-station affair, it has wooden floors and looks quite decent. It used to be well rough, then they closed it for a year and had a refit. Now it has 'art' and internet, but is still full of nutters and alkies.

My proper local is the best in the world. It's small, quiet has kitsch decor and is run by two jolly gay blokes. Also has quiz machine. It was pub of the year in 1981 (according to the plaque outside!)

Simeon, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Old Suffolk Punch on Green Lanes. A Wetherspoons so it has a lot of regulars who use it because the beer is cheap. I occasionally go in and have one beer near closing time.

David, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Closest pub to my flat is the Yorkshire Grey on the corner of Gray's Inn Road and Theobald's Road. I have *never* been in it. Ever. This is because it advertises a Blues Night.

Also just as close are 1) the Griffin on Clerkenwell Road which a number of Picnic In The Sky revellers borrowed for its toilet facilities unaware until entering that it was a STRIPPER PUB and 2) the Duke of York which is Ground Zero for couriers, has lovely landlords, good Guinness and a Thai couple stashed in the basement making good food for £5 a plate. I go there often enough and ILE has drunk there before.

On Farringdon Road, we have the Eagle, which I can't praise enough.

Every other pub in the area, especially the ones on Mount Pleasant, Leather Lane and Exmouth Market are ALL branches of that well-known chain the Halfwit and Banjo (translation: drinking holes for the inbred and infirm).

suzy, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I am not moving to Camden. Sorry. You know there is a pub in the houses to the back of our flat, over camberwell way. However, it looks as tempting as the Hero.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Like Gareth, two equidistant pubs: the Marlborough House in my road and the Folly Bridge Inn around the corner. Although I've lived in my present house for six and a half years I haven't been in the Marlborough House more than five times, all of them to partcipate in quizzes and most of them when my team was playing the Marlborough Mutineers (as they're called) in the local quiz league. People say that they really know how to keep the beer at the Marlborough House (true). People also say that it has been altered structurally very little since it was built in 1883 (this is also true). However, that doesn't stop the place from giving me the creeps. It has such a dedicated clientele that I see the same old faces (almost always occupying the same seats) every time I walk past. It just seems more like a private club than a pub. It's a pity, coz the married couple who run it are really nice people who usually say hello when we pass in the street. I often see them in their boat on the Thames (a couple of hundred metres down the road). The bloke also has a bicycle repair business and if you know anything about Oxford you'll know that this is really appreciated!

The Folly Bridge Inn used to be called the White House. This was a more sensible name as it's quite a way from Folly Bridge. It used to be a lovely pub attracting stoodies and locals alike...it had a quiz on Tuesdays and a music quiz on Sundays. It is a Wadworth pub which used to mean there was FARMER'S GLORY on tap (num num!)....a much better ale than Wadworth 6X and very hard to find these days. Unfortunately, the popular landlord disappeared off to Winchester and since then they've had a serious of poor bar managers who really don't seem interested. Even when I turned up with a huge crowd of co- workers they didn't seem to want to serve us. Luckily I live within easy walking distance of the city centre and fairly easy walking distance of "alt. Oxford", ie Cowley Road, so the low quality of the local boozers is not a particularly big loss to me.

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

David you surely should be going to the Sally (The Salisbury Hotel), which is big, a beautiful building, shows the football, has a strange Rugby-esque version of table football (both teams have fifteen players) and in the olden days they also used to have a busty bar wench called Emma.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sod off Pete. I kept my assets well covered when working in that den of vice & iniquity. Unless they have a new landlord I would not advise it as Eric the Austrian was EVIL and you can never get into the toilets since they are full of people shooting up.

It is a nice space though and it's a shame it's in such a shitty area.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Alan - are you in Chiswick?

The Shepherd's - never been, but heard the story of when Coldplay bloke turned up for the quiz...with Gillian Anderson.

My local - Ye White Hart. This proudly boasts it's status as Wine Pub of the Year 1999 and 2000. However, when the Bull's Head, about 200 yards away, won the 2001 title, I began to suspect the geographical remit of this competition might not be as wide as they'd like you to believe.

dan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

oh yes. i'm told it gets vvv crowded come the boat race (in 2 wks). As I may have said elsewhere, I have "issues" with the boat race, but I think i'm through that, so am determined to enjoy* the crowd. it's SOO quiet round where I live.

[*In the sexual sense]

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Oh and I've been to the Shaftesbury and I thought it was quite nice (though dodgy pub singer spoiled the ambience. The people who live locally though live on the farside of the hill and are therefore generally unwilling to sample its joys. Mr & Mrs Carsmile on the other hand...

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Nobody Inn (do you SEE? - dear God) It's yellow outside which is not an outside of pub colour. I've only been in once when I was looking for my housemate when I was locked out and needed keys. There are much nicer pubs in Crouch End and anyway ... I like bars *runs off"*

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

David, you should go in the Old Ale Emporium on Green Lanes. It's ace. They have nice toilet seats in the ladies. And that chap who was murdered last year was murdered right outside. It used to be my local, but only in theory.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Regular readers will be astonished to know that Pete has just persuaded me to go to a (gasp) bar for my birthday drinks.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Nobody Inn is a bit crap (though they used to do a music quiz which I reckon we could have won) though it does stay open til 1pm. Most intreiguingly it has a portrait of Big Bird dressed as the Virgin Mary in it.

Have you ever been to ICE Anna?

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

closest bar to me is O'Connor's, which i think i've spilled enough ink on. let's just say I'm lucky.

what IS it though about the closest x to your house that is usually so unattractive?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

closest bar to me is Bar Med which, being in St Ebbe's, is thankfully not that close.

Ever been to the pub in Risinghurst, Tom? Can't remember what it's called. Or any of the ones in Quarry (Six Bells, Masons Arms or Chequers?)

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Nobody Inn is only open till 1pm? It's worse than SOAS bar which closes at 8:30pm!

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I haven't Pete. I don't often go out in Crouch End unless someone's staying at my house. I don't really think I could fill the conversational vacumns that would occur drinking with my housemates and other nearby friends live in places with nice pubs, so I go out by them or in the centre of town.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I think Pete is kidding Anna as Ice is this incredibly bad wannabe Brixton-stylee bar which is trying to make the thirtysomething parents & twentysomething newlyweds of Crouch End feel young & groovy again. It fails miserably. However the cocktails aren't bad.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I will never trust Pete EVER again. (why have I not learned yet?)

You can tell I don't go out in CE can't you?

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

On the (AWFUL) advert for the Observer's Bar Guide the bloke goes into O's Bar which is also in Crouch End. It looks appalling. If the Observer Bar Guide is recommending places of this calibre then frankly it is not worth bothering with.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Where have I been? Barbarella (although not strictly a bar); The Kings Something and another pub I don't remember the name of.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

isnt there a Nobody Inn at Newington Green too?

gareth, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The King's Arms isn't great and has gone downhill since its refurb. Also it is one of the evil CE pubs that cashed my stolen cheques despite the really really terrible forgery of my signature. However there are worse places.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Nearest bar to me is the terribly hip 21. Jahrhundert, which has terrible service, a terribly inconsistent kitchen, terribly overpriced drinks, and a terrible amount of chain-smoking schicky mickies not listening/not dancing to some terribly predictable DJs. A nice place for breakfast, though.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

re. The Salisbury (Green Lanes): I've never been in because it seems a bit bare, and full of people wielding pool cues (perhaps that's just the bit that is visible from the street).

re. The Old Ale Emporium (Green Lanes): I've been in there a few times and quite liked it, but it's always jam-packed and I like a seat.

re. The Nobody Inn (Newington Green version): I used to go in there a lot because it stayed open late. Irritatingly Oasis were always on the juke box (it was around 96-97 though).

Does anyone like the Compton Arms in Islington?

David, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I wasn't telling her to go to ICE - I was just wondering if she had been there and if she thought it was as rubbish as we did. Barbellas is nice for food though, and pitchers of cocktails during its eight hour long happy hour. We will have to take you out for a proper Crouch End night out it would appear Anna. The Princess Alexandra is very nice in the summer for beer and just by the lido.

There is a Nobody Inn in Newington Green which is actually quite nice (though the back half is a bit like a scout hut if that takes your fancy).

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Princess Alexandra has some weird punters though like the hugely obese blind man who was sat near us. However the garden out back is great.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Unicorn, Camden Rd. Don't go there very often but good points = cheap, shows football, weekly pub quiz, friendly staff, spacious. Against = dodgy geezers, grubby decor, neglected toilet facilities. Good honest pub, 'pint for the gentleman' etc

Graham C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Princess Alexandra is very nice in the summer for beer and just by the lido.

What lido? God, I feel like such a newbie.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Duh, the lido by the Princess Alexandra!

It's on Park Road on the way to Ally Pally / Muswell Hill. I have never been as lidos are full of horrible children at the best of times and the proximity to Sprog Central can only exacerbate this problem.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sprog Central = what? a school?

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The closest to me is the Master Plan Lounge. I live in very crime ridden area so I imagine the only planning going on in there is of the nefarious variety. Stay away from the Master Plan!

lawrence kansas, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

haha that's true - there is something about high ceilinged pubs. they should be called beer halls or something.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like high ceilinged pubs - one of the things i always want in a pub is space. preferably personal space.

the old man pub is the worst kind of pub, obviously.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like old man pubs. Time and a place for every type of boozer.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hip crowded basement bars in Shoreditch/Dalston are generally way worse.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

old man pubs = creepy old men staring at you, occasionally trying to talk to you and being generally inhibiting presences. and NO DECENT WINE.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

why you'd go to a dalston basement bar to just drink is beyond me - only go to those places to dance.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Time and a place for every type of boozer.

except walkabouts etc, all bar ones etc, dodgy estate pubs (no problem with friendly estate pubs), awful omnipresent "club with no dancefloor" type bars...

nanoflymo (ledge), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

really wish we had decent 'pubs' here

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Love the Florist - recently been wishing it was my local

Also like the Camel - maybe more so in summer because of the outside

Still never been the Palm Tree

cherry blossom, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

shoreditch generally is so shit for pubs. it really bothers me when i'm in that area. i guess owl and the pussycat does the job and is nice still post-refurb but most of the others are so disappointing.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Has anyone been to The Victory on vyner st?

People in E2 are spoilt for choice:/

cherry blossom, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

old man pubs = creepy old men staring at you, occasionally trying to talk to you and being generally inhibiting presences. and NO DECENT WINE.

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

The first point isn't true for all of them by any means. The second may be, but I don't drink wine in pubs.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

I haven't been in the Owl & Pussycat post-refurb. I felt betrayed and disappointed they'd refurbished it at all. Otherwise the Reliance is the only good pub in Shoreditch proper, but that doesn't really feel like anyone could call it a local.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

The best pubs are the ones that welcome old men and The Kids (as opposed to actual kids) equally.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think we tend to default to the red lion or the strongroom or the barley mow when in sditch. both are fine. i mean, you'd never ever go to sditch for a "quiet drink" would you? all you need pubs there for is pre-club drinking.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

The first point isn't true for all of them by any means. The second may be, but I don't drink wine in pubs.

i'm basically just trying to discourage anyone from trying to make me go to the wenlock again

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

That may not be an issue for much longer :(

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Prince Arthur on Brunswick Place is a nice cosy place, feels more trad than Hoxtonised.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

the red lion never has any place to sit down. owl and pussycat always felt too loud, too crowded, i.e. a bar that looks like a pub.

florist fans really would like the kenton i feel

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

ou'd never ever go to sditch for a "quiet drink" would you? all you need pubs there for is pre-club drinking.

glad i don't live in shoreditch tbh

nanoflymo (ledge), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

This is my nearest pub according to FancyAPint.co.uk:

The Victoria
http://www.fancyapint.com/pubs/pub2258.php

Never been in it. The only local pub I've been to is v slightly further away:

Ye Olde Rose & Crown
http://www.fancyapint.com/pubs/pub2257.php

'salright, has a theatre above it, so it gets suddenly busy at interval and then quiet again a few minutes later. Don't really go drinking in pubs around where I live though, because if I am in the pub it's usually with people who don't live near me.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Closest pub to me is a recently refurbished old man pub with big tellies for the football. I never go in because it's a hun shop (rangers pub).

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

idk what's going on with the wenlock now, sale appara fell through but they're still looking to sell. last time i was in there before xmas a man wearing a morrissey t-shirt complimented me for looking like morrissey. obv i look nothing like morrissey. great pub.

havent visited the new owl&p either but have been told it's vile tedious gastro. (would assume they took the billiards out as well :/).

was in the florist on sunday for a bit, s'ok but i tend to think of it and the camel as bars tbh. otoh 1) they do london pale ale and 2) they do it in proper jars so fair play.

only been in the palm tree the one time years ago but it seemed fun. iirc the guvnor was doing his nut at someone for ordering water haha.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

im so envious of all the real pubs. we've got nothing but college bars and shitty pub rip-offs.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is my hangout.
http://armsbyabbey.com/

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

really miss proper pubs & pub sunday lunches now I'm in the US. Have a decent "Tavern" nearby that plays BBC america, has pool tables and a bit of a beer garden; has baseball stuff and photos of baseball stuff all around but it's pretty ok actually. But gooduns are kind of few and far between, particularly when you're used to having about 8 proper pubs within a 10-min walk.

Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

absolutely would kill for a beer garden around here. never going to happen.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

im so envious of all the real pubs. we've got nothing but college bars and shitty pub rip-offs.

― Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm envious too. i like the names

mizzell, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm sure there are exceptions but anything called a "pub" in the US can be safely avoided

goole, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

uh huh.

around here they call things pubs just because they have guiness on tap.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess we have dive bars, do those exist in england

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i work at a dive bar, buts its a great dive bar. we actually have a bar in town called the dive bar....which used to be a complete shithole when i was 21. now its pretty darn good, owned by same folks as armsby above.

http://thedivebarworcester.com/

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

dive bars exist in England, yes. In London, they often seem to be Spanish-themed, for some reason.

Neil S, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i never have managed to enjoy the reliance, but have prob only been there on sat nights.

the new owl is v hipsterised and yeah a bit wanky, but they seem to have actually replaced the mini refurb the old irish owner did, where he lost the carpet in favour of v bright wooden floors and put bright lighting in. it actually looks a bit more similar to the old owl now. i've heard it's a real gastro pub but nobody was eating when i was in there.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

the guvnor was doing his nut at someone for ordering water haha

he's famous for this, and other weird tics, like he'll sometimes just not let a group in for no reason. he's one of those landlords that will sit and drink with you when you're the only 3 people left in the place till 3am, but barely recognise you the next time you come in. generally a nice bloke tho.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 19:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

lets go to the palm tree, garda

cherry blossom, Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's famous for this, and other weird tics, like he'll sometimes just not let a group in for no reason. he's one of those landlords that will sit and drink with you when you're the only 3 people left in the place till 3am, but barely recognise you the next time you come in. generally a nice bloke tho.

Is this The Sun we're talking about? I have a recent anecdote about a friend having to sit in the cubicle there for a good fifteen minutes while some other friends tried to negotiate some toilet paper for him from the manager, and apparently the manager wasn't making it at all easy to be obtained...

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha no that's the palm.

cb i'm game for the palm anytime...apart from tonight or tomorrow, after that tho literally any day ever

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

palm tree manager sounds like the worst

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 27 January 2011 21:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

longshot i know but is there any pub in london where you can play CHEESES (throwing a big cheese shaped wooden block at some bowling pins) like they do in the midlands.

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

not helpful but i know a bar in detroit, usa where you can do that, but they call it feather bowling

mizzell, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

freemasons arms in hampstead, though they call it "london skittles" of course: http://www.londonskittles.co.uk/

joe, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah soz i was about to say, i could've just googled it.

wow proper alleys! that kinda seems less fun than the drop-down midlands table tbh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittles_(sport)#Midlands

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

palm and palm tree next friday

cherry blossom, Friday, 28 January 2011 00:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh no just palm tree not palm

cherry blossom, Friday, 28 January 2011 00:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

BREAKING NEWS: the camel on globe road now sells punk ipa on draught. been there about 5 times since i found this out, which is about 5 times more than in the previous three years.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 March 2012 10:55 (six years ago) Permalink

We just got a new local in a converted post office, it's pretty cool, snugs in old bank safes and stuff. Which is good because the actual closest local is fine for football watching but going in with girls feels like a complete no-no. It's basically all builders from what I can see.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 18 March 2012 11:59 (six years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Calling Chap: is the Dartmouth Arms any good?

A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:16 (five years ago) Permalink


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