― Dan Perry, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Never watched the original series much (wasn't alive at the time of
the originals, don't recall seeing the reruns), but became a fan of
the movies when they started. Fell into things fully when TNG began
(watched from the first episode to the last) and still followed those
films, though after starting with both Deep Space Nine and
Voyager I gave them up fully in late 1995 and never looked
back. Have a couple of the, ahem, 'technical manuals' around the
place but that's about it -- the other books I've avoided. Have no
costumes, have always avoided any kind of conventions general or
specific, take cruel pleasure in laughing at Shatner's follies in the
fifth movie, as should we all (the fake MST version is the only
one to see, frankly).
Unsurprisingly, Picard is my fave (I was actually a Patrick Stewart
fan already), but both Avery Brooks and Kate Mulgrew did excellent
jobs in their Sisko and Janeway roles. Scott Bakula as Archer just
scares me as a concept. TNG cast my favorite ensemble bunch, though I
will give it up (oh yes) for George Takei, Nichelle Nichols, DeForest
Kelley, Leonard Nimoy, Terri Farrell, Alexander Siddiq, Rene
Auberjonois, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran and Robert Picardo. Data
ist rad. And so forth.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― DG, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― ethan, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
note: star trek: the motion picture looked
awful. but all the ones after that were
awesome. how much cooler would next
generation have been if they had those
burgundy uniforms? kirk looked like the
motherfucker in EVERY MOVIE wearing that
ned: you think picard is tougher than
picard. what. the. fuck. did you see wrath of
khan? did you see that shit? he fucking
kicked khan's fucking vinyl-chested ass.
'oh, yeah, you have genesis, khan but you
don't have me. if you want me, you're going
to have to come down here. you're GOING to
HAVE to COME DOWN HERE!!!@#@@!$#'.
you can say ANYTHING ELSE about kirk vs.
picard, picard is smarter and more civil
and professional or whatever the fuck, but
nobody in their right fucking mind would
say that he's tougher than motherfucking
kirk. i am actually literally angry about
this, so i need to calm down now. christ, i'm
such a trekkie.
I thought it was Riker who had the twin. ;-)
that riker transporter twin episode is some
stupid shit though.
original series: chekov...maybe, but that's
stretching it. he kicks ass in the movies,
he's just sort of useless on the show. but the
original cast (chekov being a second series
addition) is flawless.
next generation: RIKER RIKER RIKER, troi,
that doctor who replaced crusher for one
year, yar, data (come on, admit it. he's a
super-advanced andriod and he can't
understand common phrases? he thinks a
'lemon' is a literal lemon for god's sake. i'm
sure the writers kissed each other for how
fucking cute that was. anyway mudd's
women were way smarter). and WESLEY.
geordie would get on my nerves if he were
played by anyone but le var burton, but he's
a childhood icon and can therefore do no
deep space nine: the only memorable
character besides the captain (who is cool)
is quark the ferengi (who is also cool). but
the rest aren't even fleshed-out enough to
annoy me. wait, no, the short-haired chick
with the ridges on her nose aggravates the
piss out of me. and the doctor, god.
voyager: it has an indian. and an asian guy.
and a black vulcan. and the captain is a
woman. only as annoying as that new
ghostbusters cartoon where one of the
ghostbusters was in a wheelchair. like,
what the hell?
evidence that kirk is the best captain: all
series after that have had kirk ripoffs that
are nowhere as good as kirk because they
are not as cool as the godly shatner. like
riker, or that really forgettable womanizer
guy from voyager. i mean, what the hell,
don't you just want to punch riker in the
face? does anyone not want to? anyone?
― Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
All-time favorite episode is "Charlie X," where the Enterprise picks
up some teenaged human waif from a planet, who then runs around the
ship melting off the faces through telekinesis (?) of various crew
members whenever he's teased or horny. What teenager
couldn't identify with that?
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― ethan, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
I remembered TNG being great when I was 12, but I watched a few of them more recently and they were AWFUL, even the later ones. I think I might have quite liked Deep Space Nine later on, when they started having season-long story arcs, but I never saw enough of them to make sense of what was going on.
― John Davey, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― gareth, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
How come most of the crew are American yet NONE of them are
chronically obese? (except Scotty who's - ahem - ""Scottish"")
In the 60s it was a bizarre mix of US military 'might is right'
fascism and Hippy-dippy, 'why can't all nations hold hands?' idealism
(though still managing to be sexist ~ Uhura the Captains secretary
and Yoaman Rand (is that right) the Captains bit of [onboard] fluff.
AND THATS IT SISTERS!)
It should have ended there as it ran out of ideas and people stopped
watching it. But OH NO, they had to bring it back in the 80s with
over-long, plodding bore-a-thon 'Next Generation' episodes that
tapped into the touchy-feely / inner-child / New-Age nonsense that
was on the go at the time. I mean - Counsellor Troi = WHY? She even
sits on the bridge next to the Captain!! the message is in the 25th
Century a bloody social worker is one of the most important jobs on a
But it was all so clinical and corperate and soul-less, advocating
Pro-conformity and how you should be a good citizen. And too much
sanctimonious liberal finger-wagging for my liking.
And it starred Whoopi Goldberg.
And how come all the baddies end up as the Federation's (UGH!)
freind, taking tokenistic jobs as Navigators etc?
And why was it always so fucking BORING?
― D*A*V*I*D*M, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Another Star Trek I had over the other incarnations -- BETTER
BACKGROUND MUSIC! Esp. that duh-dum-duh-dum-DUH-DUM-duh-dum theme
whenever Kirk's ass was in deep ship.
On the other hand, Troi's mother was AWESOME.
And the original ST's music was Varese-influenced, hey? Hmmmm ...
never knew that! Maybe I should go over to that "Who Opened Your
Ears" thread in ILM and change an answer or two of mine :-)
Troi's mom was cooler than Troi, not more attractive!
Aigh, my eyes!
― JM, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
troi: not attractive.
troi's mom: uh.
that guy who was troi's mom's butler or
something and was the guy who played lurch
in the addams family movies: mrowr.
question: who liked first contact? it was
like a next generation episode, only like,
cool. plus, supercool supporting cast with
alfre woodard and the farmer guy from
someone start a star wars thread so i can
bitch about how much that sucks except for
empire strikes back.
― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― james e l, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
hey i just remembered something else i
liked in next generation, although it's from
that bastard movie where kirk dies (falling
off a walkway! the fuck? he's saved the
universe like two hundred times and he
falls of a walkway and dies? fuck). um
anyway, i liked when data said 'shit'.
― anthony, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― jel --, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andrew L, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Andrew L has not mentioned his great expertness in this area, for
some reason. I know about it because I very briefly worked under him
on a Star Trek magazine!
― Martin Skidmore, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:49 (eight months ago) link
― DJI, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:20 (seven months ago) link
I like how Patrick Stewart de-emphasizes it most of the time.
― wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:05 (seven months ago) link
To celebrate #StarTrekUnited, stream Star Trek's most culturally impactful episodes FREE at the locations below:- https://t.co/pyZ9OyqyUQ: https://t.co/mYgkivaH32- CBS: https://t.co/Z3Y1KT4edN- Twitch: https://t.co/1S7XpZcQuE- PlutoTV: https://t.co/gGJJMKX82x pic.twitter.com/rnU01MuWXI— CBS All Access (@CBSAllAccess) June 17, 2020
personally i always thought the one where spock mind-melds with the horta was super culturally impactful
― j., Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:42 (seven months ago) link
Devil in the Dark would be on my list, too.
― Millsner, Friday, 19 June 2020 11:59 (seven months ago) link
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Monday, 29 June 2020 11:09 (six months ago) link
― AxoLOLtl (Leee), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:44 (six months ago) link
I think at some point I'll order CBS for a month and binge all the ST content at once.
― DJI, Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:49 (six months ago) link
it takes a lot longer than a month to do them all
― j., Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:51 (six months ago) link
did they really need to name their sitcom after my favorite tng episode
― wasdnous (abanana), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:16 (six months ago) link
And now the trailer:
I loled in a few places, I'll admit.
― AxoLOLtl (Leee), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:52 (six months ago) link
patrick stewart is 80 today
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 July 2020 20:55 (six months ago) link
so there's a guy on youtube who made a trilogy of three hour long star trek videos, voiced entirely by himself, and they all feature holodeck scenes in his meticulous recreations of price is right sets pic.twitter.com/iFT4vxhsfI— cuggy (@frknbns) July 12, 2020
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:56 (six months ago) link
Wow. I couldn’t locate the full length videos.
― Isolde mein Herz zum Junker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 July 2020 21:43 (six months ago) link
here's the first one, from the twitter threadhttps://youtu.be/sGZDwzphAbQ
― wasdnous (abanana), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:59 (six months ago) link
So the re-run of the Original Series has just finished, so many episodes I hadn't seen before, not many of them very good, the third season as a whole was pretty feeble.
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 10:35 (six months ago) link
... I suspect they're going to re-run the whole thing again from tomorrow.
They just loop them, they've already shown them all at least twice. Quite right too, beats all the shitty made for TV lol cgi monster movies that make up most of the rest of their daytime schedule
― Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 11:28 (six months ago) link
Every single day, immediately after Star Trek, there's a cheap crappy disaster movie made within the last decade, usually within the last 5 years, there's thousands of the fuckers!
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 11:36 (six months ago) link
South Park, my ass
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:56 (six months ago) link
I rewatched "Cause and Effect" and it kind of bummed me out thinking that just after the episode ends they're going to tell Kelsey Grammer and his crew that they're 80 years in the future and everyone they've ever known is dead. Would have been interesting if they'd done anything to follow up on that.
― JoeStork, Monday, 3 August 2020 03:42 (five months ago) link
Actually I guess given the extended lifetimes that's not true, but they've been presumed dead in their loved ones' minds for 75 years probably.
― JoeStork, Monday, 3 August 2020 03:44 (five months ago) link
Anyone watch Lower Decks yet?
― Garry Shambling (Leee), Friday, 7 August 2020 17:04 (five months ago) link
I never started watching ST:TNG until season 3 or 4 when it originally aired, but I've started rewatching from the beginning on Netflix. "Encounter at Farpoint" is decent, but the two after that are so terrible that I'm really glad I already know it gets significantly better. I know the rest of S1 is pretty rough going too.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 August 2020 18:13 (five months ago) link
Some of my favorite scenes are from the worst episodes:
Gene Roddenberry, Barrie Ingham, and Patrick Stewart sing Irish song "Phil The Fluters Ball" during the filming of "Up the Long Ladder." Michael Dorn tries his best. #StarTrek #StPatricksDay pic.twitter.com/YxBcKxqJUe— TrekCore.com ➡️Spoilers After Saturday @ 9AM ET⬅️ (@TrekCore) March 17, 2018
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 August 2020 20:46 (five months ago) link
Season 1 is fascinatingly ropey and for the most part quite entertaining if you don't mind that sort of thing. "11001001" is a fun Riker/Picard hangout episode - it's actually quite rare to see them together, being informal! - and "Consipiracy" at the end of the season is a total classic, with one of the most WTF moments in the history of Trek (you'll know it when you see it).
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 7 August 2020 23:19 (five months ago) link
I thought this most recent revive was going to be about this:
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 August 2020 00:11 (five months ago) link
― jmm, Monday, 10 August 2020 02:08 (five months ago) link
Of course Quentin Tarantino's Star Trek was based on the old-timey gangster onehttps://news.avclub.com/of-course-quentin-tarantinos-star-trek-was-based-on-the-1844660190
― wasdnous (abanana), Monday, 10 August 2020 03:13 (five months ago) link
FWIW I mildly enjoyed Lower Decks, unexpected gore and all.
― Garry Shambling (Leee), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 23:52 (five months ago) link
CBS AA had been posting a bunch of Short Treks and the first episode of Lower Decks on YouTube.
Latest episode of LD the best one so far.
― Ruth Bae Ginsburg (Leee), Sunday, 23 August 2020 16:53 (five months ago) link
Latest episode of LD the best one so far.― Ruth Bae Ginsburg (Leee), Sunday, August 23, 2020 9:53 AM bookmarkflaglink
― Ruth Bae Ginsburg (Leee), Sunday, August 23, 2020 9:53 AM bookmarkflaglink
This again. The show seems to be hitting its stride; each episode has been better than the last and the sly references were great.
― Ruth Bae Ginsburg (Leee), Sunday, 6 September 2020 00:29 (four months ago) link
And to put in some more effort to selling the show: It's an antidote to the vogue of current Trek to pitch everything at the most galaxy-encompassing levels, where so much of what Captain X does is quadrant-defining. Granted, that's happened with every iteration of Trek (in my favorite series, the Captain is an actual messiah), but I think this is where the episodic nature of pre-2010s Trek helps out -- mythology/arc episodes were broken up with standalones (which may still center around galaxy-threatening conflicts). With Disco and Picard, though, nearly every episode sets phasers to EPICOMGWTF! and center around the same plot.
So a show about Starfleet nerds and underachievers is kind of perfect. It's frivolous and lighthearted, but it's not trashy; it's been investing Boimler and Mariner with some real character work, as much as you can get away with in a 20-something minute cartoon that drops references to double-fisted punches.
― Ruth Bae Ginsburg (Leee), Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:35 (four months ago) link
I'm glad to hear LD isn't trashy. That's the last thing I want from Trek.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 6 September 2020 21:33 (four months ago) link
It’s a little trashy; at least as far as the animation and voice acting conjures American Dad.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 7 September 2020 03:55 (four months ago) link
yeah that's what steered me off it... I may check it out yet
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 7 September 2020 06:11 (four months ago) link
we have been watching LD, up until this last week’s ep i was only doing so grudgingly but it it is improving & i enjoyed it for the first timemr veg finds it all deeply nerdy therefore v enjoyable
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 September 2020 06:16 (four months ago) link
We've been slowly going through Voyager, episode by episode. It's been very weird but there are some excellent episodes
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:22 (three months ago) link
I love voyager, no apols Paris, Kim and Torres are super dud of course
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:40 (three months ago) link
I think Chakotay is the one I dislike the most.
Seven of Nine is my favorite at the moment, we're in season 4 after the Hirogen holodeck/WW2 kerfuffle.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 October 2020 16:32 (three months ago) link
And I should say that I dislike Chakotay the most because of the truly racist way he's written, not anything else about his character, which is fine.
I dislike Paris and Torres, but have a soft spot for Kim, even tho it turns out he was the reason Kes got axed from the show...
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 October 2020 16:36 (three months ago) link
What did Kim have to do with it? It seemed kind of obvious the writers didn't like the character and also made the decision to "swap" her out with Seven of Nine.
― Nhex, Saturday, 24 October 2020 17:26 (three months ago) link
they were planning on cutting kim, but then the actor got listed in a "hottest actors" magazine listicle, so they went with kes instead.
they should have replaced half of the cast imo. so much dead weight that the writers didn't care about.
― wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 24 October 2020 17:48 (three months ago) link
Poor chakotay and the gd synth flutes that waft in whenever his ethnicity is in play Nonetheless he is one of the assets of the show, along with the cap’m, the dr, 7, and, yes, neelix, fuck you I like neelix.
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 October 2020 17:53 (three months ago) link
I think Ebert said something about whether he'd rather watch the actors eat dinner than watch them in the movie as a metric for how badly they're used.I feel that applies to all the cast, but which does it apply to most?
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 24 October 2020 18:59 (three months ago) link
I’m not sure I follow you exactly but my favorite Star Trek characters are exactly those whom I would rather watch having dinner
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:49 (three months ago) link
https://i2.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/genesis2.jpgToday is a good day to dine!
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 25 October 2020 01:27 (three months ago) link
Watching so much DS9 in recent months underscores how much more interesting Worf got when he came onto that show
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 26 October 2020 15:22 (three months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/0EUl6s4KYa— Valondar (@VK_HM) December 9, 2020
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:37 (one month ago) link
― DJI, Friday, 18 December 2020 16:07 (one month ago) link