UK Watercooler 32: Fall Into The Meaning Gap

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Playground for bored sociopaths, that would be us.

Or maybe not.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Here is a picture of a helicopter, to get things started:

http://tourism.vic.gov.au/piecesofvictoria/july_2006/i/3075587.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I have just sent out an email about the Rolling London Psychogeographical Society/Association walk so if you wanted one and didn't get one, let me know and I will forward.

Sunday, 16th May 1pm meet at St. Pancras Station. The second leg of the River Fleet walk, St. Pancras to Highgate.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

HELICOPTERS!

I am in a bounce mood because I have to interview a certain rock chick. K8 would approve. Veil of discretion in place until it happens as is older, entitled, fractious rock chick.

And to reply to question posited before thread-snap, YES there is an erk mine eyes element to the fiction where a para or two provides enough fuel for 'I saw and it sucked'. Makes the NEL Library look like Proust...

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think braincells have committed hari-kiri rather than process it.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I have just eaten my first creme egg in years. (Yes, I know, it's still Lent, hush.) They're not really very nice, are they? Completely too sweet! Disgustingly sweet. Where did my sugartooth go?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

creme eggs are for sugarTONGUE not tooth

emsk, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to love them. I used to eat about 4 at a time and roll about the floor in a kind of daze. Now I find them revolting. I hate growing up.

:-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I have just discovered the "indie rock boys with cats" group on Flickr! This is even better than catsinsinks.com! Two great tastes that go great together.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to eat about 4 at a time

Impossible! (French accent preferred)

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I did! Well, one after another in about five minutes. I don't know why I don't have diabetes! I deserve to. But it was fun. Same reason I ate the carrot cake. It felt like being on drugs!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I imagine some kinda heavy-duty industrial cleaning machine, such as that used in the restoration of St. Paul's Cathedral, must have been needed on your teeth aftewards

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, the absinthe took care of that.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Supposedly the headhunter who got me this job tried to call me yesterday, but there was no missed calls on my phone.

So she emailed me today saying to call her and tell her how I was getting on. I'm kinda scared to, because I can't be positive about this job. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO. But at the same time, I am wary of killing the goose that lays golden eggs.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

OH! YES!!!!

http://www.fluffhouse.org.uk/lynnette/stuff/mappe2.jpg

(linked because it is too big to post)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link

More Fleety goodness:

http://www.sub-urban.com/fleet/

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

You can get Cadbury's Caramel eggs now too. I'd bet they are much sweeter.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to eat those, too. One of those would probably kill me now.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

So I take it the McFlurry remix now also out of the question?

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I have successfully given up McDonalds completely.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I prefer kfc

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I prefer Chicken Cottage.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I got this in today http://www.enemieslist.net/homerecordings/?page_id=6

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Have a read at http://www.enemieslist.net/homerecordings/

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.enemieslist.net/homerecordings/?page_id=2

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Every time I see or hear the words 'chicken cottage' in tandem I think of a public toilet full of teenaged rent boys. The chickens, doggie style logo does not exactly help here. I have said so before...

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Death of Marat, the cover, isn't it?

Pashmina, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Does not display for me, whatever it is.

Ohmigod, I actually managed to waste a whole hour cleaning out my inbox on OKCupid. I forgot I even had a profile.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

It's http://www.enemieslist.net/cr.jpg
http://www.enemieslist.net/dccover.gif
HAVE A NICE LIFE - “Deathconsciousness”
el01 - 10$ + shipping (2.50$ US, 4.50 CAN, 9.00 Everywhere Else). Run of only 200.

“Contextually awe-inspiring…a lo-fi masterpiece.” - sputnikmusic

The debut double-record from Connecticut’s HAVE A NICE LIFE. Shoegaze, drone, and New Wave combine to create what has been already been called one of the best records of 2008. For fans of MY BLOODY VALENTINE, ALCEST, SWANS, THE CURE.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

There's even a thread on them have a nice life -- who the fuck are these guys?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

WHAT IS DEATHCONSCIOUSNESS?

Deathconsciousness refers to three things:

It refers to the debut double album from HAVE A NICE LIFE, featuring over 4 years and 2 hours worth of recorded material. All songs have been re-recorded, remixed, and remastered, including the songs from our demo release, Powers of Ten.

It refers to the short book of the same name that accompanies the record. Over 80 pages in length, written by a University of Massachusetts History professor, this book explores the deep religious symbology we used for inspiration while writing the record. The songs contain elaborate references to 12th century apostasies; the book will help those without a background in religious history to understand their meanings.

And, finally, Deathconsciousness is the concept that lies at the heart of the record itself: the overwhelming awareness, at all times, of death and it's proximity.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, that sleeve's a bit meh

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

They sound like something I'd hate. It's actually got to the point where anyone who starts talking about how "shoegaze" they are... I don't like them. And I'm sick to the back teeth of metal.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh well I guess you wont be wanting a cdr of that then.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, I'm just really not in a mood to be listening to new music at the moment. I'm feeling pretty down on everything.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

It's actually got to the point where anyone who starts talking about how "shoegaze" they are... I don't like them. And I'm sick to the back teeth of metal.

That's exactly what happened with "krautrock"... also metal = bollocks, for the most part

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/haveanicelife for anyone who wants a taster

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I suppose this is what happens when a genre becomes a bit trendy. It's not even so much bandwaggon jumpers as people who just namedrop whatever's trendy.

Or else they listen to said genre, take whatever is most immediately obvious about whatever it is, and don't actually fulfill what it is that you actually like about the original genre in the first place.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I shoegaze trendy? I never got that memo.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

You got it around the time you attended that Seven Dwarves gig! Were you not paying attention?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"I Shoegaze Trendy" - mind if I file that away in my 'possible album title' folder?

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(The problem is, a lot of people seem to be either discovering shoegaze through, or thinking that shoegaze = the Brian Jonestown Massacre. A band who haven't been shoegaze in any sense since 1995.)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I was distracted by hot keyboardist from holy rollers.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

It's an anagram of:

Heady Stereo Zing

xpost

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Wrong gig! That was Freelovebabies! The Seven Dwarves were playing with Kontakte and I didn't think you find any of them hott!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Then you get old fans getting uppity about people discovering their music ;)

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

aha, I had driven from Belgium to be there and was a little spaced out.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

j/k btw
xpost

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Look, if people would discover and be "influenced by" stuff like Medicine, SeeFeel, the Pale Saints, Lush even... fine! But they go and listen to one Ride album and one MBV album and then go about making boring floppy music for boring floppy people. If I see one more picture of four white blokes standing in a field looking a bit moody I'm gonna hurl. Not to name names or anything, but a band a couple of my mates have been trying to get me to listen to, but then I go and look at their MySpace and there's a picture of this:

http://a632.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/82/l_228758998cc0d89c774d013d25e057d7.jpg

...and I just think... my god, how boring.

I mean, maybe just maybe I might give them a chance if any of them were hott. But no! Just boring looking.

Yeah, I know, you can't judge a book by its cover. But you CAN judge a band by their promo photos.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

haha Ed are you spying on us?

G00blar, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Why not make a pass at him?

xpost

I have eyes everywhere.

Ed, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

My MBV tickets just arrived. TBH I thought they already had, it's been so long since I ordered them.

Anyone know who the support is? I can't remember if it's been announced.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Because he's half my age!

And we all know what happened the last time I made a pass at a folk singer half my age, and how awfully that turned out. I'm never making a pass at anyone ever again.

However, I would like to take him to a folk night. I like it when he does folk a lot better than when he does The Demon Jazz.

If he thinks I want to sleep with him, then he'll stop posing for me. And I need a life model more than a shag. I think. Anyway, he is a JAZZ singer, ugh. This is just the Pygmalion effect because I've been drawing him so much. He's not a mang, he's just lines and planes and angles and curves and giant swhirlies for chest hair.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post no, the MBV support has not been announced, but odds on it will be Le Volume Corbe. Bah. I need to remind D about my tickets - oh yes, and pay her for them.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Travel curtailed, Ed? What's up with that?

suzy, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Where is Martin Carthy playing?

Tom D., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Magpie's Nest - at the Queens Head on Essex Road. I have to get there double early, not just to snag a sofa but to make sure I get in at all!

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

That's (fairly) near me, I might have gone, but busy tonight + he plays all the time anyway

Tom D., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

What a bloody performance!

I did, in the end, manage to vote. But only after having to go down to Lambeth Town Hall and pitch a fit and threaten to chain myself to their railings. Bloody clerical error, a nonsense! But at least I finally have proof my neighbours are stealing my mail.

How did everyone else in London get on?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

No problems at all although I was a bit peturbed by someone with a labour rosette sitting in the hallway of the polling station, i didn't think that was allowed.

Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Polling station was deserted - of voters that is. Was greeted by the polling station staff like the return of the prodigal son, I thought they were going to offer me a cup of tea and a slice of cake

Tom D., Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm going after work. I did finally get my polling card a couple of days ago.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Is that a recent thing? My dad always had to do that - i.e. sit in a Labour rosette at the polling station. x-post

I am quite glad that I pitched a fit. It really is worth doing sometimes. It's quite a hard trick to get right. To make it clear that you *will* lose your temper and Cause A Scene if the jobsworthy does not do what he ought, while not actually losing your temper enough to be removed.

I was so angry that I ended up voting Green all the way through, simply wanting to get the smug (and proved now to be incompetent) Lib Dems out of my ward.

And now this is what I got up to last night. I'm really not sure what it's about, but it's quite filthy. Tra la la. 'Duke has put my portrait on his MySpace. Tee hee.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/21171554@N00/2456742702/"; title="demi-vierge kind of life by Masonic Boom, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2456742702_ee8605b4ea_o.jpg"; width="433" height="600" alt="demi-vierge kind of life" /></a>

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, blast! Here are those nipples:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2456742702_ee8605b4ea_o.jpg

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Did KL get your second pref for Mayor?

Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes. I had to check it three times, because my hand kept twitching in this insane manner towards Boris, but I made sure to put the tick in the right - i.e. Labour box.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Whew!

G00blar, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it was more the way he was positioned behind a desk that he looked at first like the ballot officials. He wanted my poll card number and I certainly wasn't going to give it to him.

Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Fucking hell, deluge in CR4.

Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK I'M VOTING FOR BORIS?!?!? HAS HELL FROZEN OVER?!?!?

OK, hail in Croydon perhaps, which means it's heading our way. Blast, I was going to go to Wimbledon to buy candles. I always need candles for sketching - a trait I've discovered I share with my hero, Aubrey Beardsley!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Will vote tonight when I get home from work. I love polling days - our ballot station is in the church hall at the end of the road, and they wheel out the same battered signs and ballot boxes that must have been in service since the war. I always half expect to have to choose between Atlee and Churchill.

Dr.C, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Our polling station is in the Library, and they're very brisk and modern. I would be afraid to vote Conservative in there.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I am trying to get Marmaduke back for another session. This time in costume. Since he claims to be descended from a philandering Sea Captain... well!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I love polling day too, and I'm slightly disappointed that I don't get a vote this time around. No seats in our ward are up for election.

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 1 May 2008 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.blastfirstpetite.com/

ADVANCE ORDERS TAKEN. £35 with orders despatched 19th May 2008
In stores 16th June 2008

Limited edition of 3000, x 6 CD set of high quality "audio verite" recordings of Suicide playing live in September 1977 to August 1978 ! As you will hear, a crucial year in Suicide's development and their mission to stretch the label of Punk Rock to the very limit.
Plus a 64 page booklet of Suicide & Red Star Records memorabilia from the personal archives of Howard Thompson, the A&R man that signed Suicide to UK Bronze Records.
Only the infamous "23 Minutes Over Brussels" has been released before !!
All mastered by Denis Blackham for optimum listening pleasure.

DISC 1 1977 NYC [46:52]
1 SUICIDE CBGB Sept 29 1977 24:43
2 SUICIDE CBGB Dec 3 1977 set2 22:09

DISC 2 1978 NYC [71:21]
1 SUICIDE The Palladium NYC Jan 7 1978 21:45
2 SUICIDE Maxs Jan 13 1978 22:55
3 SUICIDE CBGB Feb 3 1978 26:41

DISC 3 1978 BELGIUM/FRANCE [70:42]
1 SUICIDE Brussels June 16 1978 23:44
2 SUICIDE Paris Olympia+Backstage June 18 1978 46:58

DISC 4 1978 GERMANY [68:29]
1 SUICIDE Hamburg Audiomax June 28 1978 21:26
2 SUICIDE Berlin Kant Kino/Neue Welt June 30 1978 22:42
3 SUICIDE Berlin Kant Kino/Neue Welt June 30 1978 set2 24:21

DISC 5 1978 UK [64:17]
1 SUICIDE London MusicMachine July 24 1978 25:37
2 SUICIDE Our Price Radio Ad 1:09
3 SUICIDE Erics Liverpool July 29 1978 31:12
4 SUICIDE Erics pt 2 Frankie Teardrop July 29 1978 6:19

DISC 6 1978 NYC [AFTER EUROPE] [43:35]

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Christ, that must be hard going. Bits of the first 2 albums are OK, but all the live stuff I've heard has been unendurable!

Dr.C, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

If I had the cash I'd buy it.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

My ears, my ears! I do love them, but live... um, no.

God, are the election results going to be as depressing as they look like they will be? I said I'd put my house on the market and move if Boris got in. Am I going to have to put my mortgage where my mouth is?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

But the live stuff with the reissue of the first album was great (not the Live In Brussels stuff)

Tom D., Friday, 2 May 2008 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

The 'Duke has not responded to my email asking him to come in for another session, so I guess that's the end of that. :-(

Stupid models, why are they so flighty?

Where can I find a man who will just come in, take his clothes off, do what he's told, and then come back when I need to do a sketch?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Bloody computer just crashed. I hate web cafes. I was in such a good mood, where did it go? Life is always good until the invariable disappointment comes. I've got to go to a wedding this afternoon. Back to Brixton Town Hall again. I wonder if the registry office will be as disorganised.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah well, at least I found Blue Flower on YouTube. (Pale Saints version, which is, I think my favourite.)

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Today is just going to be depressing, isn't it? Oh, sod the load of this.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Depressing. I am very glad that Kaet went sensible about Boris as soon as he started actually being political, as I am at least thankful that (*fingers crossed*) I don't know anyone who voted for him. I do feel slightly hypocritical about the rest of the country, as I really hate the New Labour government... but I am actually starting to feel sick to my stomach...

emil.y, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

In the interests of "change", "entertainment" or whatever, a bunch of people just landed everyone in London with the conservative equivalent of derek hatton for the next 4 years. WTG, idiots, bah. What a depressing day for the UK.

Pashmina, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Asda are bringing back ltd edition Opal Fruits but only for a few weeks

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

So in the interests of trying to divert my attention from the horrors of the mayoral election, I have found a blog with what purports to be the entire Derek Bailey discography. Anyone have any recommendations where to start with this?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Ask Tom D, he once had a letter in The Wire about him!

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe everyones away to Asda now.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Opal Fruits or no Opal Fruits, Asda are still evil.

Forest Pines Mk2, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

From now on, I am just going to pretend that the Japanese Noise Metal band are running London.

Meet the new Mayor:

http://thephoenix.com/onthedownload/content/binary/boris%2007%201.jpg

Masonic Boom, Saturday, 3 May 2008 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to have no boys to draw, now I have entirely too many! I'm drawing the pretty guitarist from Youthmovies tonight! Life is good.

Is it time for a new 'Cooler, or is there just not enough traffic any more?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I say go for it.

Any luck with the head hunters?

Ed, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Thirty Three? and a third?

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

No luck with headhunters. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, new thread time.

emil.y, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

bah well at least the weather is nice. I am going to go an eat my cuban sandwich in morden hall park.

Ed, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link


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