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i love this movie
― n/a, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
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― n/a, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
It's amazing, easily Alexander Payne's best.
― chap, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
...and Reece Witherspoon, Matthew Broderick, and dear Chris Klein's.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
close call between this and Freeway for Reese
― milo z, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I went to college with an aspiring writer named Tom Perrotta, who would frequently get email from people asking about "his" books and career. I assume this film made that happen a lot more often.
― nabisco, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I liked "About Schmidt" better, but I'm a sucker for road movies.
But that scene where Nicholson gets in a slap-fight with the guy who fucked his wife... priceless.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
this is better than about schmidt, but it's better than everything - a perfect movie
listening to the commentary on this its amazing to see how effortless it is considering what an obsessive, autistic level of detail payne brought to it
― and what, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
'this is another lincoln... i had a bit of a lincoln thing in this, a light lincoln theme...' huh??
i remember SOMEBODY on ILE hating on this - maybe Alex In SF
― blueski, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
GET HIM
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I did like in the commentary how Payne said that the whole movie could 've been called "The Janitor's Revenge".
Maybe it's just Nicholson vs Broderick. Neat how he's got Ferris Bueller on the other side of the desk and Robert Dubea accepting no substitutions.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link
easily payne's best, long way down thereafter. payne is a snooty dbag who claims he's never seen 'ferris bueller's day off' and got lucky with this one.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I loved and still love Election but was kinda indifferent to About Schmidt. As far as latter-day Nicholson-offerings, I enjoyed "Something's Gotta Give" way more. But, I also liked Sidways lots, so take that as you will...
― dell, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link
i've enjoyed all of his movies but "election" is easily the best. kind of a transition between the pure nastiness of "citizen ruth" and the more human "about schmidt" and "sideways," maybe?
i love it when he throws his pepsi at the limo
― n/a, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link
About Schmidt is terrible.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link
This film is so redemptive as far as any misgivings I may have had regarding Matthew Broderick.
― dell, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link
why would you have misgivings about matthew broderick? other than sarah jessica parker?
― n/a, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link
i remember liking about schmidt but i only saw it the one time, i've seen election like four or five times and this thread is about election
― n/a, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link
jaymc, have you seen election? what did you think?
I liked it. I don't remember much about it, though. Kr said the other night (after we watched this) that she wasn't a fan, but I forgot to follow up. You should ask her the next time you see her.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link
this film is great - his other stuff is all pretty meh (altho Citizen Ruth is funny, copout ending notwithstanding. About Schmidt and Sideways both really annoyed me)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link
"fuck me mr. mcallister"
Just vague misgivings, like sjp, I guess...I dunno.
― dell, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link
election -- great citizen ruth -- pretty good sideways -- eh about schmidt -- zzzzz
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link
paul... popular.... peanut
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess I sometimes conflate actors with their roles. In that respect I love his character's all-too-human qualities in Election as contrasted with Ferris Bueller. I mean, I like the Ferris Bueller movie lots, and I recognize the faults of the character underneath the smugness, but still, for me Election played partly as an examination of the Broderick character's vulnerabilities that were glossed over in Bueller. That's a fucked-up way to read movies, I guess, but there ya go.
Wasn't there a discussion on some film thread here about Bueller's sociopathic tendencies?
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I absolutely loved Sideways the first time I saw it (maybe because I watched it directly after Closer, one of the most loathsome films ever made). Second time I thought it had some great jokes, but was ultimately quite annoying and full of itself.
xpost - I can totally see how Bueller is a sociopath! Still a top film though.
― chap, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I took a lot of shit for pointing out that Beuller's basically an unsympathetic exploitative asshole embodying Reagan-era rich-white-selfishness... but what do I know
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link
lol at actually taking Ferris Bueller seriously as a character study.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link
sideways -- eh
I held out on watching this for 4 years, and when I finally did, it rocked me. But then I am thirty-three.
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I wouldn't say I take it seriously, I just don't enjoy it
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Election's a 9 or 10, Sideways a 7 or 8, About Schmidt a 6
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Ferris Bueller's been worse to the youth vote than standardized testing. But points to John Hughes for the Bryan Ferry poster on Bueller's wall.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay, yeah...it wasn't even a proper Bueller thread, though, was it? I'm thinking that it was one of those Apatow throwdowns or something.
Some of the scenes between him and Cameron always struck me weirdly poignant though...there is all kinds of crazy manipulative, but at the same time, knowingly manipulative shit going on there, which always fucks me up.
One of my excuses for enjoying Sideways is my love for the Ned and Stacey dude.
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link
blueski pretty much Otm.
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Though I might downgrade About Schmidt a notch...is one of the only reasons that people latched onto that film b/c Nicholson was playing against type/his persona? Because, if so, I think that was dealt with more gracefully and subtly in Something's Gotta Give.
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link
i remember enjoying About Schmidt but it left very little impression on me. It seems to be HATED by some people though. I should watch it again.
― chap, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i don't get the hate, maybe it was too plodding...LIKE AN OLD MAN.
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I dunno; personally, I don't think it's so crazy to read it as being a sad Reagan years update on The Wild One or Rebel...
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link
It seems to be HATED by some people though.
Speaking for myself, I felt this way probably as a reaction to the over-praising it got from critics. I went in expecting something extraordinary. What I got was merely charming and pleasant.
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link
is one of the only reasons that people latched onto that film b/c Nicholson was playing against type/his persona?
One of the reasons I hated that film is that I could detect Nicholson's congratulating himself at playing against type. Plus, the emotions at the end aren't earned when most of the film is about pratfalls, caricatures, and other cheap jokes.
― jaymc, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link
LIKE AN OLD MAN
Yeah, but one thing I remember from watching it is that it seemed like he was playing his version of a caricature of an old man...as great as an actor as he is, I think that his personal eternally arrested adolescent lifestyle led to it being too much of a stretch to take plausibly.
Again, I think Something's Gotta Give took a more honest take on that whole territory, at least as far as Nicholson's performance is concerned.
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link
btw Nicholson HATED Ferris Bueller -- "are these kids trying to put me out of business?" or something.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Really? Wow...
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link
haha otm."you wrong biscuit buying slut!!!"
― electricsound, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, that show ruled!
Nicholson begrudging Bueller just seems weird, though; there are any number of his performances that one could point to which are filled with such nuance and depth that they put F.B. to shame. It goes without saying that there are no Five Easy Pieces or Carnal Knowledges or what have you in John Hughes' resume.
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, but the audience at whom FB is aimed is expected to applaud FB for his embrace of Reagan-esque values.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
sideways is some bullshit.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost
Seriously? I thought it was just aimed at a generic, politically-unaligned teen audience. I guess I'm not sure what you're saying.
― dell, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link
That's a better analogy--although there's some Nixon in Hillary, too. (I won't post the infamous Obama/Hillary/Election video from 2008 yet again. And hope this doesn't veer off into one more Hillary discussion...)
― clemenza, Monday, 19 February 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
does Tracy at any point feel guilt for her part in ruining Dave's life? I don't remember.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
I keep coming back to this film, especially because I work in education. I just love how almost all the characters are deeply flawed people who are almost always portrayed in a sympathetic way while they do dumb things without much in the way of self awareness. This really tallies with my experience of life in general.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 19 February 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
(xpost) I don't think she does, and I don't think she needs to--that's what's hashed out in the scene in McAlister's office, when he calls her in about the destroyed posters. He tries to tell her that she needs to take responsibility for her part in ruining a guy's career, and she totally destroys that idea.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 February 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
yeah i always thought the film explicitly sided with Tracy as the hero.
I don't get how anyone can watch this movie and think there's a "hero" in it
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 February 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
she pays lip service to him in v.o., but it's not really sincere ("i miss our talks," and then iirc, something like "he should've know what he was getting into" and then that hilarious moment when she says "i hope he's doing well, working on his novel" -cut to dave pricing beans in a grocery store)
or, rather, public perceptions of Hillary.
yes, but not strictly that. ultimately tracy is an aspirational figure: escaped out of omaha with noble political goals. she may be motivated by typical politician narcissism, but she has good intentions. she's not a corrupt figure
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
I found the kid who counted votes (and who spit on McAlister's car) the most insufferable of them all. I've known quite a few of these literalist by-the-book self-righteous types (and, of course, he is correct and McAlister looks even worse when he suggests the kid's incompetent).
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link
She has intentions fuelled only by ambition and narciscissm she's no heroine
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Monday, 19 February 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link
xxxp it's not clear cut but Tracy is absolutely the hero- emerging out of a broken home, a fucked up relationship, and serious ratfucking by a vengeful middle-aged man. not to mention the entire student body aligned against her. again, the last scene makes it obvious imo
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
Camaraderie @ AL, that's a good description of why I feel no need to see this again despite loving it. Just like dozens of other movies I loved in the theater on first viewing and they're really important to me and I'll never, ever need to watch them again because so much of everyday life and us assholes who populate it are reminders of the themes, scenes and feelings from the film.
flappy bird your reading of Tracy's character is bonkers
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Monday, February 19, 2018 12:59 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this describes 99% of politicians, and while i don't necessarily disagree, she at least focuses her ambition toward a more noble goal than everyone else in the film.
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
49% of the student body != the entire student body, your argument sucks
(xposts) I like that guy! I don't think he was self-righteous, he just knew he'd counted the votes correctly and was perplexed as to why the numbers didn't add up. (Spitting on the car was just kind of flourish to punctuate McAlister's abject downfall--maybe didn't need to be there.)
― clemenza, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
Tracy really doesn't need to have any sympathy for Dave, but her reaction is more interesting as she views the relationship through this prism of individual responsibility rather than personal feelings of animosity for having taken advantage of her.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
yea it's actually very reminiscent of Monica Lewinsky's view of her relationship with Bill Clinton, which is coincidental because her interview with Barbara Walters aired the same month Election came out.
@tombot - good point, tho tbf we never hear from any Tracy stans. but you're right
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link
and actually i'd argue that that is another analogue to HRC- the disinterest and derision crowds out the considerable support
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
Tracy's politics are never explicitly stated, but it's clear she is going to be a callous Randian type, this film is sympathetic with her as a person but clearly she is going to be a normal, horrible career politician.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
The movie does not presuppose that we the audience consider 99% of politicians as heroes cmon man down if this horse before you throw a fit
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
perhaps, but considering Tracy's circumstances, her goals & her path are aspirational if not inspirational. every character has major trauma, Tracy and Tammy are the only ones that don't let it curdle their souls
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link
The vote counting kid is a good example of people trusting rules and procedures to an almost pathological level, this seems to be a plague on the UK right now.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
The other thing is--and you have to step back a bit from Tracy herself--is that she's obviously right: the idea that anyone would vote for Paul before her to run anything is ludicrous.
That's the funny thing about the film -- this is about high school students! I know there are student councils in rare schools that have a voice, but the stakes are so incredibly low, even when you listen to Tracy's campaign platform. Outside of organizing some student events, the most they do is make some recommendations to the administration. It's so incredibly low-stakes, and in a lot of schools it plays out as a popularity contest with a few students genuinely wanting to affect change (or pad their pre-college resumes).
This is one of the movies I've seen a number of times over the years where my life experience really colors my perception. The juxtaposition of each character's inner monologue and their actions on screen, along with how they appear to the audience, is where it really shines.
Paul's inner monologue is the best, obviously
― mh, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link
I think the challenge the film and the novel took on is how to make Tracy not the obvious hero of the story - there are no good people or winners in Tom Perrotta novels afaict - despite all of the traditionally unassailable attributes of the responsible, hard working underdog accruing in her favor. IMHO they pulled it off by making her as narcissistic and unabashedly ambitious as Jim is needy and feckless.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
I think Senator Flick would be Nebraska's own Susan Collins fwiw
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
always lol at "then we'd go to my house to fuck and have a hot tub"
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
I graduated from high school the year Election was released and, at the time, Tracy reminded me of one of my classmates. There was an incident where, related to an extracurricular group I was involved in, the teacher running it got angry at her lack of attention and snapped, "If you were actually interested in this instead of having to be in every group and making it about you, you'd pay attention!" and she was in tears. I only heard about it when she showed up to the next class and couldn't regain her composure.
I mean, in retrospect, he wasn't wrong, but it wasn't something to snap at a kid about. At the time, I definitely didn't see that.
― mh, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
NB, I ran for student prez on Tammy's platform (dissolve the SGA) as a junior in college, one year before this movie came out, and even got a referendum on the ballot to that effect (we only got something like 47% of the vote for the referendum so it didn't even get put before the senate). All the kids I ran against were variations on Paul and Tracy.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
Election is like bueller in that ppl always inform you that you shouldn't sympathise with Matthew Broderick like they're imparting the secret of the fucking universe when it's like no duhTracy is obv way more compelling but being asked to find her inspirational reminds me a bit of the "hire more women guards" gag
― scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link
well yeah exactly. i said that she's HRC
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link
She's not compelling at all rly
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
Election is like bueller in that ppl always inform you that you shouldn't sympathise with Matthew Broderick like they're imparting the secret of the fucking universe when it's like no duh
As a person who was a kid when Ferris Beuller came out and saw it in theaters, let me assure you that millions of people around the world need to have it explained to them why you shouldn't sympathize with Matthew Broderick, and I was one of them
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
Ferris is an entitled little shit, yes, but if you take Roger Ebert's reading of the film--that his motivation for the day off was help his friend gain some self-respect--he becomes a lot more bearable.
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
I thought netflix’s American Vandal had a character that was pretty reminiscent of Dave, although younger
― mh, Monday, 19 February 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
That is a misreading xp
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
How so?
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
Because that is not his motivation
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
― Guayaquil (eephus!),
and still do.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link
Not only is it not his motivation, it's exactly the story Bueller tells himself about himself in order to avoid having to understand and accept who he really is
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
Tammy is the hero, duh.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 19 February 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
Ferris Bueller is about wish fulfillment for teens, thinking you can break the rules and do magic and be celebrated for it
Election is not quite the opposite, but it does make you wonder why people think their actions are ever truly in the service of their goals
― mh, Monday, 19 February 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
Tammy isn't a hero she's the easy popularity of the opt out slacker
― DUMPKINS! (darraghmac), Monday, 19 February 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link
she gets the girl, though
― mh, Monday, 19 February 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
90s chicks loved opt-out slackers
― DUMPKINS! (darraghmac), Monday, 19 February 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link
New Sequel Novel: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tracy-Flick-Cant-Win/Tom-Perrotta/9781501144066?
Tracy Flick is a hardworking assistant principal at a public high school in suburban New Jersey. Still ambitious but feeling a little stuck and underappreciated in midlife, Tracy gets a jolt of good news when the longtime principal, Jack Weede, abruptly announces his retirement, creating a rare opportunity for Tracy to ascend to the top job.Energized by the prospect of her long-overdue promotion, Tracy throws herself into her work with renewed zeal, determined to prove her worth to the students, faculty, and School Board, while also managing her personal life—a ten-year-old daughter, a needy doctor boyfriend, and a burgeoning meditation practice. But nothing ever comes easily to Tracy Flick, no matter how diligent or qualified she happens to be.Among her many other responsibilities, Tracy is enlisted to serve on the Selection Committee for the brand-new Green Meadow High School Hall of Fame. Her male colleagues’ determination to honor Vito Falcone—a star quarterback of dubious character who had a brief, undistinguished career in the NFL—triggers bad memories for Tracy, and leads her to troubling reflections about the trajectory of her own life and the forces that have left her feeling thwarted and disappointed, unable to fulfill her true potential.As she broods on the past, Tracy becomes aware of storm clouds brewing in the present. Is she really a shoo-in for the Principal job? Is the Superintendent plotting against her? Why is the School Board President’s wife trying so hard to be her friend? And why can’t she ever get what she deserves?
Energized by the prospect of her long-overdue promotion, Tracy throws herself into her work with renewed zeal, determined to prove her worth to the students, faculty, and School Board, while also managing her personal life—a ten-year-old daughter, a needy doctor boyfriend, and a burgeoning meditation practice. But nothing ever comes easily to Tracy Flick, no matter how diligent or qualified she happens to be.
Among her many other responsibilities, Tracy is enlisted to serve on the Selection Committee for the brand-new Green Meadow High School Hall of Fame. Her male colleagues’ determination to honor Vito Falcone—a star quarterback of dubious character who had a brief, undistinguished career in the NFL—triggers bad memories for Tracy, and leads her to troubling reflections about the trajectory of her own life and the forces that have left her feeling thwarted and disappointed, unable to fulfill her true potential.
As she broods on the past, Tracy becomes aware of storm clouds brewing in the present. Is she really a shoo-in for the Principal job? Is the Superintendent plotting against her? Why is the School Board President’s wife trying so hard to be her friend? And why can’t she ever get what she deserves?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
Would have thought she'd end up at Fox.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
...or married to Ted Cruz
https://thumbnails.texastribune.org/jacMx0hZvy7S7E0Ul9HikzknMnM=/850x570/smart/filters:quality(75)/https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/02/26/Heidi-5.jpg
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
https://theplaylist.net/tracy-flick-cant-win-an-election-sequel-is-in-the-works-at-paramount-with-reese-witherspoon-director-alexander-payne-returning-20221208/
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 December 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link
I felt this movie was pretty perfect and felt quietly happy that the book sequel didn't make much of a splash but, well, I guess there's gonna be another movie. With Payne and Witherspoon involved I guess it's likely to be as good as it can be, but -- I sort of don't want it.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 December 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link
(checks Alexander Payne filmography, confirms suspicion that Alexander Payne peaked with Election 23 years ago) Yeah, I don't think I need this.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 December 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link
I've liked a couple of Payne films since then, but an Election sequel seems quite unnecessary (and will interfere with the fun of trying to imagine where Tracy ended up).
― clemenza, Friday, 9 December 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link
Y’all seen this? It’s pretty obscure and was allegedly discovered at a flea market in 2011. Even the Criterion didn’t have it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhezOPupmj4
― piscesx, Friday, 9 December 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link