Come Anticipate Martin McDonagh's 'In Bruges'

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Best playwright since Mamet. Another hitman movie. But it looks good.

Eazy, Sunday, 13 January 2008 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Ralph Fiennes looks great...rest of movie, not so sure.

Simon H., Sunday, 13 January 2008 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

should be interesting. he's claimed he only used theatre as a steppingstone to film.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 13 January 2008 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll be seeing it, along with that new(ish) Woody Allen flick that Farrell is in. I think this is the first time I can say I've been looking forward to one Colin Farrell movie, let alone two.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 January 2008 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

My friend was in his play on Broadway for a while, Lieutenant of Inishmore. He saw this at the weekend and said it was really good, trailer looks a bit "Lock Stock" but I've an open mind so far.

Ronan, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Trailer was a bit off putting but there were a few funny lines in it. Could be worth a punt.

Ed, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Saw Colin Farrell in Bruges when he was filming this.

I know, right?, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

That is all

I know, right?, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i keep wanting this thread to be about michael mcdonald

kenan, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

It's an even funnier Colin F trailer than the Woody Allen 'thriller.'

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

this looks terrible

dmr, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

From his plays, I expect the film won't be quite as "antic" as the trailer.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked "The Pillowman" quite a bit but I haven't seen any of the other plays. thought Six Shooter was pretty overrated though.

dmr, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently so does he! (that Times article last Sun)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Saw it this afternoon. This ends up having more substance than style. I left it feeling more stressed than I did going in, which indicates that it works in a way that's different from, say, Smokin' Aces. Very Catholic.

Eazy, Friday, 8 February 2008 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Why has Nath not posted on this thread yet.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2008 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

this is a dud.

s1ocki, Saturday, 9 February 2008 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

dwarf jokes. lovable hitmen.

s1ocki, Saturday, 9 February 2008 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

fat american tourists chasing a guy jokes.

s1ocki, Saturday, 9 February 2008 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

lynchian?

omar little, Saturday, 9 February 2008 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

2-days-in-the-valley-ian.

s1ocki, Saturday, 9 February 2008 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

2 days in the valley at least had a charlize theron-teri hatcher catfight. in underpants.

the trailer for in bruges looked so bad that i was surprised when i realized it was the mcdonagh movie. still looks like one to catch on late-night cable, at best.

tipsy mothra, Saturday, 9 February 2008 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

2 days in the valley was really the wrong one to pick but i was looking for something generically post-tarantino.

s1ocki, Saturday, 9 February 2008 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

This looks unbelievably bad

admrl, Saturday, 9 February 2008 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ slocki is 'love & a 45' what you're after?

i've liked a few of the plays he's written, on the page anyway. he is a little dubious...

gff, Saturday, 9 February 2008 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm halfway between you guys and the four stars Ebert gave it.

On one hand, I'm so tired of the hitman genre, and on the other hand it seems to be a catalyst for a lot of good writers/actors/directors (Collateral, No Country for Old Men, and to a lesser extent this one).

Eazy, Saturday, 9 February 2008 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Huh. I've seen this trailer multiple times (seemingly before the last three or four movies I've seen), and it looks terrible. But then I know nothing about McDonagh's reputation, and it looks like it's gotten good reviews. But I can't say I'm eager to see it.

jaymc, Saturday, 9 February 2008 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh wait, he's the guy that did The Pillowman? Weird. (Not that I saw it.)

jaymc, Saturday, 9 February 2008 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

ebert needs to chill the fuck out.

s1ocki, Saturday, 9 February 2008 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

fortunately, it seems, I was sick the day I was sposed to review it.

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 9 February 2008 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Apart from the blunt convergences and tie-togethers at the end (the kind of stuff that flies better in a theatrical setting, right?), I liked this. I don't get "generically post-Tarantino" at all, unless we're focusing entirely on style/genre, and not the fact that this has an entirely different kind of content (haha short version = it has content at all, which neither Tarantino nor "generic post-Tarantino" does not, and actual characters, compared to Tarantino/post-Tarantino's collections of quirks with only plot functions)

Certain middle sections, once it's passed on from Farrell being funny to Gleeson being something else -- Gleeson on the phone lying to Fiennes! -- are terrific.

nabisco, Monday, 28 April 2008 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

This film was wonderful. I see the Tarantino comparisons, though I also agree that it is more substance than style (unlike Tarantino). But I think it captured the intense joy of seeing his early stuff first time around (plus the seeming digressions actually came to something). Very good.

Mind you, I'm an unashamed fan of Way of the Gun, though I think this is a much better film than that one.

Gukbe, Thursday, 12 June 2008 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link

never realized you could stay alive so long after being shot so much!

i hated this movie for wasting another troubled, delicate, quiet, perfect performance by gleeson

thought ferrell was way out of his depth here

the tone of it wavers disastrously between "lock, stock" and something much deeper - only an actor like gleeson could pull off the tightrope act without looking foolish

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

friends tell me i'll be feeling this but it looks like some old bullshit to me

and what, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link

gleeson has an enormous head

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

and farrell weirdly reminds me more of george w bush every time i see him

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 14 June 2008 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link

this is truly the worst film i have seen in a long time

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 June 2008 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

it sucks, totally a dressed-up '90s tarantino ripoff. actually though colin farrell was ok tho

s1ocki, Monday, 16 June 2008 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

This movie won't fucking leave the Mpls. Landmark multiplex. It's been there longer than My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

Eric H., Monday, 16 June 2008 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Longer than March of the Penguins.

Eric H., Monday, 16 June 2008 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

really?

is it earning??

s1ocki, Monday, 16 June 2008 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

does minneapolis have a large irish-belgian community?

s1ocki, Monday, 16 June 2008 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

It's still showing at Piper's Alley in Chicago, as well.

I liked it well enough when I saw it and have now almost completely forgotten it.

Eazy, Monday, 16 June 2008 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I stand by my month-old praise, though I do still think someone involved should have objected to all the annoying convergences at the end. The pat tying up of meaningless knots does not a climax make, unless you're Larry David.

nabisco, Monday, 16 June 2008 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I was sure the little guy was Peter Dinklidge, but it was not. There could be a good production of True West with those two.

Eazy, Monday, 16 June 2008 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

St. Paul has a significant Irish population, but I think it's really more a case of crap boutique indie movies that do even halfway good at the BO get held over just about indefinitely in this town.

Eric H., Monday, 16 June 2008 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't get how it's tarantino-esque in "style/genre"? it's not a genre mashup; the camera work isn't gimmicky or "indie" feeling; the chronology isn't all mixed up.. aren't those the things people mean by tarantino's style? on the other hand, it's about hitmen who piss off their boss, have rambling conversations, react with humor to life-threatening situations, take drugs they shouldn't

part of the reason i hated it is that i staked everything on the ending, hoping it would justify the time i'd spent on the rest of it

i thought fiennes was awful

p.s. the "american" accents the fatties had were the most wildly incorrect american accents i've heard this side of radio 4; say what you will about colin ferrell but he could have given them some pointers there

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 June 2008 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

This film is very funny and well-acted. The plot is a little contrived, particularly at the end, but that didn't bother me at all.

chap, Friday, 5 December 2008 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

This wasn't the madcap comedy the trailers led me to believe it would be, but I thought it was terrific and I think anybody slagging it for being a Tarantino ripoff are completely missing the point.

BIG HOOS'S poncho steencation (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 5 December 2008 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i have had this on my netflix queue for a while but I keep pushing it back. this thread has convinced me to delete it altogether. i also hate the fuck out of farrell.

shortwave (rockapads), Friday, 5 December 2008 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the poster for this always makes me think of the Dream Of The 90s song from portlandia. thats what mcdonagh is doing... living that dream

turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 12 January 2013 01:44 (nine years ago) link

waste is the word. I liked Walken though. Especially his pronunciation of "hallucinogens"

Number None, Saturday, 12 January 2013 01:48 (nine years ago) link

i did find this to be majorly disappointing. there a couple solid chuckles, but there's nothing even slightly fresh or surprising about it. whereas In Bruges was a huge surprise (maybe just because i wasnt familiar with mcdonagh back then).

turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:06 (nine years ago) link

it's weird that he wants to jump into "meta" Hollywood shit so soon. Try just making a solid movie first. I've never seen any of the plays

Number None, Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:13 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jit3YhGx5pU

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 March 2017 19:49 (five years ago) link

swore i'd never see his stuff again for some reason but will obviously see this

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Monday, 27 March 2017 00:38 (five years ago) link

It will end horribly and be absolutely worth every minute

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 02:42 (five years ago) link

All in for this

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 March 2017 04:06 (five years ago) link

yup

Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Monday, 27 March 2017 04:25 (five years ago) link

mostly lost faith/interest when he made 7 Psychopaths (which i haven't actually seen) but this looks much better

millwallreptile (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 March 2017 06:07 (five years ago) link

7 psychopaths is terrible but it may have a couple of moments iirc. not gonna watch it again to confirm.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 27 March 2017 06:42 (five years ago) link

this new one is supposed to be more serious than the trailer makes it seem

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 27 March 2017 12:04 (five years ago) link

7 psychos was terrible, thought this sounded ok but the trailer looks p bad imo

johnny crunch, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:23 (five years ago) link

Can't offhand think of a bigger drop in quality between a director's consecutive films than In Bruges>7 Psychopaths.

chap, Monday, 27 March 2017 14:14 (five years ago) link

it's a promise of frances mcdormand cursing out her whole town for an hour or two, what are you talking about

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 14:16 (five years ago) link

keep forgetting this guy has stopped being a playwright, or put it on the backshelf

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 March 2017 14:21 (five years ago) link

I didnt mind 7 psychopaths tbh

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 March 2017 16:00 (five years ago) link

me neither. enjoyable overall, with moments good & bad. agree it's a huge step down from in bruges tho.

Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Monday, 27 March 2017 17:13 (five years ago) link

Def

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 March 2017 17:32 (five years ago) link

That is otm

In Bruges suffers badly from the tie everything together traits that mcdonagh suffers so badly from. The main difference in quality is that there's just no beating Brendan Gleeson for adding heft to a midweight smartass violent movie.

The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 27 March 2017 20:32 (five years ago) link

Agreed. Fiennes raises the intensity bar a couple of notches too. The smashing of the telephone in the study seems strangely anachronistic.

wtev, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 05:42 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

well, one vote for his new one on Slant. Nice cast anyway.

https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 17:16 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

i found this movie troubling in all the ways it intends to be, and extremely well-acted, yet i find myself really annoyed with it. the angle of the police department's track record of brutality and racism, admittedly played up in the marketing but absolutely present in the film, is never seriously dealt with. the screenplay and acting heap tremendous sympathy on woody harrelson (so, what, he's absolved?) and about two-thirds of the way through start developing rockwell in a much more sympathetic direction, and knowing what we know about him this is really, really jarring. i've skimmed some of the rave reviews and i agree with everything they're saying but they do not mention this. a major character is clearly a racist cop who committed these acts of brutality, but it's not dwelled upon, it doesn't seem to come up even after he's committed more serious offenses that by rights should have him in jail, and at the end... well, i won't spoil.

and i'm not saying that the film straightforwardly asks us to like and sympathize with this character, nor that a film about a racist cop has to stop at depicting him as pure evil. because obviously this is a movie where the main protagonist also does some things that go beyond the pale, and we are forced to see her in a complicated moral light. but in 2017 to make a movie about american police, where racially-structured brutality is put in play as a theme, and then to end where we do is very.... weird. imo. it started to feel not like a deliberate provocative choice and more like a tone-deaf outsider filmmaker who Does Not Get It.

but maybe it's just me?

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 03:10 (four years ago) link

all re: three billboards if that wasn't obvious. i loved in bruges.

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 03:10 (four years ago) link

I agree with all of that, Doctor C. I was also a bit put off by the scene in which the new chief comes to town, and he's black, and he immediately calls all the white officers crackers and motherfuckers and lays down the law and fires Dixon on the spot. It just seemed so pat, like a fantasy of police accountability--some good black officers in high places could take care of the bad white ones, and that would be that.

JRN, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 03:23 (four years ago) link

(also reading back over my post above: i mean "more serious offenses" as in "additional serious offenses" not that they are "more serious" than the torture that apparently took place before the film started)

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 04:34 (four years ago) link

I used to think the Coen bros sometimes made bad movies, but really they were just lesser Coen bros movies. This movie and that terrible George Clooney movie that came out showed me what bad Coen bros movies would look like.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 05:05 (four years ago) link

I definitely prefer McDonagh writing about Ireland than the U.S.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 05:50 (four years ago) link

and yeah agreed with JRN about the new chief. also the only black characters are him, the guy who put up the billboard, and the other gift shop employee. they're all accessory characters with none of the home lives or inner complexity that the rest of the cast are allowed. dinklage gets more screen time and more dialogue establishing his personhood than the woman who is arbitrarily and punitively jailed and then shows up to just be happy as can be that she's out and that mcdormand is still doing her thing. did she have any feelings about this situation?

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 06:39 (four years ago) link

i think the chief's backstory is that he is lester freamon from the wire.
the mom from it's always sunny was a bit of on-the-nose casting, too.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 07:26 (four years ago) link

I might ask that, if you're not going to make a separate thread for it, you'd refrain from "and then this thing happened" about a film that won't be released until next year in a lot of territories. I'm prepared to sacrifice my dignity and call you "Lads" if this will get the work done.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 12:09 (four years ago) link

Backing Farrell 💯 on this one...lads

m8, capitalism, m8 (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 12:10 (four years ago) link

I read this thread backwards and thought you was talking about Colin

Centrist Pred (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 13:32 (four years ago) link

Sorry, Andrew. I started out intending to not be spoilery but it got away from me.

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 14:00 (four years ago) link

there’s also been discussion on the woody barrels on thread

sciatica, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 15:49 (four years ago) link

lol

sciatica, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 15:49 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

I saw a production of 'The Lieutenant of Inishmore' a few years ago., it was woeful stuff. "Father Ted meets Tarantino", arghh

― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 12 October 2012 21:56 (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

shite

embarrassing

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 21:38 (two years ago) link

having discussed it with a half-a-bottle-of-red-down mrs mac, we have decided that without great performances, mcdonagh is in fact without merit in any way.

and im not offering but id write ten times better of actual irish dialogue, and god bless our diaspora but fucked if we should tolerate them making cod-irish characters a thing if flann o'brian was mocking yeats himself for doing so a century before this overboosted tart

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:36 (two years ago) link

His only play worth talking about is The Pillowman yeah that’s right

median punt (gyac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:44 (two years ago) link

well now

https://www.atgtickets.com/shows/the-pillowman/duke-of-yorks-theatre/

median punt (gyac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:52 (two years ago) link

and im not offering but id write ten times better of actual irish dialogue

oh do this already for every sake

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:56 (two years ago) link

breaks my heart to see these powers of anecdote and answerback wasted on ilx alone

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:57 (two years ago) link

read kevin barry

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:07 (two years ago) link

Kevin Barry read Shaw

”Well, they are not going to let me like a soldier fall… But I must say they are going to hang me like a gentleman."

median punt (gyac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:14 (two years ago) link

if ilx were up on their barry id poll his short stories, there's stuff in there that broke me and renewed me tbh

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:28 (two years ago) link

I’m not up on my Barry apart from the lad from
Belvedere! What’s he like? Would I like him?

median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 00:13 (two years ago) link

would hope so

he runs a bit towards fascination with the sex he imagines everyone is having and a certain gra for idk rural hippies

but some of the writing is so utterly irish in energy and phrase that i got homesick and sher i never left.

and a few of the tales and characters are pretty unforgettable

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 00:27 (two years ago) link

There's a Barry essay about living in Cork that's just superbly magical and gritty somewhere on the internets. I thought "City of Bohane" was an attempt at a bogger Mad Max that worked maybe a third of the time but fair play for having a go.

Martin McDonagh is a wasteman who hasnt done anything of any worth and I'm including "In Bruges" in there also.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 6 March 2020 00:48 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Well now there's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRu3zLOJN2c

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 August 2022 14:30 (one week ago) link


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