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why is there a bus in brighton with derek jameson written on the front? wtf?

so, yeah, we went to brighton yesterday. i've always thought, camden-by-the-sea, yadda yadda whatever, people move there to 'escape' london, but they all escape to the same damn place taking the worst bits of london with them. all the bad of london concentrated in a small area, with none of the good bits. but is this true? is it really that bad?

you know what? i don't know. i wasn't struck by the badness, more by the mediocrity, then theres the north lanes, cafes and second hand clothes. but thats good, right? no decent bookshops though, thought brighton wa\s supposed to be good for second hand books?

so, i didn't get any books, but i did get a new shirt, but more of that later

gareth, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

>why is there a bus in brighton with derek jameson written on the front? wtf?

there's a fatboy slim one aswell int there? i think it's something to do with a local council initiative to commemorate hometown boys who've come good. that is, presuming derek jameson is a brightoner. if he's not.. then... i don't know w(hy)tf.

nickie, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Gareth, I've only ever heard you be nice about one bookshop, which is somewhere in the mythic (to me) land they call Stoke Newington. Do you think your standards may be unrealistically high?

I visited several bookshops which I when I was last in Brighton, although I only bought one book. I thought the shops seemed pretty decent, though.

Tim, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I was in Brighton yesterday too! I really like it, go there a lot.

Tom, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i may have missed the bookshops, there were a couple that looked ok, but they were closed, which was quaint.

gareth, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Derek "Do they mean us?" Jameson lives in Brighton, yes.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Visiting Brighton days before leaving = Biggest reason I dislike Manchester.

ILE Brighton Day Out Now!

Graham, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Gareth, does Church Street books open on a Sunday then?

Tim, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, I think so.

N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm worried Tim is going to be horribly disappointed by Church St Books. It's not really that astonishing. It's just a nice local bookshop that has well selected stock (maybe a bit conservative, but this means it usually has what you want if you're after something in particular) and is quite cheap compared to many (eg. Ocean Books over the road)

N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, tim probably will be disappointed. it just happens to be around the corner from me, cheap, and usually has a book in i want. thats all

gareth, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

but the man in ocean books is very friendly/lonely and will talk the ear off you if you give him a chance. shops aren't just about the selling, you know.

nickie, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
More Brighton Beach Memoirs pls.

Mary (Mary), Friday, 25 July 2003 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Archel lives there, so obv Brighton rocks!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 July 2003 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Funny you should revive this Mary, there's a big Julie Birchill Brighton memoir in today's Guardian.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 25 July 2003 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Also mentalism about wireless internet access on the beach. Terrible idea.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 July 2003 07:48 (eighteen years ago) link

The whole of the G2 staff is obsessed with Brighton. So is the Observer. Just GO AWAY.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 July 2003 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link

brighton sucks

gareth (gareth), Friday, 25 July 2003 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

As Julie says, living by the sea is the only way to keep sane in this life. Nobody's going to landlock me! Rar.

(There ARE a few good second-hand bookshops in Brighton, though the best one burnt down last year. Savery Books, Brighton Books, TwoWay Books, one on Duke St I can't remember the name of - all treasure troves. None of them open on Sundays but so what? Oxfam Books and British Heart Foundation Books & Music are new and fantastic.)

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link

But I don't understand people who visit a place just to buy more Things, anyway. I seem to not like Things very much these days, which is lucky because I can't afford them.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i live in brighton, and the best book shop by far is the
British Heart Foundation charity book shop on London road.
Why? cos there are a lot of fools who only buy books cos
said books are 'cool' and dump them in the charity shop a
couple of months later unread.

this month i've got
2 john fante books (1.50 each)
bukowskis 1st book published in the uk (penguin modern poets 13 - 1.00)
2 murakami books (1.50 each)
a dan fante book with a fax from kevin sampson inside about the
blurb he's going to contribute to the back cover of the book and
the blurb on the back is faithfully reproduced! (1.00 i havent read
any kevin sampson, whats he like?)
a japanese graphic novel based on 2001 called 2001 nights (2.00)

there is more to brighton than the lanes, you know
(not that i get to much of it myself....)

joni, Friday, 25 July 2003 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Where are the good place to eat and drink and shop for clothes?

Mary (Mary), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Joni it might have been that they thought those books were rubbish!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i told you they were fools!

joni, Friday, 25 July 2003 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The fools are the charity shop for not charging scalpers prices for Bukowski et al. - 'cult' authors = ker-ching!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link

shhh....they might here you, i only live round the corner from them....

joni, Friday, 25 July 2003 08:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I do too. Are we neighbours joni?

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link

woo, wouldnt that be weird.....
we could tie string between two tins and have our own lo-fi ilxor!

joni, Friday, 25 July 2003 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I really liked Brighton. It * was* like San Francisco. Pretty pastel Victorians. Oh dear though: I got taken to a horrible boho caff for lunch. Smoky smoky. I liked the decrepit pier; the working pier was a bit noisy -- I hear it is de rigeur to play REM's "Shiny Happy People" there. I am confused about sunbathing on rocks; I am torn is it zen or madness? My books says that Black Chapatis is the place to eat. Thoughts? Also, if anyone is in Brighton and they see a Miffy Dick Bruno doll and T-shirt could you tell me where? Shoulda got...

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The Black Chapati is favoured by the taxi-taking summer conference crowd. It is expensive, but apparently good. I wouldn't know. TERRIBLE location though, on the way to and from nowhere, next to a dodgy pizza place, some horrible flats and a launderette in a nasty fake urban leafy square thing. I just moved from there.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not a TERRIBLE location though, it is near The Duke of Yorks and also I live near there! but I suppose the immediate vicinity is a pretty bad example of prefab and traffic. I've wanted to try The Black Chapati for the last 2 years since I moved down here, it was third on my list after Paston Place and Terre a Terre, but my pay doesn't allow me to have really fancy dining more than once a year, I'm planning to visit sometime this autumn. Whereabouts have you moved to? Out of Brighton?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, it's super fancy? For next time, where would you recommend eating fish & chips?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Fish and Chips? Nowhere compares to Bardsley's on Baker Street (quite near The Black Chapati actually) which always seems to get into every 'top 50 places to eat fish in the UK' and they aren't coy about displaying this on every wall! But be warned they shut at 8.30, and they only open Tuesday (or maybe Wednesday) to Saturday. However, you can eat in if you want and BYO, and do a very wide range of fish (look on the blackboard for the specials). If in Hove and seeking a more standard chippie, seek out 'Seahorses' at the far-end of Blatchington Road - the second best in Brightonandhove!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i might head down to one of the ONe Live events soon (Sean Paul w Dizzee at the Dome is particularly tempting) so a Brighton FAP is on the cards i hope...there ought to have been a proper one in the Summer but i forgot to suggest it (plus London ILE appears so very divided on whether Brighton is good or not)

and here's another reason why gareth (and other hataz) is WRONG: http://www.base58.com/misc/westpier.jpg

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

That was G's first port of call.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

what happened to the lo-fi ilxor?

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

before it collapsed it was better because there would always be enormous flocks of gulls swarming around the decrepid pier and it was a good excuse to stage Hitchcock-themed parties on the beach (okay that never happened but Brighton is still cool)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Madeline and I already have our Dizzee and Sean Paul tickets, and I took the night off work especialy for it, so it had better be as good as I hope it will be.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Argh, I thought there was a thread about Brighton and hotels there and stuff but I can't find it, so I'll just revive this one instead.

I'm going to Brighton tomorrow for a gig. Since it turns out we're not recording (and I had such a good time in Kent last weekend) I think I might stay for the weekend.

Since it's off season, I assume I might not need a reservation for a hotel? Also, erm... FAP anyone?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I am totally clueless about hotels, but the Lion and Lobster does b&b and is also the second-best pub in Brighton.
http://www.lionandlobster.com/

I will definitely FAP with you there! Or somewhere else.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I still have your phone number, so I will text you when I get up on Saturday. Damn, why can't I book online with that place? Bah. I hate ringing strangers.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh me too. I would conduct all transactions elctronically if I could. They are good though, so it might be worth it...

See you Sat maybe!

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll be up for a drink if I'm allowed to come along (by the "missus", and you lot). Not too fond of the Lobster, but I'll put up with it.

Lion & Lobster is definitely cheap for rooms though.

Has anyone spoken with Nick B, Dave B or any other Brighton ilxors?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link

B-b-but Dark Star! (Yes I know the Lobster is no Evening Star but it's closer to my house so...)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I will allow you to pick the pub, as I know nothing of Brighton.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I will be at an AFC Wimblydon game...

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm going to be going to the Hanbury Ballroom on Friday night:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=532668&Y=103694&A=Y&Z=1

How close is this to the B&B? I need to look it up. (Also, come and see Kevin Bletchdum if you fancy.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah. Quite far from the Lobster (which is on Bedford Place). There *are* loads of B&Bs just off the seafront nearer the Hanbury end of town though - New Steine seems particularly full of them.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

They do Dark Star now? That's good... Hav e they got it since The Regency Tavern became 'The Evil Sheperd Neame Tavern' and stopped selling independent brews?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Could be. I don't remember exatly when it was... the Regency was always a bit of a weird pub anyway.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i might have attended too but i'm actually going to see Sunn O))) my son O. (in his school musical)

ganbatte!

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:55 (four years ago) link

slum of l3gs news update please!

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 28 July 2017 08:47 (four years ago) link

Sorry that sounded a bit demanding. Is there a new record in the pipes?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 28 July 2017 08:49 (four years ago) link

Yeah - except, er, I'm attempting to mix it myself. Hopefully will be done by the start of autumn. We're not doing very many shows at the moment for a variety of reasons, some of which are supreme bummers.

emil.y, Friday, 28 July 2017 12:03 (four years ago) link

Very much looking forward to the one with the Wolfies

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 28 July 2017 12:55 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

helo fine ppl of brighton, i'll be frequenting yr lovely town over the next few months, as after a couple of years of being a failing academic i've finally managed to get a little lecturing work. for the most part i'm unfortunately basically going to be getting in for long working days and heading home, but do let me know if anything good is happening on mondays or thursdays.

Ooh! Sussex or Brighton uni? We should meet up for a nice pint.

emil.y, Monday, 2 October 2017 21:02 (four years ago) link

holy shit, welcome merds! Am definitely up for a fap one thursday evening

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 2 October 2017 21:20 (four years ago) link

Hi there! I work on the Falmer campus at the moment, although in a non-academic building.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 09:38 (four years ago) link

Why Mondays and Thursdays by the way?

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 09:38 (four years ago) link

o i'm part-time so those are the only days i have to be in just now, though once i have office space maybe i'll occasionally fancy making the trip down when not strictly necessary. thursday fap sounds an excellent idea - once i'm clearer on schedules and departmental obligations we can start trying to plot that.

(it's at brighton uni, at the campus right in the middle of town - not a place i knew that much about before tbh but it all seems v nice.)

two weeks pass...

How's the job going? I don't work so would be happy to meet up for a daytime coffee if you don't have time for an evening beer at the moment.

emil.y, Sunday, 22 October 2017 16:20 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I hope emil.y doesn’t mind if I mention she will be playing at this month's Headphase at The Hope and Ruin. The event goes from 3-9pm and I’ll be DJing too alongside the other resident, Acquaintance from the Anti-Ghost Moon Ray label.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 07:30 (four years ago) link

shocker - i might even be able to make some of that. i will try!

damian green is people (NickB), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 17:17 (four years ago) link

sorry i missed your post emil.y - it turns out that being a lecturer makes you quite busy. rude imo. but tomorrow strike action is blessing me with an afternoon off, is anyone around for a coffee / early pint?

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 18:39 (four years ago) link

Damn, I'm actually busy today for a change. And I'm leaving forever in a couple of weeks!

emil.y, Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:07 (four years ago) link

ah instead i enjoyed a little wander which i hadn't really had time for before. that bookshop on uhhh, the steep street that goes under the train station, it's pretty chaotic eh?

i think i can make some time this tuesday late afternoon / evening! anyone around + free?

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:03 (four years ago) link

I'm up for Tuesday, jaja.

emil.y, Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:49 (four years ago) link

Holy shit you wankers

damian green is people (NickB), Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:55 (four years ago) link

I'm visiting Brighton on Thursday to see Algiers at the Haunt and going back Saturday morning if anyone's about

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 27 November 2017 00:58 (four years ago) link

Hey maybe!

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 27 November 2017 06:10 (four years ago) link

Also apols for previous drunken shout out, that was just directed to the universe in general. fucking universe.

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 27 November 2017 06:13 (four years ago) link

Haha, glad you had a good time Nick!

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 27 November 2017 09:59 (four years ago) link

yeah thank you, i did!

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:18 (four years ago) link

When are you leaving Brighton, emil.y? I'm going to see Exit Order at the Cowley Club on Saturday, could do an early FAP that day if anyone is about.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:12 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

Hello Brighton. Sorry it's a long since I rapped at ya. I'm going to Guitar Wolf at Prince Albert next week and Cuntroaches April 11th. Might be going to Blue Orchids, Liminanas, the Ex, Len Price 3 or Dr & the Crippens so hit me up if he going to any of those

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 17 March 2018 23:58 (three years ago) link

Hiya M! Will probably go and see the Ex if it doesn't sell out but Dr & the Crippens might also be fun

Never ever seen the Blue Orchids so maybe i should fix that. Who else is on the bill?

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:09 (three years ago) link

Band of holy joy are supporting blue orchids. I saw blue orchids at a C86 anniversary gig in London a few years ago and they were really good. They mightve been the best band that night except I can't remember if that was the same year I saw the June Brides. If it was that year they were the second best band

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:13 (three years ago) link

Ah yeah, BOHJ - have tried so many times to get into Johny and his gang. Have always liked the idea of them, their records are really shit but in an interesting way. Perhaps they'll click live? Anyhow, could be a definite maybe

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:19 (three years ago) link

Yeah I'm not a huge fan.i have a bohj 12" which is ok. Tbh I wish it was the June Brides again they were awesome

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:22 (three years ago) link

Another band I've never seen, have always like In The Rain since I was a kid though

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:29 (three years ago) link

I think that night had yeau

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:31 (three years ago) link

Argh this bus is bouncey
There were 2 gigs over 2 years and I can't remember which was which but
Yeah yeah Noh
A witness
Brilliant corners
Wedding present
Popguns
Blue orchids
June Brides
Primitives

There were more but can't remember.

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:33 (three years ago) link

I saw Stewart Lee at one of them. He is actually responsible for me getting into Talulah Gosh cos he wrote an article for the Guardian about them in the mid 90s

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:38 (three years ago) link

Popguns were a Brighton band right? Think I met their ex-manager at work once iirc

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:40 (three years ago) link

Think so. They weren't very good wherever they were from. I'm in a horrible Eastbourne pub at the moment cos the trains are all fucked up tonight

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:48 (three years ago) link

There's a Sarah records gig at the Green Door which I would've been all over if I hadn't already bought tickets to the London night the next day - even as we speak, boyracer, secret shine and action Painting.

I've seen 2 fake even as we speak gigs over the last 15 years which were basically Mary Wyer plus whoever she could rope into doing it but apparently these ones are the real deal. Also I think action painting may be responsible for my favourite ever Sarah single

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:58 (three years ago) link

I'm in a horrible Eastbourne pub at the moment cos the trains are all fucked up tonight

oh shit, stay warm and good luck my man! were it not 1 o'clock in the morning, i'd have sent you round to my sister-in-law's

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Sunday, 18 March 2018 01:07 (three years ago) link

Eh it's ok, although they kicked everyone out at 1 nobody seems to have noticed I've got on a train which is allegedly going to Hastings. If it's not actually going to Hastings I may be in a spot of bother

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 18 March 2018 01:12 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

What’s the ILX Brighton contigent these days. Me, Nick B and Jabber Hands I know of, anyone else lurking?

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 28 August 2021 10:33 (three months ago) link

me, in a month

bovarism, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 12:22 (three months ago) link

Me also, in a month.

Alba, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 12:28 (three months ago) link

I'm there now and then visiting family. Should be at the Scritti gig at the Concorde2 on October 1st.

nashwan, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 12:38 (three months ago) link

Cool, what are you all coming here to do? Timing suggests academic year?

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 4 September 2021 08:27 (two months ago) link

Our Alice, from the old days of "Amber and Alice", is resident

Mark G, Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:27 (two months ago) link

Scritti gig!

That'd be nice...

Mark G, Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:27 (two months ago) link

I stupidly assumed it wouldn't sell out and then it did almost straight away! If anyone has a spare ticket get in touch.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 6 September 2021 20:09 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Of course now I can't go due to, er, moving house next week...

Chewshabadoo! My ticket is yours if you want it.

nashwan, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:47 (two months ago) link

cannot believe people still lose their penises over scritti, green could not sing, it's the only way he was able to reference derrida whilst knowing about the esoteric right wing core within deconstruction. emperors new clothes and that. Britney is and was by all accounts far more philosophically cogent as a pop universe, in spite of her politics being all over the place and pro-Bush.

RobbiePires, Friday, 1 October 2021 22:03 (two months ago) link

Green sounds as sweet as anything to my ears. Anyway, thanks for your message nashwan, a very kind offer but I was out of town tonight.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 2 October 2021 01:04 (two months ago) link


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