RIP TORN POLL

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
"The Larry Sanders Show" .... Arthur 19
The Beastmaster (1982) .... Maax 3
Freddy Got Fingered (2001) .... Jim Brody 3
Airplane II: The Sequel (1982) .... Bud Kruger/President Reagan 1
RoboCop 3 (1993) .... The CEO 1
The Man Who Fell to Earth (1976) .... Nathan Bryce 1
Payday (1973) .... Maury Dann 1
"30 Rock" .... Don Geiss 1
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story (2004) .... Patches O'Houlihan 1
Marie Antoinette (2006) .... Louis XV 1
The Cincinnati Kid (1965) .... Slade 0
Pork Chop Hill (1959) .... Lt. Walter Russel 0
Rape and Marriage: The Rideout Case (1980) (TV) .... Charles Burt 0
Sophia Loren: Her Own Story (1980) (TV) .... Carlo Ponti 0
Scooby-Doo Goes Hollywood (1979) (TV) .... C.J. 0
The Seduction of Joe Tynan (1979) .... Senator Kittner 0
"Blind Ambition" (1979) (mini) TV Series .... Richard M. Nixon 0
King of Kings (1961) .... Judas 0
The President's Plane Is Missing (1973) (TV) .... George Oldenburg 0
"The Untouchables" .... Harry Straus 0
"Rawhide" .... Jacob Yellow-Sun 0
"Bonanza" .... Will Hewett 0
Cotter (1973) .... Roy 0
"The Blue and the Gray" (1982) (mini) TV Series .... Gen. Ulysses S. Grant 0
"Law & Order: Criminal Intent" .... Jules Copeland 0
Astérix et les Vikings (2006) .... Doublehelix 0
Men in Black II (2002) .... Zed 0
"Soul Food" .... Peter Redmond 0
Wonder Boys (2000) .... Quentin 'Q' Morewood 0
The Insider (1999) .... John Scanlon 0
Senseless (1998) .... Randall Tyson 0
Men in Black (1997) .... Chief Zed 0
Hercules (1997) .... Zeus 0
Down Periscope (1996) .... Vice Adm. Dean Winslow 0
Candian Bacon (1995) .... General Dick Panzer 0
"The John Larroquette Show" .... Art Professor 0
J. Edgar Hoover (1987) (TV) .... Lyndon Baines Johnson 0
"The Atlanta Child Murders" (1985) (mini) TV Series .... Lewis Slaton 0
Scarab (1984) .... Khepera 0
A Face in the Crowd (1957) (uncredited) .... Barry Mills0


and what, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Men in Black II (2002) .... Zed

^^^this movie sucks so bad

Dom Passantino, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

The Beastmaster (1982) .... Maax

How did I forget this one.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

Men in Black II (2002) .... Zed

tommy lee jones is excellent in this

and what, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

his closing scene with rosario dawson is seriously great acting

and what, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51M%2BTwKh59L._AA240_.jpg

Coming January 8th.

C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

not hating, but...i'm not sure i've ever seen this guy in anything where i was really impressed or thought he was super funny. but then I haven't seen a whole of Larry Sanders, that's kind of the big one for him, right?

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

ban alex in baltimore

and what, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

i actually really liked men in black 2... even david cross is funny in it

and what, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

NOT HATING, I'm just saying, convince me, it's possible i'm being blinded by Dodgeball/Freddy Got Fingered type bullshit.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

Zed: You miss her, it happens to all of us. There was this young, hot thing I knew once. When our bodies were intertwined in the positions of the Kama Sutra...
Agent J: Zed! Come on, man! Damn!

and what, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

men in black (I) is so so good

gff, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

artie is about my favourite tv character ever.

stevie, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

Torn Poll, you left us too soon. RIP.

Casuistry, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

wow
he's played LBJ, nixon and reagan.
has anyone else played 3 presidents?

mizzell, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

he's funny in dodgeball though.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Always have wanted to see Blind ambition.

The Mailer film where he bites Norman in a real brawl ain't here

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

The Man WHo Fell To Earth features Rip's wang.

Lolpez, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

His most acclaimed film role in maybe 30 years is missing:

Forty Shades of Blue (2005)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Defending Your Life?

Scott CE, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

extreme prejudice

omar little, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

im in love with Artie

sunny successor, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

the fact that this didn't make the poll saddens me. Not your fault, and what, it has unfortunately and unfairly been forgotten by pretty much everybody. Easily Willie's best (that I've seen) and I think even Kael liked it!

Anyway, Torn is awesome as a sleazy concert promoter.

will, Friday, 2 November 2007 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Apart-Rip-Torn/dp/6305769443

write in vote for 'Coming Apart'

Milton Parker, Friday, 2 November 2007 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjMEWlifpE

Mailer v. Torn

milo z, Friday, 2 November 2007 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

NOT HATING, I'm just saying, convince me, it's possible i'm being blinded by Dodgeball/Freddy Got Fingered type bullshit.

Wtf, Dodgeball is a great movie, and he's really funny in it.

Tuomas, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

dodgeball is terrible, but he comes closest to being funny in it.

horseshoe, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, compared to everyone else in Dodgeball.

horseshoe, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:46 (eleven years ago) link

Kael and Torn is one of the great crit romances of the last 30 years.

He's been fine in lots of movies, but The Beastmaster is tops if only for the way he works those pigtails with skull and bones hairbraids.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 November 2007 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

gotta go for artie

s1ocki, Monday, 5 November 2007 03:57 (eleven years ago) link

also dodgeball is funny

s1ocki, Monday, 5 November 2007 03:57 (eleven years ago) link

I'm voting for The Man Who Fell To Earth because of this speech he gives that starts: "I'm a bit of a cliche you see, the disillusioned scientist. That goes with the alcoholic actor, the spaced-out spaceman, blah, blah, blah."

And yeah, like Morbius I wondered where Forty Shades was at.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 5 November 2007 06:29 (eleven years ago) link

R.I.P Torn Poll

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 5 November 2007 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

i always get this guy confused with the bloke from Trading Places, but i've had this discussion on ile before..

Ste, Monday, 5 November 2007 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

eddie murphy?

darraghmac, Monday, 5 November 2007 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

"look at the S car go!"

Ste, Monday, 5 November 2007 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

This list is missing Heartland. He's the lead. It's about homesteaders in Wyoming in the late 1800s, and it's great, and he's great in it.

Eazy, Monday, 5 November 2007 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

when he was married to Geraldine Page, their doorbell said PAGE/TORN.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

Freddy Got Fingered robbed.

Eric H., Tuesday, 6 November 2007 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

I read Geraldine Page as Geraldine Chaplin and was wondering what Carlos Saura thought about all this.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

"This list is missing Heartland. He's the lead."

i love that movie. so good. hardly anyone has ever seen it though. i love payday too. i will trade in my vhs copy for a dvd copy. now that i know there is one.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

Heard lots of good things about Payday.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 8 November 2007 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

Also missing from poll: Rip Torn vs. Dennis Hopper.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 8 November 2007 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

R.I.P. TORN CURTAIN

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 8 November 2007 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

I believe the fight I am alluding to occurred at an earlier incarnation of Serendipity.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 8 November 2007 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjMEWlifpE

Mailer v. Torn

-- milo z, Friday, 2 November 2007 20:41 (6 days ago) Link

He really goes for him with that hammer, but it's surely Mailer who is doing the biting. It seems even better with the French substitles.

"Lache la marteau"

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 8 November 2007 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

"Tu va arrêter ce taré"

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 8 November 2007 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, that should be "Tu va l'arrêter ce taré" - which makes more sense.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 8 November 2007 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

rip torn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1XWJN3nJo

markers, Friday, 8 July 2011 04:42 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

I'm not gonna try to describe the Godard-abandoned Pennebaker semidocumentary 1 PM, but if you ever wanted to see Rip and Jean-Luc putting on an interactive-theatre piece in a Bushwick classroom circa 1970, here you go.

https://vimeo.com/86071508

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 15:59 (one year ago) link

Why yes I think I do, thank you.

Agharta Christie (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:03 (one year ago) link

apparently it was '68.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:07 (one year ago) link

yeow

amiri baraka & eldridge cleaver sections on vimeo/yt. must watch whole thing.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:47 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

RIP

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 12:50 (one week ago) link

i am v sad about this one

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 12:53 (one week ago) link

One of the most gloriously unwieldy acting careers ever

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 July 2019 12:54 (one week ago) link

I seem to vacillate every time I rewatch Larry Sanders on whether Artie or Hank is the greatest character of all time. I think I came down Artie this last time round.

I just loved seeing Torn in anything and everything. He had an unmatched energy, for sure.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:01 (one week ago) link

It's not a problem because they're all the greatest in the greatest show of all time.

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:32 (one week ago) link

All of what you say is 100% otm.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:33 (one week ago) link

yeah it's impossible to imagine the show without those three characters played by those three specific actors

it's a GESTALT maaaaan

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:34 (one week ago) link

on the New York stage (I saw him in The Young Man from Atlanta in '97):

http://iobdb.com/CreditableEntity/5720

https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/rip-torn-16349

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:06 (one week ago) link

Coming Apart is really something. I saw him introduce it once & he seemed especially proud of it.

Josefa, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:20 (one week ago) link

looks like a decent iteration of it is here:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x34oj7g

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:29 (one week ago) link

I've been re-watching some Larry Sanders today, from a horribly compressed torrent (90 eps crushed to 2.6 gig!) but the quality of his tour de force as Artie is undiminished.

calzino, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:32 (one week ago) link

who in our darkest hour has not wanted to betray Jesus, or go after Mailer with a hammer?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:34 (one week ago) link

dang. R.I.P. you treasure.

am compelled to report the last time i got to enjoy him was in a recent viewing of '85's summer rental, which was a fam favorite for me from when we as a fam first started renting videos around, well, '85.

scully, left, and jack chester, right, try to recall how many beers they drank.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090098/mediaviewer/rm4290523904

andrew m., Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:50 (one week ago) link

well shit nm. you've seen the man anyway.

andrew m., Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:52 (one week ago) link

in my memory that time he broke into the bank because he thought it was his house, he was also naked and carrying a samurai sword

the internet has gone mandela effect at me abt the last two facts

mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:53 (one week ago) link

TBF, I'm sure he was naked and wielding a samurai sword most of the rest of the time.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:55 (one week ago) link

this one hurts, always loved seeing him pop up.

unfortunately, his turn as the slimy record exec that insists on Lou Reed producing Paul Simon's comeback album in "One Trick Pony" is not on youtube

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:57 (one week ago) link

two funny anecdotes from conchata ferrell on working with rip in heartland, taken from a 2014 av club interview.

they wanted to deliver a calf live for the camera and in character, so they were on "calf alert" all night and it came time:

So we went out to birth this calf, and Rip and I had gone through it. You have to reach up inside the cow and hook a rope to the front legs of the calf as it’s being born. So we’re out there, we’re going through this and doing it, and at one point there was a conversation going on between Fred and Dick Pearce about where they should shoot this from, and Rip looked up and went, “Guys? We can’t put it back. We’ve got to get this done!"

AVC: Given your comments about the conditions, how tolerant was Rip Torn of the mountains and the prairies?

CF: Well, Rip was actually very good at it. I will tell you, though… [Hesitates.] I shouldn’t tell this story, but it was my first or second day, and we were rehearsing, and when we were leaving rehearsal, Rip had a car, and he said, “Do you want me to show you the town?” I said, “Sure!” So, you know, he’s driving around, he’s showing me this and showing me that, and I said, “My God, how long have you been here?” And he said, “Oh, I just got here two days ago.” And I went, “How in the world are you so familiar with everything?” He goes, “I make it a point to know every way out of town in any town I’m in.”

andrew m., Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:19 (one week ago) link

lmao, what a hero

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:22 (one week ago) link

I probably said this somewhere else on a Larry Sanders thread or something but Artie is such a perfect character, he's a weirdly ideal friend - rabidly loyal, reliable, willing to do absolutely anything, gruff or good-natured according to the needs of the situation. I would think everyone would like to have someone like that in their corner.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:28 (one week ago) link

I have a soft spot for his small turn in Wonder Boys as the politely smug best-selling novelist.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:57 (one week ago) link

I met Rip Torn at Terry Southern's wake in George Plimpton's apartment. He was drinking Scotch on the rocks and very convivial. We chatted for a bit, then I did something I never do: ask for an autograph. Not for me, but for my father. pic.twitter.com/3mNLnsfvmp

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:06 (one week ago) link

Dad was a big Larry Sanders fan (as am I), and loved Rip's Artie. Rip smiled and said in his booming voice, "Let's write to dear old Dad!" He wrote a very sweet letter on Plimpton's stationary, signed it, handed it to me, then lifted his glass and toasted my Dad.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:07 (one week ago) link

right now I want to see the ep of Larry Sanders where he gets drunk after hours in the studio with the eastern european janitor

the hissing of summer jawns (stevie), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:38 (one week ago) link

'Artie After Hours'! No idea why I had that episode title right there at the forefront my brain but there you go. It's great.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:40 (one week ago) link

i watched the larry sanders show for the first time ever in late 2017/early 2018 during a marriage breakup and artie brought me a lot of succor.

also he sounded like a real fucken piece of work irl.

rip rip

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 20:08 (one week ago) link

Sissy Spacek's cousin!

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 20:21 (one week ago) link

Terry Southern and Rip Torn in NYC, '73. pic.twitter.com/OoG6va8qCl

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:25 (one week ago) link

He seems like someone you'd happily and regularly invite to stay with you for several weeks at a time even though you know half of your furniture will be destroyed by the time he leaves/gets hauled off to the pokey.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:29 (one week ago) link

On September 8, 1963, [Geraldine Page] married actor Rip Torn, who was six years her junior, in Pinal, Arizona. They had three children: a daughter, actress Angelica Page, and twin sons, Anthony "Tony" and Jonathan "Jon" Torn.

Beginning in the early 1980s, Page and Torn lived separately after he started dating actress Amy Wright; Torn had first met Wright in 1976 and began an affair shortly after. Page was aware of Torn and Wright's relationship, and appeared onstage opposite Wright in the 1977 Off-Broadway production of The Stronger, under Torn's direction. In 1983, Torn fathered a child with Wright. Upon the birth of the child, Page was questioned about her marriage by columnist Cindy Adams, to which she responded: "Of course Rip and I are still married. We've been married for years. We're staying married. What's the big fuss?" In spite of their separation, Page and Torn remained married until her death; her daughter described their relationship as still "close" up until Page died in 1987.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:56 (one week ago) link

that's how you do it

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:01 (one week ago) link

Doesn't seem to have been posted (be forewarned about the language):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78IRyUrA2Ug

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:12 (one week ago) link

never saw the "Blind Ambition" miniseries, but imagine Rip letting loose with a non-network Nixon

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:48 (one week ago) link

I'd forgotten all about that. Not available on Amazon, but all five hours are on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M91dQVw3bLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YutsrmLb5xU

Image looks acceptable. I can move that over to the TV, so I'll definitely watch that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:53 (one week ago) link

The first embed doesn't work--you have to watch it on YouTube (which does work).

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:54 (one week ago) link

I think Tambor is breaking in that heckling scene

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:10 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF94LvnRlKA#

that lazy bastard

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:12 (one week ago) link

Never realized that Artie was never given a surname--he's just Artie or Arthur on IMDB and Wikipedia.

clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2019 12:12 (one week ago) link

He played a character named Artie once before, too, in a somewhat less reputable project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMaGnKmaRA

You: We stan Rip Torn, the hero who hit Norman Mailer in the head with a hammer.
Me, an cinephile: I think you mean the hero who hit Justin Long with a wrench pic.twitter.com/hyNnxB3u8W

— J.D. Connor (@jdconnor) July 10, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 July 2019 21:20 (one week ago) link

Torn’s absolute commitment to the role is not matched by Mailer’s, and the two-hander becomes a macho stand-off, ended by Torn when – to calm one of Mailer’s children who’s crying in fright – he says, “It was just a scene in your daddy’s Hollywood whorehouse movie.”

from the S+S obit.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:04 (five days ago) link

hahahahahahaha

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:00 (four days ago) link

Watched Artie After Hours again at the weekend, and a bunch of other eps of Larry Sanders. That show was godhead.

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:00 (four days ago) link

Lol @ Hopper being sued by Torn for keeping up that stupid story.

Poll doesn't include several items. Definitely a few things to check out, not least to see how he constructed the Artie character.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 11:31 (four days ago) link


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