100 Stupid Movies About Ridiculously Improbable Serial Killers

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100. Se7en

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

99. Silence of the Lambs

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

98. Saw

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

what am I the only person that finds this thriller subgenre endlessly irritating?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Se7en and Silence of the Lambs, but I know many who agree with your irritation.

Oilyrags, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

97. Strangeland

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

All serial killers are ridiculously improbable, including the real ones.

Jon Lewis, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

does this include straight-up slasher movies?

kenan, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

saw rulez

jhøshea, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

96. Copycat

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Shakey started with the only modern one I like a lot.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

seven is pretty awesome w/the way it finesses the end

jhøshea, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

best one i ever saw was a seven rip-off with christopher lambert about a guy who's assembling a real life crucifix from body parts of hobos

and what, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

All serial killers are ridiculously improbable, including the real ones

I don't know what this means... I'm referring to movies wherein serial killers are presented as superhumanly intelligent and attentive to details, while also being violently psychopathic and remarkably skillful at psychological manipulation. They are also usually very "cool" and calm and collected.

does this include straight-up slasher movies?

taking the above into account, no. It also rules out most serial killer movies about actual real-life serial killers, who usually are more pathetic and dysfunctional than superhuman.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

best one i ever saw was a seven rip-off with christopher lambert about a guy who's assembling a real life crucifix from body parts of hobos

hahaha okay this sounds really funny

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

it was REALLY funny and REALLY gross!!

and what, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

What was the one with Lou Diamond Philips coming back from the dead? That was pretty terrible. I guess we're not talking about supernatural horror though.

Oilyrags, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry Morbz - this was inspired by watching se7en last night (I'd never seen it in its entirety before and felt that after Zodiac I should give early Fincher another go but ... ugh, Kevin Spacey)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.filmscoop.net/locandine/maniaccop3.jpg
me & my friend couldnt even get through an hour of this

and what, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

96. From Hell

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

95. The Bone Collector

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

94. Kiss the Girls

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

93. Identity

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

92. Serial Mom

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

91. Kalifornia

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I was debating putting From Hell on here given the source material but the movie really does fit the bill

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't forget sequels or prequels:

90. Saw II
89. Saw III
88. Hannibal
87. Red Dragon
86. Manhunter

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

OHMIGOD HOW COULD I FORGET:

85. The Cell

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

That really should be #1. What an awful film that was.

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know what this means... I'm referring to movies wherein serial killers are presented as superhumanly intelligent and attentive to details, while also being violently psychopathic and remarkably skillful at psychological manipulation. They are also usually very "cool" and calm and collected.

UH THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW THEY BECOME "SERIAL KILLERS" INSTEAD OF "DUMBASS WHO GOT CAUGHT KILLING A DUDE."

John Justen, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Uh no. It's mostly because the police aren't very good at catching perpetrators of motive-less crimes.

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man the Cell

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

84. Exorcist III
83. The Watcher
82. Eye See You

da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Cell" was not in any way, shape or form awesome, yet I still really, really enjoyed it.

HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

81. The January Man

da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

80. The Hitcher

Brent, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

79. May

milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

78. Dirty Harry
77. House Of 1000 Corpses

da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

God, I love stupid movies about ridiculously improbable serial killers.

da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Serial Mom is stupidly good obv btw, but it's still stupid and improbable. It's also easily the best movie listed so far.

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

76. Sin City

milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

75. Zodiac

milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

74. Batman

da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

73. Masscre At Central High

HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

72. Scoop
71. Match Point

milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

70. Natural Born Killers

milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

75. Zodiac

I think this is disqualifiable for a number of reasons (as is American Psycho - surprised no one's dropped that one yet)

also wtf Match Point is not about a serial killer?!

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

69. So I Married An Axe Murderer

HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

69. The Frighteners

Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

P.S. I'm not wearing pants.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link

U R IMPROBABLE

John Justen, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 07:10 (fifteen years ago) link

the illusionist suked but the prestige was bobm

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link

While we're on the subject, does anyone remember an Australian(?) indie flick from the nineties, which mostly consisted of a female psychiatrist interviewing a serial killer in jail? I'm not sure if it was that improbable, but I can't remember the name of the movie.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I is a not wearing pants actually happened. LOGIK 101

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

-22. Zodiac
-23. Zodiac

Deric W. Haircare, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait...The Illusionist? The Prestige? I didn't see those movies, but weren't they about magicians? Do all magicians kill people?

OH GOD...DOES DAVID COPPERFIELD KILL PEOPLE?!?

Deric W. Haircare, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

No they're improbable, which means NO MAGICIAN HAS EVER KILLED ANYONE EVER.

John Justen, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

-24. The Number 23

HI DERE, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

No Country For Old Men haw

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 February 2008 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

HOUSE OF WAX

Jarlrmai, Friday, 8 February 2008 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't anyone be dismissing

http://www.horror-movies.ca/albums/userpics/Feed1.jpg

Eric H., Friday, 8 February 2008 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/untraceable/

Martin Van Burne, Friday, 8 February 2008 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

no mention of the "scream" or any of the slasher film sub-genre yet

murderdogger, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

slasher subgenre is discussed upthread as being something of a different animal

Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link

All serial killers are ridiculously improbable, including the real ones

I don't know what this means... I'm referring to movies wherein serial killers are presented as superhumanly intelligent and attentive to details, while also being violently psychopathic and remarkably skillful at psychological manipulation. They are also usually very "cool" and calm and collected.

does this include straight-up slasher movies?

taking the above into account, no. It also rules out most serial killer movies about actual real-life serial killers, who usually are more pathetic and dysfunctional than superhuman.

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, September 7, 2007 8:51 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Link

Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

93. Identity

ya and it sucked too!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 9 February 2008 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

-25. the devils rejects
-26. whats eating gilbert grape
-27. zodiac

sadie8707, Saturday, 9 February 2008 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

-28. the first power

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

-29. shocker

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

(how the fuck did this get this far w/o mention of)

-30. the stepfather (& sequels)

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

lol the first power

I kind of love that movie.

ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

I spent all of October talking about how I wanted to watch -25. the devils rejects but then I forgot about it and still haven't seen it.

ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

xp - jeff kober: ridiculously improbable tho his character may have been, u gotta admit that dude looks like a serial killing mf

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/48/42/27/4842277_gal.jpg

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

E, your reaction to TDR should correspond how well you enjoy 70s-era exploitation horror & the strength of your tolerance for (often comically ott, but still potentially upsetting) sadism & gore. you have been warned!

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty OK with all of those things tbh which is why I really want to see it.

ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Plus it's supposed to be much better than his first, right?

ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

once again you prove to be a woman after my own heart!

*sigh*

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

house of 1000 corpses? supposed to be pretty dud, so I've actually never seen it.

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

so yeah, TDR is just fine as a standalone narrative (if, by narrative, u mean cavalcade of violence & grotesquery)

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

-30. the stepfather (& sequels)

Loosely based on a real guy, although he only killed the one family.

It strikes me that, among real-life dudes, the BTK and Green River killers were almost as ludicrous as any of these fictional guys. They got away with that shit for a loooooong time. Also the Zodiac, obvs.

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

Have there been movies about the Green River Killer? I'm sort of obsessed with that story.

so yeah, TDR is just fine as a standalone narrative (if, by narrative, u mean cavalcade of violence & grotesquery)

― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, December 21, 2010 3:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, I need to see it. Also want to see it for the final "Freebird" scene which I hear is pretty epic.

ENBB, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

although he only killed the one family. - thus not engaging in the ridiculously improbable repeat activity of marrying, mudering, remarrying, murdering etc.

pretty sure this was borrowed (stolen) pretty blatantly from Night of the Hunter, now that I think about it.

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

he BTK and Green River killers were almost as ludicrous as any of these fictional guys.

yeah, even the most shameless & exploitative of directors wouldn't go near the sort of irl behavior exemplified by someone like Albert Fish, for example (at least I hope not..) - unless it were done as something like a "true crime" police procedural, like Citizen X (about an equally reprehensible soviet-era russian sk).

Personally, I can indulge in the ott fictional stuff all day, but anything having to do with the irl guys just leaves me feeling terrible about humanity, empty inside, nauseous etc. Similarly, I'll gladly take in something absurdly bloody & pus-filled like Martyrs, but try to get me to watch an irl surgery or something & I'll probably faint.

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

The guy in Night of the Hunter only kills one family too. Technically he only kills Shelly Winters (the kids get away!)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

I think they made two movies recently about Fish, weirdly enough.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

Finding Nemo and Piranha 3D

thermite art (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

ha

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

I like the less fantastical serial killer movies myself. One of the things I like about Zodiac and Memories of Murder is that both movies make it pretty clear that the main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses, it's that the police are poorly equipped to catch people who commit serial murders.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

Loved se7en, especially the cinematography, twas ruined by pitts overacting at the end.

is there a thread on pretty looking films/great cinematography type of thread discussions on one of the threads?

not_goodwin, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

Twin Peaks season 2 episodes with windom earl

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

One of the things I like about Zodiac and Memories of Murder is that both movies make it pretty clear that the main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses, it's that the police are poorly equipped to catch people who commit serial murders.

I agree -- most irl serial killers are more likely to be of low or average intelligence, they aren't criminal masterminds.

THX THO... (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

he main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses - gotta admit that those dudes are p interesting, but most sks are just sadistic perverts who get away with it as long as they do b/c of the randomness of their crimes.

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

lol xp - we seem to have a p fundamental disagreement here.

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

o wait, never mind. that is what I get for scanning posts too quickly

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

Ebert FUCKING LOVES (er, loved) The Cell

http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-cell-2000

écorché (S-), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 04:45 (seven years ago) link

deeply bad last graf there

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 05:38 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/se7en-screenwriter-how-a-mixup-david-fincher-led-gutsy-ending-963957

Screenwriter Andrew Kevin Walker was working at Tower Records in New York when he wrote Seven, which was optioned in the early 90s with Christmas Vacation director Jeremiah Chechik coming on board to direct. Chechik wanted to make a very different movie. Among the changes Chechik requested from Walker was one to alter that inventive ending. There was to be no head in a box.

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 15 January 2017 05:30 (five years ago) link

-31. Zodiac

Neanderthal, Sunday, 15 January 2017 06:03 (five years ago) link

God what's that fucking movie with Annabella Sciorra where Alan Alda turns out to be the psycho murderer? Was he serial in that?

― Jon Lewis, Friday, September 7, 2007 5:28 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"The West Wing"?

― HI DERE, Friday, September 7, 2007 5:28 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Neanderthal, Sunday, 15 January 2017 06:03 (five years ago) link


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