The Tony Scott Poll

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since we have a michael mann poll, why not?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Top Gun 6
The Last Boy Scout 6
True Romance 5
The Hunger4
Man on Fire 4
Crimson Tide 3
Enemy of the State 3
Days of Thunder 1
Beverly Hills Cop II 1
Domino 1
Deja Vu 1
The Fan 0
Spy Game 0
Agent Orange 0
Revenge 0


the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

wake me when you get to Brett Ratner

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

morbius, i think you should support me in my "controversial" opinion vis a vis michael mann here.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

oh man fuck tony scott, i think i'll go with last boy scout

da croupier, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.follementgay.net/famous/deneuve-sarandon2.jpg

ghost rider, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

True Romance is much, much better than anything Mann's done.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

only one of these movies has Bob Duvall

gabbneb, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Almost all of these are better than anything Mann's done.

John Justen, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I finally saw Crimson Tide all the way through - it's pretty awesome. "Angry Dudes On A Boat" sounds lame, but Denzel and Hackman work.

But "Man on Fire" is a goddamned masterpiece.

milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Enemy of the State gets an honorary mention for being the movie where his meth addiction just took over, I think.

milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

man on fire and spy game are both surprisingly watchable.

there is a hilarious discussion on the imdb message board page for the hunger. it is titled "What's it rated R for?"

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think I like any of those movies. Liked The Hunger when I was a kid, but watched it again and was bored to death - super sucky. True Romance is okay.

Bob Standard, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i keeping thinking "spy game" is "spy hard" and getting excited

ghost rider, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i keeping drinking in the afternoons apparently too

ghost rider, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

none of the stuff i liked ok makes up for the fan

da croupier, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

the fan is HILARIOUS

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Tony was way ahead of the curve in hating Barry Bonds.

milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw and very much liked the tone of Last Boy Scout. "We're sexist morons who are blowing shit up and taking your $7"

also, SOMEBODY made Top Gun as gay as it could be.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

and that SOMEBODY was Val Kilmer

gabbneb, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

no, tom cruise and anthony edwards were pretty f'ing gay in it too

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never seen Top Gun. :(

milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

ohhhh Val was lit PERFECTLY tho.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I never saw the whole thing -- taped it and just went to the lockerrom and volleyball scenes.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvQ-zXxYrE LOL XPOST

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^ this youtube is for u, morbs

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrjOWtwUQmU

milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never seen Top Gun. :(

DUDE

gabbneb, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

that movie loved its afterburners

gabbneb, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never seen Top Gun. :(

Y U SAD?

stevienixed, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

youtube is banned at work.

True Romance is the only other one I've seen, and really why would I go after that one.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

P.U., except for Enemy of the State and True Romance.

Eazy, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Does ILE just not like movies?

Kerm, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

No, it just doesn't have taste.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

does anyone have a link to this looong, well-written article about the making of days of thunder? it could be a movie all on its own, it's amazing. scott was high all the time, had no script, and was basically drowning in hookers.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

haha wait actually that was don simpson and jerry bruckheimer; i retract my statement about tony scott drowning in hookers

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

oh man

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

didn't don simpson die on the toilet of a heart attack while reading a tell-all by one of said hookers?

da croupier, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i bet raggett knows

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't Cruiser get a "story" credit for DOT?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

True Romance is much, much better than anything Mann's done.

-- horseshoe, Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:11 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

bullshit.

the book 'high concept' about don simpson has a lot of material on 'days of thunder'. robert towne wrote it, morbs.

'deja vu' is awes.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Spy Game is underrated!

(Top Gun is beyond reproach, the Hunger is hilarious, and Crimson Tide is awesome. True Romance is okay too.)

Jordan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

True Romance was a movie directed by one of Seth Rogen's friends in Knocked Up.

Spy Games may be the only watchable thing on that list, not least because Robert Redford's face has a convincing resemblance to poached salmon.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

true romance is brilliant for about three minutes, interspersed over two full hours.

I voted Top Gun, because you gotta know I love the hunky butt lovin.

kenan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.laweekly.com/art+books/books/days-of-plunder/6904

By day, from his suites at the Daytona Beach Marriott, Simpson would dispatch two assistants, Dave (known as Dave the Rave) Robertson and Dave (known as Baby Dave) Thorne, to area beaches, to ask attractive young women if they wanted to attend a party for Tom Cruise. By night, the women would join Simpson, Bruckheimer, Cruise, screenwriter Robert Towne and Scott for dinner and after-hours discotheque dancing. One night the crew rented an entire bowling alley and threw a party. Another night a local Daytona Beach discotheque called the Palace was closed down for a party, where rapper Tone Loc performed.

...

One afternoon, Weber found (Simpson) sitting with his head in his hands. "We’re fucked," he moaned. "We’re fucked. There’s no story here. We barely have a first act, and then we don’t have anything after that."

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Also from Top Gun: showing up at a potential girlfriend's doorstep in a rainstorm, soaking wet? That's a good move, yo. Works.

kenan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Only seen a few of these. I'm tempted to go with Days... just because I had all of the toys when I was a kid.

C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, oh, I forgot about Crimson Tide. That one worked great.

Eazy, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Holy shit do I love movies where people yell at each other on submarines. Didn't we have a thread about that?

Jordan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think i've seen a sub movie that didn't have some yelling at each other in it

gff, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/1191/1739/lo/co1.jpg

?

Jordan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.maxx-xs.nl/images/covers/small/0209300403.jpg

kenan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

kenan seriously what is with you

gff, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

that was not my first butt joke, and it will not be my last

kenan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I found you, Miss Das Booty

milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I voted Man On Fire since the DVD commentary on Hot Fuzz confirms it to be the inspiration for the ridiculously overblown perp-booking sequences

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

police paperwork is intense

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X6OlRvnOzY

milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

tracer hand -- yup that guy charles fleming wrote 'high concept: don simpson and the hollywood culture of excess', which is basically ALL like that. it's fucking great.

apparently michael mann and simpson got matching black ferarris, at one point in the mid-eighties.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

kenan, does yr cutie-pie gay brother like Top Gun?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I think he's too young for Top Gun. Which feels like a weird thing to say, but I'm sure there's some other goofy-ass homoerotic schlock-fest that does it for him.

kenan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

"300"

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

He didn't mean the movie.

Eazy, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

*rimshot*

kenan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 30 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

ILX is so gay.

milo z, Friday, 31 August 2007 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

They were shooting TS's remake of Taking of Pelham One Two Three around my subway stop last week. Saw nothing but trailers and some crew.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

http://gooseyoubigstud.ytmnd.com/

latebloomer, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

eat shit.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

RIP

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

holy fuck

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

so there's this whole 'vulgar auteurism' thing going around the last couple weeks, championing Scott, Michael Bay, etc, and Nick Pinkerton has had enough.

A couple of years ago I interviewed Dave Kehr, a self-professed adherent to Bazin’s pronouncement, and auteurist working very much in Sarris’ classical humanist vein. Kehr had the following to say about the not-yet-proclaimed Vulgar Auteurs:

“The directors who really rub me the wrong way right now are people like Tony Scott and Michael Bay… these kind of macho guys who go out there and do a million shots and beat up the audience with them… I have seen some people defending Tony Scott, like the Cinema Scope guys have kind of adopted him as their favorite Hollywood director, I think just out of sheer perversity, because… I don’t see anything in those. It’s just trash to me, one shot after another, it’s just nonsense. But he does have his little following.”

I try to think the best of my fellow critics’ motives, to believe that their enthusiasms aren’t spurred by sheer contrarian perversity. (Although in the case of the elevation of a piece of shit like Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning, you have to wonder…) When I read the likes of Vishnevetsky’s “Smearing the Senses” and Christoph Huber and Mark Peranson’s “World Out of Order: Tony Scott’s Vertigo,” I must believe that their authors are speaking for the greatness of Scott out of a real sense of conviction, however incapable I am of agreeing with or even comprehending the arguments therein, however much I would have, retrospectively, preferred to have thrown the money I spent seeing Domino and The Taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3 out the window of a moving cab instead.

http://blog.sundancenow.com/weekly-columns/bombast-96

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 June 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

Film is serious business.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 7 June 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

it's hard to come up with new things to say. i imagine this effects film critics more than most.

ryan, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

I guess this will have to be watched by me

http://moviemorlocks.com/2013/06/11/no-such-agency-the-nsa-enemy-of-the-state-and-edward-snowden

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

hasnt younger critics reevaluating lowbrow directors, to the horror and revulsion of old ass farts like dave kehr and wretches like nick pinkerton, been a thing for decades now

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

been baked into the DNA of the art form ever since it slunk out of the penny arcades

truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

The completed review package, including all attachments would be provided to the respective IOU. We anticipate the primary method of delivery will be via e-mail, following up with hard copies as required

oh good ad hominem attacks

I don't have a problem with people pointing out that Bay et al have themes/tropes/an ouevre (of course they do!) but that doesn't make their movies any better or interesting to watch.

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

hahahah oh good more c+P errors

um

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

what I meant to quote was

I don’t really see the need to preach the gospel of Justin Lin to the halls of academia and New York essayists, because what kind of a fuckin fuddy duddy doesn’t appreciate Justin Lin?

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

lol

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Started watching the Pelham remake last night. I thought it would be a reasonably entertaining diversion by default. Visually, the credit sequence was jarringly ugly. Once that settled down, Travolta took over. Robert Shaw's wry, existential cool was gone: loud, pushy, profane. Lasted about 15 minutes and bailed.

clemenza, Friday, 2 January 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link

six years pass...

Magary with Tony S praise

https://www.sfgate.com/streaming/article/tony-scott-director-top-gun-film-director-16098395.php

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link

Revenge is still a favourite; breaks my heart that people don’t love it. The whole ‘two different versions’ deal is a pain in the arse though, I wish you could get one with all the footage.

piscesx, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

Will say, one of only a handful of the hundreds of people I've interviewed (over the phone) who had me reach them at their personal number then later told me to call back anytime. Total joy to speak with, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Heads up True Romance fans:

https://www.arrowvideo.com/blu-ray/true-romance-limited-edition-4k-ultra-hd-steelbook-includes-blu-ray/13745658.html

There's a variety of editions with extra goodies but here's the core stuff:

New 4K restorations of both the Theatrical Cut and the Director’s Cut from the original camera negatives by Arrow Films
4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray presentation in Dolby Vision (HDR10 compatible) and High Definition (1080p) Blu-ray presentation of both cuts
Limited Edition SteelBook packaging with newly commissioned artwork by Sam Gilbey
32-page collectors’ booklet featuring new writing on the film by Kim Morgan and Nicholas Clement
Original uncompressed stereo audio and DTS-HD MA 5.1 surround audio
Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing
Audio commentary by director Tony Scott
Audio commentary by writer Quentin Tarantino
Audio commentary by stars Christian Slater & Patricia Arquette
Audio commentary by critic Tim Lucas
Select scene commentaries by stars Dennis Hopper, Val Kilmer, Brad Pitt and Michael Rapaport
Brand new select scene commentaries by stars Bronson Pinchot and Saul Rubinek
New interview with costume designer Susan Becker
New interview with co-editor Michael Tronick
New interview with co-composers Mark Mancina and John Van Tongeren
New interview with Larry Taylor, author of Tony Scott: A Filmmaker on Fire
Deleted scenes with optional commentary by Tony Scott
Alternate ending with optional commentaries by Tony Scott and Quentin Tarantino
Electronic press kit featurettes, behind-the-scenes footage and interviews with Tony Scott, Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Dennis Hopper and Gary Oldman
Trailers and TV spots
Image galleries

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 April 2022 21:07 (two years ago) link

Glad to see this getting a domestic release (it was issued in the UK last year, I think) but where is a blu or 4K special edition for The Last Boy Scout?

It's only been issued in bare-bones double feature or triple feature discs so far and a souped up edition like this for it would be a day one purchase for me.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 1 April 2022 21:39 (two years ago) link

Given the recent Willis news, a deluxe LBS reissue would probably be very welcome. I'd buy one, too. Right now I have it on a DVD twofer with Last Man Standing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 April 2022 21:45 (two years ago) link

True Romance has been one of my favorite movies of all time but I rewatched after a long hiatus recently and i got so annoyed by the score i turned it off. it never used to bother me!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 April 2022 05:04 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

wow Beverly Hills Cop II stiiiiiiiinks. painfully unfunny as a comedy and narratively adrift as a cops-n-heisters movie. not even much fun in terms of overdriven maximalist stylization.

Unstoppable probably my favorite of the ones I've seen? tho based on the results here I guess I should give Last Boy Scout and True Romance a try.

the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 6 July 2024 21:03 (one week ago) link

All 3 of the original BH Cop films are shit, but Scott’s at least looks pretty

I LOVE the original cut of Revenge (1990). Amazing novella by Jim Harrison, too. The Last Boy Scout is hilarious. Incredible beginning and ending

beamish13, Saturday, 6 July 2024 21:14 (one week ago) link

Amazed that no one voted for revenge. Shit, doesn’t anyone love Madeleine Stowe? Philistines

beamish13, Saturday, 6 July 2024 21:15 (one week ago) link


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