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i've been to SB before and i got the impression there wasn't much to like, do, bro, but never mind that, i'm headed there for the weekend and my goal is to sit on the beach, get some reading done, and only encounter the human race on my own limited terms (hotel, food, beer).

get bent, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i think you heard right. my friend who is moving to oakland has been living in SB for a couple of years and he HATES it. he says it's really beautiful and scenic and shit, but as for stuff to do/places to go etc. it really sucks ass. and nothting is open after 8pm.

Rubyredd, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i've never been, but i'd like to eat one of the super tacos, check out the beautiful-looking courthouse, and get a west-facing view from somewhere close to (or on) the water, preferably higher up. the natural history museum sounds like it could be interesting too.

gabbneb, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I been to Santa Barbara a few times. The beach is nice and State St has its moments and there are couple of OK museums, but there is not much in the way of shopping or curiosity. There's plenty of places to drink and eat although some of them veer dangerously close to sports bar and/or "fake" fancy restuarant territory. It is not a good town for coffee, unfortunately. But then maybe you don't need coffee.

I've never been to the campus, maybe there's more of interest around there?

Oh, but I really like the buildings downtown - pretty!

You're not staying in the State Street Hotel, by any chance? That's where I usually stay. Cheap as hell and RIGHT next to the railway tracks! (the station is right outside)

admrl, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

My wife really likes The Coffee Cat which is East of downtown, but tbh I think we only liked this so much because there was nowhere else in SB that catered much to interior bookish coffee-drinkers like ourselves.

That said, if you want some peace and quiet to read a book and look at the ocean, I think it's a good choice. The last time we went this is what we wanted and we got it.

admrl, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link

There's plenty of places to drink and eat although some of them veer dangerously close to sports bar and/or "fake" fancy restuarant territory.

that's what i found when i was last there. maybe if i do my research i'll discover something better.

You're not staying in the State Street Hotel, by any chance?

no sir.

get bent, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

this place probably isn't great or anything but looks moderately appealing - http://www.hotelvirginia.com/

gabbneb, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link

same here? http://www.innbytheharbor.com/index.asp

gabbneb, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i already have a hotel room. it ain't much (it ain't even cheap), but the vast majority of the hotel rooms in SB are sold out for the weekend!

get bent, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link

(i checked out B&Bs too, but they all want a minimum 2-night stay.)

get bent, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, maybe not the latter

gabbneb, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

(i'm just leaving myself notes here per usual)

gabbneb, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link

super tacos

if you mean la super-rica, you're 8080

get bent, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I was raised in Santa Barbara and live here for 3 more weeks before I move to Paris. It seems like a good tourist town, but I've never been completely sure what tourists *do* once they get here.

I've never been to the campus, maybe there's more of interest around there?

Not really.

iatee, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i loved SB the couple times I went tho w/the sneaking suspicion that I could never afford to live there (and I live in manhattan so...)

la super-rica lives up to the hype. meat + tortilla + LOVE there's also a great upsclae italian rest called mollie's the owner is improbably from africa but the food fits in the scene, sunny and refreshing.

I really enjoyed the drive up there from LA, cruising along the coast checking out passing little beach towns like Carpenteria.

m coleman, Friday, 20 July 2007 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link

killer waves, some decent italian grub, good for weddings and a little day trip.

nobody works in this town, it's nuts.

Steve Shasta, Friday, 20 July 2007 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

ISLA VISTA: NEED TO WALK DOWN THE STREET WITH YOUR CUP UPSIDE DOWN

chaki, Friday, 20 July 2007 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

H-IV

Steve Shasta, Friday, 20 July 2007 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL

chaki, Friday, 20 July 2007 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

what's the area where state street and de la vina merge together (near mackenzie park)? i like it -- it's understated, a little older/worn, with the sense that there's some money around but people aren't ostentatious about it. lots of independent businesses but there's a gelson's and a coffee bean and a trader joe's too if that's yer thing.

get bent, Sunday, 22 July 2007 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

WAHT I MISS???

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 22 July 2007 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

we have to go there next weekend for a wedding, hope we get time to check out what there is to check out (i've stopped by before, did the dead ass state st. thing at night, there's got to be more)

tremendoid, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

nope, that's it.

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I go regularly because it is a quiet and pleasant place -- ideal for hotel, food, beer. It's also an easy jaunt from Pasadena. I regularly stay in an old redone motor court motel off the harbor beach. From there it's a nice backstreet walk to the State St. restaurants. There is also a very nice park on the mesa above the marina. You can relax there or walk down the cliff-side staircase to a narrow strip of beach. The zoo is another place to spend a couple hours. And the people I travel with often take an afternoon out to hit the local wineries, although it's not my bag.

Gorge, Sunday, 22 July 2007 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Montecito is also there if you want to rub elbows with those who look down upon Santa Barbarians (HELLO AUNT SANDRA!).

I once caught a barracuda on the Santa Barbara pier.

Steve Shasta, Sunday, 22 July 2007 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

what's the area where state street and de la vina merge together (near mackenzie park)? i like it -- it's understated, a little older/worn, with the sense that there's some money around but people aren't ostentatious about it. lots of independent businesses but there's a gelson's and a coffee bean and a trader joe's too if that's yer thing.

San Roque. I'm pretty sure people there are only wealthy due to property values...it's pretty suburban in character.

iatee, Sunday, 22 July 2007 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Xpost on the local wineries. Take the 154 over the mountains into the Solvang/Santa Ynez/Los Olivos area - the drive itself is GORGEOUS - and enjoy some tastings at some of the many winery tasting rooms. Personal favorites: Bridlewood, Zaca Mesa, and Cambria. Lots of good restaurants, too, and not just those featured in Sideways. It gets crowded on the weekends, because its a lot nicer than LA and a ton of people come up there for wine tours - lots of stretch limos, etc., trekking from one winery to another.

We just got back from a day up there yesterday, it was a good time. As for living in the area, I have no idea.

B.L.A.M., Monday, 23 July 2007 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i still have never been to solvang. it's an itch i someday hope to scratch.

get bent, Monday, 23 July 2007 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I found Solvang pretty boring, it takes about an hour to see everything there is to see.

SB would be a good place to retire if I had enough money, but even at my age I wouldn't want to live there.

(Go Gauchos!)

nickn, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I had awesome Sushi in Santa Barbara.

Otherwise, I found it kind of like every other five-coffeeshop upscale town. But, you know, beach on one side, mountains on the other = hard to complain about.

Oh yeah, and skip Solvang. Totally pointless town.

Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Sushi place was called Arigato.

Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

right south of santa babs is goleta home of legendary punk venue/ studios the living room!

chaki, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Has anyone ever been to Ojai? That was one of the towns I wanted to hit but didn't have time. Sounded like it could either be awesome or just ridiculous.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

goleta is west of SB

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i went to SB for the 4th of july last year. it was fine. underwhelming.

max, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry jimmy i was thinkin 101 directions

chaki, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Sounds like you need directions 101.

OH!

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

can we ban hurting from ile too?

get bent, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I've only been to Ojai once, to visit some family friends, but it is even more a place to live when you want a nothing-ever-happens life than SB. I think there is a "downtown" shopping / cafe area but I can't imagine it being worth the trip unless you lived in Ventura. Probably a good area to drive through, though.

x-post: It's "North" by 101 directions anyway.

nickn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd rather take the high road on this one xpost

tremendoid, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

alot of the high grade marijuana we get in so cal is grown in ojai

chaki, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Has anyone ever been to Ojai? That was one of the towns I wanted to hit but didn't have time. Sounded like it could either be awesome or just ridiculous

Somewhat expensive tourist trap and celebrity hideaway along the lines of Julian only without the good apple pie. Back in the 1970s they used to advertise that they were the home of "TV's Six Million Dollar Man - Steve Austin"

The video for Green Day's "Wake Me Up When September Ends" was filmed there, which is about all you need to know

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

second trip to santa babs we returned to LA via Ojai, scenic winding drive through the hills to get there but sheesh what a boring town, kinda like nowheresville and a tourist trap at the same time. we had lunch at a hole-in-the-wall mexican place that looked promising yet the food resembled tacos you'd get in the midwest ca. 1970s.

m coleman, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

good to know. what about santa paula/fillmore?

tell me about the dunes.

gabbneb, Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

i am deeming this a central coast thread

gabbneb, Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

theres a great board game shop in santa barbara run by a really enthusiastic austrian(?) dude, talking like $60-$80 games, expansion packs, you name it, but the guy is a mensch and will cut you a deal, i bought risk 2210 there and ive unpacked it a lot and it looks real pretty but ive never actually played it

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i bought my bro some crazy version of axis and allies there

omar little, Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

re upthread, i love ojai but you don't go there for the town. i had a really nice time at the ojai retreat a few months ago, just staring out the window at the mountains, wandering the grounds, taking photos, "meditating" (if you like).

also suzanne's is quite good. we also tried feast bistro -- thumbs up on the food, thumbs down (in my one experience) on the flaky service.

but no, there's not much to "do" in ojai, and that's rather the point.

the birdman from the hilarious "alcatraz" prison (get bent), Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

hey, the retreat looks nice, thanks

gabbneb, Saturday, 22 November 2008 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

Tim's is a food truck next to brewery. you order online. looks like weekend hours might be dinner only.

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 October 2020 16:57 (one year ago) link

I also like nikka ramen down calle real

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 October 2020 16:59 (one year ago) link

I'M THE GOD OF GOLETA BABY

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 23 October 2020 17:03 (one year ago) link

(sorry)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 23 October 2020 17:03 (one year ago) link

In other moving to santa barbara news, any contractor recommendations or warnings? Plan to knock out a kitchen and bathroom reno post haste.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 23 October 2020 17:10 (one year ago) link

our experiences have been middling. I'd ask your realtor.

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 October 2020 18:01 (one year ago) link

Can ya'll tell me about the rainy season? Is it even called that? When does it happen? What is it like? Disclosures report that our new SB street floods and to park the car up the hill (what hill, I don't even know) when it rains.

Why yes, I'm buying a house with "issues."

In better news, we had a different foundation inspector in yesterday and he did not see "major red flags," so I guess there is that.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:34 (one year ago) link

winter is the "rainy season". It's the only time it rains all year. no storms, but the rain can be heavy. If drainage is poorly designed, it rains enough that water can collect. I'm not sure what is meant by "the street floods". Some streets are curved with "gutters" on the sides where water flows down. If a street floods, that implies it is at a local minimum elevation or something weird. Mission St is a bit like that.

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 October 2020 16:33 (one year ago) link

worsst flooding is usually at the castillo 101 underpass

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 October 2020 16:33 (one year ago) link

everyone generally happy about rain, as SB is peak beautiful when green and the lakes are full. Only bad when you have heavy rain after an off season wildfire that damages the soil.

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 October 2020 16:42 (one year ago) link

I mean there are things meteorologists call storms in winter but yeah the weird thing about coastal Southern California weather is there is basically no lightning ever.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 24 October 2020 18:27 (one year ago) link

welcome, quincie and partner! Congrats on finding one of the best spots to live in this here world. Now please don't tell anyone.

The Beige of Dadz (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 October 2020 01:38 (eleven months ago) link

Thank you! I will tell everyone back on the lesser coast that it is awful here and they should stay put :)

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 26 October 2020 12:20 (eleven months ago) link

We drove around yesterday with stupid grins on our faces :)

I keep thinking "oh I hope I get to do X on this trip" and then remembering this is not trip--this is *home* now.

Gonna be hard to go back to work tomorrow when "home" feels like a vacation destination.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:12 (eleven months ago) link

Oh and we got to see the house we bought yesterday, and we looooooooove it.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:13 (eleven months ago) link

aaaaaaay

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:16 (eleven months ago) link

If ya'll see a tall brunette driving a white pickup with Massachusetts plates (a rental, natch), that's me. Wave me over!

Later, if ya'll see a tall brunette driving a beat-up 12-year-old gray camry with DC plates (our own jalopy, natch), that's me. Wave me over!

Even later (we close next month and will be under construction for at least a month after that), we would love to have ilxs near and far come hang in the garden.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

quincie, feel free to complain about this 1 day of rain and drive so slowly on the 101.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 December 2020 20:48 (nine months ago) link

Everyone at the barn was freaking out about "horses standing in mud OMG" and I'm like whatevs, my pony has been through so much worse!

We can't get over how awesome this place is.

Except for the DMV but hey, show me a DMV that doesn't suck.

(And it actually wasn't that bad, just not as superior as the weather, the food, the scenery, etc.)

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 28 December 2020 21:34 (nine months ago) link

Barnmate also advised "do NOT drive on the 101, stick to side roads!" and I'm like lady I have spun cars on black ice on Pittsburgh hills, I think I can handle the 101 today.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 28 December 2020 21:35 (nine months ago) link

I felt the same way until I realised who I was sharing the roads with when driving in Southern California.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 December 2020 22:10 (nine months ago) link

I can relate, but I also imagine LA is another level. xp happy to hear you are still enjoying it out here. we are still settling in after our big move 1 mile up the road. we recently learned that our crawl space smells awful!

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 December 2020 22:26 (nine months ago) link

I have become rather intimate with our crawl space myself, given that I can see it through the rotten subflooring.

What started as a kitchen/bath reno has turned into a complete gut reno of the whole house, which is currently down to studs and said rotten subflooring (which itself will be replaced along with. . . pretty much absolutely everything else).

Moving into Milpas rental #2 next week, will be there for an indeterminate amount of time.

Will see how SB permitting office compares to SB DMV.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:22 (nine months ago) link

ooo wow. We are also doing an extensive reno of a portion. Our subfloor might be ok, but we have to replace all posts and piers and pour some new perimeter foundation. And we also have to fix the terrible compost smell. The internet seems to think you do this by either improving ventilation or removing ventialtion entirely and adding moisture barrier. These two things are opposites so I'm worried it's all bad.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 04:32 (nine months ago) link

Remember the good old days when it was just about retaining walls? :)

We knew the reno situation could snowball once we started pulling things out. Once it was clear that the subfloors should be replaced, then it meant drywall had to come down, and once that was the walls were opened up, why not go ahead and vault the ceiling? And we knew we needed to replace the knob and tube electrical for safety--easier now that it is all exposed.

I have not yet started to wrap my head around stuff I'd like to do outside. Does CA even have a lottery? Need to get some more cash flow going. I guess there is always the Chumash casino.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 04:52 (nine months ago) link

But back to adventures on Milpas: we decided that we are in the hood, we will eat at each and every restaurant from top of the street to ocean.

Unfortunately, this includes a Jack In the Box and a Carl's Jr.

Plenty of good stuff to offset those, thankfully.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 04:54 (nine months ago) link

KFC and Winchell's!

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 05:05 (nine months ago) link

There's 4 or so places I've not had yet. Always wondered about Cesar's.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 05:07 (nine months ago) link

Always wondered about seeing a Jewel concert between poker hands at the chumash as well.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 05:57 (nine months ago) link

We have done Winchell's and ruled it not as good as Eller's. Haven't tried Cesar's yet. Actually doing KFC tonight--it has been years and I do so grudgingly, but spouse is unreasonably excited.

There is also a Little Caesars to tackle. Haven't had that since the 80s I reckon.

Bossie's was great!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:08 (nine months ago) link

I seem to eat/drink coffee on East Haley a lot.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:09 (nine months ago) link

In fact I think I will walk over there now that the terrible, terrible weather has passed.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:12 (nine months ago) link

Oh and I have not done the hot dog place yet but am excited to make a custom corn dog out of hot italian sausage instead of dog.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:13 (nine months ago) link

Eller's is indeed better. Glad somebody is up for KFC. Maybe there's some joy in choosing sides? I enjoy Bossie's and hope they do well. That spot, an old dairy building that had a cow statue on the roof, has flipped a number of times. Bossie's seems to have possibly stuck? The Haley Corridor was starting to happen before the pandemic. Hopefully it will pick up where it left off afterward.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:47 (nine months ago) link

Spudnuts my dudes

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:18 (nine months ago) link

I prefer to eat my doughnuts with a side of mashed potatoes

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 22:56 (nine months ago) link

Fatal shooting in front of our place last night was. . . unexpected

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:04 (nine months ago) link

I'd imagine so! I wondered if it was nearby your current spot and hoped it wasn't. Santa Barbara is not immune to the occasional act of violence, typically "gang related" as this is described. We had some occur very near to the place we rented on Anapamu years ago. Most of it seems to happen closer to downtown, so it's a trade-off between living closer to the city and being nearer to incidents of crime. But things have happened even near Santa Barbara Middle School, which seems to be one of the swankier areas in the hills on APS.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:28 (nine months ago) link

100% of the two deaths i've been present at are described earlier on this thread

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:30 (nine months ago) link

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/ca/santa-barbara/crime-rate-statistics#:~:text=Violent%20crimes%20are%20defined%20in,a%205.03%25%20decline%20from%202016.

violent crime rate seems to trend near that for the US or at least california. murder/homicide is generally lower by a factor of 4. let's not give the Trumpers more ammo based on anecdotes.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:45 (nine months ago) link

i don't actually think SB is dangerous haha (although my post is true!)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:52 (nine months ago) link

I think this means that you are dangerous!

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:03 (nine months ago) link

in combination with santa barbara anyway

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:04 (nine months ago) link

You could fall off a cliff and into the sea, or eaten by a mountain lion, or almost get swallowed by a whale. Things of that nature

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:42 (nine months ago) link

celebrating laker fan might hit you with their car

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:47 (nine months ago) link

One of the victims was literally in front of our door :(. Apparently there were three separate spots where shots were fired along Liberty (which is only a block long). We were at the barn; came back at ~6:30pm to a lot of police tape. Detectives stopped by a couple of times but we obviously did not have anything to offer.

Very sad, I like this neighborhood a lot and don't feel it is dangerous at all!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:53 (nine months ago) link

nine months pass...

So this is the fire-y flip side of the paradise coin.

Pony evac'd to Earl Warren yesterday.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:42 (one week ago) link

Fires aside, this place is awesome and we are so happy to live here. It's been a year this month! We still don't live in the house we bought on video lol.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:43 (one week ago) link

Glad you've made it home -- the area, if not the house!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:36 (one week ago) link


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