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Are there any ILX meditation people? New enlightened answers please.

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

i just started doing this lately

river wolf, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i meditate on death

Heave Ho, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I did it from about 1990-1996. Really want to start up again now but it's a tough battle with hectic nyc life/40 hour job/dogs etc. The practice works for me, for sure.

(I learned tr@nsc3nd3nt@l m3d1t@t1on, but didn't buy into any of the other rackets M@h@r1sh1 and company had going. Just the med technique, a la carte.)

Jon Lewis, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I am an irregular practitioner of vipassana, which I picked up about 10 years ago

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I could try the irregular practitioner strategy. I feel like it doesn't help me much unless I do the 2x a day pretty strictly tho.

Jon Lewis, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it something you can learn in class and then practice alone once you grasp it or is it better in a roomful of people? I find the latter is often true of yoga. Something about energy, maybe just body heat.

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

How best for a novice to aproach it?

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Very quietly.

stevienixed, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

2 hours a day is just too much for me. On the other hand, its one of those things I know I would find worthwhile if I was more regular about it. However, it seems kinda selfish to do 2 hrs a day - it would deeply inconvenience my wife, and I'm pretty sure our baby wouldn't dig it either.

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it something you can learn in class and then practice alone once you grasp it or is it better in a roomful of people?

I can only speak for vipassana - which does not require any other people at all once you've learned it. Other people don't really add much to the experience, yr all just sitting there being quiet.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I did it in a group sometimes during the first year. After that, always by myself. This particular technique is extremely simple. Supposedly it matters a lot that you have the right m@ntr@ which they give you, you aren't supposed to share it with others, etc. I assume the m@ntr@s all come from a limited pool of Hindi nonsense words and they assign one to you based on general personality type/body type or whatever.

Sorry for all the pr00of1ng but i feel there's danger of g00glers with this subject.

Jon Lewis, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Shakey-- I meant two sessions a day, each one is only 20 minutes.

I could never ever do anything 2 hours a day except-- err, what I'm ostensibly getting paid to do right now...

Jon Lewis, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

vipassana is recommended as two 1-hr sessions per day (one in the morning and one at night) - sessions shorter than 1 hr kinda don't have the same effect.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

jeez I dunno guys. I'm probably gonna have 45 minutes a day max if I'm lucky. I hate capitalism.

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

David Lynch does the TM 20-minutes a day thing. I've never done TM - I'm averse to mantras and gurus and whatnot.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been meditating seriously for fifteen-plus years. The technique I use mostly is to lie prone and experience my body as an energy field. The mind can sense any areas of the body where energy is concentrated/built up and you can, in a sense, put yourself inside that space where the energy is built up in order that it may dissipate around you. Another way to disperse energy is to imagine something like an acupuncture needle being stuck inside these pockets of energy, creating a hole through which the energy can escape.

The point of dispersing pent up energy, of course, is to allow it to go where it is needed. To balance oneself energetically.

Recently I've started focusing on the chakra wheels as well. I'm taking a class on chakras right now, actually.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Shakey, Yeah you do have to take the mantra part pretty much. But once you've learned the technique, you can just tell the TM industry to go have sex with itself.

TS: David Lynch vs. Doug Henning

Jon Lewis, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Tim how much time do you spend per week on meditation?

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd do what david lynch does

rrrobyn, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

^ only half-joking

rrrobyn, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm actually always in varied states of being either in the spirit world or in this world. You get to the point where channeling energy is second nature - you're just constantly doing it. Lately, I've been going through an intense period personally and actually isolating myself and going into deep states has been necessary.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Was that supposed to be an answer to my question?

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, well, I mean to say that it varies. : D

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Like, don't you have traffic or post offices in San Diego? Are you in deep states when negotiating those?

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll visit San Diego, i think.

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

No, not deep states, but I'm aware of my energy and I can channel it.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

The more you open yourself up, too, by working toward balancing your own energy field, the more access to your body and mind divine spirits have to help and heal you.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I can believe that. Soemthing similar happened with yoga when I was doing it regularly. If you want to explain it in those terms, that is. It didn't really feel like something divine was helping me, more like something internal and grounded.

admrl, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

We all have spirit guides who are with us at all times. They can work with your body.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Grounding relates to the root chakra at the base of the spine.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

gygax!'s #1 secret myspace crush

Steve Shasta, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Tim I am fascinated by your approach, especially being constantly in and out of such states. I wish I could meditate, as my mind is always so "busy". I can very easily imagine and get into a frame of mind where I can imagine energy and suchlike though. Curious.

Trayce, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Even apart from going into states of meditation, one thing you can do is to think about your muscles and just letting go of tension. The sphicter is the big one of course. The amount of energy released just by relaxing the sphincter muscle is great.

In medidation, though, it's dealing with the energy throughout the body, not just in muscles.

As far as the mind goes, the old analogy is that thoughts are like birds that appear flying through your mental space. We can always release them - we don't have to focus on them. It's in this sense that we realize that, ultimately, we do, in fact, choose our own thoughts and are in control of our own minds.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

hey guys what'd i miss

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been struggling to do morning half-hour zazen for a few months now; starting tomorrow I'll be regularly dropping by my local Zen Center in the early AM. To be honest I have difficulty sitting alone. I get a sense of strength from sitting with a sangha that doesn't come when I sit alone (though whether that feeling is 'strength' or 'it would be frowned upon if I aborted this session to go get a meatball sub, so I'd better stay on the cushion' remains to be seen).

I also do zazen in a hidden little corner of the library for half an hour during my lunch break.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I've heard positive things about Vipassana, but I don't really know anything about it. Any resources you might be able to point me to, Shakey Mo?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I figure my taiji and giqong count as meditation, when I bother to do them.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

vipassana = www.dhamma.org

There is no hierarchy, no gurus, no theology, no religious dogma that goes along with it. There are no fees of any kind, it is completely free and open to everyone, and centers are staffed and run entirely by volunteers funded by donations. The meditation technique is what the Buddha himself practiced. I was also attracted to its combination of simplicity and rigor - the concept behind it is very basic but the practice itself is quite difficult (at least at first).

However, I should probably also mention that I did not learn vipassana in the US or in the presence of other westerners - I'm not sure what centers in the US are like, and I imagine you may find yourself in a class with a lot of annoying new age-ish "seeker" types and/or that guy from Weezer. Fortunately everyone maintains silence.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

There is no hierarchy, no gurus, no theology, no religious dogma that goes along with it.

And no results! Ha, just kidding. ;)

dean ge, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

With hand on bar, world is silent.

bastardo, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I got some totally chill book on meditation that helped me learn the following things: get comfy when you do it, ie a comfy chair or bed that you like & just close your eyes. Don't worry about emptying your mind or not thinking of anything. Don't worry if bad or negative thoughts come to you, just let them sift through. Don't worry if your mind is "busy," just let the thoughts fly by you but don't really focus on them or ruminate. Don't go into it trying to force some particular emotional state.

You can use a mantra if you want. For a while, mine was actually 'solve et coagula,' haha. Any word I want, not made up ones. It's like when you say any word over and over, ie "chalk" or whatevs, after a while it means nothing & can actually grow to be very amusing. Then I started imagining an image of a turtle & somehow that really works for me.

I liked the book because it was like building your own approach. Once you figured out ways that worked for you, just stick with them and don't act like there are rules & regulations. Or experiment with other things or methods or locations.

He also made the interesting point that if you get places a few minutes early, you have time to relax & never have the stress of rushing or being late, which is basically as good as meditating. Awesome.

Abbott, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of annoying new age-ish "seeker" types

That One Guy That Shows Up in Sandals & A Tie-Dye Asking About "Generating Energy"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

He should buy a gasoline-powered anything, or eat a pear, or go for a run...all of which generate energy.

Abbott, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, he should take out his pocket knife and prissily eat a pear.

moley, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, I live in Berkeley. Everyone is like this!

admrl, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

annoying new age-ish "seeker" types >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy from Weezer

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Now now, Abbott. The guy is a bozo, of course, but going for a run spends energy.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

It creates energy via the krebs cycle & vellular respiration, ie the energy which you then burn. Potential--->kinetic. Or I could be totally wrong.

I am imagining this guy as the New Age Retro Hippie from Earthbound:

http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/snes/eb/images/clay/newageretrohippie.gif

Abbott, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

er... that's how I feel most of the time!

snoball, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

OK, that sounded a bit flippant, sorry. What I mean is that as far back as I can remember, I've been able to drop into that kind of state pretty much instantaneously. I'm not claiming that it's proper meditation or anything, but it's an ability that's probably one of the key things that's stopped me from going crazy over the years. If I get too stressed, I can insta-meditate for a few minutes.

snoball, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

This thread reminds me that I really should try to make time to practise TM more often. Everything Jon Lewis said upthread holds pretty much true for me, too: the industry surrounding it is more than a little dubious but there were some truly decent and committed people involved. I read somewhere that there are now "unofficial" ways of learning the technique: if anyone has any experience of that, I'd love to hear it.

Anyway: it works wonders for me, and I really don't know why I fall out of the habit of doing it. Because I'm a knob, I guess.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 7 February 2009 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

was toying with the idea of doing the vipassana course that's coming up soon enough for a while now. but the timetable sounds a bit scary maybe and am also worried abt hemp-wearing types

4:00 am Morning wake-up bell
4:30-6:30 am Meditate in the hall or in your room
6:30-8:00 am Breakfast break
8:00-9:00 am Group meditation in the hall
9:00-11:00 am Meditate in the hall or in your room according to the teacher's instructions
11:00-12:00 noon Lunch break
12noon-1:00 pm Rest and interviews with the teacher
1:00-2:30 pm Meditate in the hall or in your room
2:30-3:30 pm Group meditation in the hall
3:30-5:00 pm Meditate in the hall or in your own room according to the teacher's instructions
5:00-6:00 pm Tea break
6:00-7:00 pm Group meditation in the hall
7:00-8:15 pm Teacher's Discourse in the hall
8:15-9:00 pm Group meditation in the hall
9:00-9:30 pm Question time in the hall
9:30 pm Retire to your own room--Lights out

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 14 January 2010 20:51 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

so i've been thinking of starting to do this

like, 20 minutes a day of just simple meditation

yday and today i did 10 minutes each, just sitting peacefully focusing on my breathing

i really have a lot of stress/anxiety to deal with, i feel like this might help a bit?

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:58 (nine years ago) link

and i have so many voices in my head, its like a fuckin pinball machine in there. i'd like to be able to slow that shit down.

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:59 (nine years ago) link

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i like "namu amida butsu" not because i believe at all in the tenets of amida buddhism but i love the way it repeats in my head. i guess that's what makes a good mantra.

― s1ocki, Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

just noticed this! it's still true, maybe i should use it!

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:59 (nine years ago) link

adam do you still do it? hoos?

any tips/thoughts would be great. we dont need to talk about past lives & stuff

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:00 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPh59jOoiEs

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:00 (nine years ago) link

When I'm on my game I'm doing 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes at night, but realistically lately it's more like 30 mins a day on days when I'm not really doing anything else in the morning.

Resist the feeling that you might be "doing it wrong" or wasting your time or "not really meditating" if you get distracted. Eventually those feelings will come up, because they always do. They're wrong.

some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:36 (nine years ago) link

THAT mantra quote is one of my all-time favourite must-be-underrated comic moments.

Delivered almost as a throwaway line in that scene, it says SO MUCH about so many things...

argosgold (AndyTheScot), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:41 (nine years ago) link

A friend of mine has gotten into buddhism recently and suggested I try metta bhavana, which is meditation on one's emotions and "lovingkindness", its good for self-image and such. Breathing/posture exercises I also want to try more of. I need to make some changes, I'm a bit of an aimless wreck.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:47 (nine years ago) link

Resist the feeling that you might be "doing it wrong" or wasting your time or "not really meditating" if you get distracted. Eventually those feelings will come up, because they always do. They're wrong.

― some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i liked the zazen thing that said, if another thought comes up, just take a mo to acknowledge it and let it go on its merry way

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:51 (nine years ago) link

yeah, be like, "thought."

I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:09 (nine years ago) link

whats up thought, i gotta peace

george pimpton (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:10 (nine years ago) link

i was doing ten minutes a morning for a while, i guess i was a bit calmer overall. i started after picking up a book called "start where you are" which imo was a pretty good place to "start."

I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:13 (nine years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/Start-Where-You-Are-Compassionate/dp/1570628394

i'm a newb but lots of advice therein^^ seems pretty clear and practical.

I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:19 (nine years ago) link

no newbs allowed

george pimpton (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:04 (nine years ago) link

jk

george pimpton (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:04 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

vgrrl: are you meditating up there?
hoos: my cushion is still sitting in my closet uninflated
hoos: which is probably some kind of metaphor

aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 20 December 2010 16:53 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

why do u have to pay to learn tm, seems like a total red flag w/ the word bullshit on it

mommyape (am0n), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:43 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

been doing this for about two weeks now. about 10 minutes a day. not always very successfully but taking it in stride and going easy on myself. i think once i stop wondering "has it been 10 minutes yet?" i can start doing it for longer!

ryan, Monday, 11 June 2012 01:56 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

The running thread got me thinking about this.

When I do long distance runs, I really believe this is akin to meditating. The whole listening to your breathing, concentrating for a period of time, being in the "now", even the ability to solve problems that have been bothering you, etc.

kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:32 (seven years ago) link

I used to meditate for 45 minutes every morning, but now I find that walking or cycling gets me in the proper frame of mind much easier.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:52 (seven years ago) link

That makes complete sense to me, as running has that same effect on me.

kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:58 (seven years ago) link

i have been wanting to start a meditation practice but have only been sporadic, though it's definitely something i want to engage in more.

open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 17:01 (seven years ago) link

I do meditative exercises but I've come to it through drama class, the deep breathing is used as a way to remove muscle tension and boost your voice, works very well and the sense of relaxation is amazing.

We also use these rubber balls a lot, probably more on the muscular side of things but I find them amazing.

They're called Miracle Balls and look very QVC and lame, but I find them amazing as part of meditative exercises as well as more active stuff.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 17:45 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

I had a 1-hour formal meditation last night at a public center with some monks present, guiding the process and chanting a bit. It's the longest session I've ever tried, and it was also the first time I'd done it in public. When they woke us out of it, I was sort of upset because I felt like it was 15 minutes max. I really did not believe I had been sitting there for an hour. There were a few instructions -- a mantra, a visualization, etc. -- but I pretty much ignored them most of the time and just let my mind wander. There were 2 or 3 different times when I felt like I was falling out of my body and snapped open my eyes and was extremely disoriented for a few seconds afterwards. Basically it felt like during that hour I was experiences many different conceptions of time.

It was a great experience and I would love to try this again, perhaps tomorrow! SO MUCH seemed to happen even though all I was doing was sitting still in one place.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 June 2013 04:06 (seven years ago) link

my bf has enrolled in a study through brown u. on the effects of mindfulness meditation practice on anxiety & depression & post traumatic stress. it's pretty intense , v interesting. he's asked to do at least 40 mins on his own each day in addition to a weekly 3 hour instruction plus a full day retreat. it's a neuroscientific approach, and it has involved him wearing an appliance to monitor his brainwaves during sleep and having EEG while he looks at 'stressful images' (burn victims! simulated domestic violence! wtf). it's all pretty nuts imho, there's some info on the lab here: http://www.brittonlab.com/

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:17 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Any tips on how to get started on meditating correctly? I just fall asleep.

*tera, Sunday, 4 August 2013 01:07 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...
three years pass...

So the last time I regularly meditated was almost 20 years ago. It was so hard for me to stay with the breath that I basically decided I couldn't do it.

Long story but I started again recently and ... it's mindblowingly different. I'm way better at staying with the breath, and when my mind wanders I'm able to bring it back without getting mad at myself. I feel like this honeymoon can't last but right now I'm pretty excited.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:38 (two years ago) link

The trouble with me and meditation is that my anxiety issues mostly manifest themselves through percieved breathing difficulties, so concentrating on my breath freaks me out.

chap, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:55 (two years ago) link

i thought like one point of meditation was to realize that you really can't control a lot of your mind's eye and to accept the wandering, as it were- become comfortable with the ugly thoughts as well as the good

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:12 (two years ago) link

I've found that mantra meditation is more comfortable for me than breath focused meditation.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:40 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

What’s a book on mindfulness that is useful that is by someone besides thich nhat hanh. I’ve read many books by that guy and loved them but would like to branch out

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 15:39 (one year ago) link

I've heard realllly good things about Pema Chodron, this book in particular https://www.shambhala.com/taking-the-leap-1448.html

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Friday, 16 November 2018 00:32 (one year ago) link

thanks! the subtitle makes it seem like exactly what i need

Trϵϵship, Friday, 16 November 2018 00:49 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I've been kind of frustrated with my meditation practice ... my first year had a bunch of fireworks, and then the last year or so hasn't really had any. On the other hand, I have better emotional awareness than I've ever had, including feeling emotions I'd literally never felt before, like eg feeling a sadness that has nothing to do with depression, a kind of healing grief.

Still, I miss going on retreat and things reliably getting wild. I'm not supposed to crave any particular type of experience in meditation but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:46 (one week ago) link

Things not getting wild might not be the worst thing. My best friend had a psychotic break while on a meditation retreat and has never fully recovered.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:08 (one week ago) link

Fair point, sorry to hear that.

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:15 (one week ago) link

I read about that kind of thing happening in The Buddha Pill and although I could certainly imagine it, hadn’t known of anyone it happened to firsthand or secondhand, sorry about your friend.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:23 (one week ago) link

I have been using this live app which is on sale for another day at 80% off/streetteam

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:25 (one week ago) link

A good Pema Chödrön article was discussed in class this week. Will try to post a link in a bit.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:28 (one week ago) link

Charlotte Joko Beck has been an influential read. TBH these days I do more reading about zen than actual sitting.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:55 (one week ago) link

Did my first Zen thing last weekend, short Zoom retreat with Roshi Joan Halifax. Really dug it. Will check out Charlotte Joko Beck.

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:29 (one week ago) link

Some people find her kind of a downer, but I love her.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:07 (one week ago) link

What’s the diff between zen and other practices?. I have fucked with TM but have had way better results w mindfulness over the past 6 months.

tobo73, Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:39 (one week ago) link

Roughly speaking, the difference is the lineage. Zen developed in Japan, branching from the Chan lineage in China. Zen lineage-holders were teaching in the US from like the late 1800s. It falls under the big umbrella of Buddhism, places more emphasis on meditation (zazen) then some other other lineages.

IANABuddhist nor an expert on these matters btw

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:44 (one week ago) link


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