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I couldn't find the old thread where we were talking about this, so here's a new one.

First of all Sanoodi is awesome. Much better than Google Maps Pedometer for keeping track of your runs. Here is my run from this past weekend, the longest distance I have run in my adult life. Yeah, I was going slow and basically shuffling my feet for 8 miles, but it felt great.

Jeff, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

After years of mocking, I've suddenly got into running (mostly because I can do at 2am after work when everything else is shut). I haven't bought any fancy tech yet, because I know that way lies importing specialist kecks from Japan that reduce drag coef by 0.002 somethings, but could definitely do with some proper shoes.

stet, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I wish to talk about running.

I can run 5.5 miles now (52 min.), which is truly astounding to me b/c there was a time not too long ago when I could not run a single mile.

So - what is your time? How far? Where? Etc.

differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

i am trying to go farther b/c i'm doing a half marathon in may but i have a weird thing where i'm afraid to go far away from my house because what if i break my ankle and have to limp 5 miles back or something? so i go in loops a lot. also i hate running when it's light out. wtf is wrong with me?

я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've thought about running farther out than I can run back. Do you live somewhere w/ public transit? If not, I'd advise that maybe you bring cab fare or your phone so you can call a friend. I've been running on a treadmill, so this hasn't been a problem. When spring comes I'll take it outside.

I don't know about running when it's light out! What is it that bothers you about it?

differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

i dunno, people looking at me and stuff. and you can see how far away stuff is so it makes it feel like more effort. running is such a mental thing, i can't even make myself do it sometimes because i'm remembering that last time was hard, even though it was also fun.

we have public transit, i could do that

я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Did my first run across the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday -- lots of fun. Total run was something like 3.2 miles.

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

Started running again for the second time in my life ever. Gave it up after my first 10k, found it too boring. Gearing up for a more manageable 5k in june sometime, hoping to break 20mins.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

am ratcheting up my irregular runs into regular ones - dunno how far it is but i usually run along the dalston canal from queensbridge rd to victoria park (approach rd) and back again - cracked some sort of barrier this week when i managed to do it all in one go, rather than stopping to die halfway through.

running tips would be appreciated, actually - basic stuff like pacing, breathing correctly, anything which makes it all more effective which a novice might not be aware of. i am so unbelievably shit at pacing myself.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

Am an amateur myself but "go slower" sounds like it might be good advice. When I first started I was almost sprinting, could barely do 100m let alone 10k. Then I figured out that maybe I should take it down a notch. Think jogging not running.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Some friends I run with barely go above walking pace...

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Key is not stopping: I'm not sure how far you go, but better to go from 30 mins at whatever slowish pace feels comfortable, then 40, then 50 etc...Eventually speed will follow, but until you learn to breathe evenly (ie maintaining a steady pace), it's hard to relax and enjoy it.

I run every other day, normally 3 laps of Prospect Park, which takes 80-90 mins, and is about...11 miles? I used to run the Brooklyn bridge and round seaport, battery, and up the west side highway - there are some good routes around there.

paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

i guess it's better to run further/for a longer time and slower than to push yourself wrt speed but only manage to run for half an hour, then?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

agreed.

paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

stopping is ok if you plan to start up again though--if you break up an hour run into 15-20 min segments walking a couple minutes in between it can be good for your endurance

i want to start going a little faster soon, my "short" run now is 3.5-4 miles but i think i want to add a day per week of intervals or pyramids? suggestions? i run no faster on short runs than on long runs, which is wrong.

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

A couple things I find helpful when I run

1. Try to be in your head and chest instead of in your legs, if that makes sense. Like focus on your upper body moving forward and not your stride (though you should check your stride from time to time)

2. Keep your torso/shoulders somewhat moving and loose -- this might just be personal because I have a shoulder/back problem that tends to cramp up when I run

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

no 2 makes sense - last week it suddenly hit me that my shoulders were SO TENSE when i was running - consciously trying to relax them seemed to make everything a bit easier

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

Anyone have advice for avoiding shin splints? During the winter I run on treadmills and don't have a problem. But I like to run on the street when it gets warmer, and it's not long before my shins start to hurt. Shoes are obviously the main factor. Last year I bought a new pair of shoes that weren't quite wide enough and they murdered my feet and shins. Now I have a pair that fits right, but I still find that I get some mild pain in my shins after running outside. I stretch for quite a while before I run, although I often run first thing in the morning and I feel like my whole body is a lot stiffer than it would be later in the day. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

lou, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

i guess it's better to run further/for a longer time and slower than to push yourself wrt speed but only manage to run for half an hour, then?

haha, i consider half an hour to be pretty good. i usually get bored around then.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

what i post about when i post about running

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Today: 5k in an exhausting 27 mins.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm starting this tomorrow, i've made a couple false starts the last few months but time to be less slothful

velko, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hmm, the splints. I've never stretched, and never had too many problems (sometimes heels though). I also feel less limber in the morning. Main thing, I think, is shoes. It's worth paying more ($150/year for exercise is cheap!) to go to a proper place that will analyze your running style on a treadmill, make the right suggestion (ie avoid going to a shitty chain store). Also, if you're used to treadmill / soft surfaces, the road takes a little while to adjust to - your shins are working slightly differently and complaining cos they're not used to it. So make that move slowly, if possible (a park with a dirt track?). Also, when they hurt, stop. It's no good trying to run through it, which can work with other kinds of running pain.

paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also, harbls right about stopping if you feel like it - between each 30 min lap of the park, I often stop for a minute or two to drink water, or tighten laces, or just calm down a bit...I meant more that it's better to maintain a steady pace than to run fast for 6 minutes then stop, winded, for a few more, then gallop off again.

paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

I get shin splints sometimes, but I can't really find a correlation between what I'm doing and the pain. A friend (Jeff, who started this thread) recommended that I get a gait test done at a one of these places http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/.

I've read that if your calves get overly strong compared to your shins, that your shins suffer.

W/r/t words of wisdom, I'll just tell you things I have done (I'm at around 6 miles max and usually 10 mpm). 1. Measure distance and time. Being on a treadmill really helped me with this. Or you can use http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ to measure your distance.

In any case, knowing the distance you run and the time you spent was invaluable for me b/c it helped me to quantify my accomplishments, not to cheat, and to set new goals.

2. I vary my speeds and distances. I read stuff about why doing this is good, and it seems to make sense and it feels good, so I do it. I guess you get to work on both speed and endurance this way.

3. Double espresso. Especially if I'm feeling tired or unmotivated, a shot of caffeine can turn a slogging, annoying jog into a decent run. Also at times when I've been trying to push myself to new goals, this helps. (I read this in a newspaper's health section and I also read something in a Men's Health or somewhere about how a flat Coke is perfect for when you hit a wall on a long run.)

milk plasma (Jesse), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

it's good because it is a shot of sugar, so

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

^ yeah i've never understood this because sugary stuff when you're exercising is so gross, and causes cramps! whatever works.

anyway i've just gotten up to 6 miles (takes me an hour but oh well!) but i have trouble running during the week so i'm doing ok with long runs but not shorter, faster ones! fail.

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://www.doitsports.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0009w6

I read a magazine article posted in a coffee shop about how caffeine before running can be a good thing.

By the way, the reason I do double espresso instead of a coffee or soda is that it's more concentrated, not b/c I think it contains more caffeine. A minor peeve of mine is when people get all het up about espresso keeping you awake for days, etc.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's strangely ILX-ish over in that board.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 16:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

I forgot I started this thread.

Jesse, let's run today. We'll race.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

I won't run unless I can track it somehow. Currently I use the Garmin Forerunner 305, but I'm jealous of the smaller 405 these days.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

Having said that, I haven't run since 1/4/09 when I ran 2 miles in 19:21. I was so dissapointed in myself I haven't done anything since then. Plus it's been too damn cold.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have only really done any serious running on the treadmill and I will not be racing you. I will run w/ you, though not today.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

OK, I ran. 2.35 miles in 22:21. It was pretty miserable. I think I need to go to an ENT before I do that again.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

I want to start running. I'm afraid I'll be one of those guys that gets a heart attack immediately. Oh well. Where to start? There's a gym down the block from me that's only $5 a day. Should I be intimidated by the 'gym people?' Just bought an iPod shuffle. There are lots of nice places to run outdoors here too. Is the 'runner's high' real? Help me get started!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 March 2009 09:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think the best thing is to just make a start. and don't feel bad if you go slow! i agree with that person up there that said just keep going as far as you can, even if it's just a shuffle.

I've heard this site/program is good for starting out: http://www.c25k.com/

behind the times (gem), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

No need to be intimidated by the gym people - they are just there doing their thing and you don't need to worry about being judged. If you're going to run on a treadmill (which I think is good to do sometimes to get realistic assessments of progress, as discussed above) getting an employee to show you how it works could set your mind at ease. They're pretty straightforward, but still.

Also what gem said - just do what you can to begin and if you keep it up, you will be fine. Following a program would be a great idea.

I don't know about runner's high - can anyone speak to that? I've heard that it's the rush of endorphins you get at some point during a hard run, but I don't know if I've ever experienced it.

milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

i did the couch to 5k--didnt get up to 5k but i was doing 2 miles in around 20-25 minutes when i stopped (which is a HUGE accomplishment for someone like me). i think its helpful for the kind of person (like me) who needs concrete goals, times, distances, etc. in order to feel and measure progress. without it i would end up spending a week just sort of running for half an hour at a time and abandoning it because there was no structure. once you complete the c25k you can just go out there and start doing 3 mile runs or whatever. i should take it up again really.

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

i haven't gotten it recently but i did sometimes get runners high when i was in better shape, like when i was 19. i think you would know if you got it though. it feels like you don't have to try and you could keep going forever, not like the struggle it normally feels like. cruisin'

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have gotten that sort of feeling. I just thought it was supposed to be some sort of euphoria. Maybe my standards for euphoria are too ambitious.

milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol people who tell u runners high is like ecstasy are people who have never done ecstasy--its more like "being in a good mood"

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

i try to do btwn 3-5 miles every other day & basically track totals by month which helps a lot w/ the structure and measuring aspect

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

No runner's high for me. It is miserable every single step.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Every winter gets me totally out of the routine and out of shape, but I'm getting started again since the time change, and since the sidewalks haven't been iced over for a couple of weeks. (I know some people get out of bed an hour earlier to go running in the cold just before sunrise, but...no, I run because I *like* it). Right now I'm only running about 3 miles a couple times a week, and I'd like to work up to more regularly running 5 miles again, hopefully approaching 10 in the summer.

I don't think I've experienced runner's high, which I've always thought is because I like to fall into a comfortable groove that I can keep up for a long time, instead of pushing myself so hard I break through some kind of crazy physical barrier...but if it's more "cruising" and less "euphoria", maybe I have!

Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

If what I've experienced is a runner's high, and if that experience is what others consider euphoria, then I pity those people.

milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

I ran 2 miles today in 18 minutes, which is Very Good.

milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

i dunno it's kind of like you feel a switch go off, i really think you would know

(lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

also do you guys run in the morning? i can't do it, i always feel so stiff and tired, and if i plan to wake up earlier to run i just end up going back to bed. i'd like to do it in the morning just to get it done but i'm wimpy.

(lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't even go back to bed, I can't get out of it in the first place. I ran in the morning when I first started, but I didn't need to be at work very early then, so it was easier.

Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

yup and in 92 it was barely an mtb mecca and you could meet ppl from moto world who remembered it pre-mtb as a moto track, right? It’s always mutatis mutandis here on earth... have a good run-

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 11:50 (five months ago) Permalink

still haven't made it to moab u_u

gbx, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:18 (five months ago) Permalink

i just registered for a 5k! anticipation...

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:21 (five months ago) Permalink

Made it thru, beat reasonable objective time by 2 secs. I had no extra speed at the end, my energy expenditure was pretty right on for a tt. For a non runner it seemed fair and fun, and the pancakes and beer were legit tasty.

Hunt3r, Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:05 (five months ago) Permalink

Sub 19 again this week. Added bonus was beating CJ from Eggheads

groovypanda, Saturday, 12 May 2018 20:04 (five months ago) Permalink

Much respect. (but with a side of slightly resentful envy, how do u do it!?)

Hunt3r, Sunday, 13 May 2018 03:15 (five months ago) Permalink

sub 19 is legit smashing it imo, kongrats gp

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Sunday, 13 May 2018 07:48 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

i've been kind of slogging it through runs lately but this morning i had one of those 'high as a fucking kite' runs that come along every once in a while... ah life.

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:34 (four months ago) Permalink

I've been running on and off for over half a decade and have yet to experience that lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:49 (four months ago) Permalink

Lol yep, still waiting on that.

Still return to running program, run/walking, for the past 2 months, up to 10 minute run, 1 min walk. Hope to return to continuous running next week. So out of shape though. I’ve lost at least 45 seconds a mile off my easy run pace. Shit takes forever to come back.

Jeff, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:56 (four months ago) Permalink

good lord then why do you guys do it. it's supposed to be fun.

jeff try squats you'll be back in no time.

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:09 (four months ago) Permalink

v good way to channel self hate tbh

Simon H., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:12 (four months ago) Permalink

haha

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:13 (four months ago) Permalink

good run the other day lost in the mountains and got a ride on an off road vehicle from a guy named tiny

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:16 (four months ago) Permalink

thumbs up

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:33 (four months ago) Permalink

i gave a ride to this woman a few weeks ago, can't remember her name but she was 70% blind from some accident and traveling the world, she gave me $20 which was nice because honestly i needed it.

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:35 (four months ago) Permalink

this was after a trail run and she was also running when she put her thumb out. i stopped because it's rare to see other runners in mountain bike trail areas.

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:38 (four months ago) Permalink

jeff try squats you'll be back in no time.


I actually have been lifting, 3 days a week since I can only run 4 days a week right now. Squats, bench, overhead press, leg press and a bunch of other stuff. Been at it consistently for 3 weeks now, still waiting for some massive improvement or something. IDK, I hate weights, I just needed something to fill my time so I’m working out in some way 7 days a week.

Jeff, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:08 (four months ago) Permalink

guys if u hate running may i suggest riding a bike its much faster and more fun and you dont ruin yr knees

gbx, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:52 (four months ago) Permalink

i bought a new bike six weeks ago and i don't think i've done any running since :(

soon though, i promise!

Toto Cuomo (NickB), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:12 (four months ago) Permalink

The joy in running is in the suffering! It’s too easy to have fun riding a bike, I don’t need that temptation.

Jeff, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:23 (four months ago) Permalink

i like a nice easy ride for run recovery days, loosens the legs up

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:32 (four months ago) Permalink

why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPoXY5mH2RA

Hunt3r, Monday, 11 June 2018 22:11 (four months ago) Permalink

lmao

sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 11 June 2018 22:36 (four months ago) Permalink

oh god

you bet, nancy (map), Monday, 11 June 2018 22:45 (four months ago) Permalink

oh no!! and i’m not sure i see how that’s all that different from a supersized kids’ balance bike other than the fact the you now have a giant metal pole inches away from your face

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 05:03 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Smashed my Half Marathon PB yesterday in the Severn Bridge HM.

Weather was atrocious, course was quite hilly but somehow managed to knock almost three minutes off my previous PB in a time of 1:27:48.

Got a fun, downhill 10K in a couple of weeks then the Cardiff Half a few weeks after that and the Mendip Muddle a week later which will be my first ever trail run (with zero trail training).

Anyone else got any events coming up?

groovypanda, Monday, 27 August 2018 20:29 (one month ago) Permalink

i'm doing a half marathon on september 9th in coney island. the "indian summer half marathon."

i ran 9 miles very slowly yesterday. that's the most i've ever run. i think i'll be able to finish this.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 27 August 2018 20:40 (one month ago) Permalink

If you can run 9 miles you should be able to do 13. Just take it at a comfortable pace (especially if it's hot), make sure to keep hydrated and enjoy the race.

groovypanda, Monday, 27 August 2018 21:17 (one month ago) Permalink

Yep, have fun! Until it stops being fun, then keep going!

A Box of After Dinner Comics Shipped to Your House Each Month (seandalai), Monday, 27 August 2018 21:30 (one month ago) Permalink

good luck Treeship! I'm thinking about signing up for my next half in February, only doing about 10-12 miles a week right now... too hot to be running 5+ miles at a pop, but evenings should cool down below 90F in about six weeks and I can start getting some mileage.

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 27 August 2018 21:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks! I found the secret to increasing my mileage was audiobooks. Before I would have nothing to focus my mind on and the time would just drag on

Trϵϵship, Monday, 27 August 2018 21:45 (one month ago) Permalink

I used to listen to music but after Trump I'm so burned out on sounds I need my runs to be dead silent

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 27 August 2018 21:48 (one month ago) Permalink

I used to do silent in college and loved the meditative aspect but recently have needed music to prevent anxious thoughts creeping in and ruining my momentum

Trϵϵship, Monday, 27 August 2018 21:51 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

finished my half marathon. extremely sloooooowwwww but i want to do the brooklyn half next year now and do it in under 2 hours.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 16 September 2018 18:53 (one month ago) Permalink

since i didn't train properly i had all kinds of weird soreness for the week after but i did feel exhilarated after finishing. exhilirated and nauseous.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 16 September 2018 18:54 (one month ago) Permalink

the spousal (now ex-)runner i know says halves are the correct endurance distance for testing endurance speed. much past that, other things are starting to interfere with the speed/conditioning measurement- body type burdens, food processing questions, soft tissue joint complications- sort of like those who say long course tri or longer starts being about how well your body can absorb food/nutrition during exertion which is- is that _really_ an athletic conditioning issue?

Hunt3r, Sunday, 16 September 2018 20:05 (one month ago) Permalink

congrats, btw!

Hunt3r, Sunday, 16 September 2018 20:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Half marathon by far by least favorite distance. They’re just brutal to race.

Jeff, Sunday, 16 September 2018 20:57 (one month ago) Permalink

ICYMI, incredible.

https://youtu.be/6rqaP0dk2bg

Jeff, Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:05 (one month ago) Permalink

i think i injured myself at the half marathon

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:47 (one month ago) Permalink

just tried running a few km for the first time in a few years and apparently dropping 25lbs will do fuckin wonders for your pace

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 21:10 (one month ago) Permalink

This year has been good despite (in NYC) a really cold winter and hot summer. Just hit 1,500 miles, so I'm on course for my goal of 2,000 for the year. Maybe 1/3 of my runs have been in other places since I travel quite a lot for work. A lot of 6am wakeups to run. Barely bother with afternoons or evenings anymore - but maybe should look back into it.

paulhw, Friday, 21 September 2018 23:15 (one month ago) Permalink

My running keeps getting slower and slower at the RPEs, same low running volume and general intensities - i think i’m now off about 20 secs/mile. Weight is the same. My cycling mileage has gone up, but my times there have gotten worse on climbing segments there, too.

I dont expect aging effects are linear or smooth, and i’m wondering if its just an aging downstep? Literally in the past two weeks i had my first noticed incident of reading difficulty at my normal range- i had to push page back a bunch of inches. I’m 51 so ive been the envy of most of my friends for years really, but fuck. Reading glasses are gonna happen before long i assume.

Hunt3r, Saturday, 22 September 2018 00:22 (one month ago) Permalink

“same RPEs”

Hunt3r, Saturday, 22 September 2018 00:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Change up your pace. Throw in some strides at the end of your run or surges during it. Run some fartleks.

Jeff, Saturday, 22 September 2018 10:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, you need to vary up your training. Some long slow runs, some hills, intervals etc

I've been doing a half marathon up some steep hills once a week for the last couple of months and my 5K & 10K pace have improved considerably as a result.

groovypanda, Saturday, 22 September 2018 19:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Thx. I dont want to get faster (i dont love running) tho i know it is super likely if i would run a decent amount. without speed work, periodization, weight loss or anything. I run 2x3mi/wk. enough to keep my joints moving.

Its just my regular tempo pace on minimal runs has always been very predictable using either hr or rpe. And it is sliding.

Hunt3r, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:49 (one month ago) Permalink

What is rpe

tobo73, Saturday, 22 September 2018 23:52 (one month ago) Permalink

rate of perceived exertion, its 80’s pre-hrm style of measuring zones where easy is 4-5, tempo is basically 6 thresh is 8ish and anaerobic 9+ or 10. Dunno if it was a cycling only thing but i never treated it suchly.

Hunt3r, Sunday, 23 September 2018 00:32 (one month ago) Permalink


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