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I couldn't find the old thread where we were talking about this, so here's a new one.

First of all Sanoodi is awesome. Much better than Google Maps Pedometer for keeping track of your runs. Here is my run from this past weekend, the longest distance I have run in my adult life. Yeah, I was going slow and basically shuffling my feet for 8 miles, but it felt great.

Jeff, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

After years of mocking, I've suddenly got into running (mostly because I can do at 2am after work when everything else is shut). I haven't bought any fancy tech yet, because I know that way lies importing specialist kecks from Japan that reduce drag coef by 0.002 somethings, but could definitely do with some proper shoes.

stet, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I wish to talk about running.

I can run 5.5 miles now (52 min.), which is truly astounding to me b/c there was a time not too long ago when I could not run a single mile.

So - what is your time? How far? Where? Etc.

differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

i am trying to go farther b/c i'm doing a half marathon in may but i have a weird thing where i'm afraid to go far away from my house because what if i break my ankle and have to limp 5 miles back or something? so i go in loops a lot. also i hate running when it's light out. wtf is wrong with me?

я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

I've thought about running farther out than I can run back. Do you live somewhere w/ public transit? If not, I'd advise that maybe you bring cab fare or your phone so you can call a friend. I've been running on a treadmill, so this hasn't been a problem. When spring comes I'll take it outside.

I don't know about running when it's light out! What is it that bothers you about it?

differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno, people looking at me and stuff. and you can see how far away stuff is so it makes it feel like more effort. running is such a mental thing, i can't even make myself do it sometimes because i'm remembering that last time was hard, even though it was also fun.

we have public transit, i could do that

я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Did my first run across the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday -- lots of fun. Total run was something like 3.2 miles.

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

Started running again for the second time in my life ever. Gave it up after my first 10k, found it too boring. Gearing up for a more manageable 5k in june sometime, hoping to break 20mins.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

am ratcheting up my irregular runs into regular ones - dunno how far it is but i usually run along the dalston canal from queensbridge rd to victoria park (approach rd) and back again - cracked some sort of barrier this week when i managed to do it all in one go, rather than stopping to die halfway through.

running tips would be appreciated, actually - basic stuff like pacing, breathing correctly, anything which makes it all more effective which a novice might not be aware of. i am so unbelievably shit at pacing myself.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Am an amateur myself but "go slower" sounds like it might be good advice. When I first started I was almost sprinting, could barely do 100m let alone 10k. Then I figured out that maybe I should take it down a notch. Think jogging not running.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Some friends I run with barely go above walking pace...

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Key is not stopping: I'm not sure how far you go, but better to go from 30 mins at whatever slowish pace feels comfortable, then 40, then 50 etc...Eventually speed will follow, but until you learn to breathe evenly (ie maintaining a steady pace), it's hard to relax and enjoy it.

I run every other day, normally 3 laps of Prospect Park, which takes 80-90 mins, and is about...11 miles? I used to run the Brooklyn bridge and round seaport, battery, and up the west side highway - there are some good routes around there.

paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

i guess it's better to run further/for a longer time and slower than to push yourself wrt speed but only manage to run for half an hour, then?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

agreed.

paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

stopping is ok if you plan to start up again though--if you break up an hour run into 15-20 min segments walking a couple minutes in between it can be good for your endurance

i want to start going a little faster soon, my "short" run now is 3.5-4 miles but i think i want to add a day per week of intervals or pyramids? suggestions? i run no faster on short runs than on long runs, which is wrong.

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

A couple things I find helpful when I run

1. Try to be in your head and chest instead of in your legs, if that makes sense. Like focus on your upper body moving forward and not your stride (though you should check your stride from time to time)

2. Keep your torso/shoulders somewhat moving and loose -- this might just be personal because I have a shoulder/back problem that tends to cramp up when I run

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

no 2 makes sense - last week it suddenly hit me that my shoulders were SO TENSE when i was running - consciously trying to relax them seemed to make everything a bit easier

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone have advice for avoiding shin splints? During the winter I run on treadmills and don't have a problem. But I like to run on the street when it gets warmer, and it's not long before my shins start to hurt. Shoes are obviously the main factor. Last year I bought a new pair of shoes that weren't quite wide enough and they murdered my feet and shins. Now I have a pair that fits right, but I still find that I get some mild pain in my shins after running outside. I stretch for quite a while before I run, although I often run first thing in the morning and I feel like my whole body is a lot stiffer than it would be later in the day. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

lou, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

i guess it's better to run further/for a longer time and slower than to push yourself wrt speed but only manage to run for half an hour, then?

haha, i consider half an hour to be pretty good. i usually get bored around then.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

what i post about when i post about running

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

Today: 5k in an exhausting 27 mins.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm starting this tomorrow, i've made a couple false starts the last few months but time to be less slothful

velko, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm, the splints. I've never stretched, and never had too many problems (sometimes heels though). I also feel less limber in the morning. Main thing, I think, is shoes. It's worth paying more ($150/year for exercise is cheap!) to go to a proper place that will analyze your running style on a treadmill, make the right suggestion (ie avoid going to a shitty chain store). Also, if you're used to treadmill / soft surfaces, the road takes a little while to adjust to - your shins are working slightly differently and complaining cos they're not used to it. So make that move slowly, if possible (a park with a dirt track?). Also, when they hurt, stop. It's no good trying to run through it, which can work with other kinds of running pain.

paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

Also, harbls right about stopping if you feel like it - between each 30 min lap of the park, I often stop for a minute or two to drink water, or tighten laces, or just calm down a bit...I meant more that it's better to maintain a steady pace than to run fast for 6 minutes then stop, winded, for a few more, then gallop off again.

paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

I get shin splints sometimes, but I can't really find a correlation between what I'm doing and the pain. A friend (Jeff, who started this thread) recommended that I get a gait test done at a one of these places http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/.

I've read that if your calves get overly strong compared to your shins, that your shins suffer.

W/r/t words of wisdom, I'll just tell you things I have done (I'm at around 6 miles max and usually 10 mpm). 1. Measure distance and time. Being on a treadmill really helped me with this. Or you can use http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ to measure your distance.

In any case, knowing the distance you run and the time you spent was invaluable for me b/c it helped me to quantify my accomplishments, not to cheat, and to set new goals.

2. I vary my speeds and distances. I read stuff about why doing this is good, and it seems to make sense and it feels good, so I do it. I guess you get to work on both speed and endurance this way.

3. Double espresso. Especially if I'm feeling tired or unmotivated, a shot of caffeine can turn a slogging, annoying jog into a decent run. Also at times when I've been trying to push myself to new goals, this helps. (I read this in a newspaper's health section and I also read something in a Men's Health or somewhere about how a flat Coke is perfect for when you hit a wall on a long run.)

milk plasma (Jesse), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's good because it is a shot of sugar, so

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

^ yeah i've never understood this because sugary stuff when you're exercising is so gross, and causes cramps! whatever works.

anyway i've just gotten up to 6 miles (takes me an hour but oh well!) but i have trouble running during the week so i'm doing ok with long runs but not shorter, faster ones! fail.

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.doitsports.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0009w6

I read a magazine article posted in a coffee shop about how caffeine before running can be a good thing.

By the way, the reason I do double espresso instead of a coffee or soda is that it's more concentrated, not b/c I think it contains more caffeine. A minor peeve of mine is when people get all het up about espresso keeping you awake for days, etc.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

It's strangely ILX-ish over in that board.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

I forgot I started this thread.

Jesse, let's run today. We'll race.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

I won't run unless I can track it somehow. Currently I use the Garmin Forerunner 305, but I'm jealous of the smaller 405 these days.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Having said that, I haven't run since 1/4/09 when I ran 2 miles in 19:21. I was so dissapointed in myself I haven't done anything since then. Plus it's been too damn cold.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

I have only really done any serious running on the treadmill and I will not be racing you. I will run w/ you, though not today.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

OK, I ran. 2.35 miles in 22:21. It was pretty miserable. I think I need to go to an ENT before I do that again.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

I want to start running. I'm afraid I'll be one of those guys that gets a heart attack immediately. Oh well. Where to start? There's a gym down the block from me that's only $5 a day. Should I be intimidated by the 'gym people?' Just bought an iPod shuffle. There are lots of nice places to run outdoors here too. Is the 'runner's high' real? Help me get started!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 March 2009 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

i think the best thing is to just make a start. and don't feel bad if you go slow! i agree with that person up there that said just keep going as far as you can, even if it's just a shuffle.

I've heard this site/program is good for starting out: http://www.c25k.com/

behind the times (gem), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

No need to be intimidated by the gym people - they are just there doing their thing and you don't need to worry about being judged. If you're going to run on a treadmill (which I think is good to do sometimes to get realistic assessments of progress, as discussed above) getting an employee to show you how it works could set your mind at ease. They're pretty straightforward, but still.

Also what gem said - just do what you can to begin and if you keep it up, you will be fine. Following a program would be a great idea.

I don't know about runner's high - can anyone speak to that? I've heard that it's the rush of endorphins you get at some point during a hard run, but I don't know if I've ever experienced it.

milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

i did the couch to 5k--didnt get up to 5k but i was doing 2 miles in around 20-25 minutes when i stopped (which is a HUGE accomplishment for someone like me). i think its helpful for the kind of person (like me) who needs concrete goals, times, distances, etc. in order to feel and measure progress. without it i would end up spending a week just sort of running for half an hour at a time and abandoning it because there was no structure. once you complete the c25k you can just go out there and start doing 3 mile runs or whatever. i should take it up again really.

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't gotten it recently but i did sometimes get runners high when i was in better shape, like when i was 19. i think you would know if you got it though. it feels like you don't have to try and you could keep going forever, not like the struggle it normally feels like. cruisin'

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

I have gotten that sort of feeling. I just thought it was supposed to be some sort of euphoria. Maybe my standards for euphoria are too ambitious.

milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

lol people who tell u runners high is like ecstasy are people who have never done ecstasy--its more like "being in a good mood"

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i try to do btwn 3-5 miles every other day & basically track totals by month which helps a lot w/ the structure and measuring aspect

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

No runner's high for me. It is miserable every single step.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

Every winter gets me totally out of the routine and out of shape, but I'm getting started again since the time change, and since the sidewalks haven't been iced over for a couple of weeks. (I know some people get out of bed an hour earlier to go running in the cold just before sunrise, but...no, I run because I *like* it). Right now I'm only running about 3 miles a couple times a week, and I'd like to work up to more regularly running 5 miles again, hopefully approaching 10 in the summer.

I don't think I've experienced runner's high, which I've always thought is because I like to fall into a comfortable groove that I can keep up for a long time, instead of pushing myself so hard I break through some kind of crazy physical barrier...but if it's more "cruising" and less "euphoria", maybe I have!

Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:06 (eleven years ago) link

If what I've experienced is a runner's high, and if that experience is what others consider euphoria, then I pity those people.

milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:39 (eleven years ago) link

I ran 2 miles today in 18 minutes, which is Very Good.

milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno it's kind of like you feel a switch go off, i really think you would know

(lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

also do you guys run in the morning? i can't do it, i always feel so stiff and tired, and if i plan to wake up earlier to run i just end up going back to bed. i'd like to do it in the morning just to get it done but i'm wimpy.

(lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

I don't even go back to bed, I can't get out of it in the first place. I ran in the morning when I first started, but I didn't need to be at work very early then, so it was easier.

Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

Hunt3r I can't even tell you how much I love it. It has changed my life, and has improved my life in so many ways. As people here I think know, when the world is normal, I make my living on the road. Running every other day on the road has taken me from "crazy most of the time when I'm at work" to "as healthy as I've ever been mentally/emotionally while at work." It's just a fuckin miracle and I can't recommend it strongly enough. I did quit drinking beer though, my beer intake was not compatible with my goals and I have to be an all-or-nothing guy, I've had like three beers in the past two years which is the name of my new country song.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:11 (seven months ago) link

Fantastic!

Always good to see another convert.

And yeah, there's such a positive mental benefit to it as well as the obvious physical ones.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:43 (seven months ago) link

thanks for the personal boost, you do already get motivational plays in my runs already.

as far as your running, i always sorta wonder how y'all manage something like that, man. i cannot imagine that life in _many_ ways. i am really glad you've been able to find it and fit it. much respect.

i wonder if i should resolve to do a trail marathon this fall on a bc trail that i rode/hike-a-biked multiple times last year- it's incredible terrain. http://www.devilonthedivideultra.com/

it might be the only way to make me want to run, but i don't see that level of commitment happening. i'm not a fast rider, but i am just terrible at running relatively, and this affects my enthusiasm, though of course it should not. xp

blather rinse repeat 2020 (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:02 (seven months ago) link

i saw a guide somewhere say that for a consistent fitness level, each extra pound is about 3secs/mi. that seems about right to nerdy me, i'm about 15 lbs heavier than when i started running regularly, and my mile has declined about 35-45 secs at almost every exertion level.

blather rinse repeat 2020 (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:19 (seven months ago) link

said it on COVID-19 thread but wow does going out for even a 2-3 mile run reset my brain to normal after a day or two of staying quarantined inside.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:46 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

welp, I guess I'm one of those clowns who took up hobby jogging during the pandemic. I'd been walking a ton over the winter and had been hoping to do more hiking this spring and summer, but it seemed wiser to avoid crowded trails and start running on the road instead. I'm really not accustomed to mid/long distance running: I was a sprinter in high school and worked out on the treadmill on and off until about ten years ago, but I don't think I'd ever done an uninterrupted 5k in my life until this past April. the newbie gains have been pretty satisfying so far: when I was first starting out I could do a 5k in 25-26 minutes, but I've beaten my personal record every time I've gone for it, and I just managed a 19:55 5k this morning. I think a lot of that comes from figuring out how to pace myself rather than from any dramatic improvement in fitness, and I suspect that I'll find myself plateauing pretty quickly.

I'm really not sure what my goals are, since I'm obviously not going to be racing anytime soon. I basically just run at a moderate pace for 15-20 miles a week with an occasional fast 5k or 10k, and I don't follow a rigid workout plan. I'm still debating whether it's worthwhile at this point to increase my mileage and throw in a weekly speed/interval/fartlek workout (which is probably the only way to get my times down to a competitive range) or whether I should hold off until races resume in 2021 or 2025 or whenever. I messed up my knee pretty badly in high school, and while it hasn't been bothering me lately, I wouldn't want to risk a crippling overuse injury for no reason. plus I don't particularly enjoy sprinting. I'm finding it hard to get out of the mindset of obsessing over stats: charting my improvement is a pretty strong motivator at the moment, but I feel like I'd enjoy myself more in the long run if I could relax a bit more and appreciate running for its own sake rather than as a means to an end

panburger partner (unregistered), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:59 (three months ago) link

a sub-twenty-minute 5k is impressive!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:11 (three months ago) link

thanks!

panburger partner (unregistered), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:20 (three months ago) link

I'm doing a lot more road-and-pavement running these days to avoid crowded trails, and my body does not like it.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:29 (three months ago) link

I aim for 7.5-8km over 40m, 3 times a week, and I can't be arsed to think about anything else because meditative, borderline subliminal thoughtlessness is exactly what I want from running.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:30 (three months ago) link

sub 20 min 5k is solid running indeed! my main advice is try and listen to your body as best you can, build up slowly and don't be afraid to take a couple of days out of a training schedule, cos that's so much better than three weeks out because you've overcooked it. long-term consistency is the key

I'm finding it hard to get out of the mindset of obsessing over stats: charting my improvement is a pretty strong motivator at the moment, but I feel like I'd enjoy myself more in the long run if I could relax a bit more and appreciate running for its own sake rather than as a means to an end

you could mix your days up so you have one or two days a week where you focus on performance and see if you beat last weeks time or smash that set of intervals etc, but also have a couple of runs a week where you just bumble along enjoying yourself, chilling out, exploring, taking photos or whatever. run hard days hard, but easy days easy.

(btw i'm terrible at following this advice myself and am permanently on the cusp of falling apart)

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:40 (three months ago) link

I think I need to start from scratch again tbh

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:48 (three months ago) link

my main advice is try and listen to your body as best you can, build up slowly and don't be afraid to take a couple of days out of a training schedule, cos that's so much better than three weeks out because you've overcooked it. long-term consistency is the key

you could mix your days up so you have one or two days a week where you focus on performance and see if you beat last weeks time or smash that set of intervals etc, but also have a couple of runs a week where you just bumble along enjoying yourself, chilling out, exploring, taking photos or whatever. run hard days hard, but easy days easy.

thanks, that seems like sound advice, and it's in line with most of the recommendations I've read online. lately I think I've been taking my "easy" runs too quickly (roughly 1 to 1.5 minutes per mile slower than my race pace) because I don't get much sense of accomplishment at a more leisurely pace. but I think if I cautiously add a long run and a bit of interval training to my week, I'll feel more comfortable slowing down on my easy days. I feel like it would also help to leave my Fitbit at home during those easy days so I won't feel like I'm underperforming if I fall short of some arbitrary milestone. I like to know exactly how far I'll be running before I begin a workout, but that kinda limits my ability to casually wander around, take walking breaks, cut through the woods, and overall enjoy myself more without that constant pressure to perform (which I guess was ingrained in me during my track days)

I just don't want to rush into a more demanding schedule until I'm sure I can handle it. so far I've very little to complain about physically beyond occasional stomach pain and slightly sore/tight calves, so I'd like to keep it that way if possible, or at least find a middle ground between maximixing my potential and minimizing my injury risk. I'm pretty good at taking rest days after hard workouts, and right now I'm really only doing 4-5 days of running per week

panburger partner (unregistered), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:06 (three months ago) link

* had very little to complain about

panburger partner (unregistered), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:08 (three months ago) link

anyone have a good rec for a mask that works well for running in the summer heat?

tobo73, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:56 (three months ago) link

i tried jogging with a mask and almost passed out; I'm going without and staying as far away from people as i can.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:02 (three months ago) link

wouldn't much fancy running in a mask but maybe look at ones designed for cyclists?

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:47 (three months ago) link

> I think I need to start from scratch again tbh

I was never anything like the level of the rest of the people here but after 3 months of sitting on the sofa eating biscuits I started again and even a month in I'm having to break a run half as long as I used to do into 4 with a minute's walking to catch my breath between each bit.

Still doesn't really feel safe out there (which is the reason I stopped) - bits of the park get congested even at 07:30.

koogs, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:29 (three months ago) link

yeah they make sports masks, i know people who run in them all the time esp if they live in a air polluted area.

Yerac, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:32 (three months ago) link

Shin bones feel it after each jog as well, which is probably a result of the biscuits.

But I realise neither thing is going to improve unless I continue.

koogs, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:33 (three months ago) link

Yeah, just keep going koogs and it will get easier

chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, 16 July 2020 06:25 (three months ago) link

Shin bones feel it after each jog as well, which is probably a result of the biscuits.

try taking the biscuits out of your shoes before you go for a jog.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 July 2020 06:32 (three months ago) link

Yeah, they've put the Olympics back a year so I'm not in any rush...

koogs, Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:35 (three months ago) link

take the golden biscuit

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 16 July 2020 22:26 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Another half dozen jogs later (and a week lost because of sciatica) and still nothing has improved. But I can do this every day and that'll count for something - quantity over quality.

koogs, Monday, 3 August 2020 22:30 (two months ago) link

If you're doing it every day, even if your times don't improve you'll definitely be fitter and healthier than you were

chonky floof (groovypanda), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 07:32 (two months ago) link

if this morning was anything to go by, i can't do it every day. 8(

koogs, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 09:54 (two months ago) link

Koogs if you really are starting without any foundation of running I’d suggest just going every 2 or 3 days and mixing in some walking time with the running time. Take it easy! (The Olympics can wait). Especially if you are feeling pain so regularly.

tobo73, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 10:47 (two months ago) link

(i did c25k about 4 years ago (tripped and broke a rib in week 9...). then got a new job and couldn't find the time for 18 months but got back into it easter last year (with no problems, took about 3 weeks to get back to previous levels, 120 jogs for the year) this is an attempt to start again, post-apocalypse, after 3 months of sitting on the sofa eating biscuits)

koogs, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:01 (two months ago) link

and yeah, it will be more like 3 or 4 times a week if only because i have to go shopping sometime. this morning was an experiment, 3rd day in a row, and it was just a bridge too far.

/me eyes up commonwealth games...

koogs, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:04 (two months ago) link

remember... recovery is as important as exercise, you could say its the point of exercise

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:59 (two months ago) link

also: dont worry about getting faster worry about getting better form

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 14:01 (two months ago) link

these are my tips --coach

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 14:01 (two months ago) link

got back on the horse a couple months ago and slowly but steadily rebuilding. being able to go to a mostly-empty office with a shower and a running/walking trail directly behind it has been a fucking godsend. decided to see how far I could jog now with no walking breaks - 1.93 miles, it turns out. not great but a fuck of a lot better than when I started up again.

also running in the noon heat sucks/rules, what a fuckin battering that is

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 17:53 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Been jogging (calling it running is generous) every other day for the past 2 weeks. I’m asthmatic so there’s a lot of walking mixed in but I think it’s doing me good. What little exercise I’d normally get is gone due to working from home so I needed something. Definitely helping with my mood, which is a big deal because I have some mental health issues. I think I’m making progress each time I go out. This thread encouraged me!

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 14:33 (two months ago) link

Awesome. Running definitely good for mental health

chonky floof (groovypanda), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 18:05 (two months ago) link

not this morning in the miserable pissy rain it wasn't... 8)

29th jog around the park this morning (4 times a week), still have to break it in two for want of breath whereas i was doing two laps and the half mile there and back before lockdown. Paris 2024!

koogs, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:12 (two months ago) link

keep that dream alive koogs!

Defund the indefensible (NickB), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:28 (two months ago) link

there’s a lot of walking mixed in but I think it’s doing me good.

― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Tuesday, August 25, 2020 10:33 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yeah just get out there and move the body

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 14:46 (two months ago) link

made it around the park section in one go this morning (and sunday). (but to put this in perspective, that only means 8 minutes at once, rather than 2 x 4 minutes. i did say it was small beans)

something still feels wrong though, like i'm generally slightly wheezy.

koogs, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:30 (two months ago) link

back up to an unbroken 5k jog. ow.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:31 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Never underestimate the power of new shoes and cross training. After a couple weeks of doing dumbbell routines every other day, and finally feeling up to spending enough time in a shoe store to get a new pair, I went from 3 miles to over 6 in a single unbroken jog - and honestly I could have done more, but I didn't want to get cocky. Honestly it was revelatory. (It also probably helps that I have almost certainly been losing weight, though I don't weigh myself so I can't prove it.)

Simon H., Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:25 (one month ago) link

Good stuff Simon! I should get back into using my weights too but even looking at them makes me feel weak and weary

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:28 (one month ago) link

It's tough to get started for sure. I've done my best to embrace the idea that I am never going to work out anywhere but at home. I am however extremely glad I used a health stipend at my last job to buy a set of adjustable dumbbells...honestly one of my best-ever purchases.

Simon H., Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:35 (one month ago) link

Yeah they're great when you get into them, but I haven't touched mine in about 8 months so I'll be starting from scratch again. That feeling of being the weakest person on the planet! The aching shoulders! Oh the joys! :)

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:40 (one month ago) link

Nice one Simon

New shoes do make a huge difference - most of my race PBs have come with shoes with only a few miles on them before hand

groovypanda, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:55 (one month ago) link

I will say it was deeply nerve-wracking to spend more than 5 minutes in a store talking to a person despite everyone being masked up. That was a first from since COVID kicked off.

Simon H., Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:16 (one month ago) link

set a new 5K PR this morning: I ran it in 19:02, compared to 19:26 for my previous time trial back in August. my goal was to break the 19-minute barrier, but I'm not exactly surprised that I performed more poorly than I'd hoped: I just ran 9 miles and hiked 2 miles yesterday afternoon, and it would have been wise to recover for at least another day before going for a new PR. also I think my starting pace was too quick: my plan was to to pick up the pace for the last 3 or 4 minutes, but by that point I just didn't have the energy, and the last quarter of my run ended up being about 16 seconds slower than the first. my legs didn't feel sore or weak at any point during the run, so I guess the main limiting factors were my cardiovascular fitness and my level of rest. It shouldn't be too difficult to shave a few seconds off my time if I try again in another week or two under optimal conditions.

I've settled into a more structured workout routine now that the weather's gotten cooler. typically I'll run 27 miles per week with one longish run (8-9 miles) and one interval workout (I've worked my way up to 6 X 3:00 intervals at roughly an 18:30 per 5K pace). my goal is to bring my 5K time down to 18:30 or less (or at least 18:45) by the end of the season, but I'm not sure how realistic that is. I'd probably progress more quickly if I upped my mileage and added another day of speedwork, but I'm concerned that I'll injure myself if I take it too fast, or else I'll lose interest in running as it becomes too much of a chore. for now I intend to keep up my current routine (maybe adding a couple more reps to my interval workout) and see how long I continue to progress.

has anyone here entered any virtual races lately? for most people I guess that's the only opportunity to compete in the foreseeable future, but to me it seems like a poor substitute for an actual in-person race, and I personally can't see myself running significantly faster during a virtual race than I would during a solo training session. but ymmv (literally!)

(peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 17:02 (three weeks ago) link

You'll smash sub 19 soon by the sounds of it.

Was supposed to be doing my first race in almost a year last Sunday (a staggered start chip timed one) but didn't feel comfortable driving 30 odd miles in a pandemic just to run a 5 mile race

Joined a running club a few weeks ago and a few from the club did the VLM, so lots of us ran various bits of it with them in support which was great fun despite the awful weather

groovypanda, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 17:09 (three weeks ago) link

Ive been running about a mile a day during lunch for the last two months. Can’t say it’s gotten much easier but it’s kind of all I can stand. Don’t enjoy it much, just doing it for the cardio and to get some fresh air.

calstars, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:57 (three weeks ago) link


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