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I couldn't find the old thread where we were talking about this, so here's a new one.

First of all Sanoodi is awesome. Much better than Google Maps Pedometer for keeping track of your runs. Here is my run from this past weekend, the longest distance I have run in my adult life. Yeah, I was going slow and basically shuffling my feet for 8 miles, but it felt great.

Jeff, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

After years of mocking, I've suddenly got into running (mostly because I can do at 2am after work when everything else is shut). I haven't bought any fancy tech yet, because I know that way lies importing specialist kecks from Japan that reduce drag coef by 0.002 somethings, but could definitely do with some proper shoes.

stet, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I wish to talk about running.

I can run 5.5 miles now (52 min.), which is truly astounding to me b/c there was a time not too long ago when I could not run a single mile.

So - what is your time? How far? Where? Etc.

differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

i am trying to go farther b/c i'm doing a half marathon in may but i have a weird thing where i'm afraid to go far away from my house because what if i break my ankle and have to limp 5 miles back or something? so i go in loops a lot. also i hate running when it's light out. wtf is wrong with me?

я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've thought about running farther out than I can run back. Do you live somewhere w/ public transit? If not, I'd advise that maybe you bring cab fare or your phone so you can call a friend. I've been running on a treadmill, so this hasn't been a problem. When spring comes I'll take it outside.

I don't know about running when it's light out! What is it that bothers you about it?

differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

i dunno, people looking at me and stuff. and you can see how far away stuff is so it makes it feel like more effort. running is such a mental thing, i can't even make myself do it sometimes because i'm remembering that last time was hard, even though it was also fun.

we have public transit, i could do that

я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Did my first run across the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday -- lots of fun. Total run was something like 3.2 miles.

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Started running again for the second time in my life ever. Gave it up after my first 10k, found it too boring. Gearing up for a more manageable 5k in june sometime, hoping to break 20mins.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

am ratcheting up my irregular runs into regular ones - dunno how far it is but i usually run along the dalston canal from queensbridge rd to victoria park (approach rd) and back again - cracked some sort of barrier this week when i managed to do it all in one go, rather than stopping to die halfway through.

running tips would be appreciated, actually - basic stuff like pacing, breathing correctly, anything which makes it all more effective which a novice might not be aware of. i am so unbelievably shit at pacing myself.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Am an amateur myself but "go slower" sounds like it might be good advice. When I first started I was almost sprinting, could barely do 100m let alone 10k. Then I figured out that maybe I should take it down a notch. Think jogging not running.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Some friends I run with barely go above walking pace...

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Key is not stopping: I'm not sure how far you go, but better to go from 30 mins at whatever slowish pace feels comfortable, then 40, then 50 etc...Eventually speed will follow, but until you learn to breathe evenly (ie maintaining a steady pace), it's hard to relax and enjoy it.

I run every other day, normally 3 laps of Prospect Park, which takes 80-90 mins, and is about...11 miles? I used to run the Brooklyn bridge and round seaport, battery, and up the west side highway - there are some good routes around there.

paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

i guess it's better to run further/for a longer time and slower than to push yourself wrt speed but only manage to run for half an hour, then?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:48 (eight years ago) Permalink


paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

stopping is ok if you plan to start up again though--if you break up an hour run into 15-20 min segments walking a couple minutes in between it can be good for your endurance

i want to start going a little faster soon, my "short" run now is 3.5-4 miles but i think i want to add a day per week of intervals or pyramids? suggestions? i run no faster on short runs than on long runs, which is wrong.

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

A couple things I find helpful when I run

1. Try to be in your head and chest instead of in your legs, if that makes sense. Like focus on your upper body moving forward and not your stride (though you should check your stride from time to time)

2. Keep your torso/shoulders somewhat moving and loose -- this might just be personal because I have a shoulder/back problem that tends to cramp up when I run

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

no 2 makes sense - last week it suddenly hit me that my shoulders were SO TENSE when i was running - consciously trying to relax them seemed to make everything a bit easier

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Anyone have advice for avoiding shin splints? During the winter I run on treadmills and don't have a problem. But I like to run on the street when it gets warmer, and it's not long before my shins start to hurt. Shoes are obviously the main factor. Last year I bought a new pair of shoes that weren't quite wide enough and they murdered my feet and shins. Now I have a pair that fits right, but I still find that I get some mild pain in my shins after running outside. I stretch for quite a while before I run, although I often run first thing in the morning and I feel like my whole body is a lot stiffer than it would be later in the day. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

lou, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

i guess it's better to run further/for a longer time and slower than to push yourself wrt speed but only manage to run for half an hour, then?

haha, i consider half an hour to be pretty good. i usually get bored around then.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

what i post about when i post about running

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Today: 5k in an exhausting 27 mins.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm starting this tomorrow, i've made a couple false starts the last few months but time to be less slothful

velko, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hmm, the splints. I've never stretched, and never had too many problems (sometimes heels though). I also feel less limber in the morning. Main thing, I think, is shoes. It's worth paying more ($150/year for exercise is cheap!) to go to a proper place that will analyze your running style on a treadmill, make the right suggestion (ie avoid going to a shitty chain store). Also, if you're used to treadmill / soft surfaces, the road takes a little while to adjust to - your shins are working slightly differently and complaining cos they're not used to it. So make that move slowly, if possible (a park with a dirt track?). Also, when they hurt, stop. It's no good trying to run through it, which can work with other kinds of running pain.

paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, harbls right about stopping if you feel like it - between each 30 min lap of the park, I often stop for a minute or two to drink water, or tighten laces, or just calm down a bit...I meant more that it's better to maintain a steady pace than to run fast for 6 minutes then stop, winded, for a few more, then gallop off again.

paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

I get shin splints sometimes, but I can't really find a correlation between what I'm doing and the pain. A friend (Jeff, who started this thread) recommended that I get a gait test done at a one of these places

I've read that if your calves get overly strong compared to your shins, that your shins suffer.

W/r/t words of wisdom, I'll just tell you things I have done (I'm at around 6 miles max and usually 10 mpm). 1. Measure distance and time. Being on a treadmill really helped me with this. Or you can use to measure your distance.

In any case, knowing the distance you run and the time you spent was invaluable for me b/c it helped me to quantify my accomplishments, not to cheat, and to set new goals.

2. I vary my speeds and distances. I read stuff about why doing this is good, and it seems to make sense and it feels good, so I do it. I guess you get to work on both speed and endurance this way.

3. Double espresso. Especially if I'm feeling tired or unmotivated, a shot of caffeine can turn a slogging, annoying jog into a decent run. Also at times when I've been trying to push myself to new goals, this helps. (I read this in a newspaper's health section and I also read something in a Men's Health or somewhere about how a flat Coke is perfect for when you hit a wall on a long run.)

milk plasma (Jesse), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's good because it is a shot of sugar, so

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ yeah i've never understood this because sugary stuff when you're exercising is so gross, and causes cramps! whatever works.

anyway i've just gotten up to 6 miles (takes me an hour but oh well!) but i have trouble running during the week so i'm doing ok with long runs but not shorter, faster ones! fail.

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I read a magazine article posted in a coffee shop about how caffeine before running can be a good thing.

By the way, the reason I do double espresso instead of a coffee or soda is that it's more concentrated, not b/c I think it contains more caffeine. A minor peeve of mine is when people get all het up about espresso keeping you awake for days, etc.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's strangely ILX-ish over in that board.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 16:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

I forgot I started this thread.

Jesse, let's run today. We'll race.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I won't run unless I can track it somehow. Currently I use the Garmin Forerunner 305, but I'm jealous of the smaller 405 these days.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Having said that, I haven't run since 1/4/09 when I ran 2 miles in 19:21. I was so dissapointed in myself I haven't done anything since then. Plus it's been too damn cold.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have only really done any serious running on the treadmill and I will not be racing you. I will run w/ you, though not today.

milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

OK, I ran. 2.35 miles in 22:21. It was pretty miserable. I think I need to go to an ENT before I do that again.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

I want to start running. I'm afraid I'll be one of those guys that gets a heart attack immediately. Oh well. Where to start? There's a gym down the block from me that's only $5 a day. Should I be intimidated by the 'gym people?' Just bought an iPod shuffle. There are lots of nice places to run outdoors here too. Is the 'runner's high' real? Help me get started!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 March 2009 09:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think the best thing is to just make a start. and don't feel bad if you go slow! i agree with that person up there that said just keep going as far as you can, even if it's just a shuffle.

I've heard this site/program is good for starting out:

behind the times (gem), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

No need to be intimidated by the gym people - they are just there doing their thing and you don't need to worry about being judged. If you're going to run on a treadmill (which I think is good to do sometimes to get realistic assessments of progress, as discussed above) getting an employee to show you how it works could set your mind at ease. They're pretty straightforward, but still.

Also what gem said - just do what you can to begin and if you keep it up, you will be fine. Following a program would be a great idea.

I don't know about runner's high - can anyone speak to that? I've heard that it's the rush of endorphins you get at some point during a hard run, but I don't know if I've ever experienced it.

milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

i did the couch to 5k--didnt get up to 5k but i was doing 2 miles in around 20-25 minutes when i stopped (which is a HUGE accomplishment for someone like me). i think its helpful for the kind of person (like me) who needs concrete goals, times, distances, etc. in order to feel and measure progress. without it i would end up spending a week just sort of running for half an hour at a time and abandoning it because there was no structure. once you complete the c25k you can just go out there and start doing 3 mile runs or whatever. i should take it up again really.

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

i haven't gotten it recently but i did sometimes get runners high when i was in better shape, like when i was 19. i think you would know if you got it though. it feels like you don't have to try and you could keep going forever, not like the struggle it normally feels like. cruisin'

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have gotten that sort of feeling. I just thought it was supposed to be some sort of euphoria. Maybe my standards for euphoria are too ambitious.

milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol people who tell u runners high is like ecstasy are people who have never done ecstasy--its more like "being in a good mood"

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:37 (eight years ago) Permalink


HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

i try to do btwn 3-5 miles every other day & basically track totals by month which helps a lot w/ the structure and measuring aspect

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

No runner's high for me. It is miserable every single step.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Every winter gets me totally out of the routine and out of shape, but I'm getting started again since the time change, and since the sidewalks haven't been iced over for a couple of weeks. (I know some people get out of bed an hour earlier to go running in the cold just before sunrise,, I run because I *like* it). Right now I'm only running about 3 miles a couple times a week, and I'd like to work up to more regularly running 5 miles again, hopefully approaching 10 in the summer.

I don't think I've experienced runner's high, which I've always thought is because I like to fall into a comfortable groove that I can keep up for a long time, instead of pushing myself so hard I break through some kind of crazy physical barrier...but if it's more "cruising" and less "euphoria", maybe I have!

Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

If what I've experienced is a runner's high, and if that experience is what others consider euphoria, then I pity those people.

milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

I ran 2 miles today in 18 minutes, which is Very Good.

milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

i dunno it's kind of like you feel a switch go off, i really think you would know

(lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

also do you guys run in the morning? i can't do it, i always feel so stiff and tired, and if i plan to wake up earlier to run i just end up going back to bed. i'd like to do it in the morning just to get it done but i'm wimpy.

(lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't even go back to bed, I can't get out of it in the first place. I ran in the morning when I first started, but I didn't need to be at work very early then, so it was easier.

Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I am amaaaazed. So big I didn't know that could be a... thing. Field size seems so big for something that loco. Wow. Congrats and nicely done.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Sunday, 2 July 2017 23:16 (six months ago) Permalink

That is amazing! I cannot comprehend running for 60 hours.

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Sunday, 2 July 2017 23:36 (six months ago) Permalink

that sounds amazing! well, except for the mugging part. but congrats.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 3 July 2017 00:25 (six months ago) Permalink

Hey, this thread just had it's 10 year anniversary. Good job me for sticking with it. Good job everyone.

Jeff, Monday, 3 July 2017 11:54 (six months ago) Permalink

My running: Fully back from my stress fracture that crushed my marathon dreams last year. Got a new coach at the beginning of the year and I've PR'ed twice, in the 8K (34:08) and half marathon (1:35:43). Working towards the Milwaukee Lakefront Marathon in October. Hopefully chopping off some time and put myself in a good position to BQ when I'm 40 in a couple of years.

Jeff, Monday, 3 July 2017 11:57 (six months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Aiming to do ten miles at sub-ten minutes per on my birthday as a sign marker for the future. Up to about 8 before I give out and a week to go. Hope I can make it.

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:01 (five months ago) Permalink

nice! though I initially read that as just trying to run ten miles in under ten minutes which would truly be a feat

I've lost my will to run since I got an office job :/

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:03 (five months ago) Permalink

It's sorta amazing and sad how much slower I'm getting on the run as I increase the duration and intensity of my cycling volume (while not changing my running at all- same exact minimal running scheme, 3 mi 2x/week). Hoping if I return to lower overall volume I'll be back to my usual pacing.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:37 (five months ago) Permalink

ten and a half in under 99 minutes. i think i'm gonna go for a half marathon but maybe not on my birthday. generally when it gets to feeling this good, this is when i get an injury... i have forty miles for the week and that's definitely the most I've ever logged so it's probably time to be careful.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 30 July 2017 21:53 (five months ago) Permalink

half marathon is the perfect distance tbh, marathons are dumb and bad (I say this having done two of em)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 30 July 2017 22:07 (five months ago) Permalink

Explain why? Though i imagine i can guess?

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 30 July 2017 22:53 (five months ago) Permalink

so much training, so much pain, bad for yr knees apparently

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 30 July 2017 23:24 (five months ago) Permalink

but some people enjoy it for the extra runners high or w/ever (a thing I have still never experienced)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 30 July 2017 23:25 (five months ago) Permalink

Marathons are the best distance. Halfs are hell.

Jeff, Sunday, 30 July 2017 23:57 (five months ago) Permalink

see that argument I need explained to me

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:15 (five months ago) Permalink

Halfs = A 10 mile tempo run plus a 5K race
Full = Conserving my energy for 20 miles then a 10K race.

The former is much more unpleasant for me. Too close to the redline for too long. Fulls have their own drawbacks, of course, but I much prefer them over halfs.

Jeff, Monday, 31 July 2017 09:30 (five months ago) Permalink

a marathon is the best preparation fo a half-marathon. when i ran my last marathon in 1990, a couple of weeks later i did a half-marathon. it was so easy. my best time ever: 1h25 for 21 km.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 31 July 2017 09:48 (five months ago) Permalink

aaaaaaand i fucked up my ankle a bit. Back to three mile jogs for me for a few weeks i guess

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:41 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Aaaaaaand now runners knee. I gotta pace increasing my mileage more intelligently; my lungs and heart can take more but my joints get pissed.

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 26 August 2017 03:14 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

been getting back into it hehe

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 16:21 (two months ago) Permalink


how's it going lag@@n?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I have another stress fracture lolsob. Second one in two years. In a boot now.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:48 (two months ago) Permalink

aw shit no! same bones? any idea what's causing that?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Heel was last year, left leg. Tibia this year, right leg. Don’t know the ultimate cause yet. I was MUCH more conservative this year with my mileage and intensity. It was a very surprising diagnosis, that was initially thought to be a calf strain. I went through two months of PT before we realized that it was not getting better at all, MRI revealed the fracture.

I’ve upped my calcium and will probably end up getting a bone density scan. Not sure what else to do beyond that. I’ve got a few more weeks in the boot and then no load bearing exercises for 6 weeks. Then I’ll start run walking and building my way back up to whatever I fracture next year!

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:13 (two months ago) Permalink

damn dude. wishing a speedy recovery and working solution to issue. we keep orthos busy at ilx.

for the last while (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 21:10 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, mend soon jeff. maybe it’s time to start moving more towards trail races?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 21:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I live in a city! Not many trails around here that I can get too. Ultimately if it doesn’t work out next year, time to explore other hobbies.

Jeff, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 21:57 (two months ago) Permalink

ah yes, good point! um, more treadmill time maybe, at least for your more intense sessions?

the only other thing i can suggest is looking at your running technique. moving from being a heel-smasher to trying to run as lightly as possible on my forefoot made a massive difference to me. used to get a lot of knee and shin problems, but since i switched about 4-5 years ago i haven’t really had any significant injuries, at least nothing that’s stopped me running. that might not help with stress fractures though, and obv i don’t know what kind of technique you have either

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 22:18 (two months ago) Permalink

i went running this morning :)

but then i had ~GI problems~ and had to walk it back in the whole time praying i wasnt gonna have uh a problem

gbx, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 23:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Larfed grimly at *running* cause yeah man I know that sadly

for the last while (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Now the nights are drawing in here in the UK, how do ilxors cope with running at night?

Not a huge amount of streetlighting around by me and some of the paths underfoot are strewn with fallen branches/leaves at the moment so not sure I'd feel confident running in the dark.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 14:54 (two months ago) Permalink

i see people headlamp running sometimes which is undeniably dorky but gets the jog done i guess?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:11 (two months ago) Permalink

I almost always wear blinky lights and a reflective vest. I have a head lamp but I typically don’t have an issue with seeing where I’m going. I’m more concerned about getting hit by cars or bikers.

Jeff, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:14 (two months ago) Permalink

I only run at night! Here in Texas it's just too damn hot to run before the sun sets, and I hate getting up early so I never go in the morning. Are you running in roads or on trails? The extent of my night safety precautions are wearing a white shirt.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:33 (two months ago) Permalink

i run on paths and very quiet streets before dawn, and i use a petzel or bd lightweight double-led headlamp. if i was on many roads i'd maybe wear a reflective vest, but i'm not. my vests and windbreakers have a little reflectivity built in.

for the last while (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:40 (two months ago) Permalink

One risk of running around twilight is that critters are very active... I've come very close to tripping on possums and raccoons streaking across the trail.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

if i'm running somewhere that's not lit i use one of these:

takes AAA batteries, has a decent run time and it's plenty bright enough for off-road (i use it running home through the woods every night). they can feel a little bit uncomfortable at first, but i've obviously killed off all the nerve cells in my head cos it doesn't bother me at all now.

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:59 (two months ago) Permalink

a decent handtorch would also be fine though if you don't want to look as dorky as me. even some of the little ones are really bright now

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 16:01 (two months ago) Permalink

headlamps, esp lil LED guys are just so handy to have. worth having one in the glovebox imo

gbx, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

handhelds are a plus because unlike the headlamps, they don't blind oncoming traffic on the trails

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

the other drawback with headtorches is that if it's foggy, or if it's cold enough for you to see your breath, the torch will just illuminate the mist directly in front of your face and you won't be able to see the trail at all. but you can just remove it a carry it in your hand instead of course

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:28 (two months ago) Permalink

The headlamps are usually quite directable to the ground ime, and encounters with runners and walkers is usually really good.

The only blinding-level people I encounter are always bikes with 600-1500+ lumen abominations (they do have good uses elsewhere). My opinion there is - if u can’t make it with 200-300 lumens on a reasonable road/bikepath, you’re either going 30 mph or need your eyes checked.

for the last while (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:32 (two months ago) Permalink

What is fog?

for the last while (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:33 (two months ago) Permalink

if the trail isn't level, all front-facing lamps are going to end up blinding traffic coming in your direction... a good reason not to stress too much about angling them properly, you can't win. the ones with their lamps set to strobe are the only ones who really irritate me. love those lamps with the gentle pulse setting where the lamp fades in and out.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Doing night rides with other people, it’s kind of an arms race. Doesn’t matter how bright your lights are, if you have someone behind you with more lumens, you feel like you can’t see shit in front of you because of the shadow

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:46 (two months ago) Permalink


plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:46 (two months ago) Permalink

I just get a fix on the next stretch of trail and keep going with my eyes closed until the bright lamps pass by, it's kinda fun

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:49 (two months ago) Permalink

i run w a headlamp in the dark sometimes, an adventure

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2017 22:01 (two months ago) Permalink

just went for an 8-mile night run :) nearly a full moon though, so plenty of light really

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 4 November 2017 02:50 (two months ago) Permalink

love it

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:34 (two months ago) Permalink

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