Clausewitz

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Classic or Dud , i think he makes alot of sense and stuff

anthony, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never read him... I get the impression he is one of those great thinkers of history that no one ever reads. Does his stuff suffer from the fact that he is basically writing about the Napoleonic Wars, and the way wars are fought and the way we think of war has changed so much since then?

DV, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

He is a hardcore realist who is less obsessed about the decalrtion of states and more concerned with whys .

anthony, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If I read Clausewitz, would I learn everything I need to recruit a small band of fighters and lead them to GLOBAL DOMINATION?

DV, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yes

anthony, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

so go read

Stuart, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Clausewitz is a weird lil dude who dresses in a costume of a reindeer and trick or treat dandyly in his pants on a x-mas afternoon

beevis marshall, Thursday, 11 December 2003 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i read a bunch for the vollmann project actually.

his later stuff in the book on actual tactics is a bit dated, but the stuff about morale, strategy, how to define war aims, etc. holds up really well and has much wider implications in terms of setting a stage for political theory.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 December 2003 03:40 (seventeen years ago) link

my otherwise quite new age-y, yoga-teaching friend T recommended Sun Tzu's Art of War to me (Debord liked it also) (haha if two ppl were ever less like each other it's Guy and T!)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 11 December 2003 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I gather Sun Tzu is full of useful tips like "Make sure to have an army much bigger than your opponent - then he will surrender without fighting" or "The hawk is fast, but the rabbit can hide."

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 11 December 2003 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
bullshit.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Clausewitz is one of those folks who, like Machiavelli, collects and defines basic political principles in language general enough to survive across more than one century, yet specific enough to be usefully applied by decision makers to contemporary situations. IOW, he is urgent and key to understanding how war arises and how it proceeds.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 25 September 2006 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

is the howard / paret trans. from princeton UP still the best way to go ?

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 03:03 (one week ago) link


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