Just got the trilogy out the library. I was a bit too young to appreciate how awesome this show was at the time but I saw the first episode and it's brilliant! Like the Sopranos but set in Thatcherite Parliament. Awesome!
― the next grozart, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link
You might say that. I could not possibly comment.
― Michael White, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link
no love for this... :-(
― the next grozart, Saturday, 9 June 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link
My parents loved it.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 June 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link
this is freaking phenomenal. how could i have been unaware of the existence of ian richardson for my entire life???
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
So good. Everyone should watch it.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I think To Play the King is my favourite of the trilogy.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Remembered watching when I was quite young and loving it, but heaps must have gone over my head. Have just been given the complete DVD set. Will enjoy!
X-post: Yeah, the whole destroy Prince Charles thing done very well!
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
The Sopranos comparison at the top of the thread is apt in that you objectively find the protagonist repugnant on every level, but can't help but root for him.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
it's because ian richardson is quite possibly the most charming actor who ever lived.
he is just impeccable in this. so precise. so sure of himself. so vain.
there's a scene in the third episode, about 4 or 5 minutes in, when the PM has just announced his resignation. richardson comes into the MPs' washroom - where we/the camera are - and talks to us about it, his voice simply dripping with disdain for the PM.
i've watched this short scene about 5 or 6 times now. throughout his speech he is doing what you do in a washroom, down to the last detail. he takes off his jacket and hangs it on the door. he uses the urinal. still talking to us, of course, looking right in the camera. he goes to the sink, removes his ring, soaps up his hands, still talking. rinses them, shakes them violently a few times, dries them, heads back for the door, takes his coat, puts it on.. and with each of these small bits of business, linked seamlessly and naturally together, he emphasizes what he's saying. he uses all of it as punctuation to his speech.
apparently he modelled francis on richard III (francis even quotes from that play in one scene with his wife). i wish i could have seen him on stage.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link
The scene in question:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylu3x72WHTs
"An admirable trait in a spaniel... Or a whore... But not, I think, in a Prime Minister."
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I always feel oddly flattered when he addresses the camera, the audience is the only entity he treats as an equal apart from his wife.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
LOVE this series
i have been on a bbc tear lately. this and edge of darkness are top-notch, i am reevaluating my opinion of british culture.
― max, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
also cant stop irritating my coworkers by saying "YOU might think that... I couldnt possibly comment"
― max, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^as you are working in PR you may find that a useful sentence from time to time. Your coworkers will stop wanting to kill you the first time you use it on a hostile journalist.
I love this series - self and boyfriend at the time watched it when it first aired, riveted to the sofa.
― gnothi sautée (suzy), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
apparently he modelled francis on richard III
I think I read that Richardson wouldn't come back for the third series unless something unseemly befell FU since he felt he'd made him entirely too seductive a vilain.
― Mit der Kattzheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this was definitely an EEP moment
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
have you seen tinker, tailor, soldier, spy?
― conrad, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
nope but i want to
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 30 January 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Love the way this ended, by the way (Part I that is)
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 30 January 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
My memories were that I liked it at the beginning but I got more resistant to his Shakesperian mask...the catchphrase wore itself out amidst those ever so ridiculous plots.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 January 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought the 3rd one was a bit disappointing, except his wife really came into her own in it.
― sarahel, Saturday, 30 January 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I liked her more actually.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 January 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
The third is the weakest, but it's still good. Geoffrey Boozer-Pitt is an excellent character.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
man i've GOT to see this show, i must have missed it when it was on the bbc first time round. i recall the hype dimly. god knows what i was doing instead at the time.was it 3 self contained series? is he the same 'rank'/ title in all 3?
― piscesx, Sunday, 31 January 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw the first series and liked it a lot - it was on at exactly the same time as Thatcher's downfall, wasn't it? I've never seen the second or third ones.
― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 31 January 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
was it 3 self contained series? is he the same 'rank'/ title in all 3?
They're all pretty much self-contained, but there are threads running through all three. Each series is four hour-long episodes. He's Chief Whip in the first, and PM in the second two.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Sunday, 31 January 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
watchin this again! :-)
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey, they're on netflix! This looks good!
― Dan I., Monday, 1 November 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link
If he's Richard III then his wife is Lady Macbeth
― A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
god the irish bloke in this...prob the worst paddy stereotype i've ever seen in a drama, not least cos it appears to be a genuine attempt at crafting a character. also...tories in the 80s, would they REALLY have an Irish press officer? like how many years after hunger strikes and shit? can't believe they'd want an Irish guy or an Irish person would want to work for them.
his name is Roger O'Neill and they mention him playing rugby a lot so is he meant to be protestant or something? V confused as a character, or second gen Irish?
this show is good but it's imperfect imo, some of the "sardonic asides" are a bit too comfortable/cosy.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 7 November 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
so apparently kevin spacey and david fincher are remaking this... for netflix?
― max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
i actually think spacey could do pretty well, hes got that kind of menacing camp thing going on
― max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
for ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
― three megabytes of hot RAM (abanana), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
this is interesting news
could be awesome
'apparently aaron sorkin is scripting an ed gein biopic' - an entertainment news blog
― suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:14 (twelve years ago) link
No, terrible idea.
― Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
the original is good -- ian richardson kills it obvi -- but it's not like it couldn't be done again well. plus that was a four-parter, this is already 26 episodes, so it's not going to be the same.
― suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
aw this is gonna be 26 episodes? was hoping for a 12-episode hbo-style series
― max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
they've ordered 2x series of 13 eps, which is bold
― suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
2 arcs over 13 episodes each better than 1 over 16, i think
― max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
26, rather. esp with a show like this.
yeah. the really long 23-ep thing... <3 'the west wing' but in general 23 eps is too much for full-length shows. though im loving the hell out of the_killing.
― suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
It doesn't matter if it's not as good as UK series, cuz only US politics/BBC nerds hv seen Richardson version.
― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 March 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
will be interested in this version if villain is a Democrat btw
― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 March 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
Just started watching this last night, great stuff. Richardson breaking the 4th wall every so often is ultra-effective. Also notable how different London looked just 20yrs ago.
― Neil S, Sunday, 8 May 2011 10:46 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:27 AM (1 year ago)
this is filming right now... in baltimore
The new Netflix political drama "House of Cards" is now in production in the Baltimore, Maryland and Washington, D.C. areas. The casting directors are auditioning actors in New York, Los Angeles and Baltimore/D.C. for guest starring, recurring, and day player roles. In addition to the acting roles, many extras are being hired throughout the season. "House of Cards" will be based on the BBC miniseries of the same name. That original BBC version was based on a novel from British author Michael Dobbs. Netflix has ordered two seasons of episodes.Starring in "House of Cards" is two-time Academy Award winner Kevin Spacey as Rep. Frank Underwood, a House of Representatives Majority Whip who, after not being appointed Secretary of State, derives a plan to bring down the new president and take over the Oval Office. Golden Globe Award nominee Robin Wright plays Frank's wife Claire Underwood; Kate Mara is playing Zoe Barnes, a reporter for a Washington paper who conspires with Underwood to land a killer scoop; Michael Gill plays U.S. President Garrett Walker; two-time Tony nominee Jayne Atkinson is Sen. Catherine Durant; Corey Stoll landed the role of womanizing Rep. Patrick Russo, and Kristen Connolly plays Russo's Executive Assistant Christina Malone with whom he has a torrid affair.
Starring in "House of Cards" is two-time Academy Award winner Kevin Spacey as Rep. Frank Underwood, a House of Representatives Majority Whip who, after not being appointed Secretary of State, derives a plan to bring down the new president and take over the Oval Office. Golden Globe Award nominee Robin Wright plays Frank's wife Claire Underwood; Kate Mara is playing Zoe Barnes, a reporter for a Washington paper who conspires with Underwood to land a killer scoop; Michael Gill plays U.S. President Garrett Walker; two-time Tony nominee Jayne Atkinson is Sen. Catherine Durant; Corey Stoll landed the role of womanizing Rep. Patrick Russo, and Kristen Connolly plays Russo's Executive Assistant Christina Malone with whom he has a torrid affair.
― am0n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
i tried to watch this recently, i found it oddly unamenable. does it become less arch after the first ten minutes?
― human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Kate Mara = Rooney's older sister.
― canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
does it become less arch after the first ten minutes?
― human centipede hz (thomp)
Oh it's incredibly arch. I still love it.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
I'd watch a sixth season, so it hasn't lost me altogether. But Season 5 mostly felt far removed from what drew me in the first three seasons--had the same problem with The Leftovers--which was primarily the stories of Rachel Posner, Zoe Barnes, and Doug Stamper. I liked it when all of that returned towards the end. All the contested-election stuff (four episodes' worth?) was rendered pointless when it all got resolved with a couple of incriminating recordings--they could have dispensed with that in a single episode. Patricia Clarkson's character was bizarre. Good bizarre, I think--couldn't figure her out at all. Campbell Scott was good. Whoever played Macallan reminded me of Harry Dean Stanton. The absence of Mahershala Ali and Molly Parker hurt. The very ending made clear what I'd always assumed: the final season, maybe even the whole run, was conceived with a Hillary presidency as a given. I guess Trump's emergence came too late to change that (although a couple of Spacey's fourth-wall monologues had a clear Trump slant to them).
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 September 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link
The Claire-Tom Yates affair/arrangement/whatever was such a drag after a while. He was an interesting character when he first appeared, but by 5, every scene of theirs seemed to start with him standing at the kitchen sink looking forlorn and immobile.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 September 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link
I hope they renew for a sixth season, if only to conclude the story.
― naus, Sunday, 10 September 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
show has been prophetic, a PG-13 preview of a XXX trumputin putsch. don't know what you're all so blase about. keep it on the air in perpetuity so long as it keeps forecasting accurate impressions of american/russian political connivery
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 10 September 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
Just finished the Clinton American Experience (on YouTube); I'd never thought about it before, but the name Zoe Barnes is probably meant to evoke Zoe Baird, Clinton's defeated nominee for Attorney General. I believe that was the first thing to go wrong for Clinton in his chaotic first few months, and many of Underwood's problems trace back to Zoe Barnes.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 September 2017 04:16 (six years ago) link
A regular broadcast station here started rerunning the whole thing last night. Watching the very first two episodes really brought home how far things have strayed. The first Underwood-Barnes encounter, where she shows up at his townhouse and he invites her in, is fantastic.
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
Just finished season 5 and it was OK. Not as good as seasons 1 and 2 but a little better than season 4 and miles ahead of season 3, which was so bad I had to be persuaded to continue. Unfortunately they still seem to lack a certain amount of imagination as to what a genuine psychopath in charge of the country could do, I find it all so conservative for such a supposedly radical, boundary-testing show
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 September 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link
Oh, but Patricia Clarkson is brilliant, she is definitely the best thing about it right now.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 September 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
Unfortunately they still seem to lack a certain amount of imagination as to what a genuine psychopath in charge of the country could do, I find it all so conservative for such a supposedly radical, boundary-testing show
I stopped watching after s4 for that reason. The more into power Frank gets, the more his hands have gotten tied and so the "crazy" things he does resemble actual politics. I think the move away from the outlandishness of s1/s2 was a mistake
― Vinnie, Monday, 18 September 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 30 October 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
Season 5 was definitely a rebound from 3 and 4, but it arrived with so little enthusiasm I'm not even sure why Netflix would bother wasting so much money on a sixth season, unless they think the curiosity of a Spacey-less season would be enough to peak interest (even then I can't imagine people sticking around for another full season of... this).
It's cute that they continue to weigh the possibility of a spin off or w/e, when Spacey was so obviously this show's sole attraction. Maybe that was because he was the only actor allowed to signal he was having fun, though. Every other character is so dreary and miserable.
― Evan R, Monday, 20 November 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
Rewatching from the start. Great sinister character: Walter Doyle, the guy who vets Peter Russo for his gubernatorial campaign.
― clemenza, Sunday, 4 February 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
When Underwood's vetting Raymond Tusk (he thinks), they drop a nice Nixon allusion in: we find out Underwood's father was a peach farmer, "not a very successful one."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link
The episode from season 3 with Corrigan, the imprisoned gay activist, one of the best. Fantastic ending: "What are you looking at?"
― clemenza, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
The toxicity of Spacey has earmarked this for the dustbin of history, where it was probably headed anyway after the indifferent reaction to Season 5. There’s a trailer out there for Season 6--they’re finishing up without Spacey.
Just finished rewatching the whole thing, something I started before knowing there’d be a Season 6. Liked it a lot the second time through--even most of Season 5.
What I still didn’t like about Season 5. 1) The arc, or whatever you want to call it, is just weird. It starts on Election Day, I think, so you assume the election will happen and then they’ll move on. They stretch that out, though--not for as long as it felt like the first time, but it’s still not resolved midway through. And then, instead of complicating the narrative further and riding that out till the end, the election is resolved with three or four episodes still to go. 2) I don’t like the way they take Conway, initially a sharp contrast to Underwood, and turn him into this sad ghost of a character. I think they could have handled that some other way. 3) Frank’s big soliloquy in the Senate before resigning is one platitude after another about how corrupt the system is. 4) Frank’s “this was all planned” in the final episode. Maybe true, maybe not--he sounds really phony trying to sell the idea to Claire. But either way, there’s just too much to process if you want to test the validity of what he says.
Having said all that, I still found most of it absorbing, and three of the new characters are great: Usher, Jane Davis, and Macallan, the NSA hacker. (Macallan might have first appeared the previous season.) Davis and Macallan are bizarre--I don’t know that I ever understood either one of them. I loved how Davis was constantly appearing out of nowhere and whispering in somebody’s ear: she was a more lethal sidler than the sidler character on Seinfeld. And Macallan was shadowy, a little mad (that scene of him dancing with his headphones on), and tragic, doomed to disappear. I hope Usher and Davis are back for the final season.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
It's amazing, not knowing what what was in store for Spacey, how perfectly Season 5 ends if you ever did need to carry on without him. But they'll still need to work in some kind of an explanation for his absence. Which is kind of weird: they'll need to explain something nobody actually needs explained. (If they simply never mentioned Frank Underwood again, it's not like anybody watching would be confused.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link
four days before the midterms . . . sneaky sneaky
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link
I think it's going to be you, me, and Robin Wright's immediate family watching.
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link
I'm still going to watch. A glutton for punishment.
― brain (krakow), Thursday, 1 November 2018 09:00 (five years ago) link
That ending was shite.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link
the "surprises" throughout shouldn't have been so predictable. still i dig robin wright's mika brzezinski impression
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link
Was the whole season released? I can get it from my brother-in-law if they did it that way; if it's week-by-week, I'll have to wait.
― clemenza, Friday, 9 November 2018 02:02 (five years ago) link
whole thing -- eight episodes -- is out
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 9 November 2018 02:16 (five years ago) link
Thanks. Will get hold of this pronto.
― clemenza, Friday, 9 November 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link
First episode had a few effective moments. I wish someone had had enough of a sense of humour to add Kevin Spacey's name to the "In Loving Memory" end-credit, though.
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 November 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link
Man this season blew.
― akm, Sunday, 11 November 2018 02:51 (five years ago) link
Tried the first episode and it was dire. Could be a while before I'm bored enough to get through the whole season.
― brain (krakow), Sunday, 11 November 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link
I loved Tom Hammerschmidt flipping out in the second episode: "Analytics?! What the fuck does that even mean!" He was talking about the newspaper industry, not baseball, but I'd love to have a video clip of that on standby.
I'm not hating it so far. Kinnear-Lane aren't especially compelling as villains, but I did like Wright's "Your brother?" riposte. I don't know...they've been scrambling since at least the third or fourth season, and this just seems like more of the same minus Spacey. It still looks good.
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
kinnear is good i think. surprised by how poor an actress lane comes off as, at least through the first five episodes (got the last three still to go)
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
I'm a little confused after three episodes, but I think I've been confused since season 4. (The focus seems to be Claire covering up her tracks...I thought they were past that by now.) I continue to love Patricia Clarkson's character, even though--or because--I've never had a clue what she actually does, or why she has the president's ear. She just pops up here and there, acts distracted and conspiratorial and evil at the same time (great shot of her sitting in the restaurant waiting for Durant), then goes away.
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
I thought Kinnear and Lane were good, but I had a hard time buying these two people who were never mentioned once in previous seasons were supposed to have been so powerful all along. It's one of several things that felt like a huge disconnect to previous years that showed the rushed nature of the writing.
The point where I suddenly felt like the show had gone too far was when they were all sitting around very openly discussing assassination with what seemed to be mid-level staffers. I realize this show has been preposterous since Spacey threw the woman in front of a train but this seemed like a step too far.
Obviously the show isn't going forward after this, but what the fuck happens to Janice?
― akm, Sunday, 11 November 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
Patricia Clarkson is so amazing and beautiful and badass she should have been in it more.
maybe the best parts of the series were when they were talking about erasing francis underwood and it worked as a completely non subtle commentary on Spacey.
― akm, Sunday, 11 November 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
also it's not clear at all how much time had passed from the last season to this one but why was Tom's body completely fresh when it showed up? Did the VP have it in his private cryogenic freezer?
― akm, Sunday, 11 November 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
All good questions, especially the heretofore invisibility of Kinnear and Lane. Plausibility has never been a big concern on this show.
Forgot to mention the subtle incorporation of Rosemary's Baby into Claire's movie night (I thought it was going to be Double Indemnity again). Just the theme song, no visuals. Not sure if there's any symbolic connection there.
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 November 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
Handling Spacey's disappearance as basically an "I have to go now, my planet needs me" kludge was really hamfisted. "oh yeah he died btw".
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 12 November 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link
What the world needs now is robin Wright looking dramatic like I need a hole in my head
― calstars, Monday, 12 November 2018 00:36 (five years ago) link
The big disconnect for me after five episodes is the sudden reemergence of Rachel Posner. Wasn't that all settled two or three seasons ago? Or is Doug Stamper still on the hook for her? I liked Claire throwing the door open to her new cabinet. They really got fouled up by Trump winning--the show was so clearly aiming towards running concurrently with a Clinton presidency. (When they do try to shoehorn Trump in--the 25th amendment, secret meetings with Russians--it's awkwardly transparent.)
― clemenza, Monday, 12 November 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
W G A SGAF
― calstars, Monday, 12 November 2018 02:21 (five years ago) link
You're giving me clues about Rachel's centrality to everything...No you're not--you're asking me why I care. I don't really; I'm watching, trying to figure everything out, posting. That's what we do here.
― clemenza, Monday, 12 November 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link
"Barzini's dead. So is Phillip Tattaglia...Moe Greene...Strachi...Cuneo...Today I settled all family business"--when all else fails, turn to The Godfather.
― clemenza, Monday, 12 November 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link
Loved the end of episode 7. They've gone totally Grand Guignol at this point--along with that previous Godfather flourish, they've now made the Rosemary's Baby connection explicit, and they've even thrown some Night of the Hunter in there too. I think that's all they could have done; I'm glad they didn't get earnest and explanatory (we'll see what the final episode brings).
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 02:41 (five years ago) link
As much as I liked all the things I singled out above, the finale was quite silly. There's a lot of funny lines in this:
I liked the reappearance of Walter Doyle. Even he couldn't get a handle on what the hell going on.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link
One thing that was ultimately pointless, I thought, were all those flashbacks to Claire's youth. I expected them to lead up to some crucial revelation--circumstantial, or about her personality--but I'm not sure they added much of anything.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link
foregrounding rosemary's baby with lysistrata to frame flashback claire and president claire's lone convo was a nice final note on that arc in ways i can't get into without being spoilery and same deal with her final convo with 'douglas'. spotty final season though for sure! spacey may be a creep (and the game they play in the last episode with his voice maybe tasteless?) but it's hard not to hear that southern H sometimes ~ "wHy claire" ~ in the silence where it seems his part's been written out
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 15 November 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link
avocado abortion lmao
― Dan I., Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:35 (four years ago) link
Didn't attach any significance to it last time I watched a couple of years ago--other than it typified how progressively crazy the show got the last two or three seasons--but it's very tempting right now to see the Underwoods' attempts to overturn/meddle with the 2016 election through the prism of Trump the last couple of months. Not similar in specifics, but in broad strokes--create as much chaos as you can if you're sure to lose, and hold fast to the premise that the office belongs to you--not all that different. James Poniewozik's Audience of One argues that everything Trump does can somehow be traced to all the TV he has absorbed through his life, going all the way back to childhood. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's familiar with House of Cards, and that S4 is buried somewhere in his feverish insanity as of late.
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:33 (two years ago) link
(Season 5, I should say.)
I alluded to this exchange a couple of years ago, but I've got quote the whole thing--really enjoying the Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? aspects of the Claire-Annette dynamic this time around.
Claire: "I don't think your brother is gonna let up, Annette. Until he gets his ring kissed directly, I think."
Annette: "Reminds me of someone you were married to."
Claire: "Oh, no. Bill and Francis are very different people."
Anette: "Agreed. You know I slept with him once."
Claire: "Your brother?"
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 19:49 (two years ago) link
Almost three years--I've got to revisit this every so often.
I bet I asked this above somewhere, but: in S1, Peter Russo's self-implosion sets in motion the events that lead to Frank becoming VP, everything orchestrated by Frank himself. But that all starts with the watershed bill being defeated, and Frank seems genuinely enraged about that (and about Claire's betrayal on the bill). If the bill had passed, though, how does he then become VP? The plan that seems so carefully worked out after the bill goes down, did Frank just improvise everything on the spot?
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 November 2023 21:24 (one week ago) link