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Part of me is like, it can’t be easy to find someone who’s a bit of a weirdo socially, who also comes across as nice and smart, but who ALSO has superpowers. If Stan Lee was still alive to review the storyboard, i think he’d be, “cool character, but this guy is not very realistic. he’s in the uncanny valley of superheroes, my dudes.”

otm

also man ueli steck was something else, rip dude

gbx, Friday, 8 February 2019 06:04 (five years ago) link

re books, i'll make a shameless plug for my pal freddie's book "one mountain thousand summits," notable largely because much of the focus is on the experience of the sherpas working on K2 who are every bit the incredible athletes (or more) as the alpinists they're working for

gbx, Friday, 8 February 2019 06:07 (five years ago) link

i watched Free Solo recently and speaking of something else, wow that guy is something else

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 8 February 2019 06:56 (five years ago) link

https://enormocast.com/2017/07/episode-133-alex-honnold-kind-of-a-big-deal/

Long, interesting interview with Honnold on the Enormocast. Definitely a lot of inside baseball, but that's also sorta the point (it's a climbing-specific podcast). Good complement to the documentary, and actually makes Honnold seem even more affable?

gbx, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

he is pretty charismatic, will check. hey gbx, do you get DMs off ilx? didn't know how to ping you on bike stuff, so i tried a ilx-o-gram a few days back. my email off here is from 2002 i think, still exists apparently. "yahoo"!

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 23:30 (five years ago) link

i don't think i've checked my ilx-associated email in....many years?

take my govt name as shown on strava and concatenate without punctuation and geeee mail it

gbx, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:17 (five years ago) link

i thought he was kind of a sarcastic ass to his girlfriend

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 04:29 (five years ago) link

In the documentary? For sure

gbx, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 06:25 (five years ago) link

you mean free solo guy?
i didn't think he was sarcastic but he was definitely acting selfishly

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

yea honnold

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qSiEKntQA

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 February 2019 07:33 (five years ago) link

dude presents as so megacharismatic to my type imo, even as a non-climber. im at min 7 and just 👀 lol

Hunt3r, Thursday, 28 February 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link

"Whoah that's not a thing." LOL

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 28 February 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link

"Oh well he just died, that sucks."

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 28 February 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

Very surprised that he said sliding down a rock face and catching the lip of an overhang IS a thing!

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 28 February 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

I assume he means in free-climbing when you're roped in but what do I know.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 28 February 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

i watched the whole movie, and tbh i find this guy difficult to watch
he reminds me of grizzly man only more together :( watching him makes me feel sad & worried for his girlfriend who seems to be a beautiful young good person who is way in love with him :( :( :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

My wife came home a couple nights and says "oh, we had some sad news at work." What happened, I asked? She said a co-worker's future brother-in-law died in an avalanche. That's terrible, I said, how did that happen? And she said he was an extreme snow sports athlete, and I said that's still terrible, but, well, yeah.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link

eat shit

gbx, Sunday, 3 March 2019 07:38 (five years ago) link

That was definitely in poor taste, and I apologize.

I did find out more details. It was near Aspen and I think he and someone else were readying for some kind of ski race? Anyway, it sounds like there has been record snowfall out there (just saw a picture of friend's porch, which got 12 feet dumped on it while they were away). Heard another report where this means there are a number of towns and areas at serious risk of both fires *and* flooding.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 March 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link

*shit-tons of hunt3r fatality takes deleted*

there's a lot of fun snotel nws pages, but this one is pretty well cleaned up:

https://www.weather.gov/source/crh/snowmap.html?sid=bou

even more than usual, this storm was weird and aspecty and hyperlocal, from reports and maps.

steamboat sez 'what's up!' wish i was there.

Hunt3r, Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

I'm sorry for being rude, JiC, I had literally just seen a friend post something on instagram about their friend they lost in a slide some years ago --- that shit will take out even the least extreme ppl if the conditions align.

gbx, Monday, 4 March 2019 01:28 (five years ago) link

odds are they were prepping for the power of 4 race, which was held in aspen, yesterday

snow can be scary stuff, and a lot of ppl go into the backcountry totally uneducated and come out unscathed, not fully realizing just how close to the sun they were flying (looking at you, 24yo gbx)

gbx, Monday, 4 March 2019 01:33 (five years ago) link

“too close to the sun” is def the correct title for a high-risk outdoor life bio/autobio- *checks*

fuck that, yeah def done by some imperial brit.

Hunt3r, Monday, 4 March 2019 04:35 (five years ago) link

https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/width_1200/public/2019/03/04/mera-sending-it_h.jpg

The First Dog Ascent of a 7,000-Meter Himalayan Peak

On November 9, 2018, a dog named Mera became the first of her kind to reach the summit of Baruntse, a 23,389-foot peak in Nepal’s Himalayas, located just south of Mount Everest. The peak, often overlooked as it lies in the shadow of some of the tallest mountains in the world, is a steep, challenging climb in its own right. Other than a brief human-aided zip line down a short section of fixed line, Mera made the ascent completely unsupported.

“I am not aware of a dog actually summiting an expedition peak in Nepal,” says Billi Bierling of the Himalayan Database, an organization that documents climbing expeditions in Nepal. “I just hope that she won’t get into trouble for having climbed Baruntse without a permit.” According to Bierling, there have been a few cases of dogs at Everest Base Camp (17,600 feet) and some who’ve followed teams through the Khumbu Icefall up to Camp II (21,300 feet), but this is perhaps the highest-recorded elevation ever reached by a dog anywhere in the world.

Mera, age unknown, is a 45-pound Nepalese mutt who appears to be a cross between a Tibetan mastiff and a Himalayan sheepdog. She possesses an extraordinary level of confidence relative to her small frame. Though slight, she’s lean, with muscles likely honed by years of travel over rough mountainous terrain in the Khumbu Valley. She has soft, close-cropped black fur, with legs and a snout dipped in golden yellow, small ears that flop forward, and kind eyes.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 March 2019 07:49 (five years ago) link

:)

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Saturday, 16 March 2019 09:18 (five years ago) link

started a yellow snow joek then realized i had to read about that pup and snark it went away cuz dog, aw.

Hunt3r, Saturday, 16 March 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link

[back in ilx after long spell away, hullo peeps!]

just saw "free solo" last night. for me, watching it was an emotional experience. i was intensely into climbing at one point in my life, decades ago, when 'sport climbing' was not a thing yet, rock gyms were a rumored curiosity, and shoe selection involved a choice between just two or three brands.

my climbing was mostly done with two good friends. we lived in montreal, so spent most of our time in the adirondacks. all granite. climbing was the first sport in which my gangly body felt gifted and graceful. i had a lot of difficult things going on my head in those days, self-hatred, terror, stuff that has taken me decades to get on top of, but the slow vertical dance on those vast granite faces, the rhythm of crack climbing, the controlled exhilaration i felt when leading a pitch, the feeling of setting up secure anchors for my partners, ...purified me deeply, and after topping out, the sense of feeling, not just okay, but exalted, was incomparable.

some years into this, i had a bad accident. not climbing: a car accident. i emerged with nerve damage in my left hand. could no longer oppose the thumb (i'm only half human now!), grip strength rendered negligible. i've continued climbing, but nowhere near at the same level. mostly bouldering, some indoor stuff.

for me the star of "free solo" was el capitan. i couldn't take my eyes off it. like many climbers who haven't even climbed the big wall i suspect, the profile of el cap, the great crack systems, flakes and roofs -- much of it is imprinted in our mind, from simply looking at so many photographs, topos, and whatnot. hell i went twice to the ansel adams exhibit that recently closed at the museum of fine arts, just to stand in front of those exposures and feel the storm clearing out of the Valley. i don't know, i just love granite. and el cap in "free solo" presented so many facets. massive and terrifying, yes. but on a small scale: textured, multi-colored, intimate even. above all predictable, when it counted.

i was just struck by the beauty of the wall and of the climbing. in some ways honnold's ascent is the supreme way to pay homage to all of what that is.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

nice post! will have to watch free solo asap...

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

cg that post is fantastic, thanks for sharing.

Hunt3r, Saturday, 16 March 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

Beautiful post!

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 16 March 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link

thanks so much guys :-)

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 16 March 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link

really great post

granite is so wonderful, but i think my heart belongs to desert sandstone?? for sentimental reasons, many great memories from red rocks nv

i just started climbing again (ie going to the gym) after a several year long hiatus and i have become obsessed with going to indian creek (finally, after a couple decades of fascination), but am a) out of shape b) not an owner of 500000 cams and c) without partners :(

gbx, Saturday, 16 March 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link

wonderful post cg - welcome back!

free solo is airing on demand on NatGeo channel at the moment

watching it now & lol i didnt even realize that Jimmy Chin was one of the filmmakers! I saw Meru for the first time just last year so it all just clicked for me just now

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 March 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

maybe not everyone is familiar with mark twight, but the most recent enormocast with him is really good, definitely broke down some notions i had about him. he was the prince of darkness when i was reading climbing mag every month, interesting to see him come out the other end of the tunnel

gbx, Sunday, 17 March 2019 03:21 (five years ago) link

finished the movie. so good!

i am not a climber
i have never climbed
but my god that climb was so incredible it made me cry

just amazing


i do feel bad for his girlfriend. i mean in general to paraphrase kenny rogers “dont fall in love with a climber” but also she seems lovely & i see so much hearbreak ahead for her.

but also i think his perceived dickishness is a function of his flat affect & a by-product whatever the untreated issue is that he clearly has going on. not to give him an easy out but he just doesn’t seem to generate emotional responses in a “normal” way. his family backstory was pretty o_O

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 March 2019 03:23 (five years ago) link

i want a minute by minute no soundtrack film of his climb

gbx, Sunday, 17 March 2019 03:31 (five years ago) link

yes!

i was kinda annoyed by the high-speed section, i would have liked less lead up if it meant being able to see the whole climb

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 March 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

*sections

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 March 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

thanks vg!

i too would love to see a 3 hr 56 min version, from the deck to the top-out, if such footage even exists (i suspect not, given the small film crew, the terrain to be covered, and the sheer speed of honnold’s climbing).

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

i could not believe how fast he went
especially after the false start etc etc

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

lookit now

she didnt come across as any innocent to me neither.

scenes jumping him with big questions were pretty staged and manipulative, her being all made up for her closeups in one or two were straight up lols

not that he doesnt need that tbf

like a younger version of lauren hollys character from any given sunday

~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:42 (five years ago) link

idg what her makeup has to do with anything but ok

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:59 (five years ago) link

sound

~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:22 (five years ago) link

The Dawn Wall (Tommy Caldwell vs El Cap) is on Netflix atm if anyone is keen
Good companion to Free Solo

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 March 2019 01:27 (five years ago) link

Weird timing to see this on SNA. Went out to Western Maryland for a little father/son hiking with my kid. We always used to go hiking in state parks as a family, but once his little sister came along, having to wait up for her little legs slowed us down a lot and made it less fun for him. So I wanted to just take him out, two dudes with nothing in our way.

Anyway, we hiked this small mountain until we came to this great rock formation at the top maybe 30 feet high. He was eager to just climb straight up them (because he's a little intense), but I convinced him to take it slower because he doesn't know what he's doing. We climbed up top from one of the lower parts of the wall and we ended up scrambling around exploring some of these giant cracks and fissures for a good long while. It was a great morning.

Then we got home and he started watching Valley Uprising on Netflix. It had a lot of stylistic quirks that I've seen a thousand times before in sports documentaries like Dogtown and Z-Boys or whatever. I'll have to check out the docs you guys recommended to compare. But it was still cool to see him following up on his new interest. I guess the next thing is to look into climbing instruction so he doesn't go off half-cocked.

☮, 🐸 (peace, man), Monday, 18 March 2019 09:19 (five years ago) link

watching him makes me feel sad & worried for his girlfriend who seems to be a beautiful young good person who is way in love with him :( :( :(

Finally getting around to this, and she seems to be ascribing a lot of emotions and inner monologue to him that, by all indications, do no exist. Those people should not be in a relationship imo, that stuff is much harder to watch than the climbing.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:47 (five years ago) link

We saw it this past weekend -- our read was that she did approach him initially via the book signing, and that she says she appreciates his blunt honesty. I'd just say it seems like they're reaching their own kind of random balance bit by bit, but who knows.

Separately, I did like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qSiEKntQA

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

Anyway, separately -- yes: ridiculously beautiful film at its best, El Capitan as iconic place may never be captured so well, though I think we'll catch The Dawn Wall this weekend as a companion piece.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

love that gq bit

and yeah, need to see the dawn wall too -- they kinda messed up releasing it so close to free solo

gbx, Friday, 22 March 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link


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