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What new brews have you been trying? I just had my first Sinebrychoff (Koff) Porter IV, a Finnish beer, and my first taste of Scandinavian darks. It's quite nice, remarkably smooth and drinkable for a dark with 7.2% alc content. Almost a dark chocolate flavour but not in a chocolate stout way and not with any lingering bitterness.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 01:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Last night I drank a Widmeyer Hefeweizen, which I found meh, and a Maresdous 8, which was very tasty in the tradition of tasty Belgian strong ales. A bit on the sweeter side of what I like but not over the line.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh, I'll keep an eye out for that. I've been meaning to start exploring Belgian beers. I was putting it off till I'd tried every English stout but I should probably start sooner.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's almost summer! Time to put the stouts away!

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I had something called Sunset Wheat the other night which tasted like orange and was surprisingly good considering that fact.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

nooooooooooooooooo!!!

(I'm assuming you're talking about Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat, which I declared a vendetta against because it is the single least-pleasant beer I have ever had)

bernard snowy, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

sundar iirc you are in OTT or MTL? where are you getting these amazing beers from in whichever of those two cities you're in?

if you are from neither of those places i apologize, i just remember you saying it once or something. i may be making it up.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm from Ottawa (and lived in Mtl 2001-2002) but I've been living in Buffalo NY for almost 2 years now.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Where exactly?

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

BTW if near West Flanders: Should have tried the Brugse Zot!

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

(I would imagine that at least Mtl should have good places for this? I couldn't help you though. I drank Colt 45 from the dep when I lived there. Ah, callow youth.)

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

To be fair, I haven't really looked past my local deps, but the few bars I've found that have bigger selections were pretty disappointing... one place that was recommended highly as a place with a bunch of beers had that greek beer whose name I forget as the rarest one. mythos?

i'll have to check ch0whound or something.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Let me know if you find (or have had) Dieu du Ciel Aphrodisiaque. The ratebeer.com folks rank it as the best sweet stout on earth but I haven't found any around here.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

yes. mythos. it's not bad!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think I am going to drop by Dieu du Ciel tonight, actually. Everything they have is actually to a pretty high standard... the reason you probably haven't found it is because they aren't actually bottling any of their brews yet. Apparently they're opening another brewery north of the city though, and they're going to start bottling there! I can't remember where I heard that. I read it today after doing a bit of ch0whound research. I will see if I can talk to the owners or something tonight (I'm going early so hopefully the place will be near empty, I'm not much of one for the crowd there). I've not had the aphrodisiaque, don't know if it's "in season" (they only brew most things a couple times a year), but if they have it I'll give you a review!

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 18:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Where exactly?

Brussels. and Paris, but that's obviously not in Belgium. May I also suggest that if you do go to France and decide to try the local brews, Kronenbourg tastes like piss. stay away.

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've developed a fondness for Zywiec lately - I don't even usually like lagers much but it's so smooth and tasty. Perfect warm weather beer.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 00:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

it is. and that red-temperature indicator on the back is key!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 01:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

König Ludwig Weissbier is majorly tasty, if a bit pricey.

I recently tried this weird Belgian beer, "La Chouffe." Unpasteurized, 8% and quite good. (Although the floaty yeast cultures were somewhat of a turn-off)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I've had La Chouffe - very nice. There are so many good belgian beers it's amazing.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

I just remembered I have a beer question:

In Mexico I tried Bohemia (regular, not dark) and it was fantastic - at the moment I thought it was one of the best beers I'd ever tried.

Recently I tried some Bohemia in a U.S. Mexican place and it was meh. Is it possible I was getting a different "export" version, or that the transit did something to the beer?

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Man...I have had so much "skunky" imported beer, could that be it?

On a related note, what do you do when your beer is obviously off and you've already drank a couple? Can you take the rest back to the store.?

;)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Oh yeah, I went back to Dieu, but no Aphro... was available. I didn't get a chance to ask when/if it was coming back... next time! Maybe I'll go tonight, I would like to dig into my new book and my house smells like cat piss and I am not currently poor.

Will M., Tuesday, 12 June 2007 18:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh man! I didn't see that you guys were talking about Biere D'Achouffe. I thought it was a Quebecois beer for so long! True story. Apparently the first place they started exporting to was Quebec! It is very delicious. I don't remember finding any little floaters, though...

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 19:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Response from Dieu du Ciel to two questions I asked via e-mail:

Hello Will,

Thanks you for your comments. It is much appreciated.

1-) We brew the Aphrodisiaque only 2 or 3 times a year. The next batch
will probably be avaible something like next september.

2-) Yes, it's true, we are in the process of building up a bottling
plant in St-Jérôme. There will also be a pub there. We hope to be able
to sell our first bottles at the end of July.

Cheers!
[dude's name removed by me]

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 21:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

currently - harviestoun Butter and Twisted is amazinhg, but we've just come back from North East France (ie very near the Belgian border and lots of Flemish beer-making tradition) and have been loving L'angelus which is beer's swankiest bottle I fear, gold foil and everything. Also Maredsous, Amadeus (lemon flavoured, should be wrong but oh so right) and god's own beer - Orval.

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

erm that's bitter and twisted of course

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

When alcohol content is shown on U.S. beer, it is often labelled by weight. Since alcohol is lighter than water, this can leave the mistaken impression that U.S. beer has much less alcohol, on average, than Canadian beer. A 3.2% beer in the U.S. (by weight) would be equivalent to a 4% beer in Canada (by volume).

Wikipedia I LOVE YOU. Did anyone know this? It boggles the mind! WHY?!

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

let's have a sesh

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

link?

dan m, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

my girl friend brought me a 6 pack of Hitachino Nest White Ale. Pretty good stuff. nice floral aromas ,perfect for a hot summer day. i think it's kind of pricey though

carne asada, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

link, sorry: Canadian Beer

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Apparently they have Aphrodisiaque in now. And I'm destitute poor and going away for the weekend! NOOOOO!

Will M., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Recommend some beer. Not too heavy, not too wheaty, crisp and refreshing in the style of Tsing Tsao or similar.

Also recommend some beers like Paulaner or the white Kronenberg with the fruity taste whose name escapes me.

I am in the mood for trying different beers.

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dude, Zywiec

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

(re: light, crisp, refreshing, not wheaty)

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was at the nashville beer fest and the best thing there was a homebrewed bock that they ran out of by my second go-round. After a while though all you care about is that the beer is cold, because it's nearly august, and you're outdoors in nashville.

I think I might have talked my dad into getting a 30-gallon kit from Boot Lager. (ha ha, "boot lager")

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

I also finally made myself a michelada with a little kosher salt on top of a can of tecate with a lime in it. not half bad, if you don't mind a bit of foamy foam foam.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sundar, have you tried Flying Bison? I can't quite remember which bars serve it (I think the Ulrich's, but they have closed, I think). I miss it dearly.

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I swore by Aviator Red (which you can get at Wegman's) for a while. I still think it's good but have gone off it a bit. Are there other good FB beers?

I wanted to make it to Dieu du Ciel when I visited Mtl earlier in the month but couldn't make it. Drank a lot of St-Ambroise (and some nice micro wheats) instead.

Sundar, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

They have seasonal beers (which I can remember the name of), that friends would bring me in growlers. I never managed to locate the brewery, which apparently is on the West Side (on Niagara, maybe?). Anyway, I remember enjoying the summer and winter ales quite a bit.

Available in Wegmans!? Ahh! This was not so when I lived there! I love you, Wegmans!

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Dude, Zywiec"

One of the benefits of my area of London filling up with large numbers of young eastern Europeans is the availablity in the cornershops of excellent Polish beers at ridiculously cheap prices.

Zywiec is one of the better ones, at about £1 a bottle. The dark lagers especailly are a revelation.

bham, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Saku from Estonia is pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

Saku or Saku Kuld, anyway. The dark variety has that soy saucey aftertaste I can't get with.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

is this a joke? heh...I don't get it if so. is it that unusual that I ask about trying new beers?

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

I had a Saku Porter that had a weird aftertaste, that was probably the same one.

Wheats: Last night I was drinking Sprecher Hefe Weiss, which was all right.
Non-Wheats: Last night I was also drinking New Holland Mad Hatter, which was goddamn awesome.

dan m, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

I guess I am in the dark :/ I thought you were still teetotalling because of your stuffed-upedness-in-the-cabesa.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

i love floral flavors in beer and other stuff though it's easy to mess up. drinking two vintages of mamouche at my bachelor party is a cherished memory.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Xpost

http://a66.tinypic.com/25s8m6x.jpg

Jeff, Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:06 (one month ago) Permalink

now is prime time for me to buy all the winter seasonals that are on clearance :)

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:07 (one month ago) Permalink

s/o to my living room, two living rooms ago

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:07 (one month ago) Permalink

not sure I've had lavender in food, but hibiscus is good imo

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:29 (one month ago) Permalink

It is a bit sour, and the lavender flavor wasn't pronounced. 101 Cider House is the brewery, and Black Dog is that specific one. WF used to carry but hasn't for months, but I think BevMo does. We're getting a Total Wine & More in town soon, so I'm expecting lots of new things to try.

nickn, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:00 (one month ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Oh hey Peruvian Morning is back

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 29 March 2018 00:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It doesn't seem to be infected, tastes v good!

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 29 March 2018 00:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm guessing that Toppling Goliath has their on-site production ramped up now, judging from the number of variations on their beers I've seen on tap lately!

Golden Nugget w/Mosaic hops was really good

mh, Monday, 2 April 2018 20:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Is there a chicken nugget beer?

calstars, Monday, 2 April 2018 20:47 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm guessing that Toppling Goliath has their on-site production ramped up now

― mh, Monday, April 2, 2018 1:44 PM (one hour ago)

They have a huge new brewing facility across from the Decorah airport. The original location in downtown Decorah is pretty tiny.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 2 April 2018 22:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

A fellow patron at the bar was telling me about it! Sounds nice.

mh, Monday, 2 April 2018 22:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

now I'm wondering if you were the dude at the bar

mh, Monday, 2 April 2018 22:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Scottish Campervan Brewery's Himalaya Gose 4% on draft (5/5) is a darn near perfect Gose. Sea salty freshness. I was at a beer fest a couple weeks ago, and I used about half my tokens on refills of this. Subsequent bottles were also nearly too drinkable.

Other nice sour discoveries:

Danish - To Øl Mr. Blue 2018 Edition (500ml can) 9% - this stuff is a dangerous Berliner Weisse with blackberries and acais and hits you perfectly in the cheeks - one of my favourite high ABV beers ever (4/5)

Swedish - Brekeriet Picnic Sunrise (bottle) 2.7% - tart raspberry but eminently drinkable (4/5)

Irish - White Hag - The Puca Berries, Hibiscus & Ginger Sour (can) 3.6% - doesn't even taste like beer but this is some nice refreshing sour juice (3/5)

I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Monday, 2 April 2018 23:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Those sound rad

calstars, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yea for sure

marcos, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 02:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

lol @mh, I was there last January (detailed upthread) and had a blast.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 02:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh yeah! I just thought it was funny that you mentioned some details in the same way a dude casually told me about their updates

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 03:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that is to say, if you’re ever in des moines, there’s a spot at the bar at the iowa taproom with your name on it, apparently

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 03:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

<3

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 03:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Comerica Bank forecloses on @GreenFlashBeer & Alpine. CEO Mike Hinkley exits company https://t.co/5QYFsFfPun pic.twitter.com/nknKwQ6Ldq

— Beer Street Journal (@BeerSTJournal) April 3, 2018



RIP Green Flash/Alpine

Jeff, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 17:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

wow, that happened fast

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 17:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Alpine Beer Company will be wound down and dissolved

!!!!

Can't decide which is worse between these Private Equity pieces of shit or big beer.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Alpine Nelson will remain a top 5 beer for me all-time.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Crap

I actually like quite a few of alpine’s releases

Duet, mandarin nectar, etc

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

aw i stayed across the street from them once on a job trip and hit them up a few times. had one of the few spicy beers i've actually enjoyed. rip.

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The former corporate form is being dissolved but the beer isn't going away

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i am enjoying trying "green bottle" beers (most recently Peroni) that now come in cans and tasting what they are like when they are not skunked.

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

good experiment

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

What happens when Michigan bests Loyola in the Final Four:

Have you gotten your hands on any 2018 KBS (the superior bourbon barrel-aged stout)? pic.twitter.com/hSMV6bDNpS

— Goose Island Beer Co (@GooseIsland) April 4, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

lol

i was pleasantly surprised to be able to pick up two 4-packs of KBS when i was in michigan last week

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Haven't seen any here, then again there was CBS back on the shelves a week or two ago.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

saw a few 4 packs of kbs at whole foods yesterday

never really liked it but whatevz

really like cbs though, but haven't seen those since december

some really good stuff i've been drinking recently:

epic's neipa/pulp addiction
craftsman el prieto sour black ale

kern river's river buddy was a pleasant surprise

modern times' fraxos is quite nice as well

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

modern times' fraxos is quite nice as well

yeah, best shelfturd in the town where I'm staying.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

we are getting a modern times taproom here. should be good.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

their sour/tropical fruit gose is not the worst

it has passion fruit and guava flavours

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

good for southern california weather

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'll still stan for the Golden Road mango sour - more tart than sour, definite mango flavor but not sweet, 4% abv - as a SoCal summer beer.

I think I had that Craftsman El Prieto a couple months back, loved it.

nickn, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i had it at stout in hollywood

digging stout's beer menu actually

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I like the Alesmith Sublime Mexican Lager - goes well with food.

o. nate, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Got a KBS to try, it tastes big on coffee but not so much on barrel.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 6 April 2018 02:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Got a Hitachino Nest wheat beer. It’s ok I guess.

Can anyone recommend a good Japanese brew?

calstars, Sunday, 15 April 2018 01:39 (one week ago) Permalink

hitachino seemed really novel and cool when I had my first one back in like... 2005? I miss simpler times

alvin noto (mh), Sunday, 15 April 2018 02:41 (one week ago) Permalink

KBS apparently much easier to find than usual this year (was for me at least), but I've heard from the usual nerds that it's a particularly unimpressive batch.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 April 2018 03:06 (one week ago) Permalink

Seems like Founders made a whole lot more KBS this year, seeing it everywhere.

re: Japanese beer, are you talking in Japan or what gets exported? Japanese craft beer is not great (esp. Baird & Hitachino Nest), I've found 2 breweries in my travels that I think stand up to the best German, Belgian, USA, British, & Baltic beers:

Yorocco:
Their recent mixed fermentation saisons and "new england" (lol) IPAs really blew me away on my tour of the brewery. Great spot in a cool area in Kanagawa-ken.

Minoh:
Culty and niche Kansai brewery, they tackle a million styles and have a high strike-rate.

I stick mostly to mass-produced rice lagers as they pair well with food, I'd rather save my beer/brewery credit for trips to locations with more interesting beer scenes tbqh.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh wow, that is great info. I may be going in June and could potentially check those out.

I’ve been to the Sapporo brewery - the beer is what it is but the huge beer hall aspect is enjoyable

calstars, Sunday, 15 April 2018 21:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Export recs welcomed

calstars, Sunday, 15 April 2018 21:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Cigar City Guayabera is a nice option to have available in cans. I’m a sucker for anything with a crisp Citra hop flavor.

o. nate, Monday, 16 April 2018 00:56 (one week ago) Permalink

(Sorry that’s not a Japan recommendation. I do like Sapporo.)

o. nate, Monday, 16 April 2018 00:57 (one week ago) Permalink


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