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What new brews have you been trying? I just had my first Sinebrychoff (Koff) Porter IV, a Finnish beer, and my first taste of Scandinavian darks. It's quite nice, remarkably smooth and drinkable for a dark with 7.2% alc content. Almost a dark chocolate flavour but not in a chocolate stout way and not with any lingering bitterness.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 01:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Last night I drank a Widmeyer Hefeweizen, which I found meh, and a Maresdous 8, which was very tasty in the tradition of tasty Belgian strong ales. A bit on the sweeter side of what I like but not over the line.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh, I'll keep an eye out for that. I've been meaning to start exploring Belgian beers. I was putting it off till I'd tried every English stout but I should probably start sooner.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It's almost summer! Time to put the stouts away!

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I had something called Sunset Wheat the other night which tasted like orange and was surprisingly good considering that fact.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

nooooooooooooooooo!!!

(I'm assuming you're talking about Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat, which I declared a vendetta against because it is the single least-pleasant beer I have ever had)

bernard snowy, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

sundar iirc you are in OTT or MTL? where are you getting these amazing beers from in whichever of those two cities you're in?

if you are from neither of those places i apologize, i just remember you saying it once or something. i may be making it up.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'm from Ottawa (and lived in Mtl 2001-2002) but I've been living in Buffalo NY for almost 2 years now.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Where exactly?

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

BTW if near West Flanders: Should have tried the Brugse Zot!

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(I would imagine that at least Mtl should have good places for this? I couldn't help you though. I drank Colt 45 from the dep when I lived there. Ah, callow youth.)

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

To be fair, I haven't really looked past my local deps, but the few bars I've found that have bigger selections were pretty disappointing... one place that was recommended highly as a place with a bunch of beers had that greek beer whose name I forget as the rarest one. mythos?

i'll have to check ch0whound or something.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Let me know if you find (or have had) Dieu du Ciel Aphrodisiaque. The ratebeer.com folks rank it as the best sweet stout on earth but I haven't found any around here.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yes. mythos. it's not bad!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I think I am going to drop by Dieu du Ciel tonight, actually. Everything they have is actually to a pretty high standard... the reason you probably haven't found it is because they aren't actually bottling any of their brews yet. Apparently they're opening another brewery north of the city though, and they're going to start bottling there! I can't remember where I heard that. I read it today after doing a bit of ch0whound research. I will see if I can talk to the owners or something tonight (I'm going early so hopefully the place will be near empty, I'm not much of one for the crowd there). I've not had the aphrodisiaque, don't know if it's "in season" (they only brew most things a couple times a year), but if they have it I'll give you a review!

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 18:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Where exactly?

Brussels. and Paris, but that's obviously not in Belgium. May I also suggest that if you do go to France and decide to try the local brews, Kronenbourg tastes like piss. stay away.

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've developed a fondness for Zywiec lately - I don't even usually like lagers much but it's so smooth and tasty. Perfect warm weather beer.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 00:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

it is. and that red-temperature indicator on the back is key!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 01:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

König Ludwig Weissbier is majorly tasty, if a bit pricey.

I recently tried this weird Belgian beer, "La Chouffe." Unpasteurized, 8% and quite good. (Although the floaty yeast cultures were somewhat of a turn-off)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I've had La Chouffe - very nice. There are so many good belgian beers it's amazing.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I just remembered I have a beer question:

In Mexico I tried Bohemia (regular, not dark) and it was fantastic - at the moment I thought it was one of the best beers I'd ever tried.

Recently I tried some Bohemia in a U.S. Mexican place and it was meh. Is it possible I was getting a different "export" version, or that the transit did something to the beer?

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Man...I have had so much "skunky" imported beer, could that be it?

On a related note, what do you do when your beer is obviously off and you've already drank a couple? Can you take the rest back to the store.?

;)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Oh yeah, I went back to Dieu, but no Aphro... was available. I didn't get a chance to ask when/if it was coming back... next time! Maybe I'll go tonight, I would like to dig into my new book and my house smells like cat piss and I am not currently poor.

Will M., Tuesday, 12 June 2007 18:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh man! I didn't see that you guys were talking about Biere D'Achouffe. I thought it was a Quebecois beer for so long! True story. Apparently the first place they started exporting to was Quebec! It is very delicious. I don't remember finding any little floaters, though...

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 19:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Response from Dieu du Ciel to two questions I asked via e-mail:

Hello Will,

Thanks you for your comments. It is much appreciated.

1-) We brew the Aphrodisiaque only 2 or 3 times a year. The next batch
will probably be avaible something like next september.

2-) Yes, it's true, we are in the process of building up a bottling
plant in St-Jérôme. There will also be a pub there. We hope to be able
to sell our first bottles at the end of July.

Cheers!
[dude's name removed by me]

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 21:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

currently - harviestoun Butter and Twisted is amazinhg, but we've just come back from North East France (ie very near the Belgian border and lots of Flemish beer-making tradition) and have been loving L'angelus which is beer's swankiest bottle I fear, gold foil and everything. Also Maredsous, Amadeus (lemon flavoured, should be wrong but oh so right) and god's own beer - Orval.

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

erm that's bitter and twisted of course

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

When alcohol content is shown on U.S. beer, it is often labelled by weight. Since alcohol is lighter than water, this can leave the mistaken impression that U.S. beer has much less alcohol, on average, than Canadian beer. A 3.2% beer in the U.S. (by weight) would be equivalent to a 4% beer in Canada (by volume).

Wikipedia I LOVE YOU. Did anyone know this? It boggles the mind! WHY?!

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

let's have a sesh

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

link?

dan m, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

my girl friend brought me a 6 pack of Hitachino Nest White Ale. Pretty good stuff. nice floral aromas ,perfect for a hot summer day. i think it's kind of pricey though

carne asada, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

link, sorry: Canadian Beer

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Apparently they have Aphrodisiaque in now. And I'm destitute poor and going away for the weekend! NOOOOO!

Will M., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Recommend some beer. Not too heavy, not too wheaty, crisp and refreshing in the style of Tsing Tsao or similar.

Also recommend some beers like Paulaner or the white Kronenberg with the fruity taste whose name escapes me.

I am in the mood for trying different beers.

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Dude, Zywiec

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(re: light, crisp, refreshing, not wheaty)

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I was at the nashville beer fest and the best thing there was a homebrewed bock that they ran out of by my second go-round. After a while though all you care about is that the beer is cold, because it's nearly august, and you're outdoors in nashville.

I think I might have talked my dad into getting a 30-gallon kit from Boot Lager. (ha ha, "boot lager")

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I also finally made myself a michelada with a little kosher salt on top of a can of tecate with a lime in it. not half bad, if you don't mind a bit of foamy foam foam.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Sundar, have you tried Flying Bison? I can't quite remember which bars serve it (I think the Ulrich's, but they have closed, I think). I miss it dearly.

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I swore by Aviator Red (which you can get at Wegman's) for a while. I still think it's good but have gone off it a bit. Are there other good FB beers?

I wanted to make it to Dieu du Ciel when I visited Mtl earlier in the month but couldn't make it. Drank a lot of St-Ambroise (and some nice micro wheats) instead.

Sundar, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

They have seasonal beers (which I can remember the name of), that friends would bring me in growlers. I never managed to locate the brewery, which apparently is on the West Side (on Niagara, maybe?). Anyway, I remember enjoying the summer and winter ales quite a bit.

Available in Wegmans!? Ahh! This was not so when I lived there! I love you, Wegmans!

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Dude, Zywiec"

One of the benefits of my area of London filling up with large numbers of young eastern Europeans is the availablity in the cornershops of excellent Polish beers at ridiculously cheap prices.

Zywiec is one of the better ones, at about £1 a bottle. The dark lagers especailly are a revelation.

bham, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Saku from Estonia is pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Saku or Saku Kuld, anyway. The dark variety has that soy saucey aftertaste I can't get with.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

is this a joke? heh...I don't get it if so. is it that unusual that I ask about trying new beers?

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I had a Saku Porter that had a weird aftertaste, that was probably the same one.

Wheats: Last night I was drinking Sprecher Hefe Weiss, which was all right.
Non-Wheats: Last night I was also drinking New Holland Mad Hatter, which was goddamn awesome.

dan m, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I guess I am in the dark :/ I thought you were still teetotalling because of your stuffed-upedness-in-the-cabesa.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

haha whoops, that was 2018... lollin'

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

that brother soigne was prob the last time i had hibiscus anything!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

had a can of mirror universe from state fair coop the other day. WOW. hazy ipa nectar. loved the hint of pine/dank going on behind the subdued tropical (pineapple and something else. maybe mango?) backbone. A+

― The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Thursday, May 2, 2019 9:26 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink.

yeah, it's one of the best IPAs they've come up with, after their collab with Modern Times called Spirit Foul

speaking of fair state, one of their more popular offerings is a hibiscus sour

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

on the surplus product front: my favorite mpls booze store seems to always have leftovers that they put on mad sale—4 packs of Insight and Fair State that are usualy $8-9 marked 2-for-$6 and shit like that, I love it

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

and there are still bottles of CBS on the shelf there marked down to $22 from $24, I still won't pay that much

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

hibiscus in sour form sounds like something i'd try! xpost
and holy shit @ 2 for 6. in calif. a $4 can is not unreasonable

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The Modern Times monthly special release* cans are $12/4pack which are my usual go-to (so long as they are IPAs notsomuch the other styles), but considering their uh... financing strategy, not sure how much longer that price point will exist.

*scroll down to bottom: http://www.moderntimesbeer.com/beer/release-calendar

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Untappd Festival this past weekend seems very Fyre Festival-esque:

12,500 attendees in an outdoor football stadium during the middle of a severe thunder/hail storm.... good read.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article230039404.html

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 6 May 2019 03:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The event proved so popular in advance that organizers tweeted Friday night only 30 tickets remained. All tickets eventually sold, according to the event’s website. Organizers limited the crowd to 12,500.

this is a really strange way of saying "the event sold out"

call all destroyer, Monday, 6 May 2019 03:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

lol my friends brought some salted nut roll ale to a party last night. I had a sip, it wasn’t awful but I don’t think I could drink much more.

Really into the Bauhaus hazy pale that I tried the other day.

JoeStork, Monday, 6 May 2019 05:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

dogfish head is merging with boston beer

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 May 2019 21:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

#beerintheoldera

can't remember the last time I've had a beer from either brewery, an eternity for sure.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 9 May 2019 22:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i'm sure i've had a sam summer within the past year. there are still plenty of places around here where sam is the best draft option.

but i haven't seriously considered drinking a DFH beer in years.

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 May 2019 00:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've got to admit, as much as I like all the excellent beer tiny brewers are putting out there, it's super frustrating that their small scale self distro model means you've only got a tiny window of opportunity - from an hour to maybe 24 hours at the absolute max - to snag any of their excellent beers before they disappear. Hop Butcher is a favorite of mine, and they seem to release an excellent new NEIPA weekly. If you are not on the ball and flexible, you've really got no shot at most of them, which the brewery announces over social media. Today, I was able to grab a pack of Blazed Orange, a sweet NEIPA with orange and vanilla, for the first time. But no sooner do I get home when I get a social media alert from *another* small brewer that their delivery just arrived at the same store I was just at.

I think it's cool that these guys are all so active on social media, and generally seem to be making an effort to get as much beer as they can out to as many places as possible, helping people find it as needed. But it's become downright exhausting to even try to keep up.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 20:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That's exactly why I stopped any pretense of trying to keep up. Whatever happens to be on the shelves when I hit the store, I'm sure I'll find something already known to be a surefire winner or something that looks interesting to try. Am I missing out on potentially great beers? Of course, but it is so damned exhausting and unless you are someone with a ton of free time, quick access to a vehicle and plenty of patience to pore over social media, well, it's kind of a fool's errand anyway.

Which isn't to knock anyone itt, but it just go to be so stressful. The shelves are packed with great stuff! I'm not going to chase down a truck.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 May 2019 20:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

^ That's pretty much my operating principle lately, and I got lucky last weekend and found some Parabola right on the shelves at a Trader Joe's.

nickn, Friday, 10 May 2019 20:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, you can often just stumble on some great stuff too!

Speaking of which, I was really surprised by how much KBS is still sitting in stacks and stacks at the local Binny's. They really cranked that up this year.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The shelves around Chicago are fortunately packed with all sorts of good stuff you can find on any given day, and I am extremely grateful for that. But many of my favorite beers as of late don't hang around very long and require some hustle, in addition to the aforementioned. It's kind of a shame, because I've shared them with friends, from big beer fans to just casual beer fans, and reaction is almost always super positive followed by the question: where can I get this? And I have to tell them, well, you can't. To the casual beer drinker friend that doesn't even compute.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xpost I want to say last year was the first year I saw KBS all over the place. And Hopslam. And BCBS. This year is I think the first time I've seen Zombie Dust just collecting zombie dust.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

There's also no real standard to the hustle, even at Binny's. Some locations just put stuff on the shelf, some keep it in back and make you ask for it, some will take your name and hold it until you get there. For folks here, Moreno's in Little Village might be the coolest spot for craft beer releases. Maybe it's because they specialize in tequila and their neighborhood beer clientele favors pretty standard stuff, but their craft beer guys are super awesome and helpful.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

we even get heady topper in philly now and you don't want to line up just get to the store within 24 hrs and some cans can be yours

Mordy, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ninjas vs unicorns always in stock - stuff i traded for multiple times bc i liked it so much. really the game changed for me when jai lai was suddenly always in stock now it's all gravy. hill farmstead on tap last week. pliny the elder + younger at my local beershop for their anniversary. i used to have to go monks if i wanted some russian river.

Mordy, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I do have to say that being able to pick up Jai Alai at Jewel when grocery shopping is a nice benefit.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Jai Alai is still being brewed somewhere else right? North Carolina?

Ninja Vs. Unicorn is such a good, strong go-to, but don't you dare look at the Pipeworks website and see all the unique and cool stuff that doesn't get distribution out of their brew house!

Speaking of which, I was able to get a couple of cans of their extremely hard to find Ninja vs Unicorn vs Haze, their version of an NEIPA. And they have a collaboration with Hop Butcher at some places tonight, though I assume I will never get to taste that.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ironically my response to the distro explosion has been to buy beer from fewer breweries than ever. i'm down to like 5 brands i buy regularly.

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Every time I get a rhythm going with regulars a bunch of newbies crash the scene and my priorities or tastes shift. I'm just super glad anywhere I go I can get a great beer from Revolution, or Half Acre, or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

my london beers are partizan and kernel. fuck the rest. howling hops sometimes. i got cloudwater a few times but i'm too broke these days. BERMONDSEY BIG UP YRSEL

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've been really diving into Sketchbook lately, they have so much good stuff.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I always see them but have never really tried! See also: Brickstone, Heretic, Une Annee/Hubbard's Cave, Off Color, etc ad infinitum.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm partial to Sketchbook because it's walking distance from my house, but even without that their Insufficient Clearance Hazy IPA would be one of my go-tos. A lot of folks like their Orange Door double dry hopped IPA, but I'm partial to the Night Game DIPA with honey.

But their seasonal brews are what I've been dialing in on, been enjoying the Turbulence imperial stout and Ripe Now farmstand porter in particular.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've never had anything by Corridor, but they and their brew pub on Southport are supposed to be great.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 22:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah if anything I'm seeing huge softening in the market and there are TONS of incredible beers sitting on shelves, things that were considered whales even a few years ago just gathering dust at local groceries. We just got Cycle & Fremont barrel aged adjunct stouts in regular distro, the market is insanely saturated.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I guess I'm saying I haven't felt less inspired to "chase" anything as I have in a very long time, yet still having access to amazing beers...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

...like arguably better access on current Whole Foods shelves than when I was chasing/trading for brewery-only beers.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My wife is in advertising and Miller is a big client. Apparently the fear of a beer bust is real. Young people apparently don't drink much beer anymore, at least not as much as they used to, and they apparently don't go to bars as much anymore, either. Their tastes have taken a turn toward the more bang for your buck spirits or even cannabis.

My wife did offer a good counter when I asked, why, when all these great craft beers are available, anyone would want Coors or Miller or Bud. And she said that when you just want to hang with friends and drink, at a party, or at a game, or a picnic on a hot day, or whatever, these craft beers are just too intense and filling. You can only have a couple of them. She has a point, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2019 22:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've noticed "Mexican lager" is the latest style all the indies are jumping on to. I wonder if this is a response to that.

nickn, Friday, 10 May 2019 23:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

session piszen

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2019 23:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The shelves around Chicago are fortunately packed with all sorts of good stuff you can find on any given day, and I am extremely grateful for that. But many of my favorite beers as of late don't hang around very long and require some hustle, in addition to the aforementioned. It's kind of a shame, because I've shared them with friends, from big beer fans to just casual beer fans, and reaction is almost always super positive followed by the question: where can I get this? And I have to tell them, well, you can't. To the casual beer drinker friend that doesn't even compute.

― Josh in Chicago

it's the fucking holofoil cover approach to beer, i think

i heard about pliny the elder something like eight years before i ever had the chance to drink one. it was a pretty good beer, but it was also, you know, a beer. the amount of effort one had to expend to get one was far greater than the actual quality of the beer in question

i'm not surprised kids aren't into all this beer shit because a side effect of the scarcity/rarity based approach to beer fandom is that shit gets expensive. god only knows how a millennial could afford 13 dollar bottles of beer on a regular basis

i get the miller light drinkers and i don't. yeah, you can get a six pack for the price of one of these beers, but i'd rather just drink one of these fancy beers! i feel like it gets one about as drunk. maybe it's the lowered tolerance from the antidepressants, but one pint is pretty much all i ever want to drink on a given day.

beer also suffers i think from this delusion that one has to have the ABSOLUTE BEST whatever one has. even if KBS or 120 Minute or Zombie Dust WERE the Best Beers Ever, the idea that one would go to that much effort for a beer that's probably at best a marginal improvement of whatever local beer you haven't heard of at the local beer shop or growler place is, i'd argue, a poor way of maximizing enjoyment. i drink lots of pretty good beers that i buy because i like the label.

Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Saturday, 11 May 2019 00:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've noticed "Mexican lager" is the latest style all the indies are jumping on to. I wonder if this is a response to that.

― nickn, Friday, May 10, 2019 7:02 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the story i've heard is that craft brewers are targeting lite/mexican lager skus because stores are so saturated with craft stuff that there's no more shelf space to go after.

i have no stats to back it up but my sense is that taprooms/destination breweries will be just fine with younger consumers. people will buy less but they'll buy a more premium product. as a brewery you better have an amazing product or a really smart business plan. night shift in mass is a great example of a place that makes good beer not great beer, but they built a huge taproom, created a distro company, marketed the hell out of a light lager, and basically wormed their way into being omnipresent around here.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 May 2019 01:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My wife says according to their (the companies') market research, Mexican lagers are akin to American session beers, lower alcohol, less filling - like Miller, etc. - which is what's sending people that way.

yeah, you can get a six pack for the price of one of these beers, but i'd rather just drink one of these fancy beers!

That's more or less exactly what I always say. Or, as my friend and I were discussing the other day, who cares if you can physically down more cheap beers if you don't want more than one because the beer isn't that good? If you choose your beer based on how much of it you can physically tolerate vs. the taste and such ...

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 May 2019 02:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I’m in Chicago for the weekend and in the past this would mean a quest for exotic beers and now means maybe I’ll hit the Binnys a couple blocks away if I have a chance. There are tons of good beers at home in MI and how the hell am I going to decide which of 50 ipas I should buy?

For me cheap lagers are kind of like having a barley and hops flavored LaCroix when I’m thirsty and it’s hot or I’m outside grilling or feeling devious walking the dog around on a summer night while sneaking a beer or drinking it with ice and Thai food

joygoat, Saturday, 11 May 2019 04:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

fwiw that is exactly how French people drink beer

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've got the opposite problem where I live in England: no access to a regular supply at all. I have to drive a half-hour to the nearest decent beer shop, who are also reliant on spotty distribution, or I go to one of the big supermarkets and hope for the best (which, usually, isn't 'best' at all). I even went as far as trying a Beer52 subscription but that didn't last long. I've got a shelf full of beers I'll never drink, made from wild hog pizzle and guava halves.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ironically my response to the distro explosion has been to buy beer from fewer breweries than ever. i'm down to like 5 brands i buy regularly.

― call all destroyer, Friday, May 10, 2019 4:22 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Same. I barely buy anything made outside of NE Minneapolis anymore, let alone outside of the Twin Cities.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

all I want is Peroni lately

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Ended up drinking at Eris and Aleman in Chicago this afternoon and buying six packs of Gumballhead (which I’ve had before) and Zombie Dust (which I have not), a four pack of Dovetail Lager (for sushi purposes) plus some singles from Brickstone, 18th Street and Half Acre.

joygoat, Sunday, 12 May 2019 00:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Speaking of craft "Mexican lagers", I like the Sierraveza from Sierra Nevada. For me, it's more about something that pairs well with food, especially spicy food. Drinking a bitter hoppy beer with food is not a good experience for me usually. Victoria is another good one, though that's a real Mexican lager.

o. nate, Sunday, 12 May 2019 01:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

sure but why not pay more just to know it was made by dudes with beards and sleeve tats?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 12 May 2019 02:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Heh. Actually the only reason I'd buy a craft version was if I had reason to believe it was fresher.

o. nate, Sunday, 12 May 2019 02:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

@UK ppl there is also UK beer in the new era

seandalai, Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:23 (thirty-six minutes ago) Permalink


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