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What new brews have you been trying? I just had my first Sinebrychoff (Koff) Porter IV, a Finnish beer, and my first taste of Scandinavian darks. It's quite nice, remarkably smooth and drinkable for a dark with 7.2% alc content. Almost a dark chocolate flavour but not in a chocolate stout way and not with any lingering bitterness.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

Last night I drank a Widmeyer Hefeweizen, which I found meh, and a Maresdous 8, which was very tasty in the tradition of tasty Belgian strong ales. A bit on the sweeter side of what I like but not over the line.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, I'll keep an eye out for that. I've been meaning to start exploring Belgian beers. I was putting it off till I'd tried every English stout but I should probably start sooner.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

It's almost summer! Time to put the stouts away!

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, I had something called Sunset Wheat the other night which tasted like orange and was surprisingly good considering that fact.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

nooooooooooooooooo!!!

(I'm assuming you're talking about Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat, which I declared a vendetta against because it is the single least-pleasant beer I have ever had)

bernard snowy, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

sundar iirc you are in OTT or MTL? where are you getting these amazing beers from in whichever of those two cities you're in?

if you are from neither of those places i apologize, i just remember you saying it once or something. i may be making it up.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

I'm from Ottawa (and lived in Mtl 2001-2002) but I've been living in Buffalo NY for almost 2 years now.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Where exactly?

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

BTW if near West Flanders: Should have tried the Brugse Zot!

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

(I would imagine that at least Mtl should have good places for this? I couldn't help you though. I drank Colt 45 from the dep when I lived there. Ah, callow youth.)

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair, I haven't really looked past my local deps, but the few bars I've found that have bigger selections were pretty disappointing... one place that was recommended highly as a place with a bunch of beers had that greek beer whose name I forget as the rarest one. mythos?

i'll have to check ch0whound or something.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Let me know if you find (or have had) Dieu du Ciel Aphrodisiaque. The ratebeer.com folks rank it as the best sweet stout on earth but I haven't found any around here.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

yes. mythos. it's not bad!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

I think I am going to drop by Dieu du Ciel tonight, actually. Everything they have is actually to a pretty high standard... the reason you probably haven't found it is because they aren't actually bottling any of their brews yet. Apparently they're opening another brewery north of the city though, and they're going to start bottling there! I can't remember where I heard that. I read it today after doing a bit of ch0whound research. I will see if I can talk to the owners or something tonight (I'm going early so hopefully the place will be near empty, I'm not much of one for the crowd there). I've not had the aphrodisiaque, don't know if it's "in season" (they only brew most things a couple times a year), but if they have it I'll give you a review!

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

Where exactly?

Brussels. and Paris, but that's obviously not in Belgium. May I also suggest that if you do go to France and decide to try the local brews, Kronenbourg tastes like piss. stay away.

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

I've developed a fondness for Zywiec lately - I don't even usually like lagers much but it's so smooth and tasty. Perfect warm weather beer.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

it is. and that red-temperature indicator on the back is key!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

König Ludwig Weissbier is majorly tasty, if a bit pricey.

I recently tried this weird Belgian beer, "La Chouffe." Unpasteurized, 8% and quite good. (Although the floaty yeast cultures were somewhat of a turn-off)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, I've had La Chouffe - very nice. There are so many good belgian beers it's amazing.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

I just remembered I have a beer question:

In Mexico I tried Bohemia (regular, not dark) and it was fantastic - at the moment I thought it was one of the best beers I'd ever tried.

Recently I tried some Bohemia in a U.S. Mexican place and it was meh. Is it possible I was getting a different "export" version, or that the transit did something to the beer?

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

Man...I have had so much "skunky" imported beer, could that be it?

On a related note, what do you do when your beer is obviously off and you've already drank a couple? Can you take the rest back to the store.?

;)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Oh yeah, I went back to Dieu, but no Aphro... was available. I didn't get a chance to ask when/if it was coming back... next time! Maybe I'll go tonight, I would like to dig into my new book and my house smells like cat piss and I am not currently poor.

Will M., Tuesday, 12 June 2007 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man! I didn't see that you guys were talking about Biere D'Achouffe. I thought it was a Quebecois beer for so long! True story. Apparently the first place they started exporting to was Quebec! It is very delicious. I don't remember finding any little floaters, though...

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Response from Dieu du Ciel to two questions I asked via e-mail:

Hello Will,

Thanks you for your comments. It is much appreciated.

1-) We brew the Aphrodisiaque only 2 or 3 times a year. The next batch
will probably be avaible something like next september.

2-) Yes, it's true, we are in the process of building up a bottling
plant in St-Jérôme. There will also be a pub there. We hope to be able
to sell our first bottles at the end of July.

Cheers!
[dude's name removed by me]

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

currently - harviestoun Butter and Twisted is amazinhg, but we've just come back from North East France (ie very near the Belgian border and lots of Flemish beer-making tradition) and have been loving L'angelus which is beer's swankiest bottle I fear, gold foil and everything. Also Maredsous, Amadeus (lemon flavoured, should be wrong but oh so right) and god's own beer - Orval.

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

erm that's bitter and twisted of course

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

When alcohol content is shown on U.S. beer, it is often labelled by weight. Since alcohol is lighter than water, this can leave the mistaken impression that U.S. beer has much less alcohol, on average, than Canadian beer. A 3.2% beer in the U.S. (by weight) would be equivalent to a 4% beer in Canada (by volume).

Wikipedia I LOVE YOU. Did anyone know this? It boggles the mind! WHY?!

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

let's have a sesh

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

link?

dan m, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

my girl friend brought me a 6 pack of Hitachino Nest White Ale. Pretty good stuff. nice floral aromas ,perfect for a hot summer day. i think it's kind of pricey though

carne asada, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/409121525_01915ec7ca.jpg

carne asada, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

link, sorry: Canadian Beer

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Apparently they have Aphrodisiaque in now. And I'm destitute poor and going away for the weekend! NOOOOO!

Will M., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

Recommend some beer. Not too heavy, not too wheaty, crisp and refreshing in the style of Tsing Tsao or similar.

Also recommend some beers like Paulaner or the white Kronenberg with the fruity taste whose name escapes me.

I am in the mood for trying different beers.

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

Dude, Zywiec

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

(re: light, crisp, refreshing, not wheaty)

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

I was at the nashville beer fest and the best thing there was a homebrewed bock that they ran out of by my second go-round. After a while though all you care about is that the beer is cold, because it's nearly august, and you're outdoors in nashville.

I think I might have talked my dad into getting a 30-gallon kit from Boot Lager. (ha ha, "boot lager")

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

I also finally made myself a michelada with a little kosher salt on top of a can of tecate with a lime in it. not half bad, if you don't mind a bit of foamy foam foam.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

Sundar, have you tried Flying Bison? I can't quite remember which bars serve it (I think the Ulrich's, but they have closed, I think). I miss it dearly.

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

I swore by Aviator Red (which you can get at Wegman's) for a while. I still think it's good but have gone off it a bit. Are there other good FB beers?

I wanted to make it to Dieu du Ciel when I visited Mtl earlier in the month but couldn't make it. Drank a lot of St-Ambroise (and some nice micro wheats) instead.

Sundar, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

They have seasonal beers (which I can remember the name of), that friends would bring me in growlers. I never managed to locate the brewery, which apparently is on the West Side (on Niagara, maybe?). Anyway, I remember enjoying the summer and winter ales quite a bit.

Available in Wegmans!? Ahh! This was not so when I lived there! I love you, Wegmans!

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

"Dude, Zywiec"

One of the benefits of my area of London filling up with large numbers of young eastern Europeans is the availablity in the cornershops of excellent Polish beers at ridiculously cheap prices.

Zywiec is one of the better ones, at about £1 a bottle. The dark lagers especailly are a revelation.

bham, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Saku from Estonia is pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Saku or Saku Kuld, anyway. The dark variety has that soy saucey aftertaste I can't get with.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

is this a joke? heh...I don't get it if so. is it that unusual that I ask about trying new beers?

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

I had a Saku Porter that had a weird aftertaste, that was probably the same one.

Wheats: Last night I was drinking Sprecher Hefe Weiss, which was all right.
Non-Wheats: Last night I was also drinking New Holland Mad Hatter, which was goddamn awesome.

dan m, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

I guess I am in the dark :/ I thought you were still teetotalling because of your stuffed-upedness-in-the-cabesa.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

I would try this.

Yerac, Monday, 24 June 2019 16:48 (five months ago) link

Switzerland update: for now, I'm drinking Feldschlösschen

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:06 (five months ago) link

I had some of this (hop water) at a tasting station in WF and it was pretty good, but $7/6-pack just seems like too much to pay for flavored water.

https://h2ops.com/

nickn, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:17 (five months ago) link

I feel like Deschutes is hardly a beer anyone covets/drinks/orders, but in this case, may I humbly request to never give them another dime:

A message to our fans: pic.twitter.com/c08YNC5cU8

— Deschutes Brewery (@DeschutesBeer) June 26, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:48 (five months ago) link

and nothing of value was lost

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 28 June 2019 04:11 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Hey @MattLaslo why couldn’t you stop this pic.twitter.com/pJRg08jG5d

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) August 10, 2019

JoeStork, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:35 (three months ago) link

New Glarus is usually pretty solid, even when they're getting weird, but ugh, the Break O’Day Juicy IPA was gross.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:20 (three months ago) link

xp I noticed similar things at the MN state fair last year… for some reason the fairgoers really love their specially-flavored beers, many of which sounded absolutely disgusting

I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 10 August 2019 19:51 (three months ago) link

I've been seeing a lot of rosé-style beers lately, haven't tried any.

And cherry seems to be the current fruit of choice with many breweries. I tried the Almanac cherry beer and didn't like it at all, had hopes that they could do it well because they do great fruit sours, but this seems to be aiming for the wine cooler crowd.

nickn, Saturday, 10 August 2019 20:39 (three months ago) link

Anybody had any Sybarite sour ales from Pretentious Barrel House in Columbus OH? My daughter and her friends are roadtripping and happen to be there right now, and she asked if I wanted her to bring me anything.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:04 (three months ago) link

OK I see Sybarite is just one of their cutesy names, along with Truculent, Neophytic, Derisive, Magnanimous, etc

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Saturday, 10 August 2019 23:11 (three months ago) link

hmmph

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2019/08/bells-brewery-will-release-low-calorie-light-hearted-ale-in-2020.html

tbh I'm still waiting to try the 2x version but I will likely buy the lite at least once

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:22 (three months ago) link

i'd be a lot more encouraged if this was coming in at like 4.2% instead of 3.7%. but most of the time with this style under 5% you just get hop water.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 August 2019 19:28 (three months ago) link

https://oct.co/articles/regular-beer

When everything is outlandish, when rebellious beers become the rule and not the exception, how is it possible to stand out? The answer, increasingly, is for breweries to stop going wild and start embracing their mild side. To cut through the double dry-hopped clutter, breweries are releasing mass-appeal lagers with humdrum names and often humble branding, harking back to the simpler days when beer was just beer—a one-size-inebriates-all lager sold good and cold.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:59 (three months ago) link

leave it to those guys to write an entire article that doesn't say why this is actually happening (competition for shelf space and skus among craft brands)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 19:31 (three months ago) link

I live in the SF bay area. Most of the regular people I know who drink beer drink local (craft?) beer and don't go in for the flavored stuff except maybe at beer tastings or whatever. Fort Point "KSA" (Kölsch Style Ale) and Export seems to be in every cooler these last two years. Their design might be partially to credit for the popularity - I don't know. It's good beer. I feel like I spread it around amongst my friends because it's fairly cheap at Trader Joe's and CostCo. If you get a chance, give some a try.

Speaking of design, I picked up a 4-pack of some random Pilsners and a "cloudy" lager the other day that I'm excited to try. I like the designs, especially the two on the left.

https://i.imgur.com/cPYUOmx.jpg

beard papa, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:39 (three months ago) link

I enjoyed a Rainier Tallboy a week ago

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:43 (three months ago) link

faction makes tasty beers.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:48 (three months ago) link

I like the designs of the two on the left too. Designs are getting too cheeseball that I start subconsciously thinking the beer is careless (shitty) and overpriced. I like drinking odd craft beer if it's on draft but when I am in the store I really just want a can of old speckled hen, guinness or boddingtons.

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:48 (three months ago) link

night shift's nite lite is the first local craft beer that really took a shot at macro shelf space and price points. it's done well and i think it's pretty tasty. one of their best labels too:

https://nightshiftfamily.com/wp-content/uploads/elementor/thumbs/nite-lite-o04spp70jx9evyz5qe3qow6eanasbz3lnsm96tbmd8.jpg

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:00 (three months ago) link

Any recommendations for LA breweries or beer centric bars?

calstars, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:11 (three months ago) link

Really like that Nite Lite label.

beard papa, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:12 (three months ago) link

I go to sunset beer company every time I'm in the area. They have a handful of usu interesting things on tap and the entire world in refrigerated goodies that are very nicely priced and they don't charge to open bottles/cans or any such bullshit.
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one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:17 (three months ago) link

Any recommendations for LA breweries or beer centric bars?

― calstars, Tuesday, August 20, 2019 4:11 PM (six minutes ago)

Highland Park Brewery (Chinatown) or The Hermosillo (Highland Park) are my favorites. Beachwood is good but it's pretty far unless you're way out on the west side.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:19 (three months ago) link

Thanks bros

calstars, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:30 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Trying Double Two hearted. Not as hot/boozy as Hopslam, more like a classic west coaster but still that traditional Midwest Centennial hop thing. Classic Bell's selling 11% abv beer in six pack bottles.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 20 September 2019 00:07 (two months ago) link

i'll have to find a single of that this weekend

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 September 2019 00:15 (two months ago) link

I had two. It's strong shit for sure. Some sips tasted more boozy than others, but you can tell the two hearted is in there.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 20 September 2019 02:21 (two months ago) link

I'd gotten used to drinking all these DIPA monsters, but they're expensive so I've taken a break from buying big beers. But the great thing about going from big beers to little beers is that little beers go down eeeeeeeeeasy. Very refreshing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 September 2019 02:42 (two months ago) link

I saw double two hearted in Chicago last weekend and was a little sad I hadn’t actually seen it anywhere in Michigan yet. But I haven’t looked at actual beer stores yet; Binnys selection beats every grocery store everywhere.

Also as an aside I think Chicago might be the best place for buying beer

joygoat, Friday, 20 September 2019 03:46 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

wow the guy who runs Founders is a dickhead: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/22/craft-brewery-manager-cant-confirm-black-employees-race-discrimination-lawsuit/

rob, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 12:34 (one month ago) link

That's nuts. So the guy is such an asshole that, as a defense, he refuses to even acknowledge his former employee is black, as if that excuses saying and doing racist things?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:37 (one month ago) link

Given the blowback I'm seeing on Twitter over the past few days, looks like those bottles of KBS that are still sitting on shelves are going to be sitting around even longer.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:46 (one month ago) link

Man, those things sat around so long last year I'm not sure they ever left. They just stayed on the shelves.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:54 (one month ago) link

yeah my local is still selling them for $6 a bottle and they're quite dusty

Detroit Metro Times coverage of the story is also worth reading

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:06 (one month ago) link

I rarely buy national brands anymore, but Founders was one I still respected and purchased. Not anymore.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:55 (one month ago) link

Backwoods Bastard is my favorite not-too-expensive barrel aged stout, looks like I'm going to have to find another.

nickn, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:36 (one month ago) link

Central Waters has several big beers to gladly fill that niche... (although I don't think Backwoods Bastard is a stout, more an old ale/wee heavy?)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:40 (one month ago) link

Scotch ale?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:41 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I just guessed at stout.

I'm not sure CW is around here (L.A.). I've liked Boulevard's barrel aged beers, hope they're not racist.

nickn, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:42 (one month ago) link

Their website says Scotch Ale.

nickn, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:44 (one month ago) link

oh if you're in LA try Alesmith's Wee Heavy. Not sure it comes in smaller formats (yet).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:45 (one month ago) link

I just did an impromptu one man show of the excerpt from that deposition. It's amazing.

Yerac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:46 (one month ago) link

xp: http://alesmith.com/beers/barrel-aged-wee-heavy/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:46 (one month ago) link

xp: lol

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:46 (one month ago) link

There's a glut of barrel aged stouts etc right now, just one of a few reasons (plus price, plus increased production) that KBS sits around.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:49 (one month ago) link

Their lawyers response to the press doesn't seem to help much either

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHarOaYXYAANxSj.png

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:50 (one month ago) link

the Michigan beer scene is so bad about this, remember this whole shitshow? https://www.metrotimes.com/table-and-bar/archives/2019/02/13/great-lakes-brewing-news-sexist-parody-starts-brouhaha

probably all beer scenes tbh smh

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:36 (one month ago) link

Lolled hard here

I can't wait for the upcoming release of Founders' I Don't Know If It's Black Ale

— cmitown ... but spooky 👻 (@cmitown) October 22, 2019

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 16:18 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Was in the store and came across Revolution's latest annual fruity barrel aged stout, Deth by Plums. I'm sure it's good, but I think it was $36 for a 4-pack of 12oz cans, and I just couldn't do it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:10 (three weeks ago) link


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