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What new brews have you been trying? I just had my first Sinebrychoff (Koff) Porter IV, a Finnish beer, and my first taste of Scandinavian darks. It's quite nice, remarkably smooth and drinkable for a dark with 7.2% alc content. Almost a dark chocolate flavour but not in a chocolate stout way and not with any lingering bitterness.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Last night I drank a Widmeyer Hefeweizen, which I found meh, and a Maresdous 8, which was very tasty in the tradition of tasty Belgian strong ales. A bit on the sweeter side of what I like but not over the line.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, I'll keep an eye out for that. I've been meaning to start exploring Belgian beers. I was putting it off till I'd tried every English stout but I should probably start sooner.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

It's almost summer! Time to put the stouts away!

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I had something called Sunset Wheat the other night which tasted like orange and was surprisingly good considering that fact.

Hurting 2, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

nooooooooooooooooo!!!

(I'm assuming you're talking about Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat, which I declared a vendetta against because it is the single least-pleasant beer I have ever had)

bernard snowy, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

sundar iirc you are in OTT or MTL? where are you getting these amazing beers from in whichever of those two cities you're in?

if you are from neither of those places i apologize, i just remember you saying it once or something. i may be making it up.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm from Ottawa (and lived in Mtl 2001-2002) but I've been living in Buffalo NY for almost 2 years now.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

When I was in Belgium last week I totally was rocking all the kriek. But not the Hoegaarden (because that's utterly disgusting). I also had a Trappist (Chimay Bleu) which was pretty intense at 9% ABV

Where exactly?

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

BTW if near West Flanders: Should have tried the Brugse Zot!

nathalie, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

(I would imagine that at least Mtl should have good places for this? I couldn't help you though. I drank Colt 45 from the dep when I lived there. Ah, callow youth.)

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

To be fair, I haven't really looked past my local deps, but the few bars I've found that have bigger selections were pretty disappointing... one place that was recommended highly as a place with a bunch of beers had that greek beer whose name I forget as the rarest one. mythos?

i'll have to check ch0whound or something.

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Let me know if you find (or have had) Dieu du Ciel Aphrodisiaque. The ratebeer.com folks rank it as the best sweet stout on earth but I haven't found any around here.

Sundar, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

yes. mythos. it's not bad!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I am going to drop by Dieu du Ciel tonight, actually. Everything they have is actually to a pretty high standard... the reason you probably haven't found it is because they aren't actually bottling any of their brews yet. Apparently they're opening another brewery north of the city though, and they're going to start bottling there! I can't remember where I heard that. I read it today after doing a bit of ch0whound research. I will see if I can talk to the owners or something tonight (I'm going early so hopefully the place will be near empty, I'm not much of one for the crowd there). I've not had the aphrodisiaque, don't know if it's "in season" (they only brew most things a couple times a year), but if they have it I'll give you a review!

Will M., Monday, 28 May 2007 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Where exactly?

Brussels. and Paris, but that's obviously not in Belgium. May I also suggest that if you do go to France and decide to try the local brews, Kronenbourg tastes like piss. stay away.

Stevie D, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I've developed a fondness for Zywiec lately - I don't even usually like lagers much but it's so smooth and tasty. Perfect warm weather beer.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

it is. and that red-temperature indicator on the back is key!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

König Ludwig Weissbier is majorly tasty, if a bit pricey.

I recently tried this weird Belgian beer, "La Chouffe." Unpasteurized, 8% and quite good. (Although the floaty yeast cultures were somewhat of a turn-off)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I've had La Chouffe - very nice. There are so many good belgian beers it's amazing.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I just remembered I have a beer question:

In Mexico I tried Bohemia (regular, not dark) and it was fantastic - at the moment I thought it was one of the best beers I'd ever tried.

Recently I tried some Bohemia in a U.S. Mexican place and it was meh. Is it possible I was getting a different "export" version, or that the transit did something to the beer?

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Man...I have had so much "skunky" imported beer, could that be it?

On a related note, what do you do when your beer is obviously off and you've already drank a couple? Can you take the rest back to the store.?

;)

Michael Servetus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Oh yeah, I went back to Dieu, but no Aphro... was available. I didn't get a chance to ask when/if it was coming back... next time! Maybe I'll go tonight, I would like to dig into my new book and my house smells like cat piss and I am not currently poor.

Will M., Tuesday, 12 June 2007 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man! I didn't see that you guys were talking about Biere D'Achouffe. I thought it was a Quebecois beer for so long! True story. Apparently the first place they started exporting to was Quebec! It is very delicious. I don't remember finding any little floaters, though...

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Response from Dieu du Ciel to two questions I asked via e-mail:

Hello Will,

Thanks you for your comments. It is much appreciated.

1-) We brew the Aphrodisiaque only 2 or 3 times a year. The next batch
will probably be avaible something like next september.

2-) Yes, it's true, we are in the process of building up a bottling
plant in St-Jérôme. There will also be a pub there. We hope to be able
to sell our first bottles at the end of July.

Cheers!
[dude's name removed by me]

Will M., Friday, 15 June 2007 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

currently - harviestoun Butter and Twisted is amazinhg, but we've just come back from North East France (ie very near the Belgian border and lots of Flemish beer-making tradition) and have been loving L'angelus which is beer's swankiest bottle I fear, gold foil and everything. Also Maredsous, Amadeus (lemon flavoured, should be wrong but oh so right) and god's own beer - Orval.

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

erm that's bitter and twisted of course

Porkpie, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

When alcohol content is shown on U.S. beer, it is often labelled by weight. Since alcohol is lighter than water, this can leave the mistaken impression that U.S. beer has much less alcohol, on average, than Canadian beer. A 3.2% beer in the U.S. (by weight) would be equivalent to a 4% beer in Canada (by volume).

Wikipedia I LOVE YOU. Did anyone know this? It boggles the mind! WHY?!

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

let's have a sesh

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

link?

dan m, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

my girl friend brought me a 6 pack of Hitachino Nest White Ale. Pretty good stuff. nice floral aromas ,perfect for a hot summer day. i think it's kind of pricey though

carne asada, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/409121525_01915ec7ca.jpg

carne asada, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

link, sorry: Canadian Beer

Will M., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Apparently they have Aphrodisiaque in now. And I'm destitute poor and going away for the weekend! NOOOOO!

Will M., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Recommend some beer. Not too heavy, not too wheaty, crisp and refreshing in the style of Tsing Tsao or similar.

Also recommend some beers like Paulaner or the white Kronenberg with the fruity taste whose name escapes me.

I am in the mood for trying different beers.

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Dude, Zywiec

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

(re: light, crisp, refreshing, not wheaty)

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I was at the nashville beer fest and the best thing there was a homebrewed bock that they ran out of by my second go-round. After a while though all you care about is that the beer is cold, because it's nearly august, and you're outdoors in nashville.

I think I might have talked my dad into getting a 30-gallon kit from Boot Lager. (ha ha, "boot lager")

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I also finally made myself a michelada with a little kosher salt on top of a can of tecate with a lime in it. not half bad, if you don't mind a bit of foamy foam foam.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Sundar, have you tried Flying Bison? I can't quite remember which bars serve it (I think the Ulrich's, but they have closed, I think). I miss it dearly.

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I swore by Aviator Red (which you can get at Wegman's) for a while. I still think it's good but have gone off it a bit. Are there other good FB beers?

I wanted to make it to Dieu du Ciel when I visited Mtl earlier in the month but couldn't make it. Drank a lot of St-Ambroise (and some nice micro wheats) instead.

Sundar, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

They have seasonal beers (which I can remember the name of), that friends would bring me in growlers. I never managed to locate the brewery, which apparently is on the West Side (on Niagara, maybe?). Anyway, I remember enjoying the summer and winter ales quite a bit.

Available in Wegmans!? Ahh! This was not so when I lived there! I love you, Wegmans!

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dude, Zywiec"

One of the benefits of my area of London filling up with large numbers of young eastern Europeans is the availablity in the cornershops of excellent Polish beers at ridiculously cheap prices.

Zywiec is one of the better ones, at about £1 a bottle. The dark lagers especailly are a revelation.

bham, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Saku from Estonia is pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Saku or Saku Kuld, anyway. The dark variety has that soy saucey aftertaste I can't get with.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Ronan WTF?? This is truly a new era for you!

is this a joke? heh...I don't get it if so. is it that unusual that I ask about trying new beers?

Ronan, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I had a Saku Porter that had a weird aftertaste, that was probably the same one.

Wheats: Last night I was drinking Sprecher Hefe Weiss, which was all right.
Non-Wheats: Last night I was also drinking New Holland Mad Hatter, which was goddamn awesome.

dan m, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I am in the dark :/ I thought you were still teetotalling because of your stuffed-upedness-in-the-cabesa.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

new holland/night tripper imperial stout - boooooooze. this is fantastic tbh, i like bitter boozey ashy imperial stouts and this one also nails the right mouthfeel.

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:01 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a delightful byproduct of new holland distributing here is that 4-packs of this beer just showed up. best non-ba imperial stout i've had.

― call all destroyer, Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:23 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Throwback to five or six years ago, I am visiting my parents home in Michigan while they are not home and found my dad has a bottle of 2014 Night Tripper. Well, had. It's very good!

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2020 01:46 (one month ago) link

oh man, great find. i should see if this is still around anywhere although the distribution landscape of 2015 feels like a million years ago.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2020 02:25 (one month ago) link

Dear BitNE readers,

What is your favorite Winter Warmer?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 03:03 (one month ago) link

(...or is that style too "old era"?)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 03:03 (one month ago) link

Literally the only Christmasy winter beer I've ever wanted more than one of is Alpha Klaus, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't count.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2020 03:25 (one month ago) link

Phase Three here is introducing a "winter IPA," which I guess is their take on a winter ale or "winter warmer," which I did not even know was a thing but

https://tbn.ethershaft.engineering/what-is-a-winter-ale/

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2020 04:16 (one month ago) link

man i don't even know if i could go to a store and buy a winter warmer these days

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2020 04:24 (one month ago) link

Fremont (Seattle) releases an absolute beast annually named Bourbon Abonimable (aka B-bomb) and I've had some killer vintage ones from Capt. Lawrence (Hudson Valley, NY) & Kuhnhenn (Detroit, MI) this winter.

One of my locals made a winter warmer that I reluctantly bought a 4-pack of and I'm really enjoying it. Feels like I'm going against the grain for reals lol.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2020 04:47 (one month ago) link

i always get some of the boulevard nutcracker ale and really enjoy it, but i am not a winter warmer connoisseur.

circles, Thursday, 10 December 2020 05:04 (one month ago) link

My first was an Anchor Christmas ale maybe 20 years ago, and loved it that first time. But as I buy it nowadays, usually every year around this time, it is less and less a great thing.

nickn, Thursday, 10 December 2020 05:23 (one month ago) link

Years ago a friend of mine brought an entire case of Mad Elf (Tröegs' holiday belgian-style ale that's 11-12%) to a holiday party that was going on for hours and kept wondering why no one wanted to go near the stuff.

Joe Biden Shot My Dog - Vols. I-XL (PBKR), Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:13 (one month ago) link

Oof, 3 Floyds is permanently closing its Indiana taproom, though it doesn’t seem to affect their beer production.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:04 (one month ago) link

I'm not even sure what "closed permanently" means anymore. Basically "closed until further notice," I guess, because there's nothing to stop them from reopening once the pandemic passes, right? Anyway, there are murmurings that as one might expect more was going on than just the pandemic. They recently did a massive expansion, too, didn't they? Or had planned to? Hopefully this allows them to focus entirely on the beer and build the coffers back up until they figure out the next move.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:15 (one month ago) link

Aw, damn. I guess that explains the context for this tweet...

Not sure who needs to hear this, but when a brewery announces it is closing, and you feel it necessary to say how “their beer sucks anyways” - you, person sharing this thought with the world in this very particular moment, are the one that sucks. ✌️

— ABV Chicago (@ABVChicago) December 16, 2020

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:24 (one month ago) link

3 floyds starting to distribute to new markets isn't an amazing sign for them

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:04 (one month ago) link

FWIW I’ve noticed their stuff finally seems to be in stock locally, even Zombie Dust

frogbs, Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:06 (one month ago) link

xp so them spreading out is more like a desperate move?

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 17 December 2020 04:41 (one month ago) link

I had Upper Hands' BA stout tonight, it was slightly basic but also really good, much better than say dragon's milk

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 17 December 2020 04:42 (one month ago) link

i think entering a super-saturated new england market is a way to get a one-time bump but is not very sustainable. 3 floyds, toppling goliath, bells, founders, pipeworks, and one or two more largish brands now fight for like 1-2 fridge doors in the largest beer store near me. how's that going to go long term?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 December 2020 04:46 (one month ago) link

*largish midwestern brands

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 December 2020 04:46 (one month ago) link

xp makes sense

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 17 December 2020 04:48 (one month ago) link

@CAD the last few years in February we have been getting The Alchemist in distro (Heady Topper & Focal Banger).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 17 December 2020 13:30 (one month ago) link

I don't know how it works, but I get the impression sometimes it's as simple as a small brewery just taking a road trip and dropping stuff off, sort of an informal distribution. That's how I figure stuff like, say, Other Half makes it out here once in a while, or stuff like Hop Butcher here making it to other places. And these guys are, by and large, pretty small potatoes. Like, Pipeworks? How big can Pipeworks be? They do produce a lot of varieties of beer, but that's its own strategy: keep pumping out new stuff weekly lest you lose that coveted spot on the shelf.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:03 (one month ago) link

Why not just come out with a Barf Flavored IPA?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpdZEt2W4AUBtsS?format=jpg&name=large

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:37 (one month ago) link

lol I would actually try one of these. But yeah.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:38 (one month ago) link

four weeks pass...

3 floyds starting to distribute to new markets isn't an amazing sign for them

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 8:04 PM (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

really? i have been happy to have zombie dust in the nyc area

treeship., Thursday, 14 January 2021 01:54 (three days ago) link

sad to read on this thread they had to close their taproom. hopefully they open one day.

i came here to post about pills mafia by thin man brewing company in buffalo. the pilsner is a humble style, but when done right there is nothing crisper. this is so much better than a pilsner urquell but it hits the same notes, without the weird aftertaste of that one.

treeship., Thursday, 14 January 2021 01:56 (three days ago) link

xp it's great for you, the out of market consumer. it might not be great for them, business struggling to stay afloat.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 January 2021 01:59 (three days ago) link

@CAD you'd be surprised at what's starting to get national distribution these days.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 January 2021 02:04 (three days ago) link

lol i very much doubt it. tough times out there.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 January 2021 02:10 (three days ago) link

mikkeller closed down their new york city spot at citi field. i was crushed. one of my favorite summer spots

treeship., Thursday, 14 January 2021 02:12 (three days ago) link

I’m still struggling to understand how Three Floyds expanding their distribution is supposed to be a sign that they are about to go under. If this was some new brewery with their reach exceeding their grasp, I’d get it. But they’ve been around long enough and pretty slow to get to this point, so I have to imagine they have a little bit of a clue what they are doing. They’ve been expanding their facilities a lot on the last five years, so I feel like this has been the goal anyway.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:03 (three days ago) link

- noted brewery spends years selling at capacity to their midwestern market to the point where at one time their regular production beers were desirable in trades
- brewery expands, creates taproom, embarks on various other growth projects
- pandemic hits
- brewery closes taproom, lays off employees
- concurrently, brewery enters new, highly saturated markets with old-ish stock of regular production beers
- brewery enjoys cash flow from novelty purchasers who if they are anything like me bought one six-pack of zombie dust when it entered distribution and haven't really considered buying their beer since
- hmmm does this sound like a sustainable model?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:15 (three days ago) link

They closed their brewpub, not their giant brewing facility, afaik. I mean, there were cases of 3 Floyds in Costco last time I went, I assume they are doing OK making beer, just maybe not as well making burgers and pulled pork sandwiches.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:16 (three days ago) link

i'll check in with you guys later but the only reason in 2020 for a brewery of their size to drastically expand distribution is because it has excess stock and needs to try and move it.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:18 (three days ago) link

i saw this exact thing play out with smuttynose who was brewing at capacity and expanding to the midwest, until they weren't, got sold, and barely survived as a brand

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:19 (three days ago) link

I suspect the same thing is going on with Toppling Goliath, which is now in California.

nickn, Thursday, 14 January 2021 04:12 (three days ago) link

I posted this in the TJ's thread but is v. topical:

Toppling Goliath has been in California for a while, I mean they are even in Japan. I had a reasonably fresh Pseudo Sue can in Tokyo last autumn... for ~$10 though.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, December 6, 2020 12:25 AM (one month ago)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 January 2021 04:44 (three days ago) link

I hadn't seen them in SoCal until a couple months ago.

I tried the Pompeii IPA first, good but not superlative. Bought some Pseudo Sue after and I get the reputation, though tbh, I think there are as good beers out there.

nickn, Thursday, 14 January 2021 05:32 (three days ago) link

I don't know shit about 3Floyds other than it was a name 4 years ago and now no one gives a shit. So I trust cad's take.

there were cases of 3 Floyds in Costco last time I went, I assume they are doing OK making beer,

Having stock sitting around in big box stores is a bad sign, not a good sign.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:23 (three days ago) link

Not sitting around, recently added, afaict. I'd never seen it there before. But, like, most craft or craft-ish beer "sits around" on shelves, doesn't it? Anecdotally, the only stuff I see moving in noticeable numbers is the usual Bud/Miller/Coors stuff. However, my wife works with one of the big beer companies, and as I understand it beer sales are way down for everyone, for a variety of reasons, so I assume that's extra hard for the large craft breweries. But I have no idea.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:30 (three days ago) link

But, like, most craft or craft-ish beer "sits around" on shelves, doesn't it?

No, not ideally. Part of cad's point is their stuff previously sold out instantly; now, not so much.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:50 (three days ago) link

FYI, I've bought less than a case of beer in the last three years from a distributor/retail store. Everything is direct from a brewery these days.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:52 (three days ago) link

In my very limited experience, the only 3 Floyds stuff that ever sold out instantly was Zombie Dust, or at least locally that's the only one that was ever hard(er) to find. It's only the small or very limited stuff from any brewery that seems to vanish overnight. If there's a beer that I can literally always find on the shelves, then I assume to some extent it's been sitting around, if only compared to the stuff that *doesn't* sit around. But yeah, Zombie Dust was the only one that ever flew off shelves or was tougher to get, as far as I ever noticed, which seems more an exception than the rule. Bourbon County Stout (for example) used to fly off the shelves, too, but now it sits around as well, for months, and I don't think that's a sign that Goose Island is struggling. At the same time, like I said, all beer is struggling, so sure, it's possible 3 Floyds will go under or implode, like Ballast Point did.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:06 (three days ago) link

FFF and other "metal" beers seem passé at this point. Like I was at the store and saw their \m/WAR PIGS\m/ brand and wondered who was buying it these days.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:12 (three days ago) link

FYI, I've bought less than a case of beer in the last three years from a distributor/retail store. Everything is direct from a brewery these days.

― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:52 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah, this is a paradigm shift and it's bad news for a lot of the bigger craft breweries

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:17 (three days ago) link

Idk, anecdotal, obviously, but the two retail stores I hit up around me both say beer is flying off the shelves. They both do curbside pickup, delivery and a system where they list everything on the windows and do transactions from the door. Every time I've been there or walked past, there almost always is a line of 3-4 people waiting, even during weekday lunchtimes.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:22 (three days ago) link

My local hype brewery has gone from extremely long lines at their remote brewery location (100 minute drive outside of my city) to overnight delivery plus limited distribution of cans/bottles to various specialty beer shops in my neighborhood.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:29 (three days ago) link

Yeah, local craft delivery has been amazing. I always went at off hours and didn't sweat not getting every new hyped release, but not having to drive into NYC has been sweet.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:35 (three days ago) link

Hill Farmstead (probably the best brewery in the USA), has expanded their delivery area to Vermont, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:40 (three days ago) link


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