Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

I also suspect a lot of so-called "I used YouTube on a fresh account and you won't believe how fast it threw this stuff at me!" stuff isn't as tabula-rasa as it thinks it is -- if you use Google Chrome you're already potentially connected to your data profile, even in incognito mode. which I know sounds like nitpicking, and I'm definitely not saying there's any kind of profile that it's OK to thrust this shit at, but "YouTube over-weights alt-right stuff disproportionately for everybody" and "YouTube funnels alt-right stuff to men and boys" are two different kinds of shitty phenomenon

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-incognito-mode-privacy-tracking-chrome-a8504306.html

there should be a shared cultural space that is just neutral
― Trϵϵship, Friday, March 15, 2019 12:23 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"If you seek a pleasant peninsula, look about you"

^as they say in Michigan

there should be a shared cultural space that is just neutral

― Trϵϵship, Friday, March 15, 2019 9:23 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nothing is "neutral"

Yeah they’re called national parks and we need more of then

ideology is everywhere and in everything

I get recommended a crapload of Hasan Minhaj and a Mexican singer I have not heard of named Marco Antonio Solis. Maybe men just look at more trash online.

unfortunately there's no way to differentiate between watching and hate-watching

I was just watching a Tangerine Dream video & on the right bar there's a rec for a Joe Rogan video about David Lee Roth. I've never heard of Joe Rogan except on this thread, but I have watched Van Halen before.

btw fuck the murderers

'Up next' when I click on 'Christchurch shootings: Suspect published a manifesto before the attack - BBC News' is 'Explosives Expert Rates Unrealistic Movie Explosions'. Fuck you, YT.

No Joe Rogan in sight.

This is so sad.

The Maori statement above is heartbreaking.

nothing is "neutral"

― moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, March 15, 2019 12:34 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fine but you shouldn’t be fed one specific type of content by an algorithm based on your ascriptive identity

Beyond certain people becoming radicalized you have a basic dilemma of people from different groups living in different mental realities. And it’s not even a process users are conscious of.

Rebecca Solnit resurrected an article she wrote about isolation and individualism and how many men idealize the lone cowboy, the self made man, self responsibility and independence that they fail to see the interconnectiveness of anything. They try to create barriers to enforce this isolation and independence not knowing that they are forcing so much solitude and man-made facts they can't even recognize things like climate change or the humanity of others.

I should not say many men, but right wing, conservative which skews that way.

I agree. And I think individually tailored content is just going to fuel the solipsism too.

online bullshit just feeds into that of course, and everything online is black-and-white, with no room for the fact that the world is just one big gray area for the most part. Twitter doesn't leave room for anything but the most blunt stark statements, any attempt at nuance will wind up in an interminable (thread).

Rebecca Solnit is the best.

She's one of the few people I follow on fb.

If you need further evidence that this is stoked by mainstream politicians and media and amplified by global tech, one ammunition clip had "for Rotherham" written on it. I'm going to hazard a guess that the gunman had never met anyone from Rotherham, been there or even heard of it before the grooming gang story hit the news.

I didn't realise that one guy from the mosque jumped on the gunman and disarmed him. Fucking hero.

if he is still senator this time tomorrow then there's no hope really, is there

How do you expect the constitution of a country to be fundamentally rewritten and enacted in less than one working day?

He may have meant the other way to make someone not a senator.

Not sure that calling for the murder of a bigot in his own home is a practical response to this situation.

(Either the situation in Chch or the situation of Anning’s appointment.)

I meant firing the bastard but maybe there's no way to do that

It took you guys 800 years to figure out a way to fire members of your upper house, and they’re not even elected

One of my lib friends just tweeted Paul Joseph Watson in agreement.

What alternate reality is this

the one where you give your friend a good talking to

Ohh did i

Basically today is a bad day to internet

it really is

I just looked up Paul Joseph Watson and now wish I hadn't.

why would your lib friend do that? or did PJW say something not offensive?

It was a post where he was replying to someone who tweeted that all 4chan users should be on a watch list by saying this was another example of the left's hypocrisy and that it's no better than banning Muslims.

Except he was obv saying it to once again frame liberals badly and get heat off of people like himself

Really wish both Watson and Matt Walsh would get Locked-In syndrome

on platforming leading to this: I've been saying for 23 years now that if it hadn't been a slow news day on September 11th, her nonsense would have been yesterday's chip wrapping if it was covered at all, and she would have wafted out of parliament without a trace two years later. she'd already been disendorsed before the election, ffs.

but instead, covering her like a clown show enabled her literally incoherent message to spread*, for Our Bannon and Our Manafort, the Davids, to see some comfortable coattails to ride and to bring half a notion of marketing to. within a year, what had gotten her kicked out of the White People Please party, though not off the ballot, had become public discourse. could Howard have gotten away with Children Overboard, and a subsequent 18 years of torturing and starving brown people for marketing purposes, without that shift? fuck no, imo. She even blamed her 2001 senate bid failing on Howard stealing her policies!

then after fifteen years failing to get back in, she figures out that nobody's frightened of Vietnamese invading / indigenous people getting reparations anymore, switches to claiming that eating kebab & chip takeaways is a plot to convert schoolkids to terrorism, gets into the Senate with a pack of nutbags so racist that even she cuts ties with them, while wearing a burqa into parliament to prove that all Muslims are terrorists.

Decades in the public eye without being able to construct a sentence, or to evince any policy other than "I don't like it," but she gets to keep getting TV and paper coverage because she's ostensibly entertaining in her stupidity.

And now Anning, with his 19 votes, gets to sit for five years on $200,000 pa doing literally nothing except issuing statements like this every couple of months.

* jfc what a warning

Sadiq Khan OTM on Tory cunts, from 2:08 onwards.

https://www.channel4.com/news/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-i-wont-be-cowed-by-terrorists

what a crazy idea

NZ PM just now: "Our gun laws will change."

— David Mack (@davidmackau) March 15, 2019

For about 2 years I've been hailing NZ gun laws as an approachable first step towards gun law reform in the US. As I understood it, prospective gun purchasers must apply for a firearms licence, renewable at 10 year intervals. To be approved, there's a background check, as well as an interview and visit by a govt rep to confirm there's a gun safe on premises. Thereafter, those with licences would not ordinarily need add'l background checks before purchasing firearms.

And the historical record was enviable. Until last night.

doing literally nothing except

well, and billing taxpayers $3k for him to fly business class to white supremacist rallies 2,000 km away from his constituents

oh look he flew 2000k to another state again

At Anning's rally today in Melbourne a supporter of his noted the Christchurch shooter was a 28-year-old and one of the "younger generation taking up the fight". Anning responded by saying the shooter was "a little on the crazy side, but yeah."

if it had been, say, a hand grenade rather than an egg, we'd have all gotten our wishes

will take the egg tho

Multiple xps Sadiq otm. No doubt he’s tough as nails but he’s such a lightning rod for the fash that I honestly fear for his safety when you see some of the shit out there about him.

vid merits preservation here or in alt right thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTtOuP1-rJQ

This kid is a hero. I love how after he's smacked in the head he keeps the camera up with one hand and jabs with the other.

my ode to egg boy 🙏🙏🙏 pic.twitter.com/bpkIMrpAf9

— blerp (@proudlittlegoat) March 16, 2019

If you see the whole thing it's a truly brilliant bit of egging because he'd been standing behind him for some time, looking really blank and anonymous, like some random Joe who just happens to have been caught in camera - he didn't just barrel up, all eggs blazing. He bides his time, gets his phone prepared, and then very coolly eggs this hateful ugly moron. I'm lost in admiration for this young man.

Also, I know this guy isn't exactly in the market for popularity contests, but a burly middle-aged man slapping and kicking a scrawny schoolboy is nagl.

Now that is a very good white boy.

So good, in fact, that he invites comparison with a dog.