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They do, but undoubtedly some ancestries are prized above others.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:10 (three years ago) link

Yes, it is generally more a) spurious and b) profoundly-felt re Irishness.

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:15 (three years ago) link

In later life my dad went full shamrockbegorrahjaysus although his ancestors were CoI/Methodist on his dad’s side and fully Huguenot on his mum’s.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:29 (three years ago) link

huguenot very slept on in these discussions

mark s, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:12 (three years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Huguenots

mark s, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link

I always thought Brando was a huge knot

calzino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link

Annoyed that my ancestor who was in charge of British prisoners during the Revolutionary War and my other more direct ancestor who was with Washington at Trenton (and devised burning the landed British barges) aren’t on that list, pffft.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link

none of my ancestors are apparently from anywhere more exotic than County Cork, however there is this guy who seems pretty interesting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancelot_Errington

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link

the view in the US seems to be that the irish gene is dominant

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

A little unsure where the break would be presumed to be between irish diaspora of catholic origins and those of the other sects tbh

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

yes i concur.

although it is funny to think about the scots-irish peple whose ancestors were peep o day boys turning over in their graves when they donated to NORAID

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

Ive eaten at the restaurant beside the huguenot graveyard here in town and tbh i dont see what the fuss is about the soup

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

My Irishes emigrated to Ontario before every single male child of theirs went to America armed with a medical degree, to serve in various backwaters with hospitals.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

A little unsure where the break would be presumed to be between irish diaspora of catholic origins and those of the other sects tbh

tbf a lot of them were rebels who hated the English, so not all bad

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

Im actually lost bit lookit

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

Funny how they're far less likely "Hey, I'm German!" even though there's more with German ancestry than Irish.

― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 2:49 AM (eight hours ago)

gabbneb???

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link

Remember when Patrick Maguire used to write for the bad NS? Awful awful content

The just slightly too enthusiastic Biden joy amongst the blue ticks is the dawning realisation that they have collectively fucked it into the heart of the sun, IMO pic.twitter.com/a03sNQDUxG

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) January 21, 2021

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link

TERFs are confused

I am SO happy that Biden won and Trump lost. But this is terrible https://t.co/meJ2OskCtv

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 21, 2021

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:31 (three years ago) link

Thoroughly normal people.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

O THANK YOU, Uncle Joe, for taking away women's sex-based rights, which those before us fought so hard to win! Would you like to wipe your bum on we giggling gals of your fan-club next? It's OUR PLEASURE!

— Julie Burchill (@BoozeAndFagz) January 21, 2021

wtf I’m a Biden fan now

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:46 (three years ago) link

Julie Burchill fought for women's sex-based rights? When?

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:51 (three years ago) link

fishhook theory confirmed again

calzino, Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link

No, no, it was those before her! Are you accusing her of egotism?

up-the-arts corner (Matt #2), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link

Poor Julie, between this and Joe being a proud Fenian, it must have been such a hard day for her

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:58 (three years ago) link

Those before her did the fighting - Charles Shaar Murray, Nick Kent.

mahb, Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:01 (three years ago) link

Getting sonned by a bookshop, you love too etc

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:07 (three years ago) link

Hi yes, we are an American bookshop in London. Owned by an American. She is the sole-proprietor. Pays taxes in America and Britain. Thank you. https://t.co/NmUzZkpwSR

— The Second Shelf in Second Lockdown or Third or? (@secondshelfbks) January 21, 2021

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:07 (three years ago) link

I do have to wonder how someone so thick with no discernable writing talent has managed to have such a successful career in journalism

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:32 (three years ago) link

It's almost as if it's who you know not whether you're any good or not

Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:37 (three years ago) link

"all the worst parts of the Equality Act"

nashwan, Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:40 (three years ago) link

Jobs for life.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:44 (three years ago) link

inherited wealth

plax (ico), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

second shelf is an excellent little bookshop, well worth a visit if you’re in soho, fantastic range of women’s and gender diverse writing.

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link

yes i saw that. hadley freeman also covering herself in glory lashing out at the excellent women’s and gender diverse bookshop the second shelf is good timing as well. not sure how much of a choice you get but ew, do not want to read anything by hadley freeman even if it’s about My Favoruite LRB HERO Patricia Lockwood She Can Do No Wrong. (i haven’t read priest daddy and have no particular urge to - should i?)

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link

RONG thread

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link

no it’s not

Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 13:15 (three years ago) link

A happy(?) accident.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 January 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link

patricia lockwood's books/poetry are not as good as you might hope. i think there's something ultimately ephemeral about her writing that doesn't work in those forms. i have one of her collections of poetry and i enjoyed it at first but its much more conservative in outlook than i would have hoped and i felt very underwhelmed by it.

plax (ico), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

there was a poem that was very 'honoring our troops' that made me do a face

plax (ico), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

plax you're not the first person to have said that, and despite my general enjoyment of Lockwood in the LRB as a good counterweight, i'm not feeling a huge urge to go into the wider works.

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

oh that's interesting, i hadn't actually encountered that said about her. disappointingly nobody i've seen writing about her has really done her the courtesy of engaging with her writing beyond 'poet laureate of twitter' laziness. i do enjoy her as a 'breath of fresh air' lol

plax (ico), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

just in case of any doubt that wasn't a 'plax why are you repeating that old saw about her being not as good as you might hope,' just that i've heard from other people something similar, and my response was 'ah right, yes, another person i trust basically saying this' (I haven't seen it much out in the wild as an opinion tbh).

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

pouring one out for Darren "Grimesy" Grimes who is leaving London to go back to his mum's house, RIP big man

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Friday, 19 February 2021 10:55 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

On 13 December 2020 I made defamatory statements about @AyoCaesar, which I sincerely regret and retract and have undertaken not to repeat. I have agreed to pay substantial damages to Ash Sarkar and her legal costs. Here is my full and wholehearted apology. Please retweet pic.twitter.com/tc2aUKbCOK

— Julie Burchill (@BoozeAndFagz) March 16, 2021

u loves to see it

calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:14 (three years ago) link

Lol was just coming here for this

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:19 (three years ago) link

will this affect her glittering Fleet Street career? The signs are... it won't.

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:23 (three years ago) link

would be funny if she could be made to retract all the other terrible things she's written in the same style, I do note that her anti-woke book is due to be published again though.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:32 (three years ago) link

the most normal paper on normal island

At the time, when Julie Burchill was sending me abusive and defamatory tweets, I tried to contact her editor Allister Heath at the Sunday Telegraph both on Twitter and via email.

He never replied.

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) March 16, 2021

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:53 (three years ago) link

God, Allister Heath, that guy is a horror.

Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:56 (three years ago) link

weird how these things just keep happening to Julie through no fault of her own

Amazing 48hrs for Julie Burchill. pic.twitter.com/i26rHCiEmy

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) March 17, 2021

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link


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