excuse me WHAT?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
what to whom
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
?
whatwhamwhom
― nanoflymo (ledge), Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
firing a gun made me feel pretty lame, actually -- i'm not a great shot
― mookieproof, Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.myparentsopencarry.com/
My Parents Open Carry was written in the hope of providing a basic overview of the right to keep and bear arms as well as the growing practice of the open carry of a handgun. We fear our children are being raised with a biased view of our constitution and especially in regards to the 2nd Amendment. Before writing this, we looked for pro-gun children's books and couldn't find any. Our goal was to provide a wholesome family book that reflects the views of the majority of the American people, i.e., that self-defense is a basic natural right and that firearms provide the most efficient means for that defense. We truly hope you will enjoy this book and read and discuss it with your children over and over again.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
milo z basically echoing my thoughts on this, for the most part.
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
omg this pic
http://www.myparentsopencarry.com/images/cover.jpg
― iatee, Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
omg that kids' book. They still accept cheques which says it all imo.
I only did target practice with a pistol but I was awesome. Wouldn't trust myself with a pistol long-term as I kept waving it at people's legs by accident.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
they use the same cover for "my parents open marriage"
― bnw, Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey maybe I should write a kids' book called My Parents Open Strap-on, to bring dildos out of the closet and into the mainstream.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, 9 January 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
the last gun i fired was a (us) civil war-era pistol (i have an acquaintance who is a gun collector/dealer). big cloud of smoke, no idea where the shot went
― mookieproof, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Adam OTM about even knives now being controlled here, and the police are allowed to spot-check for them and search/detain/arrest. So someone in the other thread said this was too police state? Hasn't bothered me none.
It does bug my bff who is involved in historical swordplay, because he has to take careful steps to carry his gear - licenced, special containers, cant take on planes at all, etc. But you respect these things.
― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
In fact the other day I think I read they're now making stores ask for ID for anyone buying PLASTIC KNIVES?
But I am not sure if that one was so.
― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, 10 January 2011 11:06 (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
'er indoors used to carry sw0rds to d4nce gigs and had to stop when that law came in. A friend of hers still does it but I don't know whether she's licensed or just breaking laws.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
If I suddenly decided I needed to carry a gun for self-protection, or have one in my house, I think I'd be completely crippled by the responsibility of being in a position to shoot: either that I should have intervened and shot someone when I didn't, or that I'd have to - in an instant- apprise an entire situation, be judge, jury and executioner and risk killing an innocent person. It's this aspect that intrigues me and, I would imagine, can't really be trained for.
― Not the real Village People, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I couldn't live with that possibility either. Self defence or no, I cannot fathom the idea of KILLING someone.
― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
my dad had/has a loaded .44 in his sock drawer. pretty sure i wasn't supposed to know that as a kid but i totally did!
― mookieproof, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Village People otm. Also, I don't think most people consider the process of loading the gun etc., and kickback means you can't just point and fire Hollywood-style unless you're like elite military. Seems a bit like carrying a flat-pack Ikea chair everywhere in case you need to sit down.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i imagine reality is a bit more sedate than that - just training a gun on someone is probably enough to defuse a lot of situations, it doesn't automatically turn you into dirty harry
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, January 9, 2011 7:19 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark
lol what
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
dude if yr ccw why would yr gun be unloaded??
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
also btw you can just point and fire hollywood style with a modicum of practice.
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 11:21 (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Good point, but then obv you're increasing the risk of it going off accidentally (yes I know about safety catches etc). All right maybe I just don't like guns.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
just training a gun on someone is probably enough to defuse a lot of situations
oh sure, if there's one thing that cools a situation down it's a drawn weapon
― moholy-nagl (history mayne), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
back the fuck up bitch
― deejeuner sur l'herb (nakhchivan), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Someone mentioned keeping one in their truck (upthread? the other thread? its all moviung too fast). All I could think was "oh so someone can break into yr car, take said gun, then bust into yr house and rob you?"
Having a gun anywhere near me would just lead me to worry someone ELSE could get a hold of it.
But, we simply dont have that culture here. Not in the cities anyway - rifles and whatnot on farms for animals is p common (and loudly defended)
― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i've fired a machine gun and it was p tite, no lie
are there any stats to back up 'self-defence' theory? or to damage it, i.e. instances of people carrying a gun in 'self-defence' who end up using it, um, inappropriately
― moholy-nagl (history mayne), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not sure what point this might illustrate, but i dunno maybe it ~captures~ the way some americans feel about handguns and their place in american society:
i know three ppl with ccw permits (hi dad!), and two of them don't even own guns, or plan to.
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
HM, i know studies have been done that support both sides, but my gut feeling is that many sober gun "advocates" would quietly agree that, no, carrying a gun is not likely to effect the outcome of a statistically improbable self-defense situation. i personally feel that it's impossible to stereotype guns-as-self-defense situations in a way that could generate meaningful data. seems just as likely that a person could ace a stickup man as it is that they'd shoot themselves or a bystander or escalate the situation, or wherever.
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
rifles and whatnot on farms for animals is p common (and loudly defended)
I get that, I mean if you've got sheep and a fox keeps eating them you want to act on the fox. Also p hard to conceal a rifle about one's person in bourke st.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Didn't stop that Hoddle st dude eh?
― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc people who own guns are a lot more likely to shoot family members than bad guys
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, 10 January 2011 11:42 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah but people like that will get hold of a firearm one way or another, same with Martin Bryant.
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i shot my cousin and his wifexpost
― fat sheets of rage (buzza), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
porn shoot or
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link
popel shot
― fat sheets of rage (buzza), Monday, 10 January 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Mass shootings do not "happen all the time."
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, January 10, 2011 4:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
rolling disgruntled shootings thread 2010
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
And it's also statistically accurate that i am more likely to get hit by a car. My point is that the chances of a non gun owner being shot by a stray bullet are extremely remote.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, January 10, 2011 4:46 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
spoken like a true midwesterner. just because it's statistically insignificant doesn't mean it's not a total fucking tragedy when it does happen.
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow really thanks for opening my eyes
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 January 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
fwiw i think we should outlaw cars too
― max, Monday, 10 January 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i think iatee agrees with me there
loooooooool xp
haha
cars are just really big guns that can take you places
― iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
cars own, america owns
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 10 January 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry. I dunno about where you've lived before jjjusten but I grew up in inner city philly - stories about innocents getting caught in cross-fire were pretty much a standard thing. so it really rubs me wrong when ppl dismiss that fact of life as 'statistically insignificant - uh, sure, if you live in places that are not big cities.
― dayo, Monday, 10 January 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I come from a quaint tiny burg called Minneapolis you've probably never heard of
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 10 January 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link
er indoors used to carry sw0rds to d4nce gigs
Scottish or bellydance??
― Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Monday, 10 January 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
latter
― goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 January 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link