Best Stanley Kubrick movie

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Stanley K, everyone loves him (don't they?), but which is the pick of the bunch? Which one does ILX love longtime?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
2001: A Space Odyssey 22
A Clockwork Orange 15
Dr Strangelove, or [etc] 14
The Shining 11
Barry Lyndon 9
Full Metal Jacket 6
Paths of Glory 5
Lolita 3
Eyes Wide Shut 3
Spartacus 2
The Killing 2
Killer's Kiss 0
Fear and Desire0


That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 07:38 (thirteen years ago) link

He's a regular sadist, you know?

Tuomas, Thursday, 5 April 2007 07:41 (thirteen years ago) link

1) Dr. Strangelove
2) Lolita
3) The Shining
4) Clockwork Orange
5) Full Metal Jacket
6) Spartacus
7) 2001
8) Eyes Wide Shut
9) The Killing
10) Paths of Glory
11) Barry Lyndon
12) Killer's Kiss
13) Fear & Desire

darin, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:01 (thirteen years ago) link

1) The Shining
2) Strangelove
3) 2001
4) Full Metal Jacket
5) everything else (yes i've seen a good chunk of it)

considering we're surrounded with ppl who routinely rank Kid A over OK Computer, I'm betting Barry Lyndon will win this poll.

Stevie D, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Stanley Kubrick, Classic or Dud

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Barry Lyndon is not Kubrick's Kid A though. 2001 may be his OK Computer however.

DavidM, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link

stevie d you're actually surrounded by people who have never heard kid a, or ok computer

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link

1) Dr. Strangelove
2) Eyes Wide Shut
3) A Clockwork Orange
4) Barry Lyndon
5) Paths of Glory
6) Lolita
7) Full Metal Jacket
8) The Shining
9) 2001

I voted for EWS though, just to be a contrarian.

Tuomas, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm sure we've had a coen bros c/d too tracer!

but this is pollier.

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:18 (thirteen years ago) link

pollier - heheh

Fear and Desire! Has anyone actually seen this in the last decade? Ever?

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 5 April 2007 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link

really shouldn't set these polls to run for so long, i'm going to forget all about this by the end of the month

Ste, Thursday, 5 April 2007 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link

oh it'll be easy, you just go to the 'recently updated threads page'.

lol

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 10:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i like stanley kubrick

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i should've voted for something contrarian and argued about it but strangelove is too perfect

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

The bit in 2001 when Bowman's in the weird space hotel at the end, and he sees the old man - the camera is in first person, looking through Bowman's eyes, so we see what he sees and we identify with him. Then the old man hears a noise, and gets up, and comes towards us - we assume. But suddenly we realise that the old man is Bowman, and that the Bowman whose eyes we were looking through has gone... the shift in perspective from young Bowman/first person to old Bowman/third person is literally BREATHTAKING, and achieved without any edits or camera movement of any kind.

So, just for that, 2001.

ledge, Thursday, 5 April 2007 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

keir dullea is so one-note though :/

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

2001 for what ledge said and also every other scene in that movie.

Ste, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

keir dullea is so one-note though :/


Would you want it any other way though? Would you want Dullea mugging for the camera wildly emoting? It's a Kubrick movie!

underpants of the gods, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Stanley K, everyone loves him (don't they?

Nope, sorry.

However, I saw Barry Lyndon last fall and, whaddya know, it was pretty funny. A Clockwork Orange is misbegotten, The Shining meh, and 2001 a snooze.

My favorite's probably [Paths of Glory, which is cold as ice despite Kirk Douglas' sanctimonious shouting. Any scene in Spartacus with Charles Laughton, Peter Ustinov, and proto-Palpatine Laurence Olivier is terrific.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Also: he probably would have gotten good work from your boy John Turturro.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.chess-theory.com/image4/the_luzhin_defence.jpg
CHA BOY

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

http://viatraveldesign.com/journal/archives/jturturro.jpg
YR CRAZY FOR THIS ONE STAN

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

hey paths of glory and the killing both make fantastic use of tim carey, who was totally a proto-turturro!

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"Would you want it any other way though? Would you want Dullea mugging for the camera wildly emoting? It's a Kubrick movie!

-- underpants of the gods, Thursday, April 5, 2007 4:03 PM (20 minutes ago)"

it was einer joek

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh.

underpants of the gods, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure everybody's seen this, but it's so good: [link=[Removed Illegal Link]

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z11B9L2awVA

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

that shining trailer is lolz

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Having to choose among Barry Lyndon, 2001: A Space Odyssey
Dr Strangelove, and Paths of Glory is fairly arbitrary for me.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted for paths of glory before i saw alfred repping for it and now i want to take it back u_u

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

considering we're surrounded with ppl who routinely rank Kid A over OK Computer, I'm betting Barry Lyndon will win this poll.

-- Stevie D, Thursday, April 5, 2007 3:06 AM (5 hours ago)


???

sleep, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Barry Lyndon, Eyes Wide Shut and Full Metal Jacket look way better today than Clockwork.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted for paths of glory before i saw alfred repping for it and now i want to take it back u_u

BE A REBEL

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

http://blogs.indiewire.com/reverseshot/archives/PathsFerrol.jpeg

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

What I meant was, it's always seemed to me that OK Computer was Radiohead's clear winner (like, their undisputed magnum opus), and then here on ILX everyone seems to like Kid A better, which surprised me.

Similarly, while the usual pick for Best Kubrick seems to routinely be either 2001, Clockwork, or Strangelove; however, in recent years, Barry Lyndon (which was shunned for years) has been coming out from under the radar as the "critics' pick".

I don't know. It makes more sense to me in my head.

Stevie D, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Full Metal Jacket
Eyes Wide Shut
The Killing
Paths of Glory
The Shining
Dr Strangelove, or [etc]
Lolita
2001: A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orange
Spartacus

have not seen:
Barry Lyndon
Killer's Kiss (
Fear and Desire

milo z, Thursday, 5 April 2007 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

WHERE IS A.I????

Abbott, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

ones I like, in order:
2001: A Space Odyssey
Full Metal Jacket
Dr Strangelove, or [etc]
The Killing
Lolita
Eyes Wide Shut
Barry Lyndon
Spartacus
Paths of Glory

then ones I don't like:
A Clockwork Orange -- borderline. i like parts of it but i disagree with its politics soooo much
The Shining -- not scary :(
Killer's Kiss

abanana, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm surprised Spartacus ranks so low. Skip the Kirk Douglas-Jean Simmons scenes filmed on Astroturf. Rejoice in the crisp enunciations of potbellied English queens.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I might vote for Paths of Glory. Plucky underdog!

chap, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

The Killing!

Reservoir Dogs but good.

DavidM, Thursday, 5 April 2007 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

of the ones i've seen, here's my list (best first)

Barry Lyndon
Paths of Glory
The Killing
2001: A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Dr Strangelove
The Shining
Eyes Wide Shut

gershy, Thursday, 5 April 2007 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Barry Lyndon
2001
The Shining

i really like those ones in that order. i do not like Dr Strangelove. i like OK computer more than Kid A. i do not like Amnesia.

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Amnesiac

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

:)

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link

faves:
2001
Barry Lyndon
Clockwork
Paths

but I love SK. Interesting the BL is being recognized as "critic's fave"; I wonder if it's been underrated for the reason that the people who saw it when it came out were bored by the pace compared to Clockwork, or the setting compared to 2001

Dominique, Friday, 6 April 2007 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think it was underrated, was it? it's highly rated by critics. i just guess punters who haven't seen it think they might not like it (...costume drama BORING) so it's kind of ignored.

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it was underrated at the time. I remember reading a Spielberg quote that was something like "yeah, I liked BL, but it was a bit like taking a walk through the Prado wasn't it?"

Dominique, Friday, 6 April 2007 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, but Spielberg's a bit of a 'tard.

milo z, Friday, 6 April 2007 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, but in '76....? Anyway, BL is awesome, maybe the SK movie I've seen the most times.

Dominique, Friday, 6 April 2007 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Xp: why would the revive be about Paths of Glory?

how's life, Monday, 10 November 2014 11:24 (five years ago) link

Over here it was remembrance Sunday and there has been lots of WW1 related stuff on TV recently I thought maybe it was broadcast, saying that it is probably on a BBC blacklist for portraying futility.

xelab, Monday, 10 November 2014 18:06 (five years ago) link

I have the most trouble with the middle of that list - BL and PoG (among others?) could easily be reversed.

benbbag, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 04:08 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

A brief list.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 September 2017 05:46 (two years ago) link

Interesting to neglect the major players, but absolutely love Lolita/Barry Lyndon. Good list

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 23 September 2017 07:50 (two years ago) link

George Macready in Paths Of Glory + Patrick Magee in BL, are such powerhouse performances. And Sterling Hayden's straight-faced "precious bodily fluids" spiel is still piss funny, even though I wore out a VHS recording of Strangelove in the 80's.

calzino, Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:04 (two years ago) link

Kubrick admitted Lolita needed to be more explicit.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:18 (two years ago) link

lolita the book is not really all that explicit, tbh

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:54 (two years ago) link

1/ Full Metal Jacket
2/ Dr Strangelove
3/ 2001: A Space Odyssey
4/ Barry Lyndon
5/ Eyes Wide Shut

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 23 September 2017 11:52 (two years ago) link

it's clear, JD

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 September 2017 14:08 (two years ago) link

Lyne's was just as ambiguous on that point

rip van wanko, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:04 (two years ago) link

Love Alfred's challopsy lists. I never agree with them but they make for great reading and dissecting

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:47 (two years ago) link

Largely agree with this one and the point about concision. Bar 2001 I think it hits the essential work.

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:38 (two years ago) link

as it happens, a student told me this morning that his Euro history professor showed POG last week and the class was devastasted when it ended.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:42 (two years ago) link

i'm pretty sure i've said this before here but kirk douglas' slow burn in paths of glory is my platonic model of how these things can be done. i would love to know the conversations he had with kubrick about it, how much they collaborated on the emotional structure of his part (if at all), and how tricky it must have been to correctly modulate given that they were probably shooting a lot of stuff out of sequence

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:49 (two years ago) link

I don't know if Douglas' autobio has much on the playing of Dax, but it has Kirk's infamous anger w/ SK

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=8851.0;wap2

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:56 (two years ago) link

the way Kubrick keeps the audience's righteous anger at a rising boil is pretty masterful.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:58 (two years ago) link

Stanley Kubrick and his partner, James Harris, the man who put up money to develop the script, went ahead to Germany to prepare PATHS OF GLORY. When I arrived at the Hotel Vierjahrzeiten in Munich, I was greeted by Stanley and a completely rewritten script. He had revised it on his own, with Jim Thompson. It was a catastrophe, a cheapened version of what I thought had been a beautiful script. The dialogue was atrocious. My character said things like: "You've got a big head. You're so sure the sun rises and sets up there in your noggin you don't even bother to carry matches,"And "And you've got the only brain in the world. They made yours and threw the pattern away? The rest of us have a skullful of Cornflakes." Speeches like this went on for pages, right up to the happy ending, when the general's car arrives screeching to halt the firing squad and he changes the men's death sentence to thirty days in the guardhouse. Then my character, Colonel Dax, goes off with the bad guy he has been fighting all through the movie, General Rousseau, to have a drink, as the general puts his arm around my shoulder.

I callled Kubrick and Harris to my room. "Stanley, did you write this?"

"Yes." Kubrick always had a calm way about him. I never heard him raise his voice, never saw him get excited or reveal anything. He just looked at you though those big, wide eyes.

I said, "Stanley, why would you do that?"
He very calmly said, "To make it commercial. I want to make money."

I hit the ceiling. I called him every four-letter word I could think of. "You come to me with a script written by other people. It was based on a book. I love THAT script. I told you I didn't think this would be commercial, but I want to make it. You left it in my hands to put the picture together. I got the money, based on THAT script. Not this shit!" I threw the script across the room. "We're going back to the original script, or we're not making the picture."

Stanley never blinked an eye. We shot the original script. I think the movie is a classic, one of the most important pictures--possibly the MOST important picture--Stanley Kubrick has ever made.

from Morbs' link

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:00 (two years ago) link

Interesting tidbit about a director who has written or co-written, with an exception, every film he's made:

Stanley is not a writer. He has always functioned better if he got a good writer and worked with him on a concept.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:02 (two years ago) link

makes sense if you think of Jim Thompson, Terry Southern, Arthur Clarke, Frederic Raphael, but afaik SK did the adap of Lyndon himself.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:04 (two years ago) link

apparently he also tossed the Nabokov script in the ashcan; it was very long and unfilmable.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:05 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I knew that. For BL and ACO (also a solo credit) I think I read that he followed the Huston method for The Maltese Falcon: ask a secretary to re-type the novel in script format, then he'd edit it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:07 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

we should do this again. i imagine Barry Lyndon and Eyes Wide Shut would place much higher now

flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 07:34 (two years ago) link

Yeah i was surprised how low EWS (my number 1) was. Looking forward to watching it again over the season; soooo Christmass-y.

piscesx, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:26 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Barry Lyndon on TV klaxon (BBC4, Sunday at 9pm)

— Hardcore for Nerds (@HC4N) April 27, 2019

j., Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:17 (one year ago) link

Can't believe I am finally going to watch this, unless the snooker is amazing

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:10 (one year ago) link

On a schoolnight?

milkshake chuk (wins), Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:11 (one year ago) link

knock that fucking billiards on't head - it's an alltime great movie!

calzino, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:15 (one year ago) link

It's how I roll.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:16 (one year ago) link

Xp

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:16 (one year ago) link

Yeah I know...I've missed screening after screening of this. But ya know Trump and Ding could be serving up a classic tonight.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20 (one year ago) link

Filmworker is on Film4 at 00:30 tonight. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6851066/

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:37 (one year ago) link

https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03174/barryl_3174963c.jpg
so many good performances in BL but Patrick Magee's turn as The Chevalier is exceptional.

calzino, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:44 (one year ago) link

Probably one of the most well-designed and photographed of films. The one-track coldness that Kubrick deals in really works to temper down the iffy (twee) source material.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:09 (one year ago) link

it is fucking gorgeous.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:29 (one year ago) link

Patrick Magee's turn as The Chevalier is exceptional.

I don't think I've ever seen Patrick Magee be anything less than exceptional in anything.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:32 (one year ago) link

have to see Barry Lyndon again, I think I will really appreciate it, but also don't think it will replace 2001 as my personal favorite film of all time

Dan S, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:36 (one year ago) link

Gotta say it's the first one of his I've seen where I get what ppl are on about wrt Kubrick.

I don't think I've ever seen Patrick Magee be anything less than exceptional in anything.

*Looks at wiki* How much Hammer horror have you seen?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 08:58 (one year ago) link

Magee only appeared in one Hammer film, the fairly obscure Demons of the Mind. He's in a fair few horror movies from Hammer's UK rival Amicus, tho.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 April 2019 09:02 (one year ago) link

Yes, he did a lot of crap but he's a magnetic presence. Not exactly what you'd call a naturalistic actor, lol.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 09:23 (one year ago) link

Cool it was striking to see someone in a few amazing films and then contrast with horror (I called it hammer only bcz of seeing discussion of their output on here is the extent of my knowledge) which I assume won't have as many demands placed on your actorly skill set (again another assumption)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 10:28 (one year ago) link

Don't get me wrong, I love Hammer, Amicus, Tigon and all that guff.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 10:30 (one year ago) link

Clockwork Orange was showing at my local cinema and I missed out on seeing it. Been very long since I originally saw it, and I've never seen it at the cinema.

I love Barry Lyndon.

frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 29 April 2019 10:46 (one year ago) link

I had Patrick Magee and Henry McGee confused in my mind for a minute there. Now that was a wild ride.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 29 April 2019 11:47 (one year ago) link

Benny Hill or Sam Beckett, both bring the LOLs, for sure.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 11:49 (one year ago) link

up on iplayer (along with paths of glory and 2001)

devvvine, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:50 (one year ago) link

Cool it was striking to see someone in a few amazing films and then contrast with horror (I called it hammer only bcz of seeing discussion of their output on here is the extent of my knowledge) which I assume won't have as many demands placed on your actorly skill set (again another assumption)

One of the things I like about Magee is that he is giving exactly the same kind of performance in a Kubrick film as he is in a Freddie Francis film or vice/versa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OarsvZbhds&list=PL2AA217275C6F6CF0&index=7

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 April 2019 18:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah thanks that was good.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:29 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

This, from an interview with Vitali about Kubrick's soundtracks. His films through the 70s were mixed for the narrow frequency range of Academy Mono. There was an art to it. Optimizing them for digital adds lows and highs that were never in the original. It's akin to colorizing. pic.twitter.com/aemS2JmyXF

— Eric Dienstfrey (@SignalsToNoises) June 8, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 02:52 (eleven months ago) link

eleven months pass...

Surprised Barry Lyndon doesn't have its own thread.

Mrs. America used some of BL's score tonight (prominently) during an awkward first meeting between Phyllis Schlafly and Jill Ruckelshaus (Republican, but very pro-ERA). Not sure what the meaning of that was (beyond the obvious, that it's 1976).

clemenza, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:33 (six days ago) link


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